Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Darren Siepka]

The ecoboost conversion is detailed on the quantumproboard group

https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/1017/2-rebuild-ecoboost-conversion

Darren

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 15:48 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

>
> Somebody is doing the Ecoboost conversion, i can’t remember if it was on
> here or on the facebook group (the open one, not the QOC members only one).
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group
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> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
>
>
> I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if
> you can stomach the extra cost per litre.
>
>
>
> But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine
> rather than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
>
> Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus,
> I’m thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of
> those in a Q yet?
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
>
> Matthew
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Darren Siepka]

That's my understanding too, metal fuel tanks, hoses and seals are the
worst affected.example seals would be o rings and gaskets ( manifold
perhaps if rubber type?) . Also construction of some units such as level
sender as they have mixed metal and other materials.
Darren

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:56 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group, <
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> I've not extensively looked into this, but isn't the issue more related to
> the rubber hoses than anything else?  I thought the higher Ethanol content
> will cause older rubber hoses to break down faster, but newer rubber hoses
> should be OK.
>
> This is from the RAC website, not sure what seals will be affected, but
> our metal fuel tanks might be prone to internal corrosion.
>
> "*If you put E10 fuel in an incompatible car it will still run, but
> seals, plastics and metals may be damaged over longer periods as a result
> of bioethanol's corrosive properties. It is a hygroscopic, which means it
> absorbs water from the atmosphere, leading to condensation in fuel tanks if
> the car remains unused for long periods of time.*"
>
> Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> On 01/09/2021 09:45, Jim Hearne wrote:
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> Hi All,
> Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and
> silver top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[susanandmartin]

I bought some ethanol proof hose last week from Car Builder Solutions, having 
tried local outlets………. Beware, that (certainly in my experience) some vendors 
seem to either have no knowledge or not care about what they are selling or the 
consequences of ethanol in petrol. Geoff has his experience, and I have similar 
(hose failure on Rickman the day after MOT test!). ‘Guidance’ from local motor 
factor was “yes, that’s the hose you want, it’s ok with petrol or diesel” when 
I specifically asked for hose that was ok with petrol containing ethanol. The 
local ‘motorsport’ (ie go faster Vauxhall saloon – carlos fandango wheels) 
garage, said “this hose is ok – we don’t know anyone who’s had problems with 
it, just use super unleaded” when trying to sell me a hose which just said 
Gates 8mm on it.
*** It needs to be to spec SAEJ30 R9 or DIN73379 (which should be 
marked repeatedly on the hose)
Martin Scott

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From: Hans Defauwes
Sent: 01 September 2021 19:46
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I only use Super Unleaded E5
 
E10 kills your CV engine. It affects hoses, gaskets and even alu. incl. the 
carburettor floaters.
You can buy special fuel hoses but the carb and its gaskets can still be a 
problem
 
Hans
 
Or you make E0 yourself.
20L petrol, 1 liter of water mixed with food colour, Mix/shake. Let is stand 
for have a day and drain the colour liquid and you have Petrol without Alcohol
Ideal when you store your QSC for longer periods like winter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mLbuUSt-0 
 
 
From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
 
I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.
 
But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?
 
Best
 
Matthew
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Hans Defauwes]

I only use Super Unleaded E5

E10 kills your CV engine. It affects hoses, gaskets and even alu. incl. the 
carburettor floaters.
You can buy special fuel hoses but the carb and its gaskets can still be a 
problem

Hans

Or you make E0 yourself.
20L petrol, 1 liter of water mixed with food colour, Mix/shake. Let is stand 
for have a day and drain the colour liquid and you have Petrol without Alcohol
Ideal when you store your QSC for longer periods like winter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9mLbuUSt-0 


From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

 

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 

Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

 

Best

 

Matthew

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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[susanandmartin]

I thought I would like a 1.25 Sigma, but I’m sure the exhaust manifold would 
cook the bulkhead! Ecoboost may be the same position, I don’t know anything 
about them TBF.
Martin

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From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 01 September 2021 15:37
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

Best

Matthew
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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[susanandmartin]

There has been controversy over Ethanol, arguments for are that the crop 
(rapeseed?) removes CO2 and provides O2, arguments against are stating that 
land should be used for food crops, not fuel.
As always, no everyone will be happy. Back in 1989, Ford/New Holland tractors 
where I worked at the time were making tractor for Brazil which run on 100 % 
Ethanol.
Maybe we are fortunate, it could be worse?
Martin

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From: bill
Sent: 01 September 2021 12:20
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m sure all this e10 nonsense is just a part of the box ticking for climate 
change. I hear that when using e10 the fuel economy goes down so you’d probably 
have to burn as much fossil fuel as part of the e10 fuel-to do a distance as 
you would if you only used pure fossil fuel, the ethanol only seems to go along 
for the ride
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On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:48, Jim Hearne  wrote:
 
I looked there, just says all Fords post 1992 are ok (i guess that covers 
Zetecs) apart from a specific 1.8 Mondeo for some reason.
 
Jim
From: 'bobbycraigis' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:45 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
 
I'm sure I saw info on this on one of the kit car Facebook groups and there was 
DVLA guidance on line about it. At work just now so don't have time to look.
 
 
 
Sent from my Galaxy
 
 
 Original message 
From: Andy Heaton  
Date: 01/09/2021 11:36 (GMT+00:00) 
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol. 
 
Not yet Jim. 
 
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All, 
Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver top 
Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
 
Thanks,
 
Jim
 
 
 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Jim Hearne]

I think this is the Ecoboost conversion.
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10220481790856847=gm.10159471108168114

Jim


From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

 

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 

Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

 

Best

 

Matthew

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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Derek Clews]

I found my coupe with the 2 litre injected did more to the gallon and just 
about covered the cost and it was smoother.  So I only use super/high octane 
petrol now.  

Derek

> On 1 Sep 2021, at 15:37, mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group 
>  wrote:
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> I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
> can stomach the extra cost per litre.
>  
> But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine 
> rather than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
> Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
> thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in 
> a Q yet?
>  
> Best
>  
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Jim Hearne]

Somebody is doing the Ecoboost conversion, i can’t remember if it was on here 
or on the facebook group (the open one, not the QOC members only one).

Jim


From: mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

 

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 

Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

 

Best

 

Matthew

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RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group]

I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if you 
can stomach the extra cost per litre.

 

But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine rather 
than drink watered down E10 petrol. 

Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus, I’m 
thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of those in a 
Q yet?

 

Best

 

Matthew

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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[bill]

I’m sure all this e10 nonsense is just a part of the box ticking for climate 
change. I hear that when using e10 the fuel economy goes down so you’d probably 
have to burn as much fossil fuel as part of the e10 fuel-to do a distance as 
you would if you only used pure fossil fuel, the ethanol only seems to go along 
for the ride

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:48, Jim Hearne  wrote:


I looked there, just says all Fords post 1992 are ok (i guess that covers 
Zetecs) apart from a specific 1.8 Mondeo for some reason.

Jim
From: 'bobbycraigis' via Quantum Owners Group
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To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I'm sure I saw info on this on one of the kit car Facebook groups and there was 
DVLA guidance on line about it. At work just now so don't have time to look.



Sent from my Galaxy


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From: Andy Heaton 
Date: 01/09/2021 11:36 (GMT+00:00)
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

Not yet Jim.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
Hi All,
Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver top 
Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?

Thanks,

Jim



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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Jim Hearne]

I looked there, just says all Fords post 1992 are ok (i guess that covers 
Zetecs) apart from a specific 1.8 Mondeo for some reason.
Jim
From: 'bobbycraigis' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I'm sure I saw info on this on one of the kit car Facebook groups and there was 
DVLA guidance on line about it. At work just now so don't have time to look.



Sent from my Galaxy


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Date: 01/09/2021 11:36 (GMT+00:00) 
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol. 

Not yet Jim. 

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

  Hi All, 
  Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver 
top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
  Thanks,
  Jim
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

['bobbycraigis' via Quantum Owners Group]

I'm sure I saw info on this on one of the kit car Facebook groups and there was 
DVLA guidance on line about it. At work just now so don't have time to 
look.Sent from my Galaxy
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Date: 01/09/2021  11:36  (GMT+00:00) To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol. Not yet Jim. On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 
09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:





Hi 
All, 

Has 
anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver top 
Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

 

 



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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Andy Heaton]

Not yet Jim.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> Hi All,
> Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and
> silver top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Jim Hearne]

I’m not sure if it’s just the hoses.
I think it can also affect seals in fuel pump, fuel pressure regulators and 
injectors etc.
I seem to remember E5 petrol had a very bad effect on the seals in the old 
Jetronic metering units as used in the Escort XR3I and RS Turbo

I guess i should probably replace the flexible rubber pipe in the 2+2, that 
will still be whatever was around when i built it in the 90’s !
My local garage has already switched to E10

Jim



From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 9:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

I've not extensively looked into this, but isn't the issue more related to the 
rubber hoses than anything else?  I thought the higher Ethanol content will 
cause older rubber hoses to break down faster, but newer rubber hoses should be 
OK.

This is from the RAC website, not sure what seals will be affected, but our 
metal fuel tanks might be prone to internal corrosion.

"If you put E10 fuel in an incompatible car it will still run, but seals, 
plastics and metals may be damaged over longer periods as a result of 
bioethanol's corrosive properties. It is a hygroscopic, which means it absorbs 
water from the atmosphere, leading to condensation in fuel tanks if the car 
remains unused for long periods of time."


Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

Regards,
Steve


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top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

['Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group]

I've not extensively looked into this, but isn't the issue more related 
to the rubber hoses than anything else?  I thought the higher Ethanol 
content will cause older rubber hoses to break down faster, but newer 
rubber hoses should be OK.


This is from the RAC website, not sure what seals will be affected, but 
our metal fuel tanks might be prone to internal corrosion.


"/If you put E10 fuel in an incompatible car it will still run, but 
seals, plastics and metals may be damaged over longer periods as a 
result of bioethanol's corrosive properties. It is a hygroscopic, which 
means it absorbs water from the atmosphere, leading to condensation in 
fuel tanks if the car remains unused for long periods of time./"


Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.

Regards,
Steve

On 01/09/2021 09:45, Jim Hearne wrote:

Hi All,
Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and 
silver top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?

Thanks,
Jim
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[Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Jim Hearne]

Hi All, 
Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and silver top 
Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
Thanks,
Jim

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