Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
wrap your lines at 72 chars. On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:57:09AM +0530, D Rajesh wrote: Whenever a qmail-remote tries to send a mail to hotmail.com. it hangs for sometime. As I had 8000 out of 30,000 mails as hotmail ID's the number of occurrence's of hotmail were more. So, the 300 qmail-remote processes were just hanging, trying to send those mails. So, whenever one process time-out , it gives way for other mail's to be sent. Hotmail is broken. you cannot fix this. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
D Rajesh wrote: Hi there, Firstly, sorry for a long mail. I have sent 30,000 mails to different domains like yahoo, hotmail, rediff etc... Before mentioning the problem the configuration that I have used in qmail is as follows:- qmail config -- 1.) Two qmails running at /var/qmail and /var/qmail1 with silent concurrency limit to 200 for both What was wrong with the answer I gave you on Tuesday? One more time, set up a box called slowmail and smtproute your slow moving deliveries to it. Mike
RE: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
Are you saying that qmail cannot send mail to a hotmail account? Dave. -Original Message- From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery wrap your lines at 72 chars. On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:57:09AM +0530, D Rajesh wrote: Whenever a qmail-remote tries to send a mail to hotmail.com. it hangs for sometime. As I had 8000 out of 30,000 mails as hotmail ID's the number of occurrence's of hotmail were more. So, the 300 qmail-remote processes were just hanging, trying to send those mails. So, whenever one process time-out , it gives way for other mail's to be sent. Hotmail is broken. you cannot fix this. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 10:57:09AM +0530, D Rajesh wrote: Whenever a qmail-remote tries to send a mail to hotmail.com. it hangs for sometime. As I had 8000 out of 30,000 mails as hotmail ID's the number of occurrence's of hotmail were more. So, the 300 qmail-remote processes were just hanging, trying to send those mails. So, whenever one process time-out , it gives way for other mail's to be sent. Hotmail is broken. you cannot fix this. Try running a real MTA like Iplanet messaging server, Sendmail, Notes or Exchange server. Even Exchange 4.0 is more advanced than qmail. Qmail was an attractive option when we had less than 300 users, because it was free, but now that our company has over 1500, it is not robust enough. Hotmail is a modified attempt at fixing the qmail bugs. Hotmail is only using qmail today because a change in software will cause an interruption in service. They are stuck with it for the time being. Regards, Jack
Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:25:16AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Try running a real MTA like Iplanet messaging server, Sendmail, Notes or Exchange server. Even Exchange 4.0 is more advanced than qmail. Qmail was an attractive option when we had less than 300 users, because it was free, but now that our company has over 1500, it is not robust enough. Hotmail is a modified attempt at fixing the qmail bugs. Hotmail is only using qmail today because a change in software will cause an interruption in service. They are stuck with it for the time being. Why do we have 10 trolls on this list all of a sudden? Go away! Greetz, Peter -- Against Free Sex! http://www.dataloss.nl/Megahard_en.html
Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:25:16AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try running a real MTA like Iplanet messaging server, Sendmail, Notes or Ex [lots of nonsense deleted] *plonk* ignore this guy. -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
Re: Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
Peter van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:25:16AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Try running a real MTA like Iplanet messaging server, Sendmail, Notes or Exchange server. Even Exchange 4.0 is more advanced than qmail. Qmail was an attractive option when we had less than 300 users, because it was free, but now that our company has over 1500, it is not robust enough. Hotmail is a modified attempt at fixing the qmail bugs. Hotmail is only using qmail today because a change in software will cause an interruption in service. They are stuck with it for the time being. Why do we have 10 trolls on this list all of a sudden? Go away! Peter, It's most likely the same person who started the 'Peter from the Dike' thread. At least he's using the same sneakemail service. If everybody just ignores anything sent from sneakemail.com then we will probably be a whole lot better off. Mike
Problem with qmail-remote during Delivery
Hi there, Firstly, sorry for a long mail. I have sent 30,000 mails to different domains like yahoo, hotmail, rediff etc... Before mentioning the problem the configuration that I have used in qmailis as follows:- qmail config -- 1.) Two qmails running at /var/qmail and /var/qmail1 with silent concurrency limit to 200 for both The parameters below are the same in qmail-control of /var/qmail and /var/qmail1 2.) concurrencyremote = 150 3.) queuelifetime = 78400 4.) timeoutremote = 180 5.) timeoutsmtpd = 180 and all the others are default parameters. I have sent 30,000 mails, using qmail-inject of both qmail directories on rotation. All the 30,000 mails were put in queue with in 7 minutes and qmail-remote was also running parallelly to send mails. Now,as in the parameter concurrencyremote totally 300 ( 150from /var/qmail and 150 from /var/qmail1 ) qmail-remote processes have started sending mails. But, here cropped up the problem. Whenever a qmail-remote tries to send a mail to hotmail.com. it hangs for sometime. As I had 8000 out of 30,000 mails as hotmail ID's the number of occurrence's of hotmail were more. So, the 300 qmail-remote processes were just hanging, trying to send those mails. So, whenever one process time-out , it gives way for other mail's to be sent. SO, Due to this it took nearly 24HOURS to SEND all the mails. I feelsending 30,000 mailswould have finishedin less that 20 minutes if this situation is avoided Was I wrong at any config ? how can we avoid these situations ??? Is there any waythat qmail-remote can implicitly drop sending these for some time ?? BTW what is this silent concurrency limit different to concurrency remote ??? Thanks Regards,Rajesh,tech solutions,[EMAIL PROTECTED],Intercept Consulting - INDIA.
