Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-04-01 Thread Eric Broch

Something like this:

http://tmda.net

?

On 4/1/2022 11:18 AM, Remo Mattei wrote:

Hello Eric,
That could be an option which if we could integrate that into Roundcube as a 
module, or other web UI then that could be a cool solution. Long time ago, I 
used qmail configured with TMDA but that project died long ago.

Remo


On Apr 1, 2022, at 04:50, Eric Broch  wrote:

Is this what you're looking for?

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-make-a-throwaway-email-account

On 3/27/2022 9:51 AM, Remo wrote:

Hi guys
I kind of like the new option about iCloud hide my email how could we do it 
with qmail

Thanks.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-04-01 Thread Remo Mattei
Hello Eric, 
That could be an option which if we could integrate that into Roundcube as a 
module, or other web UI then that could be a cool solution. Long time ago, I 
used qmail configured with TMDA but that project died long ago. 

Remo 

> On Apr 1, 2022, at 04:50, Eric Broch  wrote:
> 
> Is this what you're looking for?
> 
> https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-make-a-throwaway-email-account
> 
> On 3/27/2022 9:51 AM, Remo wrote:
>> Hi guys
>> I kind of like the new option about iCloud hide my email how could we do it 
>> with qmail
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-04-01 Thread Eric Broch

Is this what you're looking for?

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-make-a-throwaway-email-account

On 3/27/2022 9:51 AM, Remo wrote:

Hi guys
I kind of like the new option about iCloud hide my email how could we do it 
with qmail

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Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-03-28 Thread Angus McIntyre
Eric Broch wrote on 3/27/22 7:32 PM:
> Can you explain what features you'd like to see...maybe why. I don't
> have my mind around the "why" of it.

The "why" of services like Apple's Hide my Email or disposable email
address systems like Sneakemail or the homebrew systems that I described
in my last message is to give you 'throwaway' addresses that you can
hand out to sites that you don't trust with your real address.

> Would it be like an alias? Would mail only be sent to the account? Would
> there be any credentials for logging in?
I think it would function like an alias, in the sense that anything sent
to one of the throwaways gets automatically forwarded to a real user's
mailbox.

Apple's Hide my Email (as I understand it) is integrated at the OS
level: whenever you're prompted to provide an email address, you have
the option to either auto-fill your real address, or autofill a
newly-generated throwaway that consists of a random character string.

Obviously, we can't get the same level of integration (unless Apple were
to open up APIs for 'address providers'). You can however take the
'prefixed address' approach that I described in my earlier message and
let users invent their own throwaways.

That's relatively easy to do, because you just tell users that they can
enter anything they like beginning with some prefix that is unique to
them; the prefix, and the alias that routes mails using that prefix, is
set up beforehand.

Doing a truly random address like Apple's Hide my Email addresses is
harder, because you need to generate the new address and then add it to
your database as an alias.

In essence, you'd need a web app that:

   1. Let users log in (probably with their qmail credentials)
   2. Generated a new disposable address on demand.
   3. Recorded that new address as an alias for their real address

It wouldn't be particularly hard to write, but it is more complex than a
solution based on prefixed addresses.

Angus


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Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-03-27 Thread Eric Broch
Can you explain what features you'd like to see...maybe why. I don't 
have my mind around the "why" of it.


Would it be like an alias? Would mail only be sent to the account? Would 
there be any credentials for logging in?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-03-27 Thread Angus McIntyre
Remo wrote on 3/27/22 11:51 AM:
> I kind of like the new option about iCloud hide my email how could we do it 
> with qmail 
I don't know how you'd produce the precise features of "hide my email",
but it's pretty easy to set up a disposable email address system (like
the old Sneakemail) with qmail. I have a domain that I use for this, so
when I need a new address I just use an address in the format:

   myprefix-some...@mydomain.com

On my old system, I had a .qmail-default file that piped any mail for
that domain through a Perl script that I wrote. The Perl script was
based on a library called MailAudit, which provided various mail
processing tools. The script was a single file, but it let me do things
like route addresses with different prefixes to different users, or
compare the 'sometag' tag against instructions in the database that said
how to process the message: accept it, delete it, mark it as spam, or
accept it if the sender matched a particular pattern, delete it or flag
it otherwise.

MailAudit seems to be unmaintained now, so for my new server I went with
a simpler approach. qmail lets you create .qmail files of the form:

.qmail-myprefix-default

which will handle mail addressed to:

myprefix-myaddre...@mydomain.com
myprefix-myaddre...@mydomain.com

etc.

In my case, I pipe the incoming mail through maildrop, but the maildrop
rules I have currently don't do much more than routing and logging. When
I get more time, I'll write tools to restore some of the conditional
logic that I had in the previous system.

You don't need maildrop, though: just assigning a prefix to each user
who needs to be able to create throwaways and then setting up
appropriate .qmail-[someprefix]-default files for each one would
probably be sufficient.

Note that '.qmail-myprefix-default' can be overridden. So if you had
started using 'myprefix-myb...@mydomain.com', and a spammer got hold of
that address, you'd just add a .qmail file named:

.qmail-myprefix-mybank

and route everything sent to that to Junk (and, of course, you'd update
your profile with your bank so that they would send messages to
'myprefix-mybank2...@mydomain.com' instead).

Angus




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[qmailtoaster] About hide my email

2022-03-27 Thread Remo
Hi guys 
I kind of like the new option about iCloud hide my email how could we do it 
with qmail 

Thanks. 

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