[QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-29 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 8/29/2007 7:34:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Most of  you are probably already familiar with the classic book When Bad 
Things  Happen to Good People. If not, make a point to read it. It is an  
unsentimental look at all those bs platitudes we use to explain suffering.  
It is by Rabbi Harold Kushner.



Very good reading.  The book has been around for a number of  years and it's 
message is still as relevant today and it was when the book was  first 
released.
Good Point!
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2007-08-29 Thread William Willis



Most of you are probably already familiar with the classic book When Bad 
Things Happen to Good People. If not, make a point to read it. It is an 
unsentimental look at all those bs platitudes we use to explain suffering. 
It is by Rabbi Harold Kushner.




From: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:14:35 -0400



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I have found that venting is very therapeutic.  That's what we're here for
Silas.  I sincerely hope you are able to work on your farm if that's what
you want to do.  I don't know if you are doing so, but you might want to
think about telling your girlfriend how you feel about her.  It definitely
can't hurt.
I'll be thinking about you.
Quadius

On 8/26/07, Silas Shelburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hey Dave,

Sure wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there's a God.  I'm
having so much pain and I've prayed and prayed to God for a little relief,
how do you keep the faith.  Everybody says there's a reason for this and
Gods got the master plan, my life has changed so much in the past 6 months
that  I'm having trouble managing my farm.  If something don't change I
think I'll have to quit.  Even my relationship with my girl friend is
suffering, she thinks it's something to do with her but it's not.  I love
her to death, I sure hope I can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says the
first couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting guess 
I

just need to talk to people that know what I'm going through.  Thanks Silas





*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:13 AM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* [QUAD-L] newly injured me.



ATTA BOY DAVE!

W



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Danny,

i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing -
you broke your freeking neck 

my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out thinking -
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and had
c5-6-7 fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' - i
said 'ok, i can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'  little did 
i

know what he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of course no dancing, no
swimming, no playing, no shitting, no pissing like a normal man.. ok i
hope you get the point.   the thing is - there is still a lot of things i
CAN do.  i had and raised 3 kids  ---( 
kidspagehttp://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)  who have THEIR 
KIDS -- (  Dave

 Patty's Grandkids http://ocgrands.com/  )  i have a story -- (Dave's
story http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html )  AND a life --( 
Dave's

Broken Van http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/ ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.
this is a fight you chose to fight --(Dave's 
Philosophyhttp://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for) 
 don't think you are here by accident or maybe GOD hates you, he doesn't.

you are because you chose to be here, now do what needs doing,.

GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.

DAVE





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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-28 Thread Quadius
Well Danny welcome to the list.  Joining this list was one of the best
things I did, of course I didn't join until I was about three or four years
along.  So, you are well ahead of me.  As many people have indicated, the
first few years are the worst.  I sincerely hope you stay on the list and
learn as much as possible as well as providing us with some of your points
of view.
Good luck,
Quadius

On 8/25/07, Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ok…. First some background….

 I'm from southern California. I'm 24, I had a good career going for me
 before my injury…. I was a sr. network engineer for a good data/telecom
 company. I have a fiancé and family that takes care of me. I was in a
 horrible car accident. I broke c2,c6 and c7 and was on a vent for a while. I
 went to rehab at craig hospital and had most my surgery's there. I have a
 colostomy, and a super pubic catheter . I was originaly fused from skull to
 t1. I use a quadjoy and dragon naturally speaking/onscreen keyboard to use
 the computer and vonage for a phone. For fun I play video games with my
 family/friends. I use Netflix to rent  watch movies… I want a HD tv tunner
 card so I can watch tv on my computer.



 -Danny



Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-28 Thread Quadius
You know Dave I have been thinking about the crystal ball over the last
month.  In fact, when I was just in the hospital for my tri-annual
colonoscopy I kept thinking about how ironic it was that I had a colonoscopy
performed when I was 32 years old during which a precancerous polyp was
discovered.  If I hadn't been injured and had difficulties with my bowels I
wouldn't have known I had this polyp until it was too late.  Perhaps I would
have lived another 10 or 15 years, but would I have wanted to die of cancer
or live a prolonged life as a quadriplegic?  It really is debatable.  I have
met so many great people since I've been injured and for the most part
really enjoy my life, but like everyone else I have suffered as a result of
being a quad.  Looking back on the crystal ball is probably not the best
thing to do and I try to avoid it at all costs.

Metaphorically scratching my head pondering this issue.
Quadius


On 8/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Crystal ball gazing would definitely suck...
 What would you have done 10 years ago had you looked 10 years ahead and
 seen yourself like this?
 You could have skipped the pain, but then you'd have missed the dance.
 (Garth Brooks)
 Dave



Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-28 Thread Quadius
I have found that venting is very therapeutic.  That's what we're here for
Silas.  I sincerely hope you are able to work on your farm if that's what
you want to do.  I don't know if you are doing so, but you might want to
think about telling your girlfriend how you feel about her.  It definitely
can't hurt.
I'll be thinking about you.
Quadius

On 8/26/07, Silas Shelburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hey Dave,

 Sure wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there's a God.  I'm
 having so much pain and I've prayed and prayed to God for a little relief,
 how do you keep the faith.  Everybody says there's a reason for this and
 Gods got the master plan, my life has changed so much in the past 6 months
 that  I'm having trouble managing my farm.  If something don't change I
 think I'll have to quit.  Even my relationship with my girl friend is
 suffering, she thinks it's something to do with her but it's not.  I love
 her to death, I sure hope I can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says the
 first couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting guess I
 just need to talk to people that know what I'm going through.  Thanks Silas





 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:13 AM
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] newly injured me.



 ATTA BOY DAVE!

 W



  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Danny,

 i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing -
 you broke your freeking neck 

 my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out thinking -
 i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and had
 c5-6-7 fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' - i
 said 'ok, i can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'  little did i
 know what he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of course no dancing, no
 swimming, no playing, no shitting, no pissing like a normal man.. ok i
 hope you get the point.   the thing is - there is still a lot of things i
 CAN do.  i had and raised 3 kids  ---( 
 kidspagehttp://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)  who have THEIR KIDS 
 -- (  Dave
  Patty's Grandkids http://ocgrands.com/  )  i have a story -- (Dave's
 story http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html )  AND a life --( 
 Dave's
 Broken Van http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/ ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.
 this is a fight you chose to fight --(Dave's 
 Philosophyhttp://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for)
   don't think you are here by accident or maybe GOD hates you, he doesn't.
 you are because you chose to be here, now do what needs doing,.

 GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.

 DAVE





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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-27 Thread t crook
Welcome Danny- 
 
My name is Tim, I am a c5-c6 semi incomplete quad (19 yrs. post as of Aug. 
7th.) I am 41 and married. My wife and I run a handcrafted jewelry business 
www.whoopiekatjewelry.com .
 
I am always sorry to hear of people becoming paralyzed, because those of us 
that have been there know how tough it is. However- the stronger you stay 
mentally, the healthier you will remain.
 
A couple of thing's I personally recommend, check your skin daily (especially 
your butt), get plenty of protein, and last, but not least- stay hydrated.
 
Tim
www.geocities.com/onemofortom  my story
www.shop.whoopiekat.com  shopping site
http://blog.whoopiekatjewelry.com  blog
www.youtube.com/whoopiekatjewelry  our video
 


 
- Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:16:20 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.


Ok…. First some background….
I’m from southern California. I’m 24, I had a good career going for me before 
my injury…. I was a sr. network engineer for a good data/telecom company. I 
have a fiancé and family that takes care of me. I was in a horrible car 
accident. I broke c2,c6 and c7 and was on a vent for a while. I went to rehab 
at craig hospital and had most my surgery’s there. I have a colostomy, and a 
super pubic catheter . I was originaly fused from skull to t1. I use a quadjoy 
and dragon naturally speaking/onscreen keyboard to use the computer and vonage 
for a phone. For fun I play video games with my family/friends. I use Netflix 
to rent  watch movies… I want a HD tv tunner card so I can watch tv on my 
computer.
 
-Danny


  

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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-27 Thread John S.
Dear Silas,
Your seeing a doctor and you should mention that it was important enough for 
you to write it, it is a valid problem. It is not good for you to feel that way 
and I know your not feeling anything abnormal. That doctor knows you don't have 
to feel that way. Part of your injury inhibits your ability to draw on the 
emotional strength you have at the right moments. Don't just grit your teeth 
you'll feel rotten and have a sore jaw.d 

My best wishes and prayers,
john


- Original Message 
From: Silas Shelburne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:15:10 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.


Thanks W-, 
Guess ill grit my teeth and try to deal with it!  Silas 
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:45 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.
 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 8:32:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Everybody says the first couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for 
venting guess I just need to talk to people that know what I’m going through.  
Thanks Silas 
Nothing wrong with venting.  Its just part of the big picture.  For some 5 
years is considered normal.  I hope that your farm is your future, but maybe 
not.  I wish I had a crystal ball and could see the future for everyone.
Best Wishes Silas






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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-27 Thread Dillon Ewa
Oh Dave,

I have been injured 10 plus years and and still trying to find my way.  My 
biggest obstacle was my health, from pneumonia, to bladder infections and 
pressure sores.  I struggled through school but  jobs are hard to come by.  
Sometimes I feel myself a failure at not having progressed or achieved as much 
as I want or expected.  How does one cope when not having the excuse of being 
newly injured?

Edward

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sorry to see you going through this Silas - 
remember, many of us have been there.  Most have lost the mate they were with 
'before', many of us have questioned God's 'wisdom',  and all of us are 
wondering what else can go wrong.  I'm sure had I not broken my neck, I'd have 
been dead by now - Mach II with my hair on fire don't-cha-know.   I even drool 
now at these highly over powered crotch rockets and sky divers.  Yes there are 
better lives but there are worse ones too.  Keep your head up and eyes looking 
frontwards.   Tomorrow is a new day.
  Dave
   
   
   
  In a message dated 8/26/2007 6:32:28 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  Hey Dave, 
  Sure wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there’s a God.  I’m 
having so much pain and I’ve prayed and prayed to God for a little relief, 
how do you keep the faith.  Everybody says there’s a reason for this and Gods 
got the master plan, my life has changed so much in the past 6 months that  
I’m having trouble managing my farm.  If something don’t change I think 
I’ll have to quit.  Even my relationship with my girl friend is suffering, 
she thinks it’s something to do with her but it’s not.  I love her to 
death, I sure hope I can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says the first 
couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting guess I just 
need to talk to people that know what I’m going through.  Thanks Silas 
   
   
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.


   
  ATTA BOY DAVE!

W

 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Danny,

i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing - 
you broke your freeking neck 

my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out thinking - 
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and had c5-6-7 
fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' - i said 'ok, i 
can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'  little did i know what he 
meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of course no dancing, no swimming, no 
playing, no shitting, no pissing like a normal man.. ok i hope you get the 
point.   the thing is - there is still a lot of things i CAN do.  i had and 
raised 3 kids  ---( kidspage )  who have THEIR KIDS -- (  Dave  Patty's 
Grandkids  )  i have a story -- (Dave's story )  AND a life --( Dave's Broken 
Van ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.   this is a fight you chose to fight --(Dave's 
Philosophy )  don't think you are here by accident or maybe GOD hates you, he 
doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now do what needs doing,.

GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.

DAVE


 

  


  
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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-27 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
Edward,
I was hurt in 67 and got my 1st REAL job in 79.  I taught school a  little 
but I didn't consider that a real job.  Believe it or not, I think  this stuff 
really gets easier as you go.  I'm sure it's because we just get  more used to 
it but none the less. it's easier the farther I go.  I  signed up with the 
state placement agencys,   and many private placement  agencys.  Finally 
Honeywell hit and we were happily joined for 25  years.  Now I just screw 
around 
and enjoy life.
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 8/27/2007 4:53:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Oh  Dave,

I have been injured 10 plus years and and still trying to find my  way.  My 
biggest obstacle was my health, from pneumonia, to bladder  infections and 
pressure sores.  I struggled through school but  jobs  are hard to come by.  
Sometimes I feel myself a failure at not having  progressed or achieved as much 
as 
I want or expected.  How does one cope  when not having the excuse of being 
newly  injured?

Edward

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 
 
Sorry to see you going through this Silas - remember, many of us have  been 
there.  Most have lost the mate they were with 'before', many of  us have 
questioned God's 'wisdom',  and all of us are wondering what  else can go 
wrong.  
I'm sure had I not broken my neck, I'd have been  dead by now - Mach II with my 
hair on fire don't-cha-know.   I  even drool now at these highly over powered 
crotch rockets and sky  divers.  Yes there are better lives but there are 
worse ones too.   Keep your head up and eyes looking frontwards.   Tomorrow is 
a 
new  day.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 6:32:28 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
Hey  Dave, 
Sure  wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there’s a God.  I’m  
having so much pain and I’ve prayed and prayed to God for a little  
relief, how do you keep the faith.  Everybody says there’s a reason  for this 
and 
Gods got the master plan, my life has changed so much in the  past 6 months 
that  I’m having trouble managing my farm.  If  something don’t change I 
think I’ll have to quit.  Even my  relationship with my girl friend is 
suffering, she thinks it’s something  to do with her but it’s not.  I love 
her to death, I sure hope I  can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says the 
first couple years  are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting guess I 
just need  to talk to people that know what I’m going through.  Thanks Silas  


 
 
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday,  August 26, 2007 6:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] newly injured  me.


 
 
 
ATTA  BOY DAVE!

 
W

 


 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:


 
Danny,

 
i'm  so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing - you 
 broke your freeking neck 

 
my  1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out  thinking - 
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered  c5 and had c5-6-7 
fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was  'different' - i said 'ok, 
i can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL  different.'  little did i know what 
he meant.  he meant - no  walking  (and of course no dancing, no swimming, no 
playing, no  shitting, no pissing like a normal man.. ok i hope you get 
the  point.   the thing is - there is still a lot of things i CAN  do.  i had 
and raised 3 kids  ---( _kidspage_ 
(http://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)   )  who have THEIR KIDS -- (  
_Dave   Patty's Grandkids_ 
(http://ocgrands.com/)   )  i have a story -- (_Dave's story_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html)   )  AND a life --( _Dave's 
Broken Van_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/)   ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.   this is a 
fight you chose to  
fight --(_Dave's  Philosophy_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for)  )  
don't think you are here by accident or maybe 
GOD  hates you, he doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now  do what 
needs doing,.

 
GOD  BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE  BLESSED.

 
DAVE



 






  

 
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[QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread wheelchair
 
ATTA BOY DAVE!
W
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Danny,
i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing -  you 
broke your freeking neck 
my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out  thinking - 
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and  had c5-6-7 
fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different'  - i said 'ok, i 
can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'   little did i know what 
he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of  course no dancing, no swimming, no 
playing, no shitting, no pissing like a  normal man.. ok i hope you get the 
point.   the thing is - there  is still a lot of things i CAN do.  i had and 
raised 3 kids   ---( _kidspage_ 
(http://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)  )  who  have THEIR KIDS -- (  
_Dave  Patty's Grandkids_ 
(http://ocgrands.com/)   )  i  have a story -- (_Dave's story_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html)  )   AND a life --( _Dave's 
Broken Van_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/)   ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.   this is a 
fight you chose to 
fight  --(_Dave's  Philosophy_ (http://www.users.qwest.ne
t/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for)  )  don't think you are here by 
accident or maybe GOD 
hates  you, he doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now do what 
needs  doing,.
GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.
DAVE



 



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RE: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread Silas Shelburne
Hey Dave, 

Sure wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there's a God.  I'm having
so much pain and I've prayed and prayed to God for a little relief, how do
you keep the faith.  Everybody says there's a reason for this and Gods got
the master plan, my life has changed so much in the past 6 months that  I'm
having trouble managing my farm.  If something don't change I think I'll
have to quit.  Even my relationship with my girl friend is suffering, she
thinks it's something to do with her but it's not.  I love her to death, I
sure hope I can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says the first couple
years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting guess I just need to
talk to people that know what I'm going through.  Thanks Silas 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

 

ATTA BOY DAVE!

W

 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Danny,

i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing - you
broke your freeking neck 

my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out thinking -
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and had
c5-6-7 fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' - i
said 'ok, i can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'  little did i
know what he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of course no dancing, no
swimming, no playing, no shitting, no pissing like a normal man.. ok i
hope you get the point.   the thing is - there is still a lot of things i
CAN do.  i had and raised 3 kids  ---( kidspage
http://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html  )  who have THEIR KIDS --
(  Dave  http://ocgrands.com/  Patty's Grandkids  )  i have a story --
(Dave's story http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html  )  AND a life
--( Dave's Broken Van http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/  ).   DO NOT
GIVE UP.   this is a fight you chose to fight --(Dave's
http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for
Philosophy )  don't think you are here by accident or maybe GOD hates you,
he doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now do what needs doing,.

GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.

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RE: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread Silas Shelburne
Thanks W-, 

Guess ill grit my teeth and try to deal with it!  Silas 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:45 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

 

In a message dated 8/26/2007 8:32:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

Everybody says the first couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry for 
venting guess I just need to talk to people that know what I’m going through.  
Thanks Silas 

Nothing wrong with venting.  Its just part of the big picture.  For some 5 
years is considered normal.  I hope that your farm is your future, but maybe 
not.  I wish I had a crystal ball and could see the future for everyone.

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FW: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread William Willis


Welcome Danny. Sounds like you have had a helluva rough time.


From: Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:16:20 -0700

Ok…. First some background….

I’m from southern California. I’m 24, I had a good career going for me
before my injury…. I was a sr. network engineer for a good data/telecom
company. I have a fiancé and family that takes care of me. I was in a
horrible car accident. I broke c2,c6 and c7 and was on a vent for a while. 
I

went to rehab at craig hospital and had most my surgery’s there. I have a
colostomy, and a super pubic catheter . I was originaly fused from skull to
t1. I use a quadjoy and dragon naturally speaking/onscreen keyboard to use
the computer and vonage for a phone. For fun I play video games with my
family/friends. I use Netflix to rent  watch movies… I want a HD tv tunner
card so I can watch tv on my computer.



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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 3:15:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks  W-,  
Guess  ill grit my teeth and try to deal with it!  Silas  


I invite you to read the store about Ed Roberts.  The father of  Independent 
Living.
or you can just google his name for info.
 
Best Wishes
W



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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
Crystal ball gazing would definitely suck...
What would you have done 10 years ago had you looked 10 years ahead and  seen 
yourself like this?
You could have skipped the pain, but then you'd have missed the  dance.  
(Garth Brooks)
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 8:45:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 8:32:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Everybody  says the first couple years are the worst, but not for me.  Sorry 
for  venting guess I just need to talk to people that know what I’m going  
through.  Thanks Silas 


Nothing wrong with venting.  Its just part of the big  picture.  For some 5 
years is considered normal.  I hope that your  farm is your future, but maybe 
not.  I wish I had a crystal ball and  could see the future for everyone.
Best Wishes Silas



 

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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-26 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
Sorry to see you going through this Silas - remember, many of us have been  
there.  Most have lost the mate they were with 'before', many of us have  
questioned God's 'wisdom',  and all of us are wondering what else can go  
wrong.  
I'm sure had I not broken my neck, I'd have been dead by now - Mach  II with my 
hair on fire don't-cha-know.   I even drool now at these  highly over powered 
crotch rockets and sky divers.  Yes there are better  lives but there are 
worse ones too.  Keep your head up and eyes looking  frontwards.   Tomorrow is 
a 
new day.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2007 6:32:28 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
Hey  Dave,  
Sure  wish I had your faith, I wonder sometimes if there’s a God.  I’m 
having  so much pain and I’ve prayed and prayed to God for a little relief, how 
do 
you  keep the faith.  Everybody says there’s a reason for this and Gods got  
the master plan, my life has changed so much in the past 6 months that  I’m 
having trouble managing my farm.  If something don’t change I  think I’ll have 
to quit.  Even my relationship with my girl friend is  suffering, she thinks it’
s something to do with her but it’s not.  I love  her to death, I sure hope I 
can make it up to her soon!  Everybody says  the first couple years are the 
worst, but not for me.  Sorry for venting  guess I just need to talk to people 
that know what I’m going through.   Thanks Silas  
 
 
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August  26, 2007 6:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] newly injured  me.

 
 
ATTA  BOY DAVE!
 
W
 

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 
Danny,
 
i'm  so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing - you 
 broke your freeking neck 
 
my  1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out thinking -  
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and had  c5-6-7 
fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' -  i said 'ok, 
i can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'   little did i know what 
he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of  course no dancing, no swimming, no 
playing, no shitting, no pissing like a  normal man.. ok i hope you get 
the point.   the thing is -  there is still a lot of things i CAN do.  i had 
and 
raised 3 kids   ---( _kidspage_ 
(http://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)  )   who have THEIR KIDS -- (  
_Dave  Patty's Grandkids_ 
(http://ocgrands.com/)   )  i  have a story -- (_Dave's story_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html)   )  AND a life --( _Dave's 
Broken Van_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/)   ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.   this is a 
fight you chose to  
fight --(_Dave's  Philosophy_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for)  )  
don't think you are here by accident or maybe 
GOD  hates you, he doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now do  what 
needs doing,.
 
GOD  BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE  BLESSED.
 
DAVE


 




  

 
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[QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-25 Thread Danny Espinoza
Does anyone have advice for newly injured me. I am an incomplete quad. I
was injured a year and a half ago, im using a quadjoy and dragon on my
computer. Any help with anything is greatly appreciated. Anyone with
myspace? http://www.myspace.com/danny5020 

thanks in advance!

 



Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-25 Thread Amy Davis
Hi Danny. I am not a quad but my boyfriend is. I know he had a terrible time 
when he first got hurt. That was 5 years ago. Sometimes he still has periods 
that are hard. Just hang in there. You have a lot to look forward to! A lot to 
learn. 
  Tell us a little about yourself..how did you get hurt?
  Amy

Danny Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have advice for newly injured “me”. I am an 
incomplete quad. I was injured a year and a half ago, im using a quadjoy and 
dragon on my computer… Any help with anything is greatly appreciated. Anyone 
with myspace? http://www.myspace.com/danny5020 
  thanks in advance!
   



   
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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-25 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 8/25/2007 2:41:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Does anyone have advice for newly injured “me”. I am an  incomplete quad. I 
was injured a year and a half ago, im using a quadjoy and  dragon on my 
computer… Any help with anything is greatly appreciated. Anyone  with myspace? 
_http://www.myspace.com/danny5020_ (http://www.myspace.com/danny5020)
thanks in advance!


Hi Danny,
I've learned over the years, that free advise is rarely accepted or  
followed.  What is good for me, may not be good for you or any one else...  for 
that 
matter.  I'm sorry for you and those around you, that you are an  incomplete 
quad.  I'm also sure that you have a great history to share with  all of us, 
when the time is right.
Where did you do your rehab and how long were you in rehab?
 
Welcome to this list.  Granted there are others.  But I don't  think you will 
find an equal list of so many qualified quads offering some great  advise 
based on their personal experiences.  It will take time for you to  see that 
for 
yourself.
 
Looking forward to your posts.
Best Wishes
W



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Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-25 Thread Danny Espinoza
Ok…. First some background….

I’m from southern California. I’m 24, I had a good career going for me
before my injury…. I was a sr. network engineer for a good data/telecom
company. I have a fiancé and family that takes care of me. I was in a
horrible car accident. I broke c2,c6 and c7 and was on a vent for a while. I
went to rehab at craig hospital and had most my surgery’s there. I have a
colostomy, and a super pubic catheter . I was originaly fused from skull to
t1. I use a quadjoy and dragon naturally speaking/onscreen keyboard to use
the computer and vonage for a phone. For fun I play video games with my
family/friends. I use Netflix to rent  watch movies… I want a HD tv tunner
card so I can watch tv on my computer.

 

-Danny



Re: [QUAD-L] newly injured me.

2007-08-25 Thread Oconnelldb
Danny,
i'm so sorry to see you joining this list - it can mean only one thing -  you 
broke your freeking neck 
my 1wst couple years were the toughest for sure.  i started out  thinking - 
i'll walk away from this like my brother did - he shattered c5 and  had c5-6-7 
fused together - no paralysis.  doc said mine was 'different' -  i said 'ok, i 
can do DIFFERENT'  he said , 'no- REAL different.'   little did i know what 
he meant.  he meant - no walking  (and of  course no dancing, no swimming, no 
playing, no shitting, no pissing like a  normal man.. ok i hope you get the 
point.   the thing is - there  is still a lot of things i CAN do.  i had and 
raised 3 kids  ---(  _kidspage_ 
(http://members.aol.com/mmmo7734/kidspage.html)  )  who  have THEIR KIDS -- (  
_Dave   Patty's Grandkids_ 
(http://ocgrands.com/)   )  i have a story -- (_Dave's story_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/story.html)  )   AND a life --( _Dave's  
Broken Van_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dv/)  ).   DO NOT GIVE UP.   this is a 
fight you  chose to 
fight --(_Dave's  Philosophy_ 
(http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/dbocphol.html#Am%20I%20paying%20for)  )  
don't think you are here by accident or maybe GOD 
hates  you, he doesn't.  you are because you chose to be here, now do what 
needs  doing,.
GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIEND - YOU ARE ONE OF US AND WE ARE BLESSED.
DAVE
 



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