Re: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side

2007-01-21 Thread Bill_J
I've felt that pain when I had a kidney stone and when I had a bad UTI.

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
  Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
  arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
  skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body
  thoroughly used up, totally worn out, hair on fire and screaming WOO
  HOO!  What a ride!
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  Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:49 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side


   Hey everyone, i've been experiencing a pain on my lower left side that i 
havn't felt in the past, just curious if anyone else has felt sharp pain there, 
i'm currently taking Cipro for uti and did blood and urine test yesterday, and 
had ultrasound my urologist ultrasound looked good still waiting on blood work 
and urine test, been on cipro for a week he just put me on another week, they 
don't act like I should be concerned  but my side has never hurt like this 
before,any info would be much appreciated. Thank you Ray c-5 c-6 almost 6yrs 
post

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[QUAD-L] Helping Hands Monkey Program

2007-01-21 Thread wheelchair
Hello All!
 
I thought I'd wait until everyone chimed in regarding, what they thought of  
the monkey program and as it may pertain to them, based on what they heard.  
Here's the official skinny on the subject and you are welcome to visit helping  
hands website for the facts.
 
_HelpingHands_ (http://www.helpinghandsmonkeys.org/) monkeys.org   
 
or 
_www.helpinghandsmonkeys.org_ (http://www.helpinghandsmonkeys.org)   
 
 
Once you know the facts.
Best Wishes
W


[QUAD-L] Fw: Adoption

2007-01-21 Thread Dan
Hey Guys,

I got this off another list. Any suggestions for her?

Dan V


At 10:38 PM 1/19/2007 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Question:  You stated that you testified in the state legislature, how does 
one go about that?  I am an adoptive parent and have adopted 2 ventilator 
dependent children (did not have them both at home at the same time).  One of 
them came from an institution in California.  It took us two years to get him 
out of the institution.  The institution did not want to let him go.  We were 
very fortunate that he had a great lawyer and judge or he would still be 
living there.  He was 3 1/2 when we brought him home and had never been 
outside the institution except to go to dr/hospital.  Now he is 7, in a 
regular kindergarten class.  Runs in and out all day (in his great electric 
chair).  He is doing great.  

As an advocate for waiting adoptive children I am very concerned about 
medically fragile children living in institutions.  I am talking about the 
kids that are available for adoption.  The institutions have alot of authority 
about wether a child can leave or not.  For example, we have been fighting New 
York for 5 years trying to get a legally free now 13 year old boy out of an 
institution.  The institution will not allow him to leave.  I have written 
everyboby I can think of, including Hillary Clinton and have gotten nowhere.  
Does anyone have any ideas on where to advocate for these precious children?  
Also, I would like to write my masters thesis on this issue but have been 
having an awful time getting statistics on numbers of children living in 
institutions throughout the country.  My best guess is thousands, and most of 
these children will live their entire life in an institution.  We are putting 
babies in institutions.  No matter how good an institution is,  I do not 
believe it is the answer if there are other options.  
If anyone here has any ideas on how to collect data regarding numbers I would 
love to hear from you.  Also, if anyone has any ideas on who to contact that 
may be interested in this issue I am willing to try talking/writing to anyone.

Thanks,
Nora in Michigan 


[QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread Dan Tessiatore
  I have been using a Hoyer lift to get into my chair with a sling that has a 
cut out for the behind. I am having trouble getting back far enough in the 
chair. Any suggestions for getting back far enough into my chair with the sling 
and Hoyer lift? I have tried adjusting the chains/straps to the sling but it 
hasn't helped a great deal. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan T.


Re: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread ~LittleQuad~
if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, have 
someone pull butt back as far as you want.
  i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL

Dan Tessiatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a Hoyer lift to get into my chair with a sling that has a 
cut out for the behind. I am having trouble getting back far enough in the 
chair. Any suggestions for getting back far enough into my chair with the sling 
and Hoyer lift? I have tried adjusting the chains/straps to the sling but it 
hasn't helped a great deal. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan T.



Re: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side

2007-01-21 Thread t crook
Do you good bowel movements?

I started experiencing that sort of pain about 9 yrs. ago. My doctor told me 
not to worry about it either; he told me it was irritable bowel and 
constipation. 

Tim c5-c6/18 yrs. post
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Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side


 Hey everyone, i've been experiencing a pain on my lower left side that i 
havn't felt in the past, just curious if anyone else has felt sharp pain there, 
i'm currently taking Cipro for uti and did blood and urine test yesterday, and 
had ultrasound my urologist ultrasound looked good still waiting on blood work 
and urine test, been on cipro for a week he just put me on another week, they 
don't act like I should be concerned  but my side has never hurt like this 
before,any info would be much appreciated. Thank you Ray c-5 c-6 almost 6yrs 
post


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Re: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side

2007-01-21 Thread ~LittleQuad~
arre you constitpated? maybe your liver is in pain? i have major lower pain as 
my stomach doesn't work...i'm having it checked every 4-6 months to keep my 
mind at ease.

Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I've felt that pain when I had a 
kidney stone and when I had a bad UTI.
   
  Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
  Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
  arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
  skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body
  thoroughly used up, totally worn out, hair on fire and screaming WOO
  HOO!  What a ride!
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  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:49 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain on lower left side
  

   Hey everyone, i've been experiencing a pain on my lower left side that i 
havn't felt in the past, just curious if anyone else has felt sharp pain there, 
i'm currently taking Cipro for uti and did blood and urine test yesterday, and 
had ultrasound my urologist ultrasound looked good still waiting on blood work 
and urine test, been on cipro for a week he just put me on another week, they 
don't act like I should be concerned  but my side has never hurt like this 
before,any info would be much appreciated. Thank you Ray c-5 c-6 almost 6yrs 
post

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[QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread wheelchair
 
Hiya Amy,
Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back  of the 
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees,  have 
someone pull butt back as far as you want.
i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees  LOL







[QUAD-L] Re: Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread ~LittleQuad~
no no noi will whoop anyone who pulls on my pants that direction!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hiya Amy,
  Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back of the 
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
  W
   
   
   
  In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, 
have someone pull butt back as far as you want.
  i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL


  
   



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2007-01-21 Thread GHenry1
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RE: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread Eric W Rudd
That's how I've done it for years.  Then make sure they're pulled out of the
crotch.
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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Hiya Amy,
Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back of the
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, have
someone pull butt back as far as you want.
i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL


 



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2007-01-21 Thread Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 10:07:05 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

no no  noi will whoop anyone who pulls on my pants that  direction!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


LOL, not a wedgie, just a tug.  Maybe in your case, tugging on the  hips or 
using a pull sheet.
W


Re: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread Danny Hearn
 I use an overhead lift..but if your not back far enough in chair, just 
bend over chest over knees , make sure feet are on footrests.then have 
someone give a quick push back on both knees, you will go all the way back  
with ease.   Dan

~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:if you have assistance- once in 
chair lean over to have chest on knees, have someone pull butt back as far as 
you want.
  i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL

Dan Tessiatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been using a Hoyer lift to get into my chair with a sling that has a 
cut out for the behind. I am having trouble getting back far enough in the 
chair. Any suggestions for getting back far enough into my chair with the sling 
and Hoyer lift? I have tried adjusting the chains/straps to the sling but it 
hasn't helped a great deal. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan T.




[QUAD-L] RE: [Spinalcordinjury] vitamins and a regime for wound care

2007-01-21 Thread poajoan
Thank you for the comments on the Medicare program with regards to the pay
back by Medicare to a personal user.  I am going through a company named
Hill-Ron, which is the only distributor of the Clinitron bed I believe.
While Medicare has paid for the use of the Clinitron bed in hospitals, it
has evidently not been reliable about paying for the Clinitron home use bed.
Hill-Ron has been declining the use of the Clinitron bed for Medicare
patients for the last couple of years. However, they have started on the
East Coast and are moving westerly to try and determine if Medicare will
continue to pay for the Clinitron bed in home. My representative assures me
that there is a 99% chance that I will get all of my money back within the
next few months. Much as I hate to pay out a whole bunch like this, if it
means I can cure my wounds at home, rather than by surgery and a six to
eight weeks day in a hospital, I would rather do that.

 

Let's face it, life is a gamble and money is just money, and I am fortunate
enough to be able to pay for this if necessary. I had definitely earmarked
this money for something else, but my health is worth much more.

 

Joan C/4 1990.

 

 

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RE: [QUAD-L] PT crusiers

2007-01-21 Thread Greg
Looks like there a bit less head room in the PT.

I'm leaning towards the Honda Element, but there are a lot of questions
first.

Will I pass the driving test is number 1.

Plus, I want a local dealer. And whether or not I can get help paying for
the equipment.

Thanks,

Greg



[QUAD-L] Pressure mapping

2007-01-21 Thread poajoan
I have followed this thread on pressure mapping for a while, and I am very
interested in finding a place that does pressure mapping. I bought a new
seat cushion, which was recommended by Santa Clara medical center, a J2 deep
contour, which I really liked for the stabilizing, but believe that it has
contributed to the groin wound. I am not finding a lot on pressure mapping
on the Internet, so I am going to contact Santa Clara SCI and see if there
is a pressure mapping dealer in that area. I live in Reno Nevada, and you
would think that there are plenty of wheelchair places here, but that is not
the case. I made an appointment with rehabilitation to be fitted for the new
cushion, and one of the two medical supply companies representatives met
with us. Neither one of them could say anything about the way I sit, other
than I had good posture and was not putting any pressure on the ischium. I
have never had a decubitus on the ischium, my wound in back is on the
sacrum, probably caused from bed, as I sleep on my back all the time. So I
am sandwiched front and back! I hope that pressure mapping, and then having
some expert advice on correct seating I should use will help to eliminate
any recurrence of these wounds. I realize that as I get older, my skin
becomes more fragile, and since I will be 68 shortly and 16 1/2 years
post-injury that skin breakdowns may become more the norm than not.

 

Joan C/4 1990

 



Re: [QUAD-L] My first Bladder Stone ;-(

2007-01-21 Thread delimited4
 I think the doctor inserted a tiny little hammer and a teensy little anvil, 
then banged away till he could turn on the shop vac and clean up the mess. 
I took some drug that was suppose to soften the stone before surgery and then 
he used a tool that crushed the stone and suctioned most of the debris out. I 
urinated whatever he missed. 
 
john
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] My first Bladder Stone ;-(


Are you not a candidate for sonic therapy.  They soak your butt in a tub and 
zap you with ultrasound.
Time for vinegar and honey, lol.
Best Wishes
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2007 3:14:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all, I just got home from the hospital after a day  a half stay for 
Bleeding thru my supra pubic catheter . The bleeding has pretty much slowed 
down..it comes and goes. The ER did a CT scan and said I got a bladder stone 
the size of a golf ball. I'm supposed to set an appointment with my urologist 
to get it removed. My question is this..the doctor said they will 
probably make an inscission by surgury to get it out. .  I thought most 
stones were removed by laser or a ( cystomy ) not sure of spelling. A few here 
If i recall correctly, said they even removed them thru their supra pubic hole 
site ?  Anyone know more about how they are usually took out???Dan H.
c-6   9 years post,1st time for a stone.
 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control Units (mattress)

2007-01-21 Thread delimited4
 The ultimate test, get your aid to sit test it before you get into it. Their 
butts feel when it is deflated. 
 
john
 
 
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Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Environmental Control Units (mattress)


Hi Dana,
 
I couldn't find the post about a device to tell if your cushion's air is 
leaking, but if you go to this Site it will show you how to check your ROHO 
cushion to be sure you have the correct amount of air in it for proper setting. 
 
http://www.therohogroup.com/medical/properadjust.jsp
 
Hope this helps.
 
With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
Texas, USA


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,

I'm asking if anybody on the list remembers a post from somebody telling, some 
kind of the device could buy to put on your Roho that would tell you if you 
were losing the air.  Does anyone remember that post?  I saved it and your 
favorites in a computer that is no longer with me.
 
It would be so great to have some device that would help you know, when you are 
losing air because of a leak.
 
Thanks everybody.
Dana

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Re: [QUAD-L] RE: [Spinalcordinjury] vitamins and a regime for wound care

2007-01-21 Thread Silas
True so true!  
Silas 
  - Original Message - 
  From: poajoan 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:13 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] RE: [Spinalcordinjury] vitamins and a regime for wound care


  Thank you for the comments on the Medicare program with regards to the pay 
back by Medicare to a personal user.  I am going through a company named 
Hill-Ron, which is the only distributor of the Clinitron bed I believe.  While 
Medicare has paid for the use of the Clinitron bed in hospitals, it has 
evidently not been reliable about paying for the Clinitron home use bed.  
Hill-Ron has been declining the use of the Clinitron bed for Medicare patients 
for the last couple of years. However, they have started on the East Coast and 
are moving westerly to try and determine if Medicare will continue to pay for 
the Clinitron bed in home. My representative assures me that there is a 99% 
chance that I will get all of my money back within the next few months. Much as 
I hate to pay out a whole bunch like this, if it means I can cure my wounds at 
home, rather than by surgery and a six to eight weeks day in a hospital, I 
would rather do that.

   

  Let's face it, life is a gamble and money is just money, and I am fortunate 
enough to be able to pay for this if necessary. I had definitely earmarked this 
money for something else, but my health is worth much more.

   

  Joan C/4 1990.

   

   

  .


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Re: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread Bill_J
If you have a tilt/recline chair, tilt it (don't recline it) a bit before being 
lowered into it.  It might help place you back farther in the chair.

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Tessiatore 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:43 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling


  I have been using a Hoyer lift to get into my chair with a sling that has a 
cut out for the behind. I am having trouble getting back far enough in the 
chair. Any suggestions for getting back far enough into my chair with the sling 
and Hoyer lift? I have tried adjusting the chains/straps to the sling but it 
hasn't helped a great deal. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan T.

Re: [QUAD-L] My first Bladder Stone ;-(

2007-01-21 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 3:51:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, DeLiMiTeD4  
writes:

 I think the doctor inserted a tiny little hammer and a teensy  little anvil, 
then banged away till he could turn on the shop vac and clean up  the mess. 
I took some drug that was suppose to soften the stone before surgery and  
then he used a tool that crushed the stone and suctioned most of the debris  
out. 
I urinated whatever he missed. 
 
john



Whew, with that timely news, its time to celebrate your immediate  recovery!
Pass the Vinegar and Honey!
W


RE: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread ~LittleQuad~
O-U-C-H

Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's how I've done it for years.  
Then make sure they're pulled out of the crotch.
   
   
  Eric W Rudd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling


Hiya Amy,
  Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back of the 
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
  W
   
   
   
  In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, 
have someone pull butt back as far as you want.
  i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL


  
   



RE: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread Eric W Rudd
There is no ouch to it.  1 hand above each pocket, grabbing waistband and
pull or walk each ass cheek back.
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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O-U-C-H

Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

That's how I've done it for years.  Then make sure they're pulled out of the
crotch.
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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Hiya Amy,
Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back of the
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, have
someone pull butt back as far as you want.
i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL


 




RE: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling

2007-01-21 Thread ~LittleQuad~
i meant up the crack feelingi hate wedgies...

Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  There is no ouch to it.  1 hand 
above each pocket, grabbing waistband and pull or walk each ass cheek back.
   
   
  Eric W Rudd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:28 PM
To: Eric W Rudd; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: ***Possible Spam*** RE: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling


O-U-C-H

Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   That's how I've done it for years. 
 Then make sure they're pulled out of the crotch.
   
   
  Eric W Rudd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hoyer Lift/Sling


Hiya Amy,
  Up here, its the bend and jerk.  Bend at the waist and grab the back of the 
pants and pull or jerk, lol.
  W
   
   
   
  In a message dated 1/21/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
if you have assistance- once in chair lean over to have chest on knees, 
have someone pull butt back as far as you want.
  i do it alone, unless my elbows miss the knees LOL