Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
wow, that's alot of drugs. - Original Message - From: Dana Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative I have taken Methadone for 'several' years after my doc took me off of perkacet. I take 2 pills 3 times a day along with half an Aquabid. It is my understanding the aquabid 'boosts' the methadone just a little. (?) I do not get a buzz like I did with perkacet--actually I just felt 'warmer' for a couple of hours. I also take 2 ultracet 4 times a day, alternating it with the meth. I feel no high from either drug and if I stick pretty close to schedule, the pain is managed. Sometimes I will take an extra dose of ultracet. I have not tried going off the neurontin since starting the meth. After the bad experiance with the gabitril, I am hesitant. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Stacy Harim wrote: I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. Stacy I am also enjoying being free of neurontin, gabatril, etc thru the use of methadose (a better name to call it since methadone is always connected to junkies. I take 10 mg 2x/day and am pain free in many respects, including neuro pain. Does anybody get a buzz when taking the meth? supposedly it does not get one high happyeaster, brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Which explains my high tolerance to drugs--at least the pain and 'valium' types! :) The last time I was in the hospital for a skin flap, nmy veins were non-existant, so they decided to put a main line in. The problem, I was already in the big sand filled air bed and the docs did not want me taken out of it. S, they tried putting a board under my upper body to get it in the proper position to do the needle pushing. The local did not work. She tried 5 times to get it in my left collar bone area! Then 2 times on the right side and once for my jugular!! By that time I was screaming and crying like crazy! She finally gave up and just walked away. A male doc walked by and got involved. He knew I was not in the physically correct position--I needed my whole body to be flat. They gave me a washcloth to wipe/hide my face and pushed the big bed back up to my room. The nurses were shocked at the state I was in. Finally the docs relented and that afternoon they came to tell me they were going to try again! I went nuts! They put me on a gurney and down I went. They assured me it would not hurt this time. Yeah right! I laid in the OR holding room for quite a while. Then they did find a vien in my hand to put an IV in for some sort of medicine so I would not 'feel' anything. It took 5 syringes full of whatever it was before I was numb! I'm sure my adreniline had something to do with it. And I did not feel a thing! I gabbered constantly tho. They finally said that if I have any more surgeries to just have them automatically put a main line in. It probably will not happen, but I sure willmake some noise about it! When they say on the scale of one to ten with ten being the highest pain--I think I hit a 20! I puffed up swollen all around my neck and shoulders and ached if someone touched those areas for quite a while. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dana Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative wow, that's alot of drugs. - Original Message - From: Dana Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative I have taken Methadone for 'several' years after my doc took me off of perkacet. I take 2 pills 3 times a day along with half an Aquabid. It is my understanding the aquabid 'boosts' the methadone just a little. (?) I do not get a buzz like I did with perkacet--actually I just felt 'warmer' for a couple of hours. I also take 2 ultracet 4 times a day, alternating it with the meth. I feel no high from either drug and if I stick pretty close to schedule, the pain is managed. Sometimes I will take an extra dose of ultracet. I have not tried going off the neurontin since starting the meth. After the bad experiance with the gabitril, I am hesitant. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Stacy Harim wrote: I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. Stacy I am also enjoying being free of neurontin, gabatril, etc thru the use of methadose (a better name to call it since methadone is always connected to junkies. I take 10 mg 2x/day and am pain free in many respects, including neuro pain. Does anybody get a buzz when taking the meth? supposedly it does not get one high happyeaster, brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
I have taken Methadone for 'several' years after my doc took me off of perkacet. I take 2 pills 3 times a day along with half an Aquabid. It is my understanding the aquabid 'boosts' the methadone just a little. (?) I do not get a buzz like I did with perkacet--actually I just felt 'warmer' for a couple of hours. I also take 2 ultracet 4 times a day, alternating it with the meth. I feel no high from either drug and if I stick pretty close to schedule, the pain is managed. Sometimes I will take an extra dose of ultracet. I have not tried going off the neurontin since starting the meth. After the bad experiance with the gabitril, I am hesitant. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Stacy Harim wrote: I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. Stacy I am also enjoying being free of neurontin, gabatril, etc thru the use of methadose (a better name to call it since methadone is always connected to junkies. I take 10 mg 2x/day and am pain free in many respects, including neuro pain. Does anybody get a buzz when taking the meth? supposedly it does not get one high happyeaster, brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Stacy Harim wrote: I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. Stacy I am also enjoying being free of neurontin, gabatril, etc thru the use of methadose (a better name to call it since methadone is always connected to junkies. I take 10 mg 2x/day and am pain free in many respects, including neuro pain. Does anybody get a buzz when taking the meth? supposedly it does not get one high happyeaster, brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
How do you take it is it pill or capsual form or does it have to be injected ? Dan
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
It doesn't get me high at all. The dose is just too low. I do still take neurontin as well. I still suffer from some pain. I was told that since my injury is so incomplete that is why I am in so much pain and have so much spasticity. Stacy - Original Message - From: Brian Stocker To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Stacy Harim wrote: I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. StacyI am also enjoying being free of neurontin, gabatril, etc thru the use of methadose (a better name to call it since methadone is always connected to junkies. I take 10 mg 2x/day and am pain free in many respects, including neuro pain. Does anybody get a buzz when taking the meth? supposedly it does not get one highhappyeaster,brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Hi Stacy, I'd wake-up and want to eat. I put on weight and almost stopped working out completely, and that was when I started weaning myself off it. At least the pain lets me stay awake and doesn't put weight on me! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Dave, It had the same effect on me plus I put on weight. My doctor was a bit upset I quit taking it but did absolutely nothing for the pain. I take a low dose of methadone and I love it. It's only 15mg a day. The spasticity decreased and everything. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Hi Dan, I started taking Elavil and the longer it was in my system, the later I was getting up in the mornings. I'm usually up at 5:45 A.M. so it was unusual and I stopped using it. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
I'm telling ya. My pain specialist has me on 15mg of methadone a day. that's not very much as all. Huge improvement. It affects the nerve endings to keep the pain away. I was taking 20mg a day and asked to go down. I still have slight pain but nothing like before. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Stacy Harim ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Hi Stacy, I'd wake-up and want to eat. I put on weight and almost stopped working out completely, and that was when I started weaning myself off it. At least the pain lets me stay awake and doesn't put weight on me! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Dave, It had the same effect on me plus I put on weight. My doctor was a bit upset I quit taking it but did absolutely nothing for the pain. I take a low dose of methadone and I love it. It's only 15mg a day. The spasticity decreased and everything. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Hi Dan, I started taking Elavil and the longer it was in my system, the later I was getting up in the mornings. I'm usually up at 5:45 A.M. so it was unusual and I stopped using it. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Hey Dave, It had the same effect on me plus I put on weight. My doctor was a bit upset I quit taking it but did absolutely nothing for the pain. I take a low dose of methadone and I love it. It's only 15mg a day. The spasticity decreased and everything. Stacy - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative Hi Dan, I started taking Elavil and the longer it was in my system, the later I was getting up in the mornings. I'm usually up at 5:45 A.M. so it was unusual and I stopped using it. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
In a message dated 07/03/2005 20:21:45 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ? Hi, I use to take Neurontin, and if I remember rightly they did take a while to kick in. I did find I had a huge weight gain when I went on it as one of the side effects. I don't mean to put a downer on things, it's just always best to know the good and the bad! Take care, Love Smurf xxx
[QUAD-L] neurontin alternative and randeom abdominal pain
Well, it's been 10 yrs since I began Elavil but I'd remember if it bothered me. I'm lucky in that aspect to have a somewhat iron stomach. Aspirin bothers many tummies - not mine. Antibiodics bother many ... not mine. Different foods bother many ... not me. All you can do is experiment to SEE if, in fact, it IS Elavil. And you know my opinion on Neurontin.. one has to increase it exponentially to experience relief. No difference to me and taking huge doses and more all the time is uncool w/ me. Then a year to get off it! I'm experiencing bad torso pain and abdominal pain/aching overnight and off/on during the day. BAD! Now I don't know if it's my infection or spinal. I give up! Frustrating! Lori C4/5 complete, 25 yrs post ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/07/05 13:21:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative and randeom abdominal pain
I was put on Neurontin just the opposite. I started on 3 a day and decreased it to 1 a day. I've been taking it about 8 (?) years. I tried going off it one time and had no problem except after about 10 days those electrical shocks thru the body started up again. I put up with it for about another week, then caved in. I think the Gabitril disagreed with me. Yesterday I could hardly move without experiancing extreme pain. The abdominal cramps and pain were terrible. I am back on Neurontin again. I also basically slept thru the time my homemaker was here. She was shredding the last of a huge amount of old checks and bank statements and the shredder is not a quiet thing! I was worthless yesterday. Today I feel a lot better but am sleepy. I did a little bit of email this morning untilabout 12:00, then dozed off for the next 2-21/2 hrs. Now a few hours later, I am sleepy again. Hope-fully it will pass soon. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quad quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative and randeom abdominal pain Well, it's been 10 yrs since I began Elavil but I'd remember if it bothered me. I'm lucky in that aspect to have a somewhat iron stomach. Aspirin bothers many tummies - not mine. Antibiodics bother many ... not mine. Different foods bother many ... not me. All you can do is experiment to SEE if, in fact, it IS Elavil. And you know my opinion on Neurontin.. one has to increase it exponentially to experience relief. No difference to me and taking huge doses and more all the time is uncool w/ me. Then a year to get off it! I'm experiencing bad torso pain and abdominal pain/aching overnight and off/on during the day. BAD! Now I don't know if it's my infection or spinal. I give up! Frustrating! Lori C4/5 complete, 25 yrs post ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/07/05 13:21:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Hi Dan, I started taking Elavil and the longer it was in my system, the later I was getting up in the mornings. I'm usually up at 5:45 A.M. so it was unusual and I stopped using it. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Like most meds it has to get into your system to get working. I didn't like it but others here swear by it. Give ita chance. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative My Doc told me I need to try neurotin or elavil--- I tried elavil 3 days and slept good 1st night then had some indigestion next 2 nights not sure if the elavil caused it and had a lot of the pain i'm trying to get rid of 3rd night..Does anyone know if these meds take a while to begin working ?
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
QuadPirate wrote: Brian how are these working for you? I'm on Neurotin and would like an alternative. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Brian Stocker Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:02:08 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative My anesthesiologist has changed me from neurontin to Gabatril. He says that neurontin reduces 10% of your brain function. After all, it is a newural suppresxant. Check it out, I am pleased and the pills are tiny! Brian . I am unable to really tell, yet. Stayintouch Brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
Brian how are these working for you? I'm on Neurotin and would like an alternative. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Brian Stocker Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:02:08 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: Quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative My anesthesiologist has changed me from neurontin to Gabatril. He says that neurontin reduces 10% of your brain function. After all, it is a newural suppresxant. Check it out, I am pleased and the pills are tiny!Brian.
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
My anesthesiologist has changed me from neurontin to Gabatril. He says that neurontin reduces 10% of your brain function. After all, it is a newural suppresxant. Check it out, I am pleased and the pills are tiny! Brian
Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin alternative
how effective has Gabatril been for reducing pain? On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:02:08 -0800, Brian Stocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My anesthesiologist has changed me from neurontin to Gabatril. He says that neurontin reduces 10% of your brain function. After all, it is a newural suppresxant.
