Re: [QUAD-L] information about mini vans versus full size and wheelchair

2009-12-04 Thread Lori Michaelson
And/or where does everyone get the $$$,$$$ to purchase these vans?
Especially those, but not limited to, those who are receiving Medicaid or
the waiver system and can only have X-number of dollars in your checking
account/savings account, etc.?

Lori

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:

   What line do you guys get in to get these vans? Am I doing something
 seriously wrong?

 Curious,
 john

  --
 *From:* Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com
 *To:* RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, November 30, 2009 12:05:35 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] information about mini vans versus full size and
 wheelchair

  I'm a c5-6 and drive from my powerchair.  I have reduced effort braking
 and steering, and mechanical hand controls [MPD.]



 My first vehicle was a full size van ['84 Ford Econoline,] with a Ricon
 lift.

 After that I got a '90 Dodge Caravan minivan with a passenger-side ramp.

 And my current vehicle is a '06 Honda Element, with a passenger-side ramp.



 All of the vehicles had dropped floor conversions to accomodate my height.

 The full-size van was great for long trips, and the minivan was great for
 short trips.

 My Honda Element is the funnest to drive, and gets the best gas mileage of
 the three.   The Honda conversion was done by Freedom Motors:
 http://www.fminow.com/?gclid=CK2l4ZGmnJwCFShRagod_FBPdg

 They also convert Scions, PT Cruisers and Toyota Siennas.



 Mobility technology has improved dramatically over the years and from
 vehicle to vehicle, but the more high-tech things become, the more difficult
 [and expensive] they are to repair or replace. The EZ Lock system seems to
 be the industry standard and is crash tested for saftey.



 With the side-entry vehicles I've learned to park 'defensively,' meaning
 park at the ends of rows or in spaces that prevent others from parking me
 in.  Still, it happens from time to time, and that's a major source of
 frustration.








-- 
Lori
Age - 45
C4/5 complete quad, nearly 30 years post
Tucson, AZ


Re: [QUAD-L] information about mini vans versus full size and wheelchair

2009-12-04 Thread Derrick
OVR will help in PA, if you are being employed.
You must buy the van and they pay for modifications.

OVR pays for education too. They paid for 4 years of education for a man from 
Jamica who was shot and paralyzed.
Not sure how he got to PA and was able to get the benefits.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: John S. ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] information about mini vans versus full size and 
wheelchair


  And/or where does everyone get the $$$,$$$ to purchase these vans?  
Especially those, but not limited to, those who are receiving Medicaid or the 
waiver system and can only have X-number of dollars in your checking 
account/savings account, etc.?

  Lori


  On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:

What line do you guys get in to get these vans? Am I doing something 
seriously wrong?

Curious,
john





From: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com
To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 12:05:35 PM

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] information about mini vans versus full size and 
wheelchair



I'm a c5-6 and drive from my powerchair.  I have reduced effort braking and 
steering, and mechanical hand controls [MPD.]



My first vehicle was a full size van ['84 Ford Econoline,] with a Ricon 
lift.

After that I got a '90 Dodge Caravan minivan with a passenger-side ramp.

And my current vehicle is a '06 Honda Element, with a passenger-side ramp.



All of the vehicles had dropped floor conversions to accomodate my height.

The full-size van was great for long trips, and the minivan was great for 
short trips.

My Honda Element is the funnest to drive, and gets the best gas mileage of 
the three.   The Honda conversion was done by Freedom Motors:  
http://www.fminow.com/?gclid=CK2l4ZGmnJwCFShRagod_FBPdg

They also convert Scions, PT Cruisers and Toyota Siennas.



Mobility technology has improved dramatically over the years and from 
vehicle to vehicle, but the more high-tech things become, the more difficult 
[and expensive] they are to repair or replace. The EZ Lock system seems to be 
the industry standard and is crash tested for saftey.  



With the side-entry vehicles I've learned to park 'defensively,' meaning 
park at the ends of rows or in spaces that prevent others from parking me in.  
Still, it happens from time to time, and that's a major source of frustration.










  -- 
  Lori 
  Age - 45
  C4/5 complete quad, nearly 30 years post
  Tucson, AZ


[QUAD-L] vans and voc rehab

2009-12-04 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
Vocational rehab will help modify a van but you have to go through an interview 
process and testing. If they get the impression you arent dedic cated to 
schooling and finding a job they wont help. So my advice to anyone going to Voc 
rehab to get helphave you plan all layed out for them and mention the 
van last. They are not about adapting vans to cruise to the mallthey are 
about employment. If getting you employed requires a van modification they may 
help. I wish someone would of told me this info b4 I went.
 
Ron c7


Re: [QUAD-L] vans and voc rehab

2009-12-04 Thread Don Price
My first vehicle, a full-size van, was purchased with funds raised through a 
charity dance my church held for me after my accident.  We had 5 bands, food, 
raffles--all donated!  The whole town turned out, and raised close to $20 
grand.  It was amazing!  Just one of the advantages of living in a small town.  
VR did not help.

My second vehicle, a Dodge Caravan Minivan, I got for a steal.  The own, a 
quad, died and his family wanted to sell it to someone who could use it.  The 
vehicle fit me so well I barely had to adjust the mirrors!  Paid $2,500 cash 
[with help from parents.]  It lasted 13 years, I believe.  Toward the end I was 
throwing a lot of repair money into it.  Never did get the A.C. to work 
properly [a BIG deal in Arizona!]

I financed my current vehicle, a Honda Element.  Bought it used through a buddy 
that works at an auto dealership.  Because I am employed, and need 
transportation to remain so, Vocational Rehabilitation [VR] paid for the 
conversion.  

Due to the economy many states have frozen or cut their VR funding.  Still, I 
suggest giving VR a try, you just never know.

Don,

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2009-12-04 Thread Derrick

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