Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
ÎÎÎ Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:53:31 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: I tried from there several times recently, tho' now updated ! Not so in Duisburg. Well Jochen is busy as it is... be glad he does have a website :-). Given the shows, the schedule, the magazine etc it's a miracle he has time to breathe! If anything it is the website maintainers' (the OTHER websites) responsibility when you keep a "community link" to let people know that their links need to be updated. Any trader will update promptly if he already knows there's been a change :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
At 17:15 27/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: Την Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +,ο(η) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> έγραψε/wrote: Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! You would do if your name was beaten down to a pulp over the years... Of course the Pheobus spelling has evolved to a "Sturat" and "Ql-Toady" but the rest are rather annoying ;-) Imagine you been called Divad (or Vlade Divac for that matter ;-) -or other obvious anagrams ;-) Oh , I'd stamp my foot. The tweeness of Toady & Windoze makes me cringe. out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I can do about it. I bear no responsibility of course of other QL websites :-) It is the linking sites that are more of a pest. Nope, his website has moved here: http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/> Tell the rest too ! Most of them already know :-) It is after all in Dilwyn's site :-) I tried from there several times recently, tho' now updated ! Not so in Duisburg. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Q-Word Demo
If anyone is currently trying to download Q-Word Demo from Rich's website the links will be quasi-broken until 18:00 EST (23:00 GMT) as I am uploading updated setup versions! Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:15:23 -0500, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated That would be good if I could actually access that damn account.. it turns out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I can do about it. I bear no responsibility of course of other QL websites :-) Well can you not tell them to delete the site - maybe we should all bombard them with requests to remove it !! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
ÎÎÎ Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! You would do if your name was beaten down to a pulp over the years... Of course the Pheobus spelling has evolved to a "Sturat" and "Ql-Toady" but the rest are rather annoying ;-) Imagine you been called Divad (or Vlade Divac for that matter ;-) -or other obvious anagrams ;-) I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated That would be good if I could actually access that damn account.. it turns out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I can do about it. I bear no responsibility of course of other QL websites :-) Nope, his website has moved here: http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/> Tell the rest too ! Most of them already know :-) It is after all in Dilwyn's site :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated The problem is deleting or updating old links - there are still plenty of sites which point at my old website - I try to inform them and get them updated, but in many cases, it is impossible. Many of the updates can only be done by Thierry - and he does not have a lot of time to spend on websites. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Phoebe,English transliterated spelling. That way I won't be Pheobus, Phoebe, Fevus or whatnot ;-) Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! nothing seemed to work at 50meg, got the link from something like quantum ring, reached from Kit Lester via Dilwyn Tesco. Indeed it doesn't. The problem being that they started deleting stuff, disabling the links etc (until you'd pay I gather... at the time they send me an email and told me to pay or the website would get deleted) There seem so many duff links in this field - has T Godfroy left the scene ? I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated Nope, his website has moved here: http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/> Tell the rest too ! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
ÎÎÎ Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:13:33 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: >>http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip > Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with "right" I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no "formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks" and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. For that you need Q-Index and Q-Help from Rich Mellor that has all that and then some. Phoebe,English transliterated spelling. That way I won't be Pheobus, Phoebe, Fevus or whatnot ;-) nothing seemed to work at 50meg, got the link from something like quantum ring, reached from Kit Lester via Dilwyn Tesco. Indeed it doesn't. The problem being that they started deleting stuff, disabling the links etc (until you'd pay I gather... at the time they send me an email and told me to pay or the website would get deleted) There seem so many duff links in this field - has T Godfroy left the scene ? Nope, his website has moved here: http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/> ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: >>http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip > Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with "right" I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no "formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks" and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. Phoebe, nothing seemed to work at 50meg, got the link from something like quantum ring, reached from Kit Lester via Dilwyn Tesco. There seem so many duff links in this field - has T Godfroy left the scene ? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR results for assembling into an HTML document ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ...because it is still copyrighted and without expressed permission by Jan Jones it would be illegal! Phoebus P.S. Fair use, dictates that you can do it for yourself, quote it or use it for educational purpose (within an academic setting) but publicising it is a big NO NO. This is only right and fair to the author. In the UK you are only allowed to copy up to 10% of a work for personal use, after that you are breaking copyright. There are also arrangements to pay a fee to authors through photocopying and the like which has to take place in organisations like education, etc, that are always making and using copies of copyrighted works. Look up the ALCS site at : http://www.alcs.co.uk/ -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
ÎÎÎ Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:56:10 +0100,Î(Î) Marcel Kilgus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with "right" I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no "formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks" and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. Marcel That would be me :-) I was based to a great extent on that document (well a previous version of it to be exact) but had added variations for every platform version of SMSQ/e. I stopped it when SMSQ/e was on V.3.00 because of lack of time and relevant documentation. I can complete it if you want (and produce a separate version for QPC/Q40 etc..) This is done easily as it is properly (ie based on SGML that Ventura publisher uses... ie it has conditional codes, auto generation of index, auto sequencing etc) Moreover (and what is best) it is virtually indistinguishable from the original QL manual and it can directly replace the keywords section in one because it: a. LOOKS the same (same typefaces and sizes are used where I could find them) and b. is the same exact size! (Margins, Paper and all) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
David Tubbs wrote: >>http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip > Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with "right" I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no "formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks" and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
ÎÎÎ Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:06:15 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: At 05:16 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Marcel Nice one, danke ! Noch eine Dilwyn URL ! That is partly true. That old URL is something I was working on (and it includes a Dilwyn Jones' mirror -so that is partly true-) however it was abandoned after they told us that we had to pay (and reduced the available space from 50 megs to -I-don't-remember-what-exactly-but-it-was-unsuitable. I thought that the account was closed... apparently not! That's actually good news because I have stuff uploaded there -ie a Phil Borman's Website mirror, a DiRen/QL Fraternity mirror etc that I thought were lost forever (Not very good at keeping backups are we now?) :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
At 05:16 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Marcel Nice one, danke ! Noch eine Dilwyn URL ! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 02:59:09 +, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 20:33 26/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: ÃÂÃÂàMon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,ÃÂ(ÃÂ) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÃÂÃÂÃïÃÂÃËÃÂ/wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR results for assembling into an HTML document ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ...because it is still copyrighted and without expressed permission by Jan Jones it would be illegal! Phoebus P.S. Fair use, dictates that you can do it for yourself, quote it or use it for educational purpose (within an academic setting) but publicising it is a big NO NO. My own copy has been lost in removings, I have been looking for something that would just list basic keywords with syntax. Allwats meant to do it for myself in a form that one could cut&paste from. Even visited major resource site http://www.ql.50megs.com/ - no luck yet ! I thought that site no longer existed - wasn't it one of Dilwyn's?? Certainly it is a painful site with a pop up on every link ! Anyway, Marcel's suggested link is good - there is also the Q-Index and Q-Help programs which I sell :-) They give you basic syntax about each command. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
