Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lafe McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Baseball, as played in the USA, was invented or organised by Abner Doubleday sometime in the mid to late nineteenth century. For many years it was played by men only. Women and girls were were relegated to softball, which is played with a larger less dense ball. In early years the runner could be tagged by being hit by a thrown ball. I refer you to : http://www.nra-rounders.co.uk/history.html Basketball was invented by Dr. James Neismith. Odly, in the list of University of Kansas basketball Coaches, Naismith was the only coach to post a lifetime losing record. In the early years of basktball, women played a modified version in which players were divided offence and defence, each restricted their own half court.Only men played full court. You have got me there because, as far as I can see we copied our netball from the US. Interesting that it was deemed to be girls sport in the UK though but then our rugby player don't wear helmets, padded shirts etc. Tee hee. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only played by Americans ? The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from the US and Canada are in the League. Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays and the Montreal Astros. The World Series started in 1903, long before Japan or other nations has professional baseball. So the US and Canada constitute the world do they. Interesting geography. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Timothy Swenson wrote: Why, of course. Well, at least the important part of the World. :-) Which, of course, reminds me of this here :-) http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~adlr/america.gif Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Timothy Swenson wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only played by Americans ? The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from the US and Canada are in the League. Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays and the Montreal Astros. The World Series started in 1903, long before Japan or other nations has professional baseball. Tim Swenson Baseball, as played in the USA, was invented or organised by Abner Doubleday sometime in the mid to late nineteenth century. For many years it was played by men only. Women and girls were were relegated to softball, which is played with a larger less dense ball. In early years the runner could be tagged by being hit by a thrown ball. Basketball was invented by Dr. James Neismith. Odly, in the list of University of Kansas basketball Coaches, Naismith was the only coach to post a lifetime losing record. In the early years of basktball, women played a modified version in which players were divided offence and defence, each restricted their own half court.Only men played full court. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On 10 Jul 2004 at 2:16, P Witte wrote: (...) Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention, didnt quite make it. A desperate attempt to get back on topic...:-) Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball. In the UK these are called rounders and netball and are played by girls only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only played by Americans ? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:31:15 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only. Apart from that how come you have a 'World Series' that is only played by Americans ? The Major League Baseball (MLB) has a World Series because teams from the US and Canada are in the League. Canada has the Toronto Blue Jays and the Montreal Astros. The World Series started in 1903, long before Japan or other nations has professional baseball. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Etch! As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA, Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under. All the rest of you guys play soccer! The most colorful officials that I have seen on TV was the Assize's version football. Lafe McCorkle Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) wrote: On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Lafe McCorkle wrote: Etch! As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA, Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under. Uh well, that actually reminds me of a cartoon from the American Dave Kellett: http://www.kilgus.net/images/sheldon-football.gif Sorry, couldn't resist :-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Lafe McCorkle wrote: Etch! As far as I am concerned, football is only played in the USA, Canada and to a lesser extent Down Under. Uh well, that actually reminds me of a cartoon from the American Dave Kellett: http://www.kilgus.net/images/sheldon-football.gif Sorry, couldn't resist :-) Marcel Well done, Marcel, and well taken! Socker does indeed involve more footwork, but in America football has been football for well over a hundred years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!) Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball. Surely the name football was applied to our game because field goals and extra points are kicked,and that major movement is by running on feet, as opposed to on hourse as in polo. Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:31:31 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done, Marcel, and well taken! Socker does indeed involve more footwork, but in America football has been football for well over a hundred years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!) Sports that are undisputed are baseball and basketball. Surely the name football was applied to our game because field goals and extra points are kicked,and that major movement is by running on feet, as opposed to on hourse as in polo. Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game. Just to complicate matters, we have Rugby Football here in Britain as well. Stick to SOCCER for international discussion, everyone knows what we mean then! -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm From wordorigins.org: Soccer is an abbreviation for Association Football. The Football Association was formed in London in October 1863 when representatives of eleven clubs and schools met in an attempt to standardize the rules of the game. One of the rules prohibited the carrying of the ball, a rule that would lead to the Rugby-oriented clubs leaving the Association several months later. The name Association Football was coined to distinguish it from Rugby. By 1889, the abbreviation socca' was in use, and the spelling soccer had made its appearance by 1895. Now Lafe might want to consider that (American) Football is called such by a mere 300 million people while the rest of the world's billions by Football mean Soccer football :-) To put it mildly, for the Euro 2004 final match, Indonesians stayed up and many missed or were late for their polls don't see anybody doing that for the Superbowl ;-) My (Euro2004 champion-holders - yes the German is crazy!*) 2 cents :-) Phoebus -- (*) Favourite chant of Greek fans for King Otto the 2nd ;-) (Who by the looks of it moves to the German National Team sometime soon) -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Lafe McCorkle writes: .. but in America football has been football for well over a hundred years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!) Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game. Football has been football in England since the 12th century or so (although the Chinese and others have played a similar game as far back as 200 BC). Rugby, a deviation from the game as it was played in the early 19th century, came about when some chaps at a school of that name broke the rules and carried the ball. This variant is the father of American football. Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention, didnt quite make it. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 02:16:39 +0100, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lafe McCorkle writes: .. but in America football has been football for well over a hundred years! (as is true of your football in Europe as well I assume!) Yes, I still claim the name football for our sport, at least in our country, where socker is a jonny come lately game. Football has been football in England since the 12th century or so (although the Chinese and others have played a similar game as far back as 200 BC). Rugby, a deviation from the game as it was played in the early 19th century, came about when some chaps at a school of that name broke the rules and carried the ball. This variant is the father of American football. Football, as she is played worldwide (with a few, minor exceptions) was a major British hit while, sadly, the QL, another great British invention, didnt quite make it. That's probably because Sir Clive wasn't Sir Clive Von Sinclair (or of other Germanic origin in any case ;-) ) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Newson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece ! As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice ), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really earned it :-) You know why they beat them? The French, Portugese Czechs took one look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it was all Greek to them... Umm ... that could be why the Greeks like the QL too :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece ! As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice ), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really earned it :-) You know why they beat them? The French, Portugese Czechs took one look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it was all Greek to them... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:12:57 +0100, Robert Newson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Nice to see the outsider win ... well done to Greece ! As they beat the holders - France, the host nation - Portugal ( twice ), and the other strong outsiders - the Czechs ... I guess they really earned it :-) You know why they beat them? The French, Portugese Czechs took one look at their opposition playing football and couldn't work it out: it was all Greek to them... *bzz* Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-) (Which I take it should be equally foreign ;-) to them :-P Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
*bzz* Wrong :-) They were actually playing German football ;-) yeahh, better than the german did ;- (Which I take it should be equally foreign ;-) to them :-P ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Who taught the Greeks to play football ?
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 at 16:56:35, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:10:18 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahooo :-) Hehe Too bad for the BBC Sport commentators ;-) They were all proven wrong ;-) CHeers :-) Did you have money on them then (at 250:1)? -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
