[qmailtoaster] Re: DomainKeys signout FAILED - DKIM signout OK - need togetthem both
On 06/15/2012 08:44 PM, F. Mendez wrote: Because a lot of mail server this days still use and checks for domainkeys and not only dkim. In fact, even BIG isp checks for both. That's a pretty broad claim. I'd like to see documentation supporting this. On the inbound side, it might make sense to check for either. That's different from checking for both though. On the outbound side, it makes little sense to sign messages with both. BL is that inbound and outbound should be addressed separately. Yahoo might be last lone DK holdout (given they developed it), so outbound messages going to yahoo should perhaps be signed with DK, and all others signed with DKIM. I would not recommend this though. I believe that yahoo will eventually need to handle DKIM so long as the majority are using it. We need to have and offer 100% all possible checks for domain certification email traffic. I respectfully disagree. See http://email-museum.com/2008/03/12/dkim-vs-domainkeys-confusion/ for instance. This was written 4 years ago. Eventually DKIM is expected to supersede DK, and DK will be obsolete. If DK isn't deprecated already, it should be (imo). At the rate we're going, by the time we would implement DK successfully, I expect it will be all but obsolete. If someone comes up with a working DK check for incoming messages on QMT, I'm more than happy to include it. I don't see it as a high priority though. For outbound messages, I see no need for DK signing providing that DKIM is implemented. If DK is desired, I think it should be only for certain destinations, such as yahoo. Again, this is a very low priority in my mind, as it's a problem which I expect will solve itself with time. -- -Eric 'shubes' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Qmailtoaster update
Hi, I'm having trouble running the updates: Building qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 ... error: /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.rpm cannot be installed Installing /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.rpm end of log messages qtp-build-rpms - see /mnt/qtp-sandbox/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/log/build-recent.log for more details Build failed, Exiting. My current versions: qtp-ami-up2date New Qmail-Toaster Packages Available: available: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 (installed: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20) available: clamav-toaster-0.97.4-1.4.0 (installed: clamav-toaster-0.97.3-1.3.44)
[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmailtoaster update
On 06/16/2012 07:31 AM, Peter Tan wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble running the updates: Building qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 ... error: /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.rpm cannot be installed Installing /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.rpm end of log messages qtp-build-rpms - see /mnt/qtp-sandbox/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/log/build-recent.log for more details Build failed, Exiting. My current versions: qtp-ami-up2date New Qmail-Toaster Packages Available: available: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 (installed: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20) available: clamav-toaster-0.97.4-1.4.0 (installed: clamav-toaster-0.97.3-1.3.44) Looks like your downloaded file is bad. # rm /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.rpm then try again. FWIW, we're beginning work on implementing integrity checks of downloads so recovery of this sort of thing will be automatic. In the meantime, thanks for bearing with us. -- -Eric 'shubes' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmailtoaster update
Thanks Eric, it worked. I'd to remove the clam rpm too for it to work. On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 06/16/2012 07:31 AM, Peter Tan wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble running the updates: Building qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 ... error: /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/**qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.**rpm cannot be installed Installing /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/**qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.** rpm end of log messages qtp-build-rpms - see /mnt/qtp-sandbox/usr/src/qtp-**upgrade/log/build-recent.log for more details Build failed, Exiting. My current versions: qtp-ami-up2date New Qmail-Toaster Packages Available: available: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22 (installed: qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20) available: clamav-toaster-0.97.4-1.4.0 (installed: clamav-toaster-0.97.3-1.3.44) Looks like your downloaded file is bad. # rm /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/**qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.22.src.**rpm then try again. FWIW, we're beginning work on implementing integrity checks of downloads so recovery of this sort of thing will be automatic. In the meantime, thanks for bearing with us. -- -Eric 'shubes' --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscribe@**qmailtoaster.comqmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-help@**qmailtoaster.comqmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: DomainKeys signout FAILED - DKIM signout OK - need togetthem both
All ISP, EPS check for both but are not required to have both. SPF+DKIM is more than enough. In case you have require 100% deliverability, you better enroll on Return Path's Email Certification Program or Spamhaus whitelist. Ernesto Vargas-Azofeifa Senior Web Developer IT Manager Macromedia Certified Cold Fusion Web Developer LAMP stack expert. From: F. Mendez fmende...@terra.com To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: DomainKeys signout FAILED - DKIM signout OK - need togetthem both Because a lot of mail server this days still use and checks for domainkeys and not only dkim. In fact, even BIG isp checks for both. We need to have and offer 100% all possible checks for domain certification email traffic. Regards. -Mensaje original- From: Eric Shubert Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 7:44 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: DomainKeys signout FAILED - DKIM signout OK - need togetthem both The stock domainkeys (qmail-dk) process has never worked 100%. I expect that we'll be removing that implementation at some point in the future. DKIM will be included in the stock QMT at some point, but I can't say when. I'm not optimistic that a working DK will ever be included. Why would anyone want DK if they have a working DKIM implementation? -- -Eric 'shubes' On 06/15/2012 05:23 PM, F. Mendez wrote: Hello Ernesto, did you EVER had DomainKeys working? I mean, did you test it before installing changes for DKIM? Because if you had it working before installing DKIM, this means that the file change on DKIM setup is the one that is not signing. Hopefully some of the creators of QMT may arise and help us. Regards. -Mensaje original- From: Ernesto Vargas Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 9:47 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Cc: F. Mendez Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] DomainKeys signout FAILED - DKIM signout OK - need to getthem both SPF its just DNS entries nothing to do with QmailToaster. Yes I am on the same situation where DomainKeys are not been sign but DKIM are, but SPF+DKIM is more than enough for me agains Google, Hotmail and Yahoo. Saludos, Ernesto Vargas On 06/15/2012 01:21 AM, F. Mendez wrote: Hello ppl. I am getting my self more and more into QMT and learning it every day. Cool solution. Today I were trying to get DomainKeys and DKIM both sign out. I need this, the reason, don't matter. I got first DomainKeys setup following the WIKI QMT pages. But I didn't test it. Then I went with DKIM and also followed what WIKI info showed. After sending a simple mail, I got DKIM signout working but no signout of DomainKeys. Yes I have done ALL steps for each, no error aparently showed. What Im suspecting is that when I got dkim installed, the tutorial also showed that a BIN file had to be replaced. Would that BIN version have DKIM only support and no DomainKeys? Also SPF is not working too. I need help here friends. Thanks. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
