Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 09:30:37AM +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > > As for Qubes 3.2.1 - exactly as Reg said - it's blocked on 4.9 kernel > > > testing. > > does it not make sense to anyone else that at the least the testing > > image should also be released to get more eyes on it > Packages are in testing repository - just enable it and help us. I think it would be useful to send a dedicated short email, subject "please help testing 3.2.1 - howto included" and then indeed include the few steps needed to do so. currently that information is very well hidden… (and it doesnt help that there are several "testing" repositories…) -- cheers, Holger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20170619101122.GD1321%40layer-acht.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Góreckiwrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:28:18AM +0200, Outback Dingo wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Reg Tiangha >> wrote: >> > On 2017-06-19 1:32 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Packages are in testing repository - just enable it and help us. >> >> >> >> >> >>> what part of qubes doesnt run on my laptop for the past year did you >> >>> miss ?? :) >> >>> id help if i could... is there an iso i can attempt to install to get >> >>> past the net issue? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > If you have access to another computer and a USB flash drive, you can >> > download the kernel and kernel-qubes-vm packages on that machine and use >> > the flash drive to copy it over to your laptop. >> > >> > https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/kernel-4.9.31-17.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm >> > https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/kernel-qubes-vm-4.9.31-17.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm >> > >> > Scroll to the bottom to learn how to copy from a VM to Dom0: >> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ >> > >> > Otherwise, you can use qubes-builder on a Fedora 23 machine to create a >> > custom ISO that should incorporate the latest packages in the >> > repositories, although I'm not sure how to force it to grab the 4.9 >> > kernel from the current-testing repository (although maybe it does that >> > automatically now; I haven't tried in a while): >> > >> > >> >> m seems not >> -> Updating sources for core-libvirt... >> --> Fetching from https://github.com/marmarek/qubes-core-libvirt.git >> release3.2... >> fatal: Remote branch release3.2 not found in upstream origin >> make: *** [Makefile:187: core-libvirt.get-sources] Error 1 > > Set builder to use QubesOS github account (GIT_PREFIX=QubesOS/qubes-). I > don't keep all the stable branches on my account. ok lastly how can i specifiy a F25 dom0 > > - -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZR41TAAoJENuP0xzK19cshkIH/3FJ7gNuOYiQl8HYgdLeSgZd > 6XvQS3IqSR1vc1Qp3bwFtzjBilEHJm2PEtHbq8eANepef29xw9QiobdQMILKexCJ > /OjIJO0/WDAASXkIv+zmiTljvUGjZZr25sqQUJfWu5Ex33I2QTDaR3Wg7kzi8bm3 > H4GRNykNFTNlmnj+xSvNvThIjKYMrkjAo+4UMzRFdfkZSYLGLpzl/aUa+dng8X+b > U9/YQTbtHLcAUwQiLlQ20jyK2FNHDMqV8IQrGg9FXD3n+QW0kcLlHwDtAISr+gR/ > xIXP7ALRu3Cz0fMBDqkFpS40Y8riKgzgEtP854EFDQTq9b8/0U1fPtzMrZERyRA= > =EXXv > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CAKYr3zyv%3Do_ACekMrNWQ_DUTyRJ_jFQc20d2xRvBwQbyDWUpyQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:28:18AM +0200, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Reg Tianghawrote: > > On 2017-06-19 1:32 AM, Outback Dingo wrote: > > > >> > >> Packages are in testing repository - just enable it and help us. > >> > >> > >>> what part of qubes doesnt run on my laptop for the past year did you miss > >>> ?? :) > >>> id help if i could... is there an iso i can attempt to install to get > >>> past the net issue? > >> > >> > >> > > > > If you have access to another computer and a USB flash drive, you can > > download the kernel and kernel-qubes-vm packages on that machine and use > > the flash drive to copy it over to your laptop. > > > > https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/kernel-4.9.31-17.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm > > https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/kernel-qubes-vm-4.9.31-17.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm > > > > Scroll to the bottom to learn how to copy from a VM to Dom0: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ > > > > Otherwise, you can use qubes-builder on a Fedora 23 machine to create a > > custom ISO that should incorporate the latest packages in the > > repositories, although I'm not sure how to force it to grab the 4.9 > > kernel from the current-testing repository (although maybe it does that > > automatically now; I haven't tried in a while): > > > > > > m seems not > -> Updating sources for core-libvirt... > --> Fetching from https://github.com/marmarek/qubes-core-libvirt.git > release3.2... > fatal: Remote branch release3.2 not found in upstream origin > make: *** [Makefile:187: core-libvirt.get-sources] Error 1 Set builder to use QubesOS github account (GIT_PREFIX=QubesOS/qubes-). I don't keep all the stable branches on my account. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZR41TAAoJENuP0xzK19cshkIH/3FJ7gNuOYiQl8HYgdLeSgZd 6XvQS3IqSR1vc1Qp3bwFtzjBilEHJm2PEtHbq8eANepef29xw9QiobdQMILKexCJ /OjIJO0/WDAASXkIv+zmiTljvUGjZZr25sqQUJfWu5Ex33I2QTDaR3Wg7kzi8bm3 H4GRNykNFTNlmnj+xSvNvThIjKYMrkjAo+4UMzRFdfkZSYLGLpzl/aUa+dng8X+b U9/YQTbtHLcAUwQiLlQ20jyK2FNHDMqV8IQrGg9FXD3n+QW0kcLlHwDtAISr+gR/ xIXP7ALRu3Cz0fMBDqkFpS40Y8riKgzgEtP854EFDQTq9b8/0U1fPtzMrZERyRA= =EXXv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20170619083739.GP1268%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Góreckiwrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 09:08:00AM +0200, Outback Dingo wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki >> wrote: >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA256 >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:39:08PM -0600, Reg Tiangha wrote: >> >> On 06/15/2017 05:12 PM, pixel fairy wrote: >> >> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, Reg Tiangha wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could >> >> > attempt >> >> > to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. >> >> > It's >> >> > unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling >> >> > Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > why stuck with fc23? thought marek had built fc25, but was having >> >> > trouble with fc26 >> >> > -- >> >> > >> >> Will they update dom0 in R3.2 to FC25? It'd be great if they did, but I >> >> was under the impression that FC25 in dom0 was an R4.0 only thing. If >> >> I'm wrong, that'd be fantastic. >> > >> > R3.2 will stay at fc23 in dom0. There may be fc26 template, but there >> > are issues (build failures of Xen, because of much newer gcc). >> > >> > Dom0 in Qubes 4.0 is based on fc25. >> > >> > As for Qubes 3.2.1 - exactly as Reg said - it's blocked on 4.9 kernel >> > testing. >> >> does it not make sense to anyone else that at the least the testing >> image should also be released to get more eyes on it > > Packages are in testing repository - just enable it and help us. what part of qubes doesnt run on my laptop for the past year did you miss ?? :) id help if i could... is there an iso i can attempt to install to get past the net issue? > > - -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZR32eAAoJENuP0xzK19cs/J4H/3FwSOy3AVzbFW0AjjnaRjZx > vXjgcNHQWuDTE1TZdUAvXoqwgPJIjDd5+XjNcyvdB+6+gqEpoX2RHlFFxy2iR0Ng > DLdzN3NdUfBJeQ2nsxPRiKzq8+FayeZm7ZfmdxDEPl2stHpmlrIu8dIWVD+bW5Ys > E/m73FmIwYMWNq4yM2SegaXitdgmRNujtp6KtE9g92SpRfen+K1c0LZuFt/U+PVd > hH2i5JQkIxuTLHm4x6fAXk4lzpprQbCQACp0AOupKlspapn+Cu4ZdRsGtTXW0wyl > rPLFDSY6FQbzY4x6jjUBNqmUWtDUf33INpUDIBGehqFXewdMMiEWy33/9Pp8Rw8= > =T67t > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CAKYr3zw3JvPrgeu-D0Sb2%3DREOW0-LfZKuh1hTeNrFTa%2BORG1Dw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 09:08:00AM +0200, Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki >wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:39:08PM -0600, Reg Tiangha wrote: > >> On 06/15/2017 05:12 PM, pixel fairy wrote: > >> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, Reg Tiangha wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could > >> > attempt > >> > to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. > >> > It's > >> > unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling > >> > Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. > >> > > >> > > >> > why stuck with fc23? thought marek had built fc25, but was having > >> > trouble with fc26 > >> > -- > >> > > >> Will they update dom0 in R3.2 to FC25? It'd be great if they did, but I > >> was under the impression that FC25 in dom0 was an R4.0 only thing. If > >> I'm wrong, that'd be fantastic. > > > > R3.2 will stay at fc23 in dom0. There may be fc26 template, but there > > are issues (build failures of Xen, because of much newer gcc). > > > > Dom0 in Qubes 4.0 is based on fc25. > > > > As for Qubes 3.2.1 - exactly as Reg said - it's blocked on 4.9 kernel > > testing. > > does it not make sense to anyone else that at the least the testing > image should also be released to get more eyes on it Packages are in testing repository - just enable it and help us. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZR32eAAoJENuP0xzK19cs/J4H/3FwSOy3AVzbFW0AjjnaRjZx vXjgcNHQWuDTE1TZdUAvXoqwgPJIjDd5+XjNcyvdB+6+gqEpoX2RHlFFxy2iR0Ng DLdzN3NdUfBJeQ2nsxPRiKzq8+FayeZm7ZfmdxDEPl2stHpmlrIu8dIWVD+bW5Ys E/m73FmIwYMWNq4yM2SegaXitdgmRNujtp6KtE9g92SpRfen+K1c0LZuFt/U+PVd hH2i5JQkIxuTLHm4x6fAXk4lzpprQbCQACp0AOupKlspapn+Cu4ZdRsGtTXW0wyl rPLFDSY6FQbzY4x6jjUBNqmUWtDUf33INpUDIBGehqFXewdMMiEWy33/9Pp8Rw8= =T67t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20170619073037.GN1268%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Góreckiwrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:39:08PM -0600, Reg Tiangha wrote: >> On 06/15/2017 05:12 PM, pixel fairy wrote: >> > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, Reg Tiangha wrote: >> > >> > >> > We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could >> > attempt >> > to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. >> > It's >> > unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling >> > Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. >> > >> > >> > why stuck with fc23? thought marek had built fc25, but was having >> > trouble with fc26 >> > -- >> > >> Will they update dom0 in R3.2 to FC25? It'd be great if they did, but I >> was under the impression that FC25 in dom0 was an R4.0 only thing. If >> I'm wrong, that'd be fantastic. > > R3.2 will stay at fc23 in dom0. There may be fc26 template, but there > are issues (build failures of Xen, because of much newer gcc). > > Dom0 in Qubes 4.0 is based on fc25. > > As for Qubes 3.2.1 - exactly as Reg said - it's blocked on 4.9 kernel > testing. does it not make sense to anyone else that at the least the testing image should also be released to get more eyes on it curious that everything is starting to lag behind, and i know its a small team and alot of work. however... when i want software to be tested i generally release an RC image so everyone can hammer away at it, and if theres a fed25 dom0 / iso anywhere id like to test it, as 3.2 doesnt work on my laptop due to segfaults in networking in the netvm, mentioned before... its been what a year since i cant use qubes > > - -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZRrWmAAoJENuP0xzK19csjssH/3U83Hi4Bud4q7dPFw+6/y6B > KkLmTPCcJzrCj7rYHErtxG1DjSJKGdZtFcSMJXUJYuZCiIzosNtwqnkhFcLcVvCJ > 8vFJST7NNBUI75xLynXQ4XlxPQyknt+pjjiAHDUBopuXcubhhFgoEiVtu766zivf > 7er8zHJpQsaZH5zasu9K3J03B8M/6wN4jeu7OhHTV1HGFUVtXFQx50KYfpFZRHng > n/FTaH/9OlFG/hghA9zBdux2iLj//uF1hj+YipUedDAYzeEyNFmnhHDuEEG8L4wv > UKRaOe1Y8YdMp5Bp2aNZIb1ix9SMaXrGpJQXemUZ3/8RRR6cqa1um0hrROTlNtA= > =qx0U > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20170618171726.GC3857%40mail-itl. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CAKYr3zx-FO%2BKWKdL_hRwaR%3D5JwDutJw-CiPEV0ZF1XL0gm%2ByLQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:39:08PM -0600, Reg Tiangha wrote: > On 06/15/2017 05:12 PM, pixel fairy wrote: > > On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, Reg Tiangha wrote: > > > > > > We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could > > attempt > > to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. > > It's > > unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling > > Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. > > > > > > why stuck with fc23? thought marek had built fc25, but was having > > trouble with fc26 > > -- > > > Will they update dom0 in R3.2 to FC25? It'd be great if they did, but I > was under the impression that FC25 in dom0 was an R4.0 only thing. If > I'm wrong, that'd be fantastic. R3.2 will stay at fc23 in dom0. There may be fc26 template, but there are issues (build failures of Xen, because of much newer gcc). Dom0 in Qubes 4.0 is based on fc25. As for Qubes 3.2.1 - exactly as Reg said - it's blocked on 4.9 kernel testing. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZRrWmAAoJENuP0xzK19csjssH/3U83Hi4Bud4q7dPFw+6/y6B KkLmTPCcJzrCj7rYHErtxG1DjSJKGdZtFcSMJXUJYuZCiIzosNtwqnkhFcLcVvCJ 8vFJST7NNBUI75xLynXQ4XlxPQyknt+pjjiAHDUBopuXcubhhFgoEiVtu766zivf 7er8zHJpQsaZH5zasu9K3J03B8M/6wN4jeu7OhHTV1HGFUVtXFQx50KYfpFZRHng n/FTaH/9OlFG/hghA9zBdux2iLj//uF1hj+YipUedDAYzeEyNFmnhHDuEEG8L4wv UKRaOe1Y8YdMp5Bp2aNZIb1ix9SMaXrGpJQXemUZ3/8RRR6cqa1um0hrROTlNtA= =qx0U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20170618171726.GC3857%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, Reg Tiangha wrote: > > > We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could attempt > to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. It's > unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling > Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. > why stuck with fc23? thought marek had built fc25, but was having trouble with fc26 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/13e281c1-8d09-415c-9d4c-3b166e919374%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-devel] Re: 3.2.1 should be released
On 06/15/2017 10:59 AM, rmjiyz...@use.startmail.com wrote: > It seems irresponsible to offer 3.2 as the latest stable version. It > is outdated, since it was released there were many critical > vulnerabilities in templates (apt bug for Debian-based templates), > Fedora 23 is not supported anymore, and there were even critical Xen > vulnerabilities that affect Qubes OS. All the templates and dom0 is > vulnerable. > > Installing 3.2 now could easily lead to compromised dom0. If I am > wrong, please correct me. > > I think 3.3 or 3.2.1 should be released before 4.0, probably 3.2.1 to > make it clear this is just a security and template update and doesn't > add any features. > There will be one, but right now, it's being held up by kernel 4.9 testing, plus Debian 9 is coming out in two days and Whonix 14 probably shortly after, so might as well wait for those to stabilize before generating a new official ISO. You can always make your own custom ISO with qubes-builder at any time, though. If it works, it'll build an ISO with all of the latest packages. We're still stuck with FC23 in dom0 though, although you could attempt to build an ISO that uses FC24 or FC25 in dom0; some people have. It's unsupported though and you're on your own when it comes to compiling Qubes updates for dom0 afterwards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/ohukt5%24obv%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.