Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
On Tue, 3 May 2005 at 21:32:37, Timothy Swenson wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:37 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: National Minimum Wage is pretty normal wages unless you happen to work for national organisations paying national pay rates (public bodies basically)! National pay rates? Man, not in the US. We have folks in some parts of the US working for the my company, doing basically the same job at half of what I make. Some areas have a very high cost of living (SF, LA, etc) and some areas have a very low cost of living (rural America). Never heard of such a thing a National pay rates. Boy, does that sound foreign. :-) That is a national -minimum- wage of £4.85 ph (increasing to £5.05 in October) for 22 yr plus. .. and that is all. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
National Minimum Wage is pretty normal wages unless you happen to work for national organisations paying national pay rates (public bodies basically)! National pay rates? Man, not in the US. We have folks in some parts of the US working for the my company, doing basically the same job at half of what I make. Some areas have a very high cost of living (SF, LA, etc) and some areas have a very low cost of living (rural America). Tim Swenson Actually, it's getting rarer here. Back in the days when I worked for the BBC, whatever job you did, you got paid the same for doing the same job as a guy in another city (apart from London where the higher cost of living attracted higher salaries to prevent drain of employees to the regions). This was good for me...at the time, cost of living was low here compared to the cities, but I got paid the same as the people in the big cities. I think public bodies such as government institutions, hospitals, and so on are the main ones where there is a fairly consistent rate of pay nationwide. The 'National Minimum Wage' is a separate issue, I don't remember what it is (approximately 5 pounds per hour) and it was introduced to guarantee people a minimum income level to try to lift the lower paid out of poverty because employers were paying abysmally low wages in some areas. It had mixed results. It did help lower paid people, but (perhaps predictably) it became a standard rate in some areas of industry where bosses just said, OK, we might have paid 7 pounds an hour but we'll take the easy option and pay the national minimum wage. In the area where I live, it somehow became a de facto standard rate of pay in many businesses, so whereas it helped the lowest paid, it also had the effect of lowering the average wage. So pretty mixed effects really, but most people seem to be in favour of it because I'm sure knowing bosses in this area we'd still have people on 2 pounds per hour if it wasn't for the national minimum wage. Britain introduced it a few years ago, I don 't know how many other countries have a similar system. This has other spin-off effects as well. Areas like this on a low average income suffer from the problems that because they are seen as nice areas to live in, house prices go up to what can be afforded. In our case, house prices have largely gone out of reach of locals because of incomers on huge salaries driving up prices - if you have a terraced house worth £200K in London, you could buy a huge house around here for that much but most local people would be lucky to be able to afford to take out a mortgage for just over half that amount, so it causes local anger at not being able to afford anything because of local poverty making you unable to compete with incomers from rich areas which in turn causes the problem to spiral ever worse and causes local anger and resentment at incomers who then initially complain then seek to take over. It is not confined to this area of course and I'm sure the problem is present in many areas. Never heard of such a thing a National pay rates. Boy, does that sound foreign. :-) I find it amazing attitudes can vary so much. When the NMW was introduced here the doom and gloom merchants were saying it would kill off industry, the mean bosses who wanted slave wages said the country couldn't afford it, yet here we are not only surviving but now with all the major political parties in favour (including the right wing ones who you might expect to be against it). Sensibly implemented, well regulated so as not to be oppressive to business in red tape terms and so on it's generally agreed to be a good thing for the poorest in society even if it has the effect of slightly depressing average wages because those in the mid-scale rates of pay ended up slightly worse off on average. You tend not to appreciate these things until you're caught up in these issues yourself! (gets off his bandwagon to vote at the general election tomorrow!!!) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:37 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: National Minimum Wage is pretty normal wages unless you happen to work for national organisations paying national pay rates (public bodies basically)! National pay rates? Man, not in the US. We have folks in some parts of the US working for the my company, doing basically the same job at half of what I make. Some areas have a very high cost of living (SF, LA, etc) and some areas have a very low cost of living (rural America). Never heard of such a thing a National pay rates. Boy, does that sound foreign. :-) Indeed ... but then the UK does have national pay agreements, because of national union membership for example. However, as the size of the whole of the UK is less than many of the individual 'states' in the US, perhaps not so surprising ... :-) Yet, then again, given the history of the UK, right down to very local individuality ... like ... regions, counties, cities, towns, villages, etc ... it is surprisingly that we do agree on anything ... :-) The sign of mature democracy. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
On Wed, 04 May 2005 03:30:00 -0400, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip such a thing a National pay rates. Boy, does that sound foreign. :-) That is a national -minimum- wage of 4.85 ph (increasing to 5.05 in October) for 22 yr plus. Haha Pennsylvania has $5.15/hr minimum (hehe compare that to 5.05 pounds which is almost double) which they tax to death :-)... Funniest thing of all... in order to be able to work you pay TAX! (Not the income tax, but a sort of a toll ;-)). Which means that if you don't pay that tax, then you are not allowed to work (so you can be taxed for your income :-) .. and that is all. And that's better than what it is here :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Jeremy Taffel wrote: I think you must store up all these bits of work, keeping quiet about them and just waiting for someone to make a request, so you can blow everyone's minds by the speed of your response. ;-) Nice theory ;-) And in that case not entirely untrue, as said the .WIN file was in the works for years now, I just sometimes need a push to get finished. So what else have you up your sleeve that we don't yet know about? Hm no, sleeve's all empty now. My work here is done ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Roy wood wrote: So much for Roy's response to my plea for a better demo. Thanks for the update; now to have a play.. I was just trying to protect Marcel from too many demands on him. Yes, much appreciated actually. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Why does not everyone buy the a full copy of QPC2, as it is not that expensive. The all the functionality is there. Especially as the TCP/IP interface has been implemented, new QL based Internet applications could not be developed. I was going use UQLX for this, but QPC2 looks a better way to do this. Derek Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes So much for Roy's response to my plea for a better demo. Thanks for the update; now to have a play.. I was just trying to protect Marcel from too many demands on him. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Why does not everyone buy the a full copy of QPC2, as it is not that expensive. The all the functionality is there. Especially as the TCP/IP interface has been implemented, new QL based Internet applications could not be developed. I was going use UQLX for this, but QPC2 looks a better way to do this. Derek Actually, QPC2 is expensive to many people. An outlay of £65.00 would be too much for people on low wages or for pensioners. If you can afford it, QPC2 is well worth the money, and you are getting the best QL emulator, but to say QPC2is not expensive - I would dispute that. It is an outlay of more than a third of my weekly take home wage for example, which is pretty average for Wales. Round here, National Minimum Wage is pretty normal wages unless you happen to work for national organisations paying national pay rates (public bodies basically)! -- Dilwyn Jones -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.18 - Release Date: 19/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:45:49 +0100, Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does not everyone buy the a full copy of QPC2, as it is not that expensive. The all the functionality is there. Hmmm.. Let's see I have already spent $$$ on a Q40. UQLX is free. I hardly get to touch my PC at home. I've been spending all my recent $$ on photography equipment (Nikon D70, SB600, Nikkor 18-70mm, Tamron 70-300mm, Monopod, camera bag, etc). Does this explain why? :-) Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
On Tue, 3 May 2005 20:46:37 +0100, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: National Minimum Wage is pretty normal wages unless you happen to work for national organisations paying national pay rates (public bodies basically)! National pay rates? Man, not in the US. We have folks in some parts of the US working for the my company, doing basically the same job at half of what I make. Some areas have a very high cost of living (SF, LA, etc) and some areas have a very low cost of living (rural America). Never heard of such a thing a National pay rates. Boy, does that sound foreign. :-) Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:45:49 +0100, Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does not everyone buy the a full copy of QPC2, as it is not that expensive. The all the functionality is there. Hmmm.. Let's see I have already spent $$$ on a Q40. UQLX is free. I hardly get to touch my PC at home. I've been spending all my recent $$ on photography equipment (Nikon D70, SB600, Nikkor 18-70mm, Tamron 70-300mm, Monopod, camera bag, etc). Yeah. After a million posts, finaly a talk about some decent hardware here. ;o) I hav just plopped the dough for Canon's 350-D and am looking for a decent wideand telephoto lens I was just about to grab Sigma 12-24mm when guy at the store told me to wait a day or two for newest similar Tamron and recomended Tamron 70-300mm for telephoto. Since you have it, can you share the experience ? I know it's OT but goddamnit, all the spam in the world has sniffed my mail on this list and has no problems pouring in my MB, so it's not the right time to get holly about OT now... ;o/ Best regards, Branko ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes So much for Roy's response to my plea for a better demo. Thanks for the update; now to have a play.. I was just trying to protect Marcel from too many demands on him. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Marcel Kilgus wrote: I'd just like to inform you that a somewhat bigger update has happened to www.kilgu.net. Of course thats www.kilgus.net ... Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm So much for Roy's response to my plea for a better demo. Thanks for the update; now to have a play.. I think you must store up all these bits of work, keeping quiet about them and just waiting for someone to make a request, so you can blow everyone's minds by the speed of your response. ;-) So what else have you up your sleeve that we don't yet know about? Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
Hi Marcel, I cant download (error 404: Datei nicht gefunden!). Can you check whether the link is working, please? Per - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated Marcel Kilgus wrote: I'd just like to inform you that a somewhat bigger update has happened to www.kilgu.net. Of course thats www.kilgus.net ... Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
P Witte wrote: I cant download (error 404: Datei nicht gefunden!). Can you check whether the link is working, please? Argh, true. Try again. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I'd just like to inform you that a somewhat bigger update has happened to www.kilgu.net. Umm ... does this finally reveal that Marcel is really a Klingon, of Star Trek fame ... :-) ? Hence the large brain power . QPC: New SMSQ/E, new manuals, new demo hard disc(!) read to check out, more utility software QPCPrint: New QPCPrint section including free demo to check out SMSQ/E: new version of sprite converter that can produce solid sprites (sprite without a mask, i.e. just a pattern). This format is drawn more rapidly and produces much smaller files, good for big images within menus and the like or even images in general. Only supported from SMSQ/E 3.10 onwards (or more specifically PTR CON driver 2.02). Have fun. Any feedback, especially regarding the demo hard disc, is appreciated. Thanks for the info and work, I will check out the site this weekend. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
