RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
Yep. But I think Jeremys thinking is right, although I hate to say it. We need to just bite the bullet on a lot of this software, or it'll remain unused and covered in cobwebs. I think a long email or phone call to freddy is required, getting the status of every program in the bundle - just asking can each program become freeware. This should generate three possible answers in each case. 1. yes. 2. no. 3. don't know. So I suggest we work from there. I think this is vastly important. I can only talk of my own experience. I got into QL's via a box load of QL stuff I bought at a car boot sale, about 1993 or 4. There were 2 QL's - one working, one not - an expanderam, a disk drive, and about 30 QL user mags among other stuff, but very little software other than a few games and the psion stuff. I bought it all (for 35 quid IIRC) because I knew the QL was a powerful machine, having played a bit with Hilary O'Kelly's brand new one a few years earlier, and having been a ZX Spectrum user since December 1983. So, Hilary and I started a sort of club betweem us, and then Hilary bought the DP bundle - for 99 pounds I recall. I was blown away by the value and quality of the programs. And later (when I could afford it) I got a copy too. And all that led to where I am now - still a QL user. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident I would have lost interest in the QL without the DP collection. So, for me, I think its important to preserve the use of them. You can't tell me programs like Conqueror, Media manager, and the Editor where not ahead of their time? Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: John Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 15:23 To: QL Users Subject: Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software Jeremy Taffel wrote: So, let's stir things up a little. I don't own the whole DP collection, but I have original 3.5 floppies plus documentation of: Perfection Plus + Dictionaries , Lightning SE, Qmaths, and Microbridge which I never use. I will sell them all at a nominal price to anyone who is interested. If you are interested, contact me off list. But since you didn't buy the DP bundle, any such transaction would not be subject to the licence condition(s) under discussion :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
At 16:34 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. You miss my point, I do NOT NOT NOT mean QDOS zippery, which might or might not work ! ! ! (Bitter experience) I would suggest a choice between QPC and QLEM as the engine. A Windows ZIp file (XP reads without further assistance) containing the Emulator and two Wins, one for progs and one with some sample data.. The punter only has to squirt it onto any suitable device and invoke the emulator which should boot directly to a menu. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Count me in for a couple and I expect that a couple from the Nemqlug subgroup would also be interested. Regards, John Gilpin (individual) - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 16:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At 15:40 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: We will probably settle on buying the 128Mb sticks - they are now the smallest we do, which only a handful of 64Mb ones remaining. I think a 70-80Mb QXL.WIN file or similar would be enough on these, and this would leave ample room for other storage uses for the owner. To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? I was wrong then, I thought you were looking to introduce a new line. Well, it's a new idea in QL terms, but USB sticks are about for years. As to Sticks, quantity why ? Primarily to make it worthwhile. Example - I spent MONTHS working on the QL DVD documentary project. Steve Reyal practically devoted his life to it in the same period. We even bought a Mini DV camera - over 600 pounds at the time - with the sole motive being the DVD. Steve (a professional broadcasting editor and DVD author) designed slides shows, sampled music, wrote scripts, and designed the menus for the whole thing. Even blank DVD media was quite expensive at the time. Even doing rostrum camera work of a QL turning for the menu sequences. How many did we sell? Errr.. About 6 of them. Total financial disaster. So, I'm eager to avoid that again. Secondly, if I buy 100, I can get them printed with a logo of our choice, so I could get them with a QUANTA logo on, on maybe Sinclair in the famous block font. Makes the thing a touch more personal I think. Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. If the idea is to work, it should be a matter of plugging in the USB stick, and clicking an icon - and a few seconds later you have a useable QL screen in front on you, with maybe a BOOT running displaying a menu of options, and programs to run. Dead simple. A separate question is if a memory stick is marketable at that price and would it be worthwhile to engage in. This is the big question. Of the people on this list for instance, how many would buy one? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
A...I see what you mean. Ok, not a bad idea. I suppose this could also be available for download too. Though initially I think it better to stick (excuse pun) with the easy boot from the device idea... Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 17:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At 16:34 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. You miss my point, I do NOT NOT NOT mean QDOS zippery, which might or might not work ! ! ! (Bitter experience) I would suggest a choice between QPC and QLEM as the engine. A Windows ZIp file (XP reads without further assistance) containing the Emulator and two Wins, one for progs and one with some sample data.. The punter only has to squirt it onto any suitable device and invoke the emulator which should boot directly to a menu. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Darren Branagh wrote: Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Hi Darren, Although I will buy 2, if you think the 15 pounds (~$30) price is accurate then I will pledge to buy 10 if you needed me to. If you can get several other pledges then your risk will be reduced enough so you might give it a try. It will be a lot of work to bundle the software with a good interface but I bet there is enough of a market to consume 100 units over time. There could be a linux version too. Great Christmas presents to those wayward QLers we all know. Of course once a buyer has one he could easily make copies for the price of the stick but a logo on yours would make them special. -- Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Is anyone else from QUANTA following this thread? Could we offer to buy a block of them for our members who are not in receipt of QLToday (where it will no doubt be advertised) and who are not regular workshop attendees? Your thoughts gentlemen? John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer - Original Message - From: Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly On Thu, 19 May 2005, Darren Branagh wrote: Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Hi Darren, Although I will buy 2, if you think the 15 pounds (~$30) price is accurate then I will pledge to buy 10 if you needed me to. If you can get several other pledges then your risk will be reduced enough so you might give it a try. It will be a lot of work to bundle the software with a good interface but I bet there is enough of a market to consume 100 units over time. There could be a linux version too. Great Christmas presents to those wayward QLers we all know. Of course once a buyer has one he could easily make copies for the price of the stick but a logo on yours would make them special. -- Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
- Original Message - From: Darren Branagh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? This is the problem Quanta has with this project. Even 5 - 10 years ago the rule of thumb for the maximum viable production run for a hardware project was 50 units. Today even 50 may be too many. This is the reason we have asked Darren to give us some idea of costings, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
At 15 you count me in for one. How much for the stick, plus the DVD? Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Newson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I also bought them when it was offered (having never really bought any s/ware, it really expanded my collection). From the agreement: (10) Remember, by purchasing this collection you have agreed to its licence conditions. Note that it is for your personal use only (you can make a reasonable number of security backups of it or its contents - again, all for your own use only), and that you agree not to resell, or otherwise pass on, whether for reward or otherwise, any part (except and UNZIP) or all of it, or of any Digital Precision Ltd software already possessed by you, to _any_ third party, in any circumstances. Breaches of this will be dealt with severely. This means, among other things, that if you are disposing of part or all of your QL system you may NOT pass on this collection (or any part of it, except ZIP and UNZIP) with it. Umm ... interesting licence condition ...Breaches of this will be dealt with severely ... yet by whom exactly ? As DP has gone, the MD and software authors have all had their money ... -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes At 19:12 17/05/2005 +0100, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Then there are the compatibility issues with older software running on newer hardware or emulators. What do people want to see happen ? A little while ago Dilwyn gave a comprehensive list of Pointer Env requirements, time consuming, and how many times might such info be given ? My thoughts were why not a chart in spreadsheet form to show what works where and what does not ? I would suggest a column for each possible hardware and OS possibility. Col's for bare QL128, with TK2, then various floppy i/f's (I expect there are difff's between types), then HDD addons, then the newer hardware and various emulators. Yes, a good suggestion. Can you give a simple text example with some software that you use ? -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] New email address and address
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] dbranaghATcmsperipheralsDOTcom I'm one of the ones who used the O2 address. I thought the other one was a work email address. And that's fine, but as I said I only check it very infrequently. For a speedy response use the the work email. Dilwyn, can you put this change in the next QL Today? OK. The other option is to actually ban Darren from ever changing his email address again ... :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 15:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly There are atleast two very different users, those who have been using all along and those who would try to pick it up again after a long break. The latter is not as easy as it might seem, in the early days one added to noes system gradually, building slowly, very much harder to put everything together in a lump and remember how to write an efficient boot file. Which was why I made a suggestion under Darren Brannah's New Product Subject (100% ignored) for an emulator and full working environment on a memory card or stick. A complete Newbie could get started right away with a collection of PD software and sample progs. snip We will probably settle on buying the 128Mb sticks - they are now the smallest we do, which only a handful of 64Mb ones remaining. I think a 70-80Mb QXL.WIN file or similar would be enough on these, and this would leave ample room for other storage uses for the owner. To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? It all sounds promising, Darren. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Plus another one ... :-) Besides this will have novelty and souvenir appeal too. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Hi, Is that for 128Mb USB 2.0 Flash Memory Sticks... Derek Darren Branagh wrote: Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Darren. -Original Message- From: John Gilpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 17:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly Count me in for a couple and I expect that a couple from the Nemqlug subgroup would also be interested. Regards, John Gilpin (individual) - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 16:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At 15:40 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: We will probably settle on buying the 128Mb sticks - they are now the smallest we do, which only a handful of 64Mb ones remaining. I think a 70-80Mb QXL.WIN file or similar would be enough on these, and this would leave ample room for other storage uses for the owner. To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? I was wrong then, I thought you were looking to introduce a new line. Well, it's a new idea in QL terms, but USB sticks are about for years. As to Sticks, quantity why ? Primarily to make it worthwhile. Example - I spent MONTHS working on the QL DVD documentary project. Steve Reyal practically devoted his life to it in the same period. We even bought a Mini DV camera - over 600 pounds at the time - with the sole motive being the DVD. Steve (a professional broadcasting editor and DVD author) designed slides shows, sampled music, wrote scripts, and designed the menus for the whole thing. Even blank DVD media was quite expensive at the time. Even doing rostrum camera work of a QL turning for the menu sequences. How many did we sell? Errr.. About 6 of them. Total financial disaster. So, I'm eager to avoid that again. Secondly, if I buy 100, I can get them printed with a logo of our choice, so I could get them with a QUANTA logo on, on maybe Sinclair in the famous block font. Makes the thing a touch more personal I think. Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. If the idea is to work, it should be a matter of plugging in the USB stick, and clicking an icon - and a few seconds later you have a useable QL screen in front on you, with maybe a BOOT running displaying a menu of options, and programs to run. Dead simple. A separate question is if a memory stick is marketable at that price and would it be worthwhile to engage in. This is the big question. Of the people on this list for instance, how many would buy one? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Digital Precision Software
Hi, All. Thanks for the nice welcome message, also thanks to all who contributed with the interesting chatter. I agree about the relative value of the DP suite - it was hard to justify the cost then, and harder now, as I said I'm after them for nostalgic reasons. Sadly, the PC/Offife suite is so good these days it's hard to find a real need for a QL - hoping that won't annoy the hell out of those who cling to the machine as if it was new today. I loved my QL, but the world moved on. Dilwyn, notwithstanding the above, I'd be very grateful if you could ask Jochen to put an ad in QL Today. Jochen will remember me well from many years ago, having sent him an Atari ST three times to get an emulator fitted and then (no fault of his) being repaired many times. Rich Mellor has kindly sold (for £15) 6 out of the 10 disks (all he has). So I will still be after the remaining disks. The price seems very reasonable, and should act as a guide of the sort of sum I wish to pay. Sorry if anyone wants to make a fortune! Thanks again, all, and particularly Dilwyn. BTW, this is an excellent group - is it the best one (or even the only one). Stopped subscribing to Quanta about 4 years ago, no disrepect but the content got very tired. This group seems more lively! Stuart Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Undelete
There used to be a public domain utility, but think it would not work on a hard disk and most definitely not if you have saved to the disk since... On Thu, 19 May 2005 23:15:25 +0100, Stuart Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, again! Should have used this mail list ages ago! Does anyone know if there is a working undelete utility for: (a) files held on floppy disks, i.e. flp1_ (b) files held within win_ devices (you know, the virtual disks, used by QPC2). Part of the reason why I am after the DP collection is that I accidentally deleted a lot of the files within a win_ drive by picking the wrong tree and having thrown away the original floppies! Hoping someone knows what I mean and can help! Regards, Stuart ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Undelete
On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:15:25 -0400, Stuart Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, again! Should have used this mail list ages ago! Does anyone know if there is a working undelete utility for: (a) files held on floppy disks, i.e. flp1_ (b) files held within win_ devices (you know, the virtual disks, used by QPC2). Part of the reason why I am after the DP collection is that I accidentally deleted a lot of the files within a win_ drive by picking the wrong tree and having thrown away the original floppies! Well if you had the original disks and threw them away, I am pretty sure that you do not need to repay to buy them :-) In that case I'd be glad to send you zip files of each individual disk :-) It happened to me (with the DP collection as well!) and a nice chap on this list was kind enough to send me the missing files so I sympathise ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] New email address and address
On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:15:35 -0400, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] dbranaghATcmsperipheralsDOTcom I'm one of the ones who used the O2 address. I thought the other one was a work email address. And that's fine, but as I said I only check it very infrequently. For a speedy response use the the work email. Dilwyn, can you put this change in the next QL Today? OK. The other option is to actually ban Darren from ever changing his email address again ... :-) I am pretty sure that if Dilwyn would call Freddy he will be able to express it in a licence somewhere... (as in the excerpt below) Article III^2356632*128+6 I. The user shall be prohibited from reselling the software except when Mr. Branagh changes his email address. In such case the user shall be able to sell the software, provided he books a plane to Mayo Co., forces Mr. Branagh at gunpoint to revert to his old address and contractually binds him to refrain from EVER drinking Guinness again (or drink it icy cold in any case ;-) ) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
OT: Paging Derek (Was:Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly)
On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:21:04 -0400, Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derek, did you get my email I sent you about 2 weeks ago (in reply to your email)? Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Undelete
Dear Ffibys, I must confess that I did not buy the Collection as such until now. The situation is as follows. Around 10 years ago, and for some years previous, I purchased many individual titles of DP's programs. I guess I had around 30-40% of the complete set, at a cost of several hundred pounds. By then, the PC was slowly taking over, and the idea of buying the rest as a job lot in the form of the Collection, on a limited budget, didn't appeal. Subsequent to that, I purchased QPC2, and like you, using the virtual win_ disks, copied all my floppies and microdrives to a win_ file. Unfortunately, in a moment of madness, I accidentally used WDEL_ and deleted the wrong tree. By the time I realized, it was too late... Some of the floppies, where there entire contents were copied, were thrown away, others had deleted files (I still have these). Since then, I have purchased, second hand, a copy of the DP collection itself. Unfortunately, only 6 of the 10 disks were present, though the remainder of DP's programs are on around 30 floppy disks as individual titles. What I would like is a copy of the missing disks, numbers QL5, QL6, QL7, and QL10. In practice, I have all the titles, but not in the form I'd like (i.e. nice and neat). If you or anyone else could help me out, I'd be grateful. I do understand the copyright issue, but in view of the foregoing, and the 10 year gap, and the practical realities of the programs being effectively obsolete, I hope the request could be considered reasonably, rather than creating a furore over rights and wrongs! Regards, Stuart ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Undelete
At 23:15 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a working undelete utility for: I don't know of a utility myself. (a) files held on floppy disks, i.e. flp1_ Some years ago I did wander into the innards of the floppy, TK2's direct sector access very useful in this regard. My first meeting with PC material was a database which I converted to QL format by reading sector by sector into a file and manipulating with DP's Editor (magic prog). (b) files held within win_ devices (you know, the virtual disks, used by QPC2). I hope you have a backup of the WIN file, have not written to it since the fateful act. Then I would suggest you view it in a good Windows Hex editor and tweak the entries appropriately. This is not too difficult with written data that can be followed across sectors, programme code another ball game. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Market research
At 19:15 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: It is a pity that the survey was so poorly subscribed and that we learn nothing from it. About 25% of Quanta members completed the survey. Does that mean about 75 ? Professional market research expects a maximum 5% response. hardly a parallel, victims of Mkt Rsch don't pay £15 pounds not to participate. It suggests to me that most of those remaining on the books are those who have forgotten to cancel standing orders. On a similar point , how many members cast votes for the AGM ? At the time the survey was being tweaked I suggested traders should invite their customer base to participate, did you or any other do so ? It surprises me that there seems little desire to ascertain just how many and who are out there, less indeed than my own curiosity in the subject. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Digital Precision Software
DP were certainly ahead of their time. . at the time! Largely, they are of nostalgic interest only, except of course, for Turbo. Now QDT is something else, and I may purchase that one day! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Undelete
Another night owl ! I'd forgotten that programs are harder to recover. I remember using the LRESPR/SEXEC pairs to save such recovered files, with the file length and data length being set by trial and error. You could use Ql prog DISCED to insert dataspace value into the directory entry on a floppy, not sure about the WIN Deleted files in DOS are easily restored just by re-entering the first char' of the file name, I don't recall what the convention is in QDOS or what happens in the win file. A very fine HEX editor for Windows at http://www.kibria.de I would take a look at your file if you windows zipped it together with a DOS text dir list done in QL mode, obviously via email. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
