Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
Exactly. Even websites like mine where I don't personally put cookies on users' machines may be caught, because of things like the Custom Google Search Engine, the SiteLevel search, and any other "third party" bits on the site. I wouuld also have to be mindful of what some of the programs on my site do with any data (I have never used many of them). Plus games like Squaddies are unsuitable for children because of the strong language. Let's just hope that these new regulations will give us ample time to adapt. Dilwyn On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, 13:39 Caroline Mathieson via Ql-Users, < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > Anonymous FTP doesn’t gather user information or store cookies etc so it > should be exempt. If it’s not then millions of domains in the uk are in > deep trouble. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:17, pjwitte via Ql-Users > wrote: > > > > On 21/06/2022 10:53, Caroline Mathieson via Ql-Users wrote: > >> Maybe time to bring back the good old BBS > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On 17 Jun 2022, at 18:27, desin via Ql-Users > wrote: > >>> > >>> https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ > > > > Dialup? Modems? Im not sure Im up for that. The alternative is to access > the BBS via Internet. But then, wouldnt the same laws apply? > > > > Per > > ___ > > QL-Users Mailing List > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
Anonymous FTP doesn’t gather user information or store cookies etc so it should be exempt. If it’s not then millions of domains in the uk are in deep trouble. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:17, pjwitte via Ql-Users > wrote: > > On 21/06/2022 10:53, Caroline Mathieson via Ql-Users wrote: >> Maybe time to bring back the good old BBS >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On 17 Jun 2022, at 18:27, desin via Ql-Users wrote: >>> >>> https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ > > Dialup? Modems? Im not sure Im up for that. The alternative is to access the > BBS via Internet. But then, wouldnt the same laws apply? > > Per > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
On 21/06/2022 10:53, Caroline Mathieson via Ql-Users wrote: Maybe time to bring back the good old BBS Sent from my iPhone On 17 Jun 2022, at 18:27, desin via Ql-Users wrote: https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ Dialup? Modems? Im not sure Im up for that. The alternative is to access the BBS via Internet. But then, wouldnt the same laws apply? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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Maybe time to bring back the good old BBS Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Jun 2022, at 18:27, desin via Ql-Users wrote: > > https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
!!? Shift who what ? Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail On 6/18/22, 11:35 AM, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote: Or, just shift the hosting and country of publication to an EU country or the US? Dave On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:32 AM Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > "Red tape" existed because companies and individuals couldn't be > trusted to be legal, decent and honest by themselves. Laws and > regulations were introduced for a reason. So when politicians use the > phrase "reduce red tape" or "free ourselves from the EU shackles", > expect an ulterior motive. Somebody with a connection to the > government will profit. Ordinary people will suffer. Just like we've > come to expect from the Johnson government. Sadly, we have such an > ineffective opposition in this country that they know they'll get away > with just about anything now. > > I've no wish to learn the necessary web programming skills and no wish > to invest in software to cope with this, so I'll just close my sites > down if it comes to that. > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 23:56, Richard Howe via Ql-Users > wrote: > > > It's one of those times when you genuinely wonder if they really are > stupid, > > or intelligently progressing a hidden agenda. > > > > Richard Howe > Precisely, Richard. > > Dilwyn > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
Or, just shift the hosting and country of publication to an EU country or the US? Dave On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:32 AM Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > "Red tape" existed because companies and individuals couldn't be > trusted to be legal, decent and honest by themselves. Laws and > regulations were introduced for a reason. So when politicians use the > phrase "reduce red tape" or "free ourselves from the EU shackles", > expect an ulterior motive. Somebody with a connection to the > government will profit. Ordinary people will suffer. Just like we've > come to expect from the Johnson government. Sadly, we have such an > ineffective opposition in this country that they know they'll get away > with just about anything now. > > I've no wish to learn the necessary web programming skills and no wish > to invest in software to cope with this, so I'll just close my sites > down if it comes to that. > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 23:56, Richard Howe via Ql-Users > wrote: > > > It's one of those times when you genuinely wonder if they really are > stupid, > > or intelligently progressing a hidden agenda. > > > > Richard Howe > Precisely, Richard. > > Dilwyn > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
"Red tape" existed because companies and individuals couldn't be trusted to be legal, decent and honest by themselves. Laws and regulations were introduced for a reason. So when politicians use the phrase "reduce red tape" or "free ourselves from the EU shackles", expect an ulterior motive. Somebody with a connection to the government will profit. Ordinary people will suffer. Just like we've come to expect from the Johnson government. Sadly, we have such an ineffective opposition in this country that they know they'll get away with just about anything now. I've no wish to learn the necessary web programming skills and no wish to invest in software to cope with this, so I'll just close my sites down if it comes to that. On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 at 23:56, Richard Howe via Ql-Users wrote: > It's one of those times when you genuinely wonder if they really are stupid, > or intelligently progressing a hidden agenda. > > Richard Howe Precisely, Richard. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
The website I am building uses the currently free IP2Location databases to identify the country relating to the IP address of any visitor. Using this and a category system I can block all or selected categories of information from reaching all or selected IP address ranges. In short I can block access to all the users in a hostile country except those using some form of proxy system. Freedom of information is important for a strong economy. Red tape and half-baked government legislation, reducing the privacy of millions by selling their ages, and increasing the costs of service providers will deprive the people of this country of facilities enjoyed by users in neighbouring countries. But some children may be marginally safer. It's one of those times when you genuinely wonder if they really are stupid, or intelligently progressing a hidden agenda. Richard Howe -Original Message- From: Ql-Users [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of desin via Ql-Users Sent: 17 June 2022 18:27 To: ql-users Cc: desin Subject: [Ql-Users] the british way https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, at 7:15 PM, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: > Horrible situation. Bye bye all QL websites. I've just put a rental house > for sale because of the ever increasing legislation and costs - as have > MANY small portfolio landlords - so well intentioned change in the UK will > lead to a housing rental shortage and increased rentals instead of making > things better for tenants. If this or similar legislation ends up applying > to us, I won't try to comply, I'll just shut down. End of. > Its almost like the web giants have lobbied to ban personal websites :-( Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] the british way
Horrible situation. Bye bye all QL websites. I've just put a rental house for sale because of the ever increasing legislation and costs - as have MANY small portfolio landlords - so well intentioned change in the UK will lead to a housing rental shortage and increased rentals instead of making things better for tenants. If this or similar legislation ends up applying to us, I won't try to comply, I'll just shut down. End of. Dilwyn On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, 18:27 desin via Ql-Users, wrote: > https://webdevlaw.uk/2022/06/17/data-reform-bill-cookie-popups/ > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > ___ QL-Users Mailing List
