Re: [QUAD-L] Flat free tires, Front/Mid/Rear wheel drive
Most tires and wheels for mobility devices are made in China. Most electric wheelchairs and scooters are made in China, by Chinese using parts and components made in China, also by Chinese. Primo, is one of the biggies in China, but there are several. I don't see Goodyear, Goodrich or Gooday getting involved with adaptive mobility tires in the near or far future. What a shame, eh? Best Wishes In a message dated 10/14/2010 11:27:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, aa999...@yahoo.com writes: My biggest problems with my flat free tires that the inserts are not holding up to over 10 miles daily road trips. But I don't want to worry about flat tires with tubes and my biggest problems the materials for tires are made of only lasts me three or four months for my main drive tires! I have worn them out to the point where they are spliting into two pieces. I can't see why Goodyear tires to make something for wheelchairs and some custom rims by dub? - Original Message From: t...@toddc5quad.com t...@toddc5quad.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 6:32:09 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Flat free tires, Front/Mid/Rear wheel drive I have used flat free tires on two different Invacare Storm, Rear Wheel Drive Wheelchairs for over 15 years. During evaluation for both chairs I could not tell any noticeable ride difference between the flat free tires and the tires with air. Something like that usually happens when you're in a hurry to get someplace or already late for something. If I have flat tires that makes one more thing I have to depend on someone else to do and don't we all want to be more independant. During my last Wheelchair evaluation I thought the mid Wheel drive Wheelchairs had a much rougher ride than the Rear or Front Wheel drive Wheelchairs. Plus I heard from many mid wheel drive wheelchair users that if you wanted to go on the grass, dirt or gravel you didn't want a mid Wheel drive Wheelchair. If you have a lockdown for driving it makes them even worse they said. I was told Invacare was even switching some mid Wheel drive to Rear Wheel drive for several people because of problems with ground Clearance they had after getting home with the mid Wheel drive Wheelchairs. I can see in some cases where mid/front Wheel drive would be better but in my house and van the Rear wheel drive works better and the others don't work very good. I know because I have tried both. Just my 2¢ Todd
Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps
Please review the ANSI Codes regarding ramps as it is what most jurisdictions follow and will be a good guideline for the contractorthat will be building it for you. No material is impervious to the elements. Talk with your local Center for Independent Living for ideas, contractors, etc. --- On Thu, 10/14/10, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote: From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps To: t...@toddc5quad.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:20 PM much depends on your climate, environment and capital. Room is also an important issue. Each material has its plus and minuses. Finding someone to purchase the raw materials, perform the install and do the job right is all part of Doing it Right. How long will your ramp have to be or required Best Wishes In a message dated 10/14/2010 4:43:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@toddc5quad.com writes: Hi everyone, I need to install a new ramp, it can be temporary or permanent. I'm trying to decide between Cement, Wood or deck type material or Expanded metal. I was thinking snow and rain would fall through the expanded metal so it wouldn't require as much snow shoveling as the others. But would it have good traction when covered with frost, fresh snow or wet from rain? I have a cement ramp and it doesn't seem to have any issues unless the snow builds up and gets packed down before it gets shoveled off. I would think a wood or decking material would be similar to the cement. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Todd
[QUAD-L] Ramps
A ramp can be expensive. All ramps are expensive, so planning is most important. Is your family or friends doing the work for you or will the job be contracted? Until that is determined, it is difficult to offer you better and more credible advice. Will it be a straight run or have curves and bends? Single level or dual level? Best Wishes In a message dated 10/15/2010 8:24:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tecn...@sbcglobal.net writes: Please review the ANSI Codes regarding ramps as it is what most jurisdictions follow and will be a good guideline for the contractorthat will be building it for you. No material is impervious to the elements. Talk with your local Center for Independent Living for ideas, contractors, etc. --- On Thu, 10/14/10, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote: From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps To: t...@toddc5quad.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:20 PM much depends on your climate, environment and capital. Room is also an important issue. Each material has its plus and minuses. Finding someone to purchase the raw materials, perform the install and do the job right is all part of Doing it Right. How long will your ramp have to be or required Best Wishes In a message dated 10/14/2010 4:43:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@toddc5quad.com writes: Hi everyone, I need to install a new ramp, it can be temporary or permanent. I'm trying to decide between Cement, Wood or deck type material or Expanded metal. I was thinking snow and rain would fall through the expanded metal so it wouldn't require as much snow shoveling as the others. But would it have good traction when covered with frost, fresh snow or wet from rain? I have a cement ramp and it doesn't seem to have any issues unless the snow builds up and gets packed down before it gets shoveled off. I would think a wood or decking material would be similar to the cement. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Todd
RE: [QUAD-L] Ramps
You might want to check out an organization called, Rebuilding Together Good luck, Dave Krehbiel -Original Message- From: t...@toddc5quad.com [mailto:t...@toddc5quad.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:43 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Ramps Hi everyone, I need to install a new ramp, it can be temporary or permanent. I'm trying to decide between Cement, Wood or deck type material or Expanded metal. I was thinking snow and rain would fall through the expanded metal so it wouldn't require as much snow shoveling as the others. But would it have good traction when covered with frost, fresh snow or wet from rain? I have a cement ramp and it doesn't seem to have any issues unless the snow builds up and gets packed down before it gets shoveled off. I would think a wood or decking material would be similar to the cement. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Todd
[QUAD-L] ramps
Hi all. I have this kind of ramp.Works great in all seasons. www.americanramp.com-800-649-5215 Paul
[QUAD-L] Social Security Fast-Track Disability Processes Get Even Faster
With apologies to those on the list who are outside of U.S. -Don. News Release Wednesday, October 13, 2010 Mark Lassiter, Press Officer For Immediate Release 410-965-8904 press.off...@ssa.gov Social Security Fast-Track Disability Processes Get Even Faster New Rules Will Further Speed Benefits to Tens of Thousands of Americans with Disabilities (Printer friendly version) Michael J. Astrue, Commissioner of Social Security, today announced that the agency has published final rules that will further reduce the time it takes to decide applications for disability benefits from those persons with the most severe disabilities—a process that currently takes less than two weeks on average. The new rules allow disability examiners to make fully favorable determinations for adult cases under the agency’s Quick Disability Determination (QDD) and Compassionate Allowance (CAL) processes without medical or psychological consultant approval. It also will help the agency process cases more efficiently as it will give medical and psychological consultants more time to work on complex cases where their expertise is most needed. “The new rules we are publishing today will help us get disability benefits to the most severely disabled Americans even faster,” Commissioner Astrue said. “This year, more than 100,000 people benefited from our fast-track disability processes and received decisions in a matter of days rather than the months and years it can sometimes take. I am pleased that our fast-track processes will now be even faster and help speed much needed benefits to our most vulnerable citizens.” Under Social Security’s QDD process, a predictive computer model analyzes specific data within the electronic disability file to identify cases where there is a high likelihood that the claimant is disabled and we can quickly obtain medical evidence. The CAL process currently identifies 88 specific diseases and conditions that clearly qualify for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income disability benefits and can be fast-tracked. The final rules, 20 CFR Parts 404 and 416, can be accessed through the Federal Register online at www.regulations.gov. They will be effective on November 12, 2010. Additional information about Social Security’s Compassionate Allowances process is available at www.socialsecurity.gov/compassionateallowances.
[QUAD-L] portable shower
Has anyone tried the portable shower on the americanramp.com site? is it any good? Best, Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps
My husband really likes to watch Holmes on Homes on HGTV with Mike Holmes. I watched an episode of it with him today whereby a guy with MS had moved into a home 6 years prior and then was diagnosed with MS a few years later and his health *rapidly* deteriorated. He is now confined to a scooter. Anyway, the guy with MS and his wife had known another guy in some capacity and they asked him if he would build a ramp for them... on to their home of course. Needless to say, the guy did a crappy job and then kept coming up with excuses as to finishing it correctly, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. So, in comes Mike Holmes with his crew. Mike showed everything about it that was so poorly done (and therefore unsafe). So him and his crew took off the other ramp and built one (a perfect one) that was up to code, etc. For those living in extreme temperatures (from cold winter months to very hot months) it is important to use PRESSURE TREATED WOOD. Mike also did not use nails. He used GALVANIZED SCREWS (if not galvanized, they will rust quickly from rain or snow, etc.). And he used approximately 3000 of those screws for the ramp he built onto this guys house for him. Not to mention going for foot down in the earth for stability. And making sure everything is leveled, etc. etc. etc. HGTV does a lot of reruns on many programs so you might want to check out your local listings when is on for you in your area and then look at THE TOPIC that Mike Holmes is working on in any particular episode. Lori On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:31 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: A ramp can be expensive. All ramps are expensive, so planning is most important. Is your family or friends doing the work for you or will the job be contracted? Until that is determined, it is difficult to offer you better and more credible advice. Will it be a straight run or have curves and bends? Single level or dual level? Best Wishes In a message dated 10/15/2010 8:24:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tecn...@sbcglobal.net writes: Please review the ANSI Codes regarding ramps as it is what most jurisdictions follow and will be a good guideline for the contractorthat will be building it for you. No material is impervious to the elements. Talk with your local Center for Independent Living for ideas, contractors, etc. --- On *Thu, 10/14/10, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com* wrote: From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps To: t...@toddc5quad.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:20 PM much depends on your climate, environment and capital. Room is also an important issue. Each material has its plus and minuses. Finding someone to purchase the raw materials, perform the install and do the job right is all part of Doing it Right. How long will your ramp have to be or required Best Wishes In a message dated 10/14/2010 4:43:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@toddc5quad.com writes: Hi everyone, I need to install a new ramp, it can be temporary or permanent. I'm trying to decide between Cement, Wood or deck type material or Expanded metal. I was thinking snow and rain would fall through the expanded metal so it wouldn't require as much snow shoveling as the others. But would it have good traction when covered with frost, fresh snow or wet from rain? I have a cement ramp and it doesn't seem to have any issues unless the snow builds up and gets packed down before it gets shoveled off. I would think a wood or decking material would be similar to the cement. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Todd -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 30+ years post Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps
My story of ramps _http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/ramps/index.htm_ (http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/ramps/index.htm) AZDAVE
Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps
This is really weird because about an hour after writing what I did in my previous e-mail regarding Mike Holmes and ramp building... someone on the SCIC list was asking if anyone tried a portable shower from the following website and the following website is all about ramps! American Ramps: http://www.amramp.com/ Lori On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM, hellodav...@aol.com wrote: My story of ramps http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/ramps/index.htm AZDAVE -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 30+ years post Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower
I found a similar portable camping shower for around 50$ I thought for a wheelchair shower you need to move the decimal point over one place. Wrong - double the price and THEN move the point over one - they start at $1,000. AZDAVE In a message dated 10/15/2010 2:30:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sbell...@cox.net writes: Has anyone tried the portable shower on the americanramp.com site? is it any good? Best, Shirley Bell _www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com_ (http://www.shirleybelldesigns.com/)
[QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use?
Quad buddies? I have used Norton and I wondered if there was something better? Is that hard to get Norton off your system? My aide had problems on his computer until he reformatted? Thank you,, Dana (C 4-5, 36 years post, 57, Prairie Village, Kansas, suburb of Kansas City)
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Re: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use?
AVG free version Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: daa...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use? Quad buddies? I have used Norton and I wondered if there was something better? Is that hard to get Norton off your system? My aide had problems on his computer until he reformatted? Thank you,, Dana (C 4-5, 36 years post, 57, Prairie Village, Kansas, suburb of Kansas City)
[QUAD-L] death don't like him
Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
Re: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use?
Hi - Dana-- there are some free ones as Eric mentioned but we have never tried those--after research we believe Kaspersky is the best one out there--me and some relatives have used it for 3 years now..however it is not cheap, it cost about 60 bucks a year. Norton is pretty good too but can make some things run a bit slow many users say. (Another is mcaffee but beware of that one because some users have got viruses even with it.) But of the basic ones --Kaspersky is excellent cost about $60 then 2nd best is probably Norton- cost about $ 40. Dan * From: daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 7:27:16 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use? Quad buddies? I have used Norton and I wondered if there was something better? Is that hard to get Norton off your system? My aide had problems on his computer until he reformatted? Thank you,, Dana (C 4-5, 36 years post, 57, Prairie Village, Kansas, suburb of Kansas City)
[QUAD-L] Anniversary
Today is a day to celebrate. 20 years ago at 2:30 PM I fell off of some scaffolding and fell 10 feet-that was just enough to make me a C4 complete. But considering that I was told that I probably wouldn't live a normal life line time wise I have proved them wrong and plan to do so for the next 10 years at least! I have had the joy of seeing four more grandchildren-age 13 on down-and two great grandchildren. My health is excellent, I can still be active and my favorite line is I still haven't figured out what I want to be when I grow up. So at 71 I look forward to an anticipated fantastic next 10 years and am looking forward to all the new inventions that will help most of us live better lives that I could have ever dreamed possible 20 years ago. Many thanks for this list, it has enabled me to learn more about what's new and shaking. Joan
Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower
don't mean to sound 'krask' but...what do have to work w/? Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower I found a similar portable camping shower for around 50$ I thought for a wheelchair shower you need to move the decimal point over one place. Wrong - double the price and THEN move the point over one - they start at $1,000. AZDAVE In a message dated 10/15/2010 2:30:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sbell...@cox.net writes: Has anyone tried the portable shower on the americanramp.com site? is it any good? Best, Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps
Go to www.pviramps.com Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2010, at 18:14, hellodav...@aol.com wrote: My story of ramps http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/ramps/index.htm AZDAVE
[QUAD-L] No shower since July 1999
Hi All, Can you guys imagine, I have not had a shower since 1999? I get plenty of bed baths but as you are all well aware, it just doesn't cut it. Bobbie Sent from my iPad
Re: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use?
may i mention, 12 yrs virus-free Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Danny Hearn To: daa...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use? Hi - Dana-- there are some free ones as Eric mentioned but we have never tried those--after research we believe Kaspersky is the best one out there--me and some relatives have used it for 3 years now..however it is not cheap, it cost about 60 bucks a year. Norton is pretty good too but can make some things run a bit slow many users say. (Another is mcaffee but beware of that one because some users have got viruses even with it.) But of the basic ones --Kaspersky is excellent cost about $60then 2nd best is probably Norton- cost about $ 40.Dan * -- From: daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 7:27:16 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] what kind of virus protection do you use? Quad buddies? I have used Norton and I wondered if there was something better? Is that hard to get Norton off your system? My aide had problems on his computer until he reformatted? Thank you,, Dana (C 4-5, 36 years post, 57, Prairie Village, Kansas, suburb of Kansas City)
Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower
I don't understand your question. please re-phrase. In a message dated 10/15/2010 6:42:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: don't mean to sound 'krask' but...what do have to work w/? Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _hellodav...@aol.com_ (mailto:hellodav...@aol.com) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower I found a similar portable camping shower for around 50$ I thought for a wheelchair shower you need to move the decimal point over one place. Wrong - double the price and THEN move the point over one - they start at $1,000. AZDAVE In a message dated 10/15/2010 2:30:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, _sbell...@cox.net_ (mailto:sbell...@cox.net) writes: Has anyone tried the portable shower on the americanramp.com site? is it any good? Best, Shirley Bell _www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com_ (http://www.shirleybelldesigns.com/)
Re: [QUAD-L] Anniversary
congrats Joan, at a mere 38 13 post-sci i salute you! Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Joan Anglin To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Anniversary Today is a day to celebrate. 20 years ago at 2:30 PM I fell off of some scaffolding and fell 10 feet-that was just enough to make me a C4 complete. But considering that I was told that I probably wouldn't live a normal life line time wise I have proved them wrong and plan to do so for the next 10 years at least! I have had the joy of seeing four more grandchildren-age 13 on down-and two great grandchildren. My health is excellent, I can still be active and my favorite line is I still haven't figured out what I want to be when I grow up. So at 71 I look forward to an anticipated fantastic next 10 years and am looking forward to all the new inventions that will help most of us live better lives that I could have ever dreamed possible 20 years ago. Many thanks for this list, it has enabled me to learn more about what's new and shaking. Joan
Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower
oops meant 2 reply 2 shirley Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower I don't understand your question. please re-phrase. In a message dated 10/15/2010 6:42:02 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: don't mean to sound 'krask' but...what do have to work w/? Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: hellodav...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] portable shower I found a similar portable camping shower for around 50$ I thought for a wheelchair shower you need to move the decimal point over one place. Wrong - double the price and THEN move the point over one - they start at $1,000. AZDAVE In a message dated 10/15/2010 2:30:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, sbell...@cox.net writes: Has anyone tried the portable shower on the americanramp.com site? is it any good? Best, Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
RE: [QUAD-L] Ramps
If it's just a straight ramp you need and not too steep, maybe you could considera portable ramp, I use one in my van since I don't have an electric one and I use it a lot for getting in to unaccessible places. I live in Mexico though, sothere are a lot of places like that. Lissette Whitehead www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:43:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps From: lorilivin...@gmail.com To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com My husband really likes to watch Holmes on Homes on HGTV with Mike Holmes. I watched an episode of it with him today whereby a guy with MS had moved into a home 6 years prior and then was diagnosed with MS a few years later and his health rapidly deteriorated. He is now confined to a scooter. Anyway, the guy with MS and his wife had known another guy in some capacity and they asked him if he would build a ramp for them... on to their home of course. Needless to say, the guy did a crappy job and then kept coming up with excuses as to finishing it correctly, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. So, in comes Mike Holmes with his crew. Mike showed everything about it that was so poorly done (and therefore unsafe). So him and his crew took off the other ramp and built one (a perfect one) that was up to code, etc. For those living in extreme temperatures (from cold winter months to very hot months) it is important to use PRESSURE TREATED WOOD. Mike also did not use nails. He used GALVANIZED SCREWS (if not galvanized, they will rust quickly from rain or snow, etc.). And he used approximately 3000 of those screws for the ramp he built onto this guys house for him. Not to mention going for foot down in the earth for stability. And making sure everything is leveled, etc. etc. etc. HGTV does a lot of reruns on many programs so you might want to check out your local listings when is on for you in your area and then look at THE TOPIC that Mike Holmes is working on in any particular episode. Lori On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:31 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: A ramp can be expensive. All ramps are expensive, so planning is most important. Is your family or friends doing the work for you or will the job be contracted? Until that is determined, it is difficult to offer you better and more credible advice. Will it be a straight run or have curves and bends? Single level or dual level? Best Wishes In a message dated 10/15/2010 8:24:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, tecn...@sbcglobal.net writes: Please review the ANSI Codes regarding ramps as it is what most jurisdictions follow and will be a good guideline for the contractorthat will be building it for you. No material is impervious to the elements. Talk with your local Center for Independent Living for ideas, contractors, etc. --- On Thu, 10/14/10, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote: From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps To: t...@toddc5quad.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:20 PM much depends on your climate, environment and capital. Room is also an important issue. Each material has its plus and minuses. Finding someone to purchase the raw materials, perform the install and do the job right is all part of Doing it Right. How long will your ramp have to be or required Best Wishes In a message dated 10/14/2010 4:43:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@toddc5quad.com writes: Hi everyone, I need to install a new ramp, it can be temporary or permanent. I'm trying to decide between Cement, Wood or deck type material or Expanded metal. I was thinking snow and rain would fall through the expanded metal so it wouldn't require as much snow shoveling as the others. But would it have good traction when covered with frost, fresh snow or wet from rain? I have a cement ramp and it doesn't seem to have any issues unless the snow builds up and gets packed down before it gets shoveled off. I would think a wood or decking material would be similar to the cement. Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Todd -- Lori Age - 46 C4/5 complete quad, 30+ years post Tucson, AZ
RE: [QUAD-L] Ramps
I like the doggy in the pics, what breed is it?looks a bit like one of my chihuahuas whichgrew huge. Lissette Whitehead www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com www.lwgripgloves.com From: hellodav...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:14:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ramps To: quad-list@eskimo.com My story of ramps http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/ramps/index.htm AZDAVE
