Re: [qmailadmin] Aliases/Forwards

2003-06-01 Thread Gerald Villemure
- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Hedlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 New code is going to write to the .qmail- file with the email address
 either way so that it's more consistent (this does not change behavior
 in any way-- except that with the current vpopmail code, it will
process
 the 'aliased' users .qmail file properly).

This will fix the first major problem as listed in:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmailadminm=105361966010705w=2

I my view creating an alias that by-basses the maildrop's .qmail file
has ALWAYS been a bad idea.  It only confuses the end user.

If you can, it would be nice to include the fallback address in your
fix.

Many thanks,
GĂ©rald

PS.  This will be the 3rd time someone creates a patch to fix this
problem.  I hope this time it gets adopted.





Re: [qmailadmin] Aliases/Forwards

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Hedlund
Gerald Villemure wrote:
This will fix the first major problem as listed in:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmailadminm=105361966010705w=2
I my view creating an alias that by-basses the maildrop's .qmail file
has ALWAYS been a bad idea.  It only confuses the end user.
I agree.  In fact, there should be a patch going into vpopmail soon that 
will cause the users .qmail file to be processed even if a /Maildir/ is 
specified in an alias file.  (but my patch to qmailadmin will start 
writing it as an e-mail address anyway).

If you can, it would be nice to include the fallback address in your
fix.
My previously mentioned vpopmail patch should also fix this problem, the 
part of the vpopmail patch that will fix it is here: 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=vchkpwm=105301620128601w=2
(that does not include the part to fix the parsing of .qmail files with 
a Maildir/, but that will be part of the final patch that will hopefully 
be admitted into the next release of vpopmail)

PS.  This will be the 3rd time someone creates a patch to fix this
problem.  I hope this time it gets adopted.
I'm optimistic! :)

Jeff




Re: [qmailadmin] Aliases/Forwards

2003-06-01 Thread Tom Collins
On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 06:10  AM, Gerald Villemure wrote:
PS.  This will be the 3rd time someone creates a patch to fix this
problem.  I hope this time it gets adopted.
I've been talking to Jeff directly, and this will be adopted in my next 
release of qmailadmin.  It's been on my to do list, and I have copies 
of the last two patches that I was going to review/apply to the source 
when I had time.

Updating the UI at the same time is a great idea.

--
Tom Collins
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[qmailadmin] interface change?

2003-06-01 Thread Michael R . Bagnall
I just installed 1.0.20 with the help menu's turned on and when I ran 
it there was no links for the help menus, nor were there the version 
numbers for qmailadmin and vpopmail. did something change in the 
install process? I have all my ./configure stuff done in a script for 
each program and didn't notice any changes for qmailadmin to implement 
these things. Insight?

Thanks;

Michael R. Bagnall
Powertools Productions, LLC
PO Box 325, Lebanon, TN 37088
(615) 453-1141 / (800) 444-1563
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.powertools.net



Re: [qmailadmin] Aliases/Forwards

2003-06-01 Thread Trey Nolen

 New code is going to write to the .qmail- file with the email address
 either way so that it's more consistent (this does not change behavior
 in any way-- except that with the current vpopmail code, it will process
 the 'aliased' users .qmail file properly).


If I understand you correctly, you are going to make it so that there is no
such thing as an alias, not only in the UI, but in the code.  This would be
a good thing, I think. We currently use only forwards because there are some
instances where alias won't work (eg. an alias points to an address that is
forwarded).   We have some users that get confused with this, and removing
the alias would help a lot.

Trey Nolen





Re: [qmailadmin] Aliases/Forwards

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Hedlund
Trey Nolen wrote:
If I understand you correctly, you are going to make it so that there is no
such thing as an alias, not only in the UI, but in the code.  This would be
a good thing, I think. We currently use only forwards because there are some
instances where alias won't work (eg. an alias points to an address that is
forwarded).   We have some users that get confused with this, and removing
the alias would help a lot.
You understand correctly :)

Jeff




Re: [qmailadmin] interface change?

2003-06-01 Thread Tom Collins
On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 08:07  AM, Michael R. Bagnall wrote:
I just installed 1.0.20 with the help menu's turned on and when I ran 
it there was no links for the help menus, nor were there the version 
numbers for qmailadmin and vpopmail. did something change in the 
install process? I have all my ./configure stuff done in a script for 
each program and didn't notice any changes for qmailadmin to implement 
these things. Insight?
Did you download an install the help files?

http://www.inter7.com/devel/qmailadmin-help-1.0.8.tar.gz

I've been contacted by the original author of those files, and he is 
working on an update for the next production/stable release (hopefully 
coming soon!).

--
Tom Collins
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[qmailadmin] Re: Postmaster catchall doesn't forward

2003-06-01 Thread Thorsten Voss
again: that was in my patch, too 

i've mailed (naged) some inter7 members several times but they never did any 
thing to get my fixes into qmailadmin 

:( 

Tom Collins schrieb: 

On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 09:30  AM, Alan Murrell wrote:
When I set Postmaster as the default catchall
account, and put a forwarding address in it, the mails
do not forward; they just stay in the Postmaster's
box. 

Is this a bug that has been fixed in the latest
version, or is this just something that isn;t supposed
to work?
That is a bug that should be fixed in the next (1.0.21) release.  See the 
Aliases/Forwards thread that just started on the mailing list. 

It's been a long standing problem and we're going to take care of it all 
around.  We'll be patching qmailadmin to use email addresses for the 
catchall, forwards and aliases instead of using direct Maildir delivery 
(which bypasses any special rules set up for that address, like forwarding 
postmaster). 

The interim solution is to use a remote address catchall to bypass the 
postmaster mailbox. 

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Tom Collins
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RE: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6

2003-06-01 Thread John Morrow
I downloaded new files ran ./configure then make.
I get the following error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qmailadmin-1.0.6]# make
cd .  automake --foreign Makefile
configure.in:3: your implementation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE comes from
an
configure.in:3: old Automake version.  You should recreate
aclocal.m4
configure.in:3: with aclocal and run automake again.
make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1

I then run aclocal and automake then make.
This is when I get the QA_PACKAGE error.

John Morrow

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Hedlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:11 AM
To: John Morrow
Subject: Re: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6

I haven't tried compiling 1.0.6, but QA_PACKAGE is the variable that 
holds 'qmailadmin' and QA_VERSION holds the version number (1.0.6 in 
this case)

You didn't run autoconf, did you?  ./configure should have taken care of 
the QA_PACKAGE and QA_VERSION.

Jeff






Re: [qmailadmin] Re: Postmaster catchall doesn't forward

2003-06-01 Thread Tom Collins
On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 10:43  AM, Thorsten Voss wrote:
again: that was in my patch, too
i've mailed (naged) some inter7 members several times but they never 
did any thing to get my fixes into qmailadmin
:(
Please send a copy of the patch directly to Jeff, as he is doing work 
directly related to it right now.

I promise that it will be in the next release.

If anyone else has patches for qmailadmin, and even vpopmail, please 
send them to me and I'll try to add them to the official release.

I am working with sourceforge on establishing projects for qmailadmin 
and vpopmail.  I'll keep you up to date as it progresses.

--
Tom Collins
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RE: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6

2003-06-01 Thread John Morrow
That did it. Went through configure, make and make install-strip.
Thanks a lot.  Now could you please briefly explain to a newbie what the
touch command did?

John Morrow

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:23 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6
 
 The automake/autoconf files for qmailadmin have been messed up for some
 time now.  Jeff Hedlund has made some progress on fixing them up, and
 his changes will be in the upcoming 1.0.21 release (sometime early next
 week).
 
 After downloading qmailadmin 1.0.6, try running `touch *` in the
 qmailadmin-1.0.6 directory before you do .configure.  That might
 prevent it from running automake.
 
 --
 Tom Collins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 






Re: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6

2003-06-01 Thread Tom Collins
On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 02:24  PM, John Morrow wrote:
That did it. Went through configure, make and make install-strip.
Thanks a lot.  Now could you please briefly explain to a newbie what 
the
touch command did?
The touch command sets the modification date/time of a file (or, in 
this case, all files in the directory) to the current date/time.  
Autoconf/automake compare timestamps on the various files to determine 
whether any of them need to be rebuilt (if the file X is used to create 
file Y, and X is newer than Y, then Y should be rebuilt).  I'm still 
getting up to speed on it myself (like which files create each other 
file), but have found that the touch trick works great.

Fixing the autoconf/automake related files is on the fix list, and Jeff 
Hedlund has made good progress on it.  He was able to fix a lot of the 
problems, and those changes will be added to the 1.0.21 release.

--
Tom Collins
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RE: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6

2003-06-01 Thread John Morrow
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [qmailadmin] Make error while compiling qmailadmin-1.0.6
 
 The touch command sets the modification date/time of a file (or, in
 this case, all files in the directory) to the current date/time.
 Autoconf/automake compare timestamps on the various files to determine
 whether any of them need to be rebuilt (if the file X is used to create
 file Y, and X is newer than Y, then Y should be rebuilt).  I'm still
 getting up to speed on it myself (like which files create each other
 file), but have found that the touch trick works great.
 
 Fixing the autoconf/automake related files is on the fix list, and Jeff
 Hedlund has made good progress on it.  He was able to fix a lot of the
 problems, and those changes will be added to the 1.0.21 release.
 
 --
 Tom Collins
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
Thanks it worked great, I was able to get it installed.

John Morrow