Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Tyler Hardison
Yes, and it may be difficult to find however I'll give you a hint:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=%22A%2FUX%22

Please keep in mind that A/UX is a copyrighted product (even though
its ancient) and you should take caution.

Tyler

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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Sque


J Sand wrote:

Is AUX Apple's version of Unix, and if so, where to find a copy of it?
  


It's not hard to find but what are you going to do with it?

After not being able to to install it for lack of an external cd drive I 
used the partitions for Debian. Very impressed with what it can do and 
how easy it was to setup.  Booting into Gnome or running Mozilla is 
probably not the best option when running on a 25mhz mac, trust me.. Its 
quite good with command line stuff or using a basic X window/Debian 
session. So its handy to have a little bit of linux knowledge.

I'm not trying to compare AUX to Debian as I really have no idea whether 
anyone, anywhere actually supports AUX and since I've never installed it 
I have no idea what its capable of. Linux and BSD are atleast actively 
supported for 68k macs and up and are also freely available.

Just out of interest, I have no real use for Debian on the quadra 
either, just an interest to see what runs and how well. It might make a 
handy hub for my nic-less 68k machines to telenet to or something, 
though the scsi-enet adapters kinda get round the need. Other than that, 
the joy of booting 6 completely different machines and having them all 
play happily together speaking the same language is another plus, again 
for no reason other than seeing what can be done.

The MacOS is really the best general purpose OS for a Quadra unless you 
have a need that can't be filled, at least that's what I've found so 
far. Don't let that stop you from playing. :)

If you have a broadband connection, most free unix-like systems install 
completely from the net, even the 68k ones, yeah I'm a newbie but it was 
real fun.



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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Scott Holder
At 04:04 PM 1/8/2003 +1100, you wrote:


J Sand wrote:

 Is AUX Apple's version of Unix, and if so, where to find a copy of it?
 
 

It's not hard to find but what are you going to do with it?
snip
I'm not trying to compare AUX to Debian as I really have no idea whether
anyone, anywhere actually supports AUX and since I've never installed it
I have no idea what its capable of. Linux and BSD are atleast actively
supported for 68k macs and up and are also freely available.

Well, the big thing about AUX is while being UNIX, it still supports 99% of 
System 7 compatible software, and even a good fraction of 
extensions/control panels. Unfortunately, it's now a rather old Unix, but 
it's still Unix. It also has the familiar, friendly Macintosh interface. It 
really is very much like OS X for 68ks, minus all the pretty stuff. It even 
has a / partition. It really was an innovation, if Apple had kept with it 
and developed it they'd have killed Win95 before it got anywhere. That, and 
dropped the price a bit.

That said, for useful work, I can strongly endorse Debian. I am running two 
Quadra 605s (upgraded to 33mhz '040s) and a 840AV with Debian doing 
serving. The 840AV does about 7-10 gigs of uploading a week alone without 
breaking a sweat.

I'm working on getting AUX running again on my 50mhz IIci, but am having 
trouble booting the installer and mounting the CD at the same time. It 
worked before, so I don't know what's up, but oh well...

Scott Holder


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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread J Sand

Just curiosity about all the things macs are capable of.  I didn't know that 
they were even capable on running a Linux style of OS, but then again, any 
OS is just a bunch of assembler level instructions.  I didn't know that 
anyone had written a Linux OS with the instruction set for the 68k series 
of microprocessors.


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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Ian Moffatt
On 8/1/03 6:04 am, Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have a broadband connection, most free unix-like systems install
 completely from the net, even the 68k ones, yeah I'm a newbie but it was
 real fun.

Can you give me a pointer to those?

I've been wanting to try that on one of the drives in my Q950 but get lost
with all the tar/gzip/gnu stuff

Cheers

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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Scott Holder
At 11:08 PM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:

Just curiosity about all the things macs are capable of.  I didn't know that
they were even capable on running a Linux style of OS, but then again, any
OS is just a bunch of assembler level instructions.  I didn't know that
anyone had written a Linux OS with the instruction set for the 68k series
of microprocessors.

Linux runs on just about anything, these days. Someone successfully booted 
it on the microcontroller of a laptop keyboard. It was a bit of a trick in 
the 68k Mac case due to the lack of hardware documentation for lots of the 
custom chips. The way it was done was using the MacOS to initialize and set 
up the hardware, then boot to Linux from there. Still no sound or floppy 
support, but it runs very well overall.

Scott Holder


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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread J Sand

Looks like Linux is an OS that is going to require my attention to being a 
worthy thing to study.  Thanks.

John

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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Scott Holder
At 11:30 PM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:

Looks like Linux is an OS that is going to require my attention to being a
worthy thing to study.  Thanks.

John

Definitely. My Quadras running Linux are doing what Microsoft says I need a 
much faster PC running Win2k to do ;) And all for free, too.

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Re: AUX ?

2003-01-07 Thread Sque
Ian Moffatt wrote:

Can you give me a pointer to those?

I've been wanting to try that on one of the drives in my Q950 but get lost
with all the tar/gzip/gnu stuff
  

ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/debian/dists
is a good spot for my local.
Very little un-stuffing to do, 1 .sit file. I had the partions already
made with setup7.3.5 i think.
Look for ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/debian/dists/stable/main
ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-m68k/current
for the stuff needed for the install and mac readme, once you have those
bits the installer will find the rest on the net, well in my case.
Most public ftp severs carry Debian, there should be one close to you
with ruffly the same path.





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