Re: 8.1 boot floppy - how?
On 28 Jan 2003, Todd Felmly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New idea!... Since the sunrise extension is working on the 8.0 boot floppy (it's detecting the drive), I think the OS can't read the format of the CD. The CD is an ISO9660 disc and I see an extension on the HD that says ISO9660 ... I put this extension which was marked as being an 8.1 file onto the 8.0 disc and it didn't work probably due to the differences in version numbers. I found an older one on Apples FTP site which I will try tomorrow (bed time now). Sound possible? You mentioned earlier that you just need some way to get your NEC 3x cdrom drive to work. You need the NEC 3x drivers. You don't have these? I have an external 3x NEC CD ROM and this works fine on 8.1 and with the NEC drivers installed onto a boot floppy, so I am able to reinstall or update (or downdate) software from CD ROM in this way. Mike. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Off Quadra posting--best list?
At 2:08 AM -0800 on 01/26/03, E McCann wittily wrote: At 10:40 PM 1/25/2003, Denny Davis typed thusly: I have a Quadra which is why I am here, I also have a G3 running 8.6. My question what list is the best for the G3 questions I have? Would that be the G3 List? What is the subscribe info for that? This is a native G3 (beige, blue and white, imac?) You would want the G-list. I am not sure what it is exactly, how would I find out? I think it is a Beige Desktop G3 · To subscribe, send email to · [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And as mentioned later, it's really a list for what I called native G3/4s, not upgraded Powermacs. If it's an upgrade, you probably want to look into PCI Powermacs (or 1st Powermacs, if it's a G3-upgraded 61-, 71-, or 8100.) HTH, Eric +=+=+= I'm sure we can all pull together, sir. Oh, I do hope not, I really do hope not. Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions. ~Terry Pratchett: The Truth -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 630 / CD Rom replacement.
Thanks E McCann, the pickle, Mark for your help, Following your advice I checked at a new computer recycler on the Gold Coast. Surprised to find he had a new looking CD Rom, same vintage as the 630, so I picked it up for 15 $ Aus. Will get back to office on Monday and try it. Thanks again, Regards, Stuart. On Tuesday, Jan 28, 2003, at 02:52 Asia/Taipei, Mark Benson wrote: On Monday, Jan 27, 2003, at 13:09 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: What CD Roms can I use in the 630? Any particular specs apart from scsi? Not really :) You are better off, if you want a CD-ROM only, replacing it with another Apple badged unit. This will ensure maximum compatibility and also that you can boot from the CD drive. It also better ensures the drive will fit the 630 (see below). Stripped Apple SCSI units are pretty easy to find on LEM Swap and places like that. Will the 630 recognise a CD RW? Yep, quite nicely. Yes, using Toast 4.1.2 or earlier. It's not really worth going much faster than 4x CD-R though as the 68k probably can't manage a CD-R much faster. My 7300/200 struggled to write to a FireWire CD-RW at more than 12x, but that might well have been the FW card that sucked :). Any precautions? They can be a bit tricky to get out, but they're not too bad. You have to be *very* careful where the rear connectors are on the CD drive for the 630. The CD drive attaches to the computer via a series of edge connectors. These plug into the power, SCSI and Audio-out ports of the CD-ROM drive. If they are more than a few mm either side of where they should be it will not fit the machine without you modify the carrier inside the machine. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 575 Mobo connector pin schematics
At 23:55 -0700 on 28/01/03, Lou Hailey wrote: I need to know which pins on the Mobo edge connector are for CD Audio In. Only way to find this out is going to be to have someone grab a 575 harness and take a look; it isn't in the Dev Tech Note :( -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: (Quadra 950 for sale by Matt)
If you wait anoter 9 years, when that machine hits 20 years old, then it will be worth probably much than you'll get for it now. However, I enjoy collecting all kinds of Macintosh systems. I never owned a 950 and would like to. I might buy it off of you if you find out shipping costs to 60527, Willowbrook Illinois. Email me back privately if you're interested. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, I am new to this group and have joined because my girlfriend has a very old Mac and I'm wondering what it would be worth to a collector. Here are the specs: System Overview: Machine: Macintosh Quadra 950 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: (Quadra 950 for sale by Matt)
At 07:19 -0600 on 29/01/03, Dan Palka wrote: If you wait anoter 9 years, when that machine hits 20 years old, then it will be worth probably much than you'll get for it now. Very unlikely, as they were produced in great numbers, unlike every other Mac that has began fetching premium prices. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: (Quadra 950 for sale by Matt)
In a message dated 1/29/03 5:26:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you wait anoter 9 years, when that [ Q950 ] hits 20 years old, then it will be worth probably much than you'll get for it now. Very unlikely, as they were produced in great numbers, unlike every other Mac that has began fetching premium prices. Q950s are so common here in Cupertino that the liquidators can't give them away. Of several dozen which were received by one of Sunnyvale's largest liquidators, the infamous Weird Stuff Warehouse, a few were sold at the initial asking price of $29.95, many more were sold at the reduced asking price of $19.95, a few were sold at the final reduced price of $7.95, and the remaining machines, about one-half of the total, were sent to the recycler. Hell, the mobo or the PSU alone are worth $7.95. But, still no takers, hence the trip to Quadra Motel ... the Mac goes in, but it doesn't come out. On a lucky day, you can sometimes pick up a 9150/120, complete, for $45. With these market realities, and the fact that a 950-sized machine costs about $40, and up, to ship, it is doubtful that these machines will ever fetch a premium. Not that these aren't great machines. They are. It's just that there is an oversupply of these, so there's nothing special about them. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
remote e-mail access
I need to access a certain e-mail account from home. It says that I need Outlook Web Access. Is there anything that would run on my Performa 575 (OS 7.6.1) that would let me do that? I specifically need to be able access the calendar information. thanks, jim -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: remote e-mail access
Have you tried Microsoft Outlook 4.0 68k? I need to access a certain e-mail account from home. It says that I need Outlook Web Access. Is there anything that would run on my Performa 575 (OS 7.6.1) that would let me do that? I specifically need to be able access the calendar information. thanks, jim -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quad collectability
Very unlikely, as they were produced in great numbers, unlike every other Mac that has began fetching premium prices. -- the pickle So are there actually production numbers available for the various Mac models? One can roughly estimate, sure, but is there any source for exact numbers produced? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
cables needed?
Hi all, I bought second-hand a TV card and a video-in card (both will eventually be installed in a Perrforma 630), but the cards came without any cables. Can anyone tell me what sort of cables they should have come with, and whether the cables are standard in any way (i.e. can be bought off the shelf as parts)? TIA Mike -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quad collectability
I don't know if there are actually production numbers available out there in the www... I think the pickle is referring to: 1. Time of production Most Quadra models were produced for business users for an extended period of time, so models like the 950 and the 700 are pretty common. Their prices reflect this... 2. Limited editions Ferinstance... the Twentieth Anniversary Mac was only produced in small numbers, so it's pretty nice if you can find one. I'm totally kicking myself over that one... I worked at Claris about that time and could have picked one up for a song. 3. Top of the line Anytime you have a model at the top of the speed charts, it's probably at least a little collectable. 4. Oddities This is where you'll find the real cool ones. MacTV (built-in TV,) TAM (upright form factor,) Quadra 605/LC475 (very small footprint,) and the Cube (Ooohh factor) all fall into this category. These might be a little more collectable than the run of the mill machines. My Old stuff collection consists of: SE/30 (128 MB RAM, 32-bit clean ROM) (fastest compact Mac) IIfx (32 MB RAM) (fastest 030 Mac) 950 (256 MB RAM + 256 MB Nubus RAM Disk) (Most expandable 040 Mac) 840AV (96 MB RAM) (fastest 040 Mac) PB100 (first real portable Mac) LC475 (really tiny footprint) You can see why I got mine... collecting is a personal thing for many of us... it's not just based on how many or how valuable... ;) smiles, Jamie On 1/29/03 4:21 PM, Mark Koan [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Very unlikely, as they were produced in great numbers, unlike every other Mac that has began fetching premium prices. -- the pickle So are there actually production numbers available for the various Mac models? One can roughly estimate, sure, but is there any source for exact numbers produced? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 boot floppy - how?
At 09:35 -0500 on 29/01/03, Todd Felmly wrote: I didn't do it and I am only trying to get it to work. If all it takes is getting a legal copy of the OS that I'll do that. OK, since this is a copy That should work fine, yes. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra floppy drive
At 21:20 -0500 on 29/01/03, Todd Felmly wrote: My Quadra 700 floppy drive died tonight (partly my fault). The model of it is MP-F75W-12G (Sony 2MB). I see on ebay someone is selling a MP-F75W-11G (Sony 2mb). What is the difference between the two? Will the 11G fit my Quad 700? If it has the black anti-dust door, you may have problems with alignment of the slot. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra floppy drive
Funny you should ask. The 11G was used in a lot of IIci's. In fact, I have the one from my IIci out at the moment (gotta get another PRAM battery and a PS, then reassemble the thing), and it's the 11G version. I learned early on with one of my Macs to keep a floppy disk partially inserted, to prevent dust from being sucked into the drive. -J Todd Felmly wrote: My Quadra 700 floppy drive died tonight (partly my fault). The model of it is MP-F75W-12G (Sony 2MB). I see on ebay someone is selling a MP-F75W-11G (Sony 2mb). What is the difference between the two? Will the 11G fit my Quad 700? Todd -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cables needed?
My Reply follows quote. On 29/01/2003 16:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Evans) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I bought second-hand a TV card and a video-in card (both will eventually be installed in a Perrforma 630), but the cards came without any cables. Can anyone tell me what sort of cables they should have come with, and whether the cables are standard in any way (i.e. can be bought off the shelf as parts)? TIA Mike - Well, can't speak specifically to the 630, but I believe that everything you need is already part of the case. The card itself just goes in the slot provided on the logic board. The TV module is installed in a bay above the logic board with the coax connector protruding through the knock-out hole in the back cover. When you open the bay, there is a flat cable just laying inside, ready for use. At least this is true for the 6200/6300 series of which I have several and they use the same case as the 630. Ken Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra floppy drive
In a message dated 1/29/03 6:21:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... The model of it is MP-F75W-12G (Sony 2MB). I see on ebay someone is selling a MP-F75W-11G (Sony 2mb) ... The MPF-75W is the basic model number. The 11G and 12G are revision codes. If Sony's revision coding is anythin like some other Japanese companies I am familiar with, the 11 and 12 indicates the artwork number (or mechanical drawing number) and the G indicates the form, fit and function compatibility code. IOW, the 11 and 12 are not relevant, as long as the letter in the G position is the same. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com