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Hi Barb,I believe there is a positive energy and a negative energy at work in the Universe. Call it what you may, Good/Evil, God/Satan, it doesn't matter. I chose to think the positive energy causes the sun to rise, makes the flowers bloom, and helps me through each day. The negative energy causes the droughts, the floods, and causes bad things to happen to good people.I also believe that using positive energy we can find our way, even with a SCI.With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off.how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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Hi Bill,It is at the top of my list. My 'To Do Today' list! ;-)With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have put orgasm at the top of the list. LOLIn all honesty, I believe God is still with each of us. He just gives us each different challenges. It's up to us to trust in Him and do our best.Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I have another questionyou all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off.how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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Stunt, I too was 43 when I broke my neck, reading this post sounds like my life also. Very very good advice! Thanks! Silas - Original Message - From: Tim Thompson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I have another question In my opinion, God is the creator. Management of everyday events are "NOT HIS JOB". Bad things happen to good people, but that doesn't mean they have to happen for a "religious reason", just that "Shit Happens". The 2nd night after my accident, 10 long years ago, I was ready to "let go" and a voice boomed through my head saying "If I had wanted you, I would have taken you" Since that night I've just dealt with learning how to do what I can, and never doubting the old adage that "all living things die". Now I was 43 when my accident happened, so I had a lot of life experience to draw from to guide me. My bit of wisdom already achieved through years of "learning from my mistakes" helped me stay focused through rehab, and I promised myself to deny pity from within or from others. It can be the biggest hurdle for many to overcome. Mine (hurdles)were mostly related with reliance on others (loss of my "free-bird" life style) and PATIENCE! Prior to my C5-6 injury, I lived "ALONE on a mountain top with my nearest neighbora mile away. I could build or repair almost anything with my hands, a lifetime spent learning those skills. The summer before, I got my first lead "bad guy" role in an independent film while doubling as the Stunt Coordinator, I was halfway through teaching my first class of "new stunt people" in a stunt schoolI finally opened we were going to work in "Starship Troopers" as the first Stunt Association in South Dakota. It looked like I was finally getting somewhere.. Now, I've started a new life after 4 yrs of college, something I never dreamed of doing before my lifestyle changed. But there is a life after injury, you just need to want it bad enough to get pass the "crawling stage" of life, w/o crawling. "Others" can cook andclean for you, giving them a purpose in life that YOU provide. And Orgazims are 90% mental even for able bodied people, you may find somewhere on your head-neck-shoulder area that when given the right stimulation (4 example I knew a woman who orgazimed while "giving" oral sex) and the back of the neck, mouth, ears etc are very sensual areas. Will your life ever "be the same as before"? Probably not, but you can still achieve a lot of living "differently". Why some people mutilate their bodies "just to be different". My advice would be: to treat others around you pleasently, and try your best to not dwell on your condition (what you can't do) to keep "trying" to develop everything you can get back with rehab, and on your own "then" when you're ready, look inside yourself and ask "what do I want to do with my life" and GO FOR IT. Stunt Just some of the websites I've made since becoming a quad My acting/stunt career http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/ Firstcomplete website http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/ Computer Graphic Portfolio http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/ A non-profit student orgproject http://members.tripod.com/hoosier-adapt/index.htm mehttp://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.htmlOpen forum for quads http://nw-in.com/InvisionBoard/index.php My first Domain http://nw-in.com/index.html Not as exciting as doing stunts, but something I couldn't do in my past-life. On 6/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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I often asked my self the same question about God Barb especially with all the tragedy that has happened to some of my friends and family since I've been injured. As for orgasms, I read on a quadriplegic site a few months ago that 50 percent of quadriplegic women are able to achieve wetness and orgasms while only 10 percent of quadriplegic men can achieve the erection and orgasms. As for picking your nose, I leave a thumbnail a little longer to dig the ones I can see. Jim
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I agree with that old bumper sticker philosophy, and when it happens we can go to God for strength, guidance, and peace. I like the Josh Billings quote someone recently posted: 'Life consists not in holding good cards, but in playing those you hold well.' TimTim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In my opinion, God is the creator. Management of everyday events are "NOT HIS JOB". Bad things happen to good people, but that doesn't mean they have to happen for a "religious reason", just that "Shit Happens".On 6/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off.how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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In a message dated 6/12/2006 3:47:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb [EMAIL PROTECTED], is a quadmother and grad grandmother. She is a C-5 if I remember correctly and had 3 children after becoming a quad. She is great peer when she's around. I hope she's watching and reading her emails. W
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you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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I would have put orgasm at the top of the list. LOL In all honesty, I believe God is still with each of us. He just gives us each different challenges. It's up to us to trust in Him and do our best. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I have another question you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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Title: Message How far post are you? I can cook, cleanum, did I mention pick my nose. C5 here too. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 3:47 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [Norton AntiSpam] [QUAD-L] I have another question you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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Hey eric..Now I have a questionhow do you take care of that one...?? amyBill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have put orgasm at the top of the list. LOLIn all honesty, I believe God is still with each of us. He just gives us each different challenges. It's up to us to trust in Him and do our best.Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I have another questionyou all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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um, which one? On 6/12/06, Amy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey eric..Now I have a questionhow do you take care of that one...?? amy Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have put orgasm at the top of the list. LOL In all honesty, I believe God is still with each of us. He just gives us each different challenges. It's up to us to trust in Him and do our best. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I have another question you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Eric W Rudd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe God is too busy elsewhere in the universe on one of the many millions of planets that can sustain life to worry about what goes on here on the surface of ours. Besides, you chose this life yourself before you even came here - this was on your cosmic 'to-do' list for the completion of your karmic evolution for your eventual trip to the rapture. Dave In a message dated 6/12/2006 1:47:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
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I think God puts us here and then we have free will and things happen. If God was to control all of our lives and never let anything bad happen, then why should anyone put any effort into doing anything if everything was going to end up fine and fun. I think once we are born, we have free will. Now that doesnt mean we chose this life, but things happen. I dont think God controls rocks from falling off cliffs, or an idiot getting drunk and shooting someone. My theory is God puts us here to try and live together and see what happens. I cant imagine God micromanaging every life, making sure nothing bad happened to anyone. We could drive 120mph, jump off cliffs, swim under water and breath in, and not have to worry about anything bad happening. There has to be somerisk in lif. Greg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:47 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I have another question you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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In a message dated 6/12/2006 3:47:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb Paul Berg, a former quad that past away almost a decade of being a quad, used to travel the country by jet, by himself, and speak on corporation motivation. His topic, The Impossible Only Takes A Little Longer. Several years ago, a Rabbi, wrote a book that has become basic training in trauma relief. The book, Why Bad Things Happen To Good People, is also another basic book. Picking your nose in public is just as bad now as before your trauma. Your Mother board is human, your software is Quad. You have much to learn... and you will. W
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In my opinion, God is the creator. Management of everyday events are NOT HIS JOB. Bad things happen to good people, but that doesn't mean they have to happen for a religious reason, just that Shit Happens. The 2nd night after my accident, 10 long years ago, I was ready to let go and a voice boomed through my head saying If I had wanted you, I would have taken you Since that night I've just dealt with learning how to do what I can, and never doubting the old adage that all living things die. Now I was 43 when my accident happened, so I had a lot of life experience to draw from to guide me. My bit of wisdom already achieved through years of learning from my mistakes helped me stay focused through rehab, and I promised myself to deny pity from within or from others. It can be the biggest hurdle for many to overcome. Mine (hurdles)were mostly related with reliance on others (loss of my free-bird life style) and PATIENCE! Prior to my C5-6 injury, I lived ALONE on a mountain top with my nearest neighbora mile away. I could build or repair almost anything with my hands, a lifetime spent learning those skills. The summer before, I got my first lead bad guy role in an independent film while doubling as the Stunt Coordinator, I was halfway through teaching my first class of new stunt people in a stunt schoolI finally opened we were going to work in Starship Troopers as the first Stunt Association in South Dakota. It looked like I was finally getting somewhere.. Now, I've started a new life after 4 yrs of college, something I never dreamed of doing before my lifestyle changed. But there is a life after injury, you just need to want it bad enough to get pass the crawling stage of life, w/o crawling. Others can cook andclean for you, giving them a purpose in life that YOU provide. And Orgazims are 90% mental even for able bodied people, you may find somewhere on your head-neck-shoulder area that when given the right stimulation (4 example I knew a woman who orgazimed while giving oral sex) and the back of the neck, mouth, ears etc are very sensual areas. Will your life ever be the same as before? Probably not, but you can still achieve a lot of living differently. Why some people mutilate their bodies just to be different. My advice would be: to treat others around you pleasently, and try your best to not dwell on your condition (what you can't do) to keep trying to develop everything you can get back with rehab, and on your own then when you're ready, look inside yourself and ask what do I want to do with my life and GO FOR IT. Stunt Just some of the websites I've made since becoming a quad My acting/stunt career http://thor.prohosting.com/stunttnt/ Firstcomplete website http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/ Computer Graphic Portfolio http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/ A non-profit student orgproject http://members.tripod.com/hoosier-adapt/index.htm mehttp://quads.nw-in.com/quad-enter.htmlOpen forum for quads http://nw-in.com/InvisionBoard/index.php My first Domain http://nw-in.com/index.html Not as exciting as doing stunts, but something I couldn't do in my past-life. On 6/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb
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How do you know God did this? Like I said in my earlier post, don't dwell. You may never know why, so don't get caught wasting valuable time and energy. I feel god wants use to mind our own business, focus on what we have to do. for me god is of all life, I don't pray and why me, and if God ever answered I'm sure the answer would be "why not you". point is it's none of my business. I pray for myself but only for "the stregth, wisdom and love, these things are in all of life. From the little ants to the great Sequoia, this life isn't that long. Do the very best you can, you are not alone, peace.On Jun 12, 2006, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe God is too busy elsewhere in the universe on one of the many millions of planets that can sustain life to worry about what goes on here on the surface of ours. Besides, you chose this life yourself before you even came here - this was on your cosmic 'to-do' list for the completion of your karmic evolution for your eventual trip to the rapture. Dave In a message dated 6/12/2006 1:47:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967 Mack Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://macknezjohnson.com
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My grammar sucks, i'm very tired ;)On Jun 12, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Mack Johnson wrote:How do you know God did this? Like I said in my earlier post, don't dwell. You may never know why, so don't get caught wasting valuable time and energy. I feel god wants use to mind our own business, focus on what we have to do. for me god is of all life, I don't pray and why me, and if God ever answered I'm sure the answer would be "why not you". point is it's none of my business. I pray for myself but only for "the stregth, wisdom and love, these things are in all of life. From the little ants to the great Sequoia, this life isn't that long. Do the very best you can, you are not alone, peace.On Jun 12, 2006, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Maybe God is too busy elsewhere in the universe on one of the many millions of planets that can sustain life to worry about what goes on here on the surface of ours. Besides, you chose this life yourself before you even came here - this was on your cosmic 'to-do' list for the completion of your karmic evolution for your eventual trip to the rapture. Dave In a message dated 6/12/2006 1:47:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you all said to ask anything. how can their possibly be a god that would let this kind of unhumaine suffering happen? i'm only C 5 other's are a lot worse off. how am I to cook, clean, have an orgazim or pick my nose? Barb Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967 Mack Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://macknezjohnson.com Mack Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://macknezjohnson.com