RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
What do you mean you changed a DC to backup?  Is DNS still on it?  Is that 
where you are getting dns from?  If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS will 
be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee kbus...@northlakechristian.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

Ok, forgive me b/c I am trying to go through gmail to get this out more 
quickly 

the queue is 200+ and growing.

I believe the emails are going out very slowly.  My first post was at 10:48 AM 
and did not show up until 2:29 PM.  Thanks for the testing/ help all.

My MX should be at northlakechristian.org  207.29.217.10

DNS could be an issue but dig and nslookup seems to work... how can I test 
further?
I change one MS DC from primary to backup... but I don't think that should have 
anything to do with it.




On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kbusbee kentbus...@gmail.com wrote:
according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.



Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Kent Busbee wrote:
Ok, forgive me b/c I am trying to go through gmail to get this out 
more quickly


the queue is 200+ and growing.

I believe the emails are going out very slowly.  My first post was at 
10:48 AM and did not show up until 2:29 PM.  Thanks for the testing/ 
help all.


My MX should be at northlakechristian.org 
http://northlakechristian.org  207.29.217.10


DNS could be an issue but dig and nslookup seems to work... how can I 
test further?
I change one MS DC from primary to backup... but I don't think that 
should have anything to do with it.





On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kbusbee kentbus...@gmail.com 
mailto:kentbus...@gmail.com wrote:


according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not
blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.




It seems to be speeding up now. I got ~8 seconds before getting a HELO 
reply.

I did get this when running a DNS report on your domain though:
*WARN* 	Glue at parent nameservers 	WARNING. The parent servers (I 
checked with d0.org.afilias-nst.org.) are not providing glue for all 
your nameservers. This means that they are supplying the NS records 
(host.example.com), but not supplying the A records (192.0.2.53), which 
can cause slightly slower connections, and may cause incompatibilities 
with some non-RFC-compliant programs. This is perfectly acceptable 
behavior per the RFCs. This will usually occur if your DNS servers are 
not in the same TLD as your domain (for example, a DNS server of 
ns1.example.*org* for the domain example.*com*). In this case, you 
can speed up the connections slightly by having NS records that are in 
the same TLD as your domain.





RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Domnick Eger
That usually means Yahoo or another ISP is deferring your connection due to
reported abuse, or you have exceeded your allow connection in each session.
This is common with Yahoo, if it extend more then two days, your on there
Blacklist and have to get removed by feeling out the form on there website.
Also think about joining there feedback loop, so you can avoid these issues.
Your best bet is to find out why you got blocked and adjust your settings.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kent Busbeekbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS. 
I am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.


I am getting a lot of these in my send log:

08-19 16:28:02 delivery 1264: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMT
P_connection._(#4.4.1)/


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Domnick Eger
Also to add, use domain-keys, reverse dns, and DKIM, if possible, this will
eliminate delays in the sending of mail.

-Original Message-
From: Domnick Eger [mailto:de...@cobercafe.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:55 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

That usually means Yahoo or another ISP is deferring your connection due to
reported abuse, or you have exceeded your allow connection in each session.
This is common with Yahoo, if it extend more then two days, your on there
Blacklist and have to get removed by feeling out the form on there website.
Also think about joining there feedback loop, so you can avoid these issues.
Your best bet is to find out why you got blocked and adjust your settings.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kent Busbeekbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS. 
I am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.


I am getting a lot of these in my send log:

08-19 16:28:02 delivery 1264: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMT
P_connection._(#4.4.1)/


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem then.
The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.  It's
the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.  I
was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
(DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for lookups
or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I
am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
random web sites and they are resolved fine.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
[r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
nameserver 192.168.1.5
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.168.1.254
nameserver 207.29.223.56
nameserver 207.29.223.58
[r...@mail ~]#

192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

I don't think dns is the problem

It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
been hacked?  What can I do about it?

Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
I am now using my gmail account to get through.

Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

Not a good day for me!

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:
 OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem then.
 The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.  It's
 the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.  I
 was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

 Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
 (DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for lookups
 or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
 efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I
 am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
 What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
 where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
 will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.

 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
OK...

My queue is now down to 0.
I am writing from my server.  Let's hope this goes through.  What I need
to do is figure out what caused:

a) the server to eat all the bandwidth of our T1
b) what caused the queue to get so full and take so long to get out.



See response above; Kent Busbee wrote:
 [r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
 search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
 nameserver 192.168.1.5
 nameserver 127.0.0.1
 nameserver 192.168.1.254
 nameserver 207.29.223.56
 nameserver 207.29.223.58
 [r...@mail ~]#

 192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

 I don't think dns is the problem

 It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
 server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
 believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
 after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
 been hacked?  What can I do about it?

 Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
 queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
 email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
 I am now using my gmail account to get through.

 Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

 Not a good day for me!

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:
 OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem
 then.
 The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.
  It's
 the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.
  I
 was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

 Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
 (DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for
 lookups
 or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
 efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my
 DNS.  I
 am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
 What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
 where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then
 DNS
 will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.



Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

I'm on it. I'll let Kent report back the results of our findings.

Kent Busbee wrote:

OK...

My queue is now down to 0.
I am writing from my server.  Let's hope this goes through.  What I need
to do is figure out what caused:

a) the server to eat all the bandwidth of our T1
b) what caused the queue to get so full and take so long to get out.



See response above; Kent Busbee wrote:

[r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
nameserver 192.168.1.5
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.168.1.254
nameserver 207.29.223.56
nameserver 207.29.223.58
[r...@mail ~]#

192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

I don't think dns is the problem

It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
been hacked?  What can I do about it?

Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
I am now using my gmail account to get through.

Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

Not a good day for me!

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:

OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem
then.
The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.
 It's
the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.
 I
was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
(DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for
lookups
or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more

efficiently.

DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my
DNS.  I

am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and

growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
What should I check?

Phil Wrote:


What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that

where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then
DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.


Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
random web sites and they are resolved fine.




Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School




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