Re: [QUAD-L] protection
I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? Don't taze me bro!! Todd D c-6 inc '89
Re: [QUAD-L] protection
I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doorsthen im in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but at the ready..if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs could work. If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or vehiclegive it to him. A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you out of nowhere. Ron c7 From: Mandy moo_on_whe...@yahoo.com To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? Don't taze me bro!! Todd D c-6 inc '89
[QUAD-L] Pain
Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
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I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
Re: [QUAD-L] Pain
John, my doc said it was best for me to keep the pain med in my system--so I take oxy every day--Do you too?? If I don't take any my spasms and pain gets bad. Thanks, Dan H. From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com To: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:20:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
Re: [QUAD-L] Pain
20mg time release twice a day. without it I sweat and shake and spasm violently. After 20 years or around there, even normal quads have bone density equal to chalk. In the early years, often quads are encouraged to do dangerous stretching and spend hours excersising. This wears out joints and fractures bones that simply turn into an outragious form of aurthritis. It would save us a lot of pain if folks understood we were different, PT's are the worst offenders. BW, john From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com; jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain John, my doc said it was best for me to keep the pain med in my system--so I take oxy every day--Do you too?? If I don't take any my spasms and pain gets bad. Thanks, Dan H. From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com To: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:20:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
Re: [QUAD-L] protection
The past few years I've been lucky enough to have a dog. Shes a lab/pit bull mix and she scares hell out of people. If I don't say hush girl, she will chase folks. On walks she is not offensive unless people start yelling and her bark always calms things down. She drew blood once from a guy that that kept coming at me after she had warned him and I didn't call her back. Its hard to explain how much safer I feel with her around. Even my aide likes walking to the store with her and her fake sevice dog coat on. The bet money I've spent in a long time BW, john From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doorsthen im in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but at the ready..if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs could work. If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or vehiclegive it to him. A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you out of nowhere. Ron c7 From: Mandy moo_on_whe...@yahoo.com To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? Don't taze me bro!! Todd D c-6 inc '89
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I have the same miserable symptoms and take the same pills as John. Two oxy's a day help a great deal with spasms as well. When the pain breaks through, I supplement them with a percocet. I'm probably decimating my liver, but I'm wagering the liver will last as long as the rest of me. After 41 years, I'm about shot anyway. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com Date: August 15, 2012 2:59:39 PM EDT To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain Reply-To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com 20mg time release twice a day. without it I sweat and shake and spasm violently. After 20 years or around there, even normal quads have bone density equal to chalk. In the early years, often quads are encouraged to do dangerous stretching and spend hours excersising. This wears out joints and fractures bones that simply turn into an outragious form of aurthritis. It would save us a lot of pain if folks understood we were different, PT's are the worst offenders. BW, john From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com; jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain John, my doc said it was best for me to keep the pain med in my system--so I take oxy every day--Do you too?? If I don't take any my spasms and pain gets bad. Thanks, Dan H. From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com To: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:20:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
Re: [QUAD-L] ADA ramp at courthouse
federal building requires a foot of length for every inch of rise. So a 50 inch rise to the door from the sidewalk would require a 50 ft rampway. The ramp slope must be consistent. Goodluck, john From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com To: todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] ADA ramp at courthouse Todd, you can begin with the building's owner. You might want to include the help of your local, Federally funded Center for Independent Living (CIL), to check out the area for compliance. If the ramp is not in compliance, the CIL will assist you in resolving this issue. An injury to anyone using this ramp could prove costly and might motivate someone in city/town management to get the ball rolling. Best Wishes In a message dated 8/14/2012 11:49:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes: I went to my local city courthouse this morning and they have a long sloped walkway that goes up to the door, and the door has a handicapped entry thing. The problem is that in order to even get to the bottom of the long sloped walkway (which appears in compliance), on each side of it there are steep sidewalks that go down to the handicapped parking. Where the curb cut ramp was, there was probably 3 feet of REALLY steep, almost flipped my chair backwards even leaning forward with my stomach on my legs pushing. Whoever can get up that one (paras obv), then there is another 20ft or more of less steep walkway, but still much steeper than the long sloped walkway up to the door. Is there anything I can do that will actually get a response? Thanks Todd c-6 inc '89
Re: [QUAD-L] protection
John, Penalties for slapping a vest and passing your dog off as a fake service dog, vary from state to state, in California it is a Misdemeanor carries a $2500 fine and up to a year in jail, in Florida it is a Felony. Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack. By slapping a service dog vest on an aggressive dog that scares the hell out of people and will chase folks you are setting yourself for up for the possibility of a huge fine, jail time and a lawsuit. Bob On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:08 PM, John S. wrote: The past few years I've been lucky enough to have a dog. Shes a lab/pit bull mix and she scares hell out of people. If I don't say hush girl, she will chase folks. On walks she is not offensive unless people start yelling and her bark always calms things down. She drew blood once from a guy that that kept coming at me after she had warned him and I didn't call her back. Its hard to explain how much safer I feel with her around. Even my aide likes walking to the store with her and her fake sevice dog coat on. The bet money I've spent in a long time BW, john From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doorsthen im in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but at the ready..if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs could work. If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or vehiclegive it to him. A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you out of nowhere. Ron c7 From: Mandy moo_on_whe...@yahoo.com To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? Don't taze me bro!! Todd D c-6 inc '89
Re: [QUAD-L] protection
“Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack.” I almost agree, but my dog is legit protection trained ADA certified. While the ADA did not “certify” her protection training, it did not keep her from being certified. She is kept on leash if needed will stand “watch” will not let an assailant approach. I can tell her “a word” and she will attack but I can also use another command and recall her. Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com From: Bob Vogel Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:22 PM To: John S. Cc: RONALD L PRACHT ; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection John, Penalties for slapping a vest and passing your dog off as a fake service dog, vary from state to state, in California it is a Misdemeanor carries a $2500 fine and up to a year in jail, in Florida it is a Felony. Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack. By slapping a service dog vest on an aggressive dog that scares the hell out of people and will chase folks you are setting yourself for up for the possibility of a huge fine, jail time and a lawsuit. Bob On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:08 PM, John S. wrote: The past few years I've been lucky enough to have a dog. Shes a lab/pit bull mix and she scares hell out of people. If I don't say hush girl, she will chase folks. On walks she is not offensive unless people start yelling and her bark always calms things down. She drew blood once from a guy that that kept coming at me after she had warned him and I didn't call her back. Its hard to explain how much safer I feel with her around. Even my aide likes walking to the store with her and her fake sevice dog coat on. The bet money I've spent in a long time BW, john From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doorsthen im in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but at the ready..if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs could work. If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or vehiclegive it to him. A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you out of nowhere. Ron c7 From: Mandy moo_on_whe...@yahoo.com To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in
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I take Tramadol that would put House to shame! I also take Percocet Valium. I've been on these meds for the last 15 yrs, (21 yrs post). They take the edge off then I take more then I fight severe constipation, Vicious circle. Dianna I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com; jume jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 2:28 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain John, my doc said it was best for me to keep the pain med in my system--so I take oxy every day--Do you too?? If I don't take any my spasms and pain gets bad. Thanks, Dan H. From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com To: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:20:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
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I feel exactly like you. I'd rather be active then lay around in pain. Sometimes quality beats quanity. I have blood work every 6 mos. I'd love to be here to watch my granddaughter go to college, marry, etc. But I'm not giving up on walks thru the park, movies, zoo, etc. Dianna I have the same miserable symptoms and take the same pills as John. Two oxy's a day help a great deal with spasms as well. When the pain breaks through, I supplement them with a percocet. I'm probably decimating my liver, but I'm wagering the liver will last as long as the rest of me. After 41 years, I'm about shot anyway. -Original Message- From: lwillis821 lwillis...@yahoo.com To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 4:23 pm Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Pain I have the same miserable symptoms and take the same pills as John. Two oxy's a day help a great deal with spasms as well. When the pain breaks through, I supplement them with a percocet. I'm probably decimating my liver, but I'm wagering the liver will last as long as the rest of me. After 41 years, I'm about shot anyway. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com Date: August 15, 2012 2:59:39 PM EDT To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain Reply-To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com 20mg time release twice a day. without it I sweat and shake and spasm violently. After 20 years or around there, even normal quads have bone density equal to chalk. In the early years, often quads are encouraged to do dangerous stretching and spend hours excersising. This wears out joints and fractures bones that simply turn into an outragious form of aurthritis. It would save us a lot of pain if folks understood we were different, PT's are the worst offenders. BW, john From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net To: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com; jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain John, my doc said it was best for me to keep the pain med in my system--so I take oxy every day--Do you too?? If I don't take any my spasms and pain gets bad. Thanks, Dan H. From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com To: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:20:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain I take the damn vicodin. I also take time release oxy's and valium. I dont get a buzz from it but I dont feel so much joint pain. BW, john From: jume9...@comcast.net jume9...@comcast.net To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Pain Hi all. I haven't been on this list that long, I was on it a long time ago but I haven't been up to date until about a month ago. So I have missed any discussions about dealing with chronic pain. I have been disabled for 31 yrs. I have only been in pain for about a year. It is in my neck, upper back and shooting into my left arm. I have tried chiropractic adjustments but he doesn't want to make me worse so he actually told me that I should stop. I had a cortisone shot in my neck but it did not help. So I have tried naproxin, tramadol and vicodin. The vicodin is the only medication that helps. I don't want to take it for the rest of my life because I know it isn't safe. My question is what do all of you do for pain? Thanks. Meredith
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Amen. When in doubt such as movie/mall closings after dark...ask for security personnel to escort you safely to your vehicle. Never be to proud to ask for help! Dianna I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. -Original Message- From: Bobbie Humphreys bobbie...@aol.com To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 8:45 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection Todd, May I ask, where do you live? Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com To: quad list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? Don't taze me bro!! Todd D c-6 inc '89
