Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards
On 12/30/2011 10:36 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 12/30/2011 10:37 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena would be more helpful. Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start). There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified. I am not sure we're on the same page. Brief explanation of my situation. I see now that we're not. I was talking about fwds to external addresses. Was that mentioned anywhere? ;) Reading comprehension FTW. I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something. It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail addresses. ie. fe...@example.com craigsl...@example.com netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com I do this as well, although less frequently than I used to. The other reason and why I still do it is to terminate communication if needed. Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards, and Facebook complains. I know they were sending e mails but I never got them. My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started coming in again. Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not valid. I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be happy for the moment. That's odd. I've never had a problem with this. I have quite a few forwards, and never a hitch. I've always used qmailadmin for maintaining them. I presume you're using the same? Have you ever messed manually with the .qmail file? Yes I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to them from a gmail account. In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively. I can see where if you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would be a breeze. You should be checking the smtp logs as well as the send logs. The receipt of the original email should show in the smtp log, and the forward(s) should should show in the send log. Sounds like in your case though like the smtp receipt is failing (outside senders would know nothing about your internal forwards). They would know nothing about internal forwards, but should know about rejections. I was assuming it's on the senders end since I can send to them via gmail, but that may be a faulty assumption. I would guess that your fwd name isn't being found for some odd reason, and the smtp log would show a rejection (spamdyke would list it as OTHER). What is your catchall setting? Perhaps that has something to do with it. I'll check the logs and see if there are any clues. BL, if fwds work from gmail ok, then your problem with Netflix et al is probably somewhere else, and not related to forwards. -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards
On 12/30/2011 10:37 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena would be more helpful. Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start). There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified. I am not sure we're on the same page. Brief explanation of my situation. I see now that we're not. I was talking about fwds to external addresses. Was that mentioned anywhere? ;) I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something. It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail addresses. ie. fe...@example.com craigsl...@example.com netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com I do this as well, although less frequently than I used to. Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards, and Facebook complains. I know they were sending e mails but I never got them. My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started coming in again. Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not valid. I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be happy for the moment. That's odd. I've never had a problem with this. I have quite a few forwards, and never a hitch. I've always used qmailadmin for maintaining them. I presume you're using the same? Have you ever messed manually with the .qmail file? I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to them from a gmail account. In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively. I can see where if you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would be a breeze. You should be checking the smtp logs as well as the send logs. The receipt of the original email should show in the smtp log, and the forward(s) should should show in the send log. Sounds like in your case though like the smtp receipt is failing (outside senders would know nothing about your internal forwards). I would guess that your fwd name isn't being found for some odd reason, and the smtp log would show a rejection (spamdyke would list it as OTHER). What is your catchall setting? Perhaps that has something to do with it. BL, if fwds work from gmail ok, then your problem with Netflix et al is probably somewhere else, and not related to forwards. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards
On 12/30/2011 08:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena would be more helpful. Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start). There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified. I am not sure we're on the same page. Brief explanation of my situation. I create forwards when I use forums or have to "sign up" for something. It gives me a way of tracking who's selling or sharing my e mail addresses. ie. fe...@example.com craigsl...@example.com netf...@example.com faceb...@example.com Now, I always get my e mails from Fedex and was getting them from Netflix and then not, but Craigslist didn't play nice with my forwards, and Facebook complains. I know they were sending e mails but I never got them. My netflix ones stopped, but now miraculously have started coming in again. Facebook also complains that the e mail address is not valid. I changed it from one forward to another and they seem to be happy for the moment. I have confirmed that all of these forwards work by sending an e mail to them from a gmail account. In my situation I cannot check the sent logs since they reside with fedex, craigslist, netflix and facebook respectively. I can see where if you were forwarding from a QMT to a QMT where troubleshooting would be a breeze. -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Problems with forwards
Saying that they're not being sent is better than "simply do not work", although a little due diligence in the troubleshooting arena would be more helpful. Let's start with the logs (always a good place to start). There should be some sort of entry in the send log. Is there something or nothing in the logs which correspond to the email that's not being sent? I would guess nothing, but these things need to be verified. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 12/29/2011 10:50 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: How can we provide more information when we aren't sending the e mails that are not delivered? We aren't sending our forwards. On 12/29/2011 09:13 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 12/29/2011 08:16 PM, Casey Price wrote: One of our users has been having difficulty with a couple of forwards they are trying to create. They simply do not work. I'm wondering if anyone else has had trouble with forwarding to a domain that has a dash "-" in the domain name after the at "@" sign? i.e.; verizonw_alerts ==> vzwm...@some-where.domain.com All of the other forwards seem to work, just not that this sub-domain that is hosted elsewhere on a non-QMT platform. Keep in mind this is an old Solaris box running an older version of vpopmail and qmailadmin, etc. Are the forwards storage in the SQL DB? If not, where the heck are they?!? Thanks!! -- "simply do not work" isn't very descriptive. :( Thanks for noting though that this isn't a QMT host. What are you seeing in the send log that corresponds to the forwards? Can you send directly to the fwd address from the account that's trying to fwd there? Forwards are stored in the database with QMT. I'm not positive, but I don't think this has always been the case. In 'native' qmail, forwards are handled by the .qmail file. See "man dot-qmail" and "man forward". Older versions of vpopmail may have different ways of handling forwards. I would try to check the compile options used to build the version you're running. Which is what by the way? You haven't given us much to go on Casey, but I hope this helps. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com