RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
Natalio, thanks for the pointers. Your method is the one I used. On the Exchange side this is what I did : Added an internal domain (domain.local) for a secondary email address. Added the email domain on Exchange as an Internal Relay and configured an SMTP Connector to the Qmail server. This way Exchange 2010 will forward any email it receives that it does not have a mailbox for to the Qmailtoaster server. One fun fact I found out the hard way, do not remove mailboxes in Exchange! This will delete AD accounts with it. That is what I get for testing in a production environment. From: Natalio Gatti [mailto:nga...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:47 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.netmailto:e...@shubes.net wrote: On 02/06/2012 12:03 PM, John Raley wrote: How did you manage this? I have a UTM device in front of both servers. It does call-out to verify the account exists. I am guessing when the Qmail server says the account doesn't exist, it move to the next email server. Just some ideas: 1) Create a second domain in exchange, as an alias domain. Every exchange user will have two addresses (user@domain and user@secondarydomain). 2) Create an smtproute in your qmail box to forward all secondarydomain to your exchange box 3) Create forwards for the accounts you already have migrated, so as to forward the migrated user mail to the secondary domain. This could solve one problem. All users in the qmail box can send mails to users in exchange box. Maybe you could do something similar to the reverse problem. I do not know if you are going to need a SMTP Connector in your exhchange box. Salutti, Natalio.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
Glad to see that it helped. I used that procedure in a similar migration. It is not the best method, but it allowed me to migrate one account at a time. It was an exchange 2003, wich includes the SMTP Connector. I thought that exchange 2010 did not include one. Best of lucks in the microsoft world... On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:35 PM, John Raley j...@fmcfinance.net wrote: Natalio, thanks for the pointers. Your method is the one I used. On the Exchange side this is what I did : Added an internal domain (domain.local) for a secondary email address. Added the email domain on Exchange as an Internal Relay and configured an SMTP Connector to the Qmail server. This way Exchange 2010 will forward any email it receives that it does not have a mailbox for to the Qmailtoaster server. ** ** One fun fact I found out the hard way, do not remove mailboxes in Exchange! This will delete AD accounts with it. That is what I get for testing in a production environment. ** ** *From:* Natalio Gatti [mailto:nga...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 2:47 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server ** ** ** ** On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 02/06/2012 12:03 PM, John Raley wrote: How did you manage this? I have a UTM device in front of both servers. It does call-out to verify the account exists. I am guessing when the Qmail server says the account doesn't exist, it move to the next email server. ** ** Just some ideas: 1) Create a second domain in exchange, as an alias domain. Every exchange user will have two addresses (user@domain and user@secondarydomain). 2) Create an smtproute in your qmail box to forward all secondarydomain to your exchange box 3) Create forwards for the accounts you already have migrated, so as to forward the migrated user mail to the secondary domain. ** ** This could solve one problem. All users in the qmail box can send mails to users in exchange box. Maybe you could do something similar to the reverse problem. I do not know if you are going to need a SMTP Connector in your exhchange box. ** ** Salutti, ** ** Natalio.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
On 02/06/2012 10:21 AM, John Raley wrote: One of my clients is moving from a Qmailtoaster server (setup by me) to Exchange 2010 and has tasked me to perform the migration for them. The problem I am having is that I have to manually change their Outlook settings in order to switch them to their Exchange accounts. I need to move the users over in groups and only a few at a time. I have tried deleting their accounts on the Qmail server and their new emails show up on their Exchange account. How did you manage this? The problem I have is that users still on the Qmail server cannot send email to users that have already moved to the Exchange server and vice versa. Thoughts or suggestions on how to accomplish this? I don't know of a way for a single domain to be split across two servers. Other than creating a subdomain to act as a bridge between the two servers (which I'm not entirely sure how that would work), I think your best approach is probably to get all the accounts over to Exchange asap. You have my sympathies. Just quickly thinking here; Setup the Exchange before moving anyone over and add the Exchange account to the user's outlook so they have 2 accounts in there. You can then set Exchange to store all incoming mails to the Exchange account even if they come in from QMT. Then once you have everyone in the Exchange, flip the MX so one day they get mail from QMT and the next they get it from Exchange. Then go through and move the mail from one acct. to the other within Outlook and delete the QMT account from outlook. Of course this only works if you have few enough machines to do this sort of sneaker net game.
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
If your using Exchange 2007, you can use the transporter ive done this several times, it goes smoothly without having to deal with going to each client. http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=1329 -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:50 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server On 02/06/2012 10:21 AM, John Raley wrote: One of my clients is moving from a Qmailtoaster server (setup by me) to Exchange 2010 and has tasked me to perform the migration for them. The problem I am having is that I have to manually change their Outlook settings in order to switch them to their Exchange accounts. I need to move the users over in groups and only a few at a time. I have tried deleting their accounts on the Qmail server and their new emails show up on their Exchange account. How did you manage this? The problem I have is that users still on the Qmail server cannot send email to users that have already moved to the Exchange server and vice versa. Thoughts or suggestions on how to accomplish this? I don't know of a way for a single domain to be split across two servers. Other than creating a subdomain to act as a bridge between the two servers (which I'm not entirely sure how that would work), I think your best approach is probably to get all the accounts over to Exchange asap. You have my sympathies. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
Monday, February 06, 2012 11:50 AM Eric Shubert wrote: On 02/06/2012 10:21 AM, John Raley wrote: One of my clients is moving from a Qmailtoaster server (setup by me) to Exchange 2010 and has tasked me to perform the migration for them. The problem I am having is that I have to manually change their Outlook settings in order to switch them to their Exchange accounts. I need to move the users over in groups and only a few at a time. I have tried deleting their accounts on the Qmail server and their new emails show up on their Exchange account. How did you manage this? I have a UTM device in front of both servers. It does call-out to verify the account exists. I am guessing when the Qmail server says the account doesn't exist, it move to the next email server. The problem I have is that users still on the Qmail server cannot send email to users that have already moved to the Exchange server and vice versa. Thoughts or suggestions on how to accomplish this? I don't know of a way for a single domain to be split across two servers. Other than creating a subdomain to act as a bridge between the two servers (which I'm not entirely sure how that would work), I think your best approach is probably to get all the accounts over to Exchange asap. You have my sympathies. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
Monday, February 06, 2012 12:34 PM Domnick Eger wrote: If your using Exchange 2007, you can use the transporter ive done this several times, it goes smoothly without having to deal with going to each client. http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=1329 -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:50 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server On 02/06/2012 10:21 AM, John Raley wrote: One of my clients is moving from a Qmailtoaster server (setup by me) to Exchange 2010 and has tasked me to perform the migration for them. The problem I am having is that I have to manually change their Outlook settings in order to switch them to their Exchange accounts. I need to move the users over in groups and only a few at a time. I have tried deleting their accounts on the Qmail server and their new emails show up on their Exchange account. How did you manage this? The problem I have is that users still on the Qmail server cannot send email to users that have already moved to the Exchange server and vice versa. Thoughts or suggestions on how to accomplish this? I don't know of a way for a single domain to be split across two servers. Other than creating a subdomain to act as a bridge between the two servers (which I'm not entirely sure how that would work), I think your best approach is probably to get all the accounts over to Exchange asap. You have my sympathies. -- -Eric 'shubes' Unfortunately it is Exchange 2010 and I do not believe Transporter Suite works on 2010. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: On 02/06/2012 12:03 PM, John Raley wrote: How did you manage this? I have a UTM device in front of both servers. It does call-out to verify the account exists. I am guessing when the Qmail server says the account doesn't exist, it move to the next email server. Just some ideas: 1) Create a second domain in exchange, as an alias domain. Every exchange user will have two addresses (user@domain and user@secondarydomain). 2) Create an smtproute in your qmail box to forward all secondarydomain to your exchange box 3) Create forwards for the accounts you already have migrated, so as to forward the migrated user mail to the secondary domain. This could solve one problem. All users in the qmail box can send mails to users in exchange box. Maybe you could do something similar to the reverse problem. I do not know if you are going to need a SMTP Connector in your exhchange box. Salutti, Natalio.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Migrating to new server
Il 06/02/2012 18:49, Eric Shubert ha scritto: On 02/06/2012 10:21 AM, John Raley wrote: One of my clients is moving from a Qmailtoaster server (setup by me) to Exchange 2010 and has tasked me to perform the migration for them. The problem I am having is that I have to manually change their Outlook settings in order to switch them to their Exchange accounts. I need to move the users over in groups and only a few at a time. I have tried deleting their accounts on the Qmail server and their new emails show up on their Exchange account. How did you manage this? The problem I have is that users still on the Qmail server cannot send email to users that have already moved to the Exchange server and vice versa. Thoughts or suggestions on how to accomplish this? I don't know of a way for a single domain to be split across two servers. Other than creating a subdomain to act as a bridge between the two servers (which I'm not entirely sure how that would work), I think your best approach is probably to get all the accounts over to Exchange asap. I think it should work if you could use two subdomains. - sub1 on qmail - sub2 on exchange alias sub1 to domain.com on qmail alias sub2 to domain.com on exchange any account moved away from qmail should still exist on qmail, with a forward - same_acco...@sub2.domain.com any account still working on qmail should have a forward on exchange - acco...@sub1.domain.com (if you can tell exchange to send mail for unkown recipients of domain to qmail you can avoid these forwards). Regards, Tonino You have my sympathies. -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
