[ql-users] Jungle Eddi

2004-12-02 Thread Rich Mellor
Hi,
We have successfully tried Jungle Eddi on both a QL and Q-Emulator and 
have decided that we would like to release it...

If only somone knew what the actual point of the game was - does anyone 
know if it was ever reviewed in QL Today or even mentioned in a Talent 
advert since we seem to be getting nowhere fast !!

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Re: [ql-users] Gwass

2004-12-02 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 02/12/04 02:40:41 GMT Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi George,
 
 am I mistaken, or was there an item on this list a few days ago that GWASS 
 now handles qmac macros?
 
 I think it got swamped by the Quanta/questionnaire and Proforma filter 
 messages.
 
 Wolfgang
 

Yes. GWASS does indeed accept Qmac style parameters to macros. I have used 
this to assemble the four versions of SMSQE v3.07 from the same source (apart 
from the macros themselves). I also used Qmac to do the same thing from the 
same 
source. This version of GWASS is now on the SQLUG site.

I am now going through the source to find out why the lengths of some of the 
linked sections differ from Qmac to GWASS. The reasons are:

a. That Qmac reduces such instructions as MOVE.L #0,D0 to MOVEQ #0,D0, 
whereas GWASS (as LAU would approve) assembles what is requested. This makes 
the 
Qmac version smaller.
b. When a branch does not have a length attached GWASS makes it as short as 
possible. Qmac does not. This makes the GWASS version smaller.

However, although both versions should have the same result, I really think 
that it is good practice to write MOVEQ #,D0 instead of MOVE.L #0,D0 so I can't 
resist making these alterations when I find them.

George
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Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter, monospace font

2004-12-02 Thread dilwyn.jones
  Is there an easy way of finding out what characters a font supports??
  
 You could try 'ProWesS Fonts Utilities'.
 
Or for those using only Proforma, not ProWesS, the older SHOWPFF or whatever 
the font viewing utility was called (supplied with pre-ProWesS Line Designs)

Dilwyn Jones 

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Re: [ql-users] Jungle Eddi

2004-12-02 Thread dilwyn.jones
 We have successfully tried Jungle Eddi on both a QL and Q-Emulator and 
 have decided that we would like to release it...
 
 If only somone knew what the actual point of the game was - does anyone 
 know if it was ever reviewed in QL Today or even mentioned in a Talent 
 advert since we seem to be getting nowhere fast !!
Not in QL Today, more likely to have been reviewed in an old QL World I'd have 
thought. If you've got one of the QL World index programs (archive based, by 
Chris Adams, can't remember if PD or Quanta library) you should be able to 
search that for the article, if you haven't found out by say 5pm tonight, send 
me an email before about 6pm when I normally log in from home, I'll try to 
remember to look for it as I do have the index program at home on disk.

Dilwyn Jones

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Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-12-02 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 16:17:43, David Tubbs wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])



btw there was a suggestion at QL2004 that a discussion group (rather
than a mailing list) could be set up to discuss principles, fundamentals
and long standing problems - any interest?

Tony

Surely anything that might avoid the torrents of recapitulation and
inappropriate Subject lines would be beneficial.

I was amazed that Wolfgang L was able to distill the proforma flow .

A forum environment that preserved threads would be so much better.
You should invest in a decent mailer.

Clearly QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
cannot manage this.  Maybe it can and you haven't configured it?

Turnpike optionally routes mail and assembles them in a forum-like (ie
newsgroup)  tree structure.
When using the ql-users routed list under Turnpike, I am really totally
unaware that it is _not_ a forum type group.

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Re: [ql-users] Discussion Group

2004-12-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Tony Tebby wrote:
 btw there was a suggestion at QL2004 that a discussion group (rather
 than a mailing list) could be set up to discuss principles,
fundamentals
 and long standing problems - any interest?
Wasn't aware of this - does it refer to matters in general or to the
OS?

(I don't want to be too negative, but we have gone down the road of
variations on mailing lists (QL-chat, Developers Forum, Bruin Forum
and so on) and none have been really as well taken up as this group.)

Or perhaps what you had in mind (how I read it) was for a group of
people with vested interests (meant positively) like traders,
developers, authors, editors and someone from Quanta committee to
pursue these matters with a view to making effective progress in
resolving issues as the need arises.

With the Proforma affair, what happened was that the matter was
discussed at length (and went round in circles) here until two or
three things happened.

1. The suggestion that it would turn into yet another of those issues
talked to death and nothing came of it in the end (referring back to
the meeting of the wise men in America to discuss future printing)

2. In the end, a smaller group actually decided to try to progress it
and do something about it (Wolfgang Lenerz, Rich Mellor and to a
lesser extent myself and a few others).

3. Wolfgang half volunteered, half got bullied into turning the
discussion into a reality, rather like the impression I got when he
became SMSQ/E registrar (not taking the michael, honest, he's done a
brilliant job in a short time).

I do get the impression that a small discussion group of determined
people could achieve what you seem to be proposing, especially if
those concerned had the knowledge and contacts to steer effective
discussion in the direction of effective action. The kind of people I
would see being involved are scattered so such a discussion group
would be electronic rather than meeting up three or four times a year
to discuss and sort out at shows, for example.

I'd liek to hear more views on this, and if I can do anything to help
present the idea and seek views etc through the pages of QL Today
(i.e. outside this list) I'd be happy to do what I can to help.

Dilwyn Jones

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[ql-users] QWord Trial version

2004-12-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
I have just downloaded the trial version of QWord from Rich Mellors web 
site :

http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/QWord.html
As well as the Manual by Geoff Wicks as an HTML file.
Both are zip files that unzip on a PC.
As most users on this list have a PC for internet access I would 
recommend that you try this new software.

Everything installs under PC Windows as QWord includes a Demo versin of 
QPC2 thanks to Marcel Kilgus. This then takes over as an emulator to run 
the software.  All of which installs itself with ease.

Well done to the team involved.
I guess this should get itself put on those free CD's that PC magazines 
are always promoting ... some PC users will be in for a bit of a shock 
:-)

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Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-12-02 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

PhOEbus (Öïßâïò) Dokos
-or so you won't transpose it again... FOIVOS NTOKOS so there :-) -
Cor ... not him ! I know that guy :-)
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Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter, monospace font

2004-12-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 1 Dec 2004 at 23:22, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:

 Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
  - font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably be a 
  monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
 
 I distincly remember spending a lot of time manually creating a simple 
 font, I think it was either called complete or builtin. Then 
 intention was to include all allowed characters in that one. Don't think 
 it ever got that far, but I do think it was a monospaced font.


Complete, yes.

However, what one wants probably isn't just a font but four fonts
(normal, bold, italic, bold+italic) which are grouped into a fontpack.
(else how do you produce , e.g., bold letters?)
IIRC, the builtin cimplete font is only normal,  isn't it?

Hence the courier (which exists as four fonts)

Wolfgang

www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com

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Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter, monospace font

2004-12-02 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:30:41 +0100,() Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

On 1 Dec 2004 at 23:22, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
 - font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably  
be a
 monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).

I distincly remember spending a lot of time manually creating a simple
font, I think it was either called complete or builtin. Then
intention was to include all allowed characters in that one. Don't think
it ever got that far, but I do think it was a monospaced font.

Complete, yes.
However, what one wants probably isn't just a font but four fonts
(normal, bold, italic, bold+italic) which are grouped into a fontpack.
(else how do you produce , e.g., bold letters?)
IIRC, the builtin cimplete font is only normal,  isn't it?
Hence the courier (which exists as four fonts)
I think I have adapted a proper monospace font (IIRC it wasn't Courier  
-which I BTW despise with a passion- but a full (Unicode) version of  
Bitrstream Monospace 821) using Joachim's modified PFB2PFF converter...  
which I am not sure I have anymore...
However time permitting I could either dig it out or whip up another one  
for inclusion :-) (The problem with PFB2PFF remains though... I will have  
to see if I have the newest version that can deal with Unicode PFBs or the  
older one that I originally bought)

Phoebus () - I want to see who can decode this one :-)
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[ql-users] Jungle Eddi - NOW RE-RELEASED

2004-12-02 Thread Rich Mellor
** ANNOUNCEMENT **
Just to let everyone know that I have now re-released Jungle Eddi for the 
QL (just in time for Christmas).

Cost is £5 on disk.  Unfortunately, it will not work on SMSQ/e or the 
Pointer Environment.
Needs a minimum of 256K RAM.

Details appear at:
http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/games.html
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Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-12-02 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Thu, 2 Dec 2004 at 23:28:02, David Tubbs wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

At 16:52 02/12/2004 +, you wrote:

Clearly QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2
cannot manage this.  Maybe it can and you haven't configured it?

Turnpike optionally routes mail and assembles them in a forum-like (ie
newsgroup)  tree structure.
When using the ql-users routed list under Turnpike, I am really totally
unaware that it is _not_ a forum type group.

I dont see any likelihood of that sort of trick, do you mean it gets
rid of those voluminous headers and recycle crud ? A long time since I
saw a Turnpike, it seemed cumbersome at the time.

The 'recycle crud' is absolutely no problem, as it is marked in red, so
the new comments are perfectly clear.  I actually prefer to see the
context in the message, rather than in a whole cycle of separate
messages.

What are the 'headers' you talk about?   You mean the email header?
That is hidden by default.

Tony
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Re: [ql-users] QWord Trial version

2004-12-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:29:09 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Both are zip files that unzip on a PC.
As most users on this list have a PC for internet access I would 
recommend that you try this new software.

Everything installs under PC Windows as QWord includes a Demo versin of 
QPC2 thanks to Marcel Kilgus. This then takes over as an emulator to 
run the software.  All of which installs itself with ease.

Well done to the team involved.
I guess this should get itself put on those free CD's that PC magazines 
are always promoting ... some PC users will be in for a bit of a shock
Excellent demo.
I can see I will like this game
There was sound at Byfleet which caused much amusement.  Nothing though 
on this demo.

Thankyou so much for your encouraging comments...
The sound is not included on the demo as it would make the whole download 
a lot bigger (plus I am stuck on dialup at the moment and so do not fancy 
uploading too large a file !!)

Watch out for some news soon...
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Re: [ql-users] The hardware

2004-12-02 Thread Marcel Kilgus
ZN wrote:
So didn't you get them? I had a brief look at them ages ago
and had the understanding that they're on their way to you.
 No, never got them... I only saw them when Keith oiginally got them and
 they were really faxed through and quite unreadable at that point. I have
 no idea what happened to them after that.

He did type them up, though I'm not sure whether it was already 100%
complete back then. Perhaps somebody could ask Keith? I don't have his
address.

 That would be the most logical choice for a regulat 'home use' machine, but
 not at all for something which can also be sold on the embedded market.
 SMSQ/E could be interesting in such markets even if emulated, but not at
 the price of involving PC hardware (although price is OK, reliability is
 questionable as is the cumbersome nature of it).

Right, I see.

 Actually, Motorola/Freescale just announced data for their V5 core. They
 did put back a few more things but most of the semi-compatibility remains.
 Even so, if you had the time to look at that long email on this issue, it's
 a whole lot more manageable if you restrict things to emulaing 68000 plus a
 few choice extensions.

See other mail.

 The ATX/BAT market is already served by the Qx0.
 Actually only BAT and that is very much dead. I'm thinking of even
 smaller.

I thought the design was done to fit in both cases, but I could be
wrong.

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-12-02 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Tebby wrote:
 btw there was a suggestion at QL2004 that a discussion group (rather
 than a mailing list) could be set up to discuss principles, fundamentals
 and long standing problems - any interest?

Well, I hate web based groups, but there is for example the usenet
group maus.computer.ql.intl, I just checked it for the first time in
months and it seems to be completely void of life.

Marcel

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