[qubes-users] how to add another language to write with and shortcut to switch languages

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1) How can I add another language to write in the VMs?

2) Which shortcut can I use to switch between languages? If shortcut does not 
exist, how can I create it?

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Re: [qubes-users] Disk usage warning

[Chris Laprise]

On 8/12/19 7:41 PM, Franz wrote:

@Chris

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Chris Laprise > wrote:


On 8/12/19 12:03 PM, Franz wrote:
 > On the upper right corner of the screen a black message alert:
 >
 > Disk usage warning!
 > You are running out of disk space. 4.8% space left in pool lvm.
 >
 > Sometimes the message is a bit different referring to rw instead
 >
 > If I run df in dom0 all items usage Is below 24%
 >
 > So what should I do with that alert?
 >
 > IMHO these alerts are too cryptic
 > Best.

Df is completely inaccurate when Qubes 4 is using the default (lvm).

The best overall indicator to use is the disk space widget in the
systray.


Thanks, I understand you are referring to a new plugin to add to the 
panel. if you are using default Xfce. There is one called "Free Space 
Checker" .


Once installed it tells 416GB are free. So no reason for the alert here


This doesn't sound like the same tool. The Qubes disk space widget says 
'qui-disk-space' when you mouse over it, and when you click it shows 
total disk usage along with a line for 'lvm' near the bottom. If its not 
running on your systray already, you can start it manually from the 
shell by typing 'qui-disk-space'.




The best way to view individual VM disk usage is from Qube Manager.


Yes this shows disk usage for each VM , but no way to understand which 
VM may have problems.


Because Qubes is using over-provisioning, none of the individual VMs may 
have a problem per se, even though you are running out of space in the 
overall lvm storage.


If you add up the numbers shown in Qube Manager, you can get an idea of 
how each VM is contributing to the low space warning.


Also, doing an 'lvs' in the shell will show meaningful stats if you know 
what to look for (IMO, using the space widget and QM is easier).




In other words, an alert that does not tell which VM is involved have a 
sort of terror effect. You understand that something can break every 
moment, but no way to understand  where the problem is.


I doubt its designed to say which of the VMs has most recently expanded, 
if that's what you mean by "where the problem is". The basic problem is 
being aware of your total space, and how much usage each VM _should_ 
have. It may be that you forgot about disk space and unexpectedly ran 
low, so there is a decision to make whether to remove unneeded items or 
upgrade to more storage.


OTOH, maybe one or two VMs expanded beyond reasonable expectations. 
Looking inside the larger VMs with 'baobab' is the best way to start 
investigating that possibility.





To graphically examine disk usage within a VM, you can use the gnome
"Disk usage" app. The shell executable name for this is "baobab".


This can be done if you already know which VM has problems. But starting 
tens of VMs  fishing for the one with problems seems too much. Also I 
suspect that those black alert messages in the upper right corner of the 
screen are related to dom0, rather than to specific VMs.


In QM, click on the 'Disk Usage' column heading and it will sort the VMs 
by disk space used. That should point you in the right direction and 
maybe you'll only need to look at the 2-3 of the largest VMs.




So from my viewpoint these alerts have no practical use, other then 
remembering that computers are a fragile thing  and that it may be time 
to do a backup.

Best


The practical part is that you know you should avoid activities that 
would use (significant) additional disk space, such as downloading or 
duplicating large files... at least until you've cleared out some space 
or added more storage. Its not terribly unlike a regular disk warning, 
only instead of just files it is VMs+files you have to think about.


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Re: [qubes-users] Disk usage warning

[brendan . hoar]

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:41:47 PM UTC-4, Francesco wrote:
>
> @Chris
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Chris Laprise  > wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/19 12:03 PM, Franz wrote:
>> > On the upper right corner of the screen a black message alert:
>> > 
>> > Disk usage warning!
>> > You are running out of disk space. 4.8% space left in pool lvm. 
>>
> > So what should I do with that alert?
>>
>> Df is completely inaccurate when Qubes 4 is using the default (lvm).
>>
>> The best overall indicator to use is the disk space widget in the systray.
>>
>
> Thanks, I understand you are referring to a new plugin to add to the 
> panel. if you are using default Xfce. There is one called "Free Space 
> Checker" . 
>

No, there should already be one running in the upper right called "Qubes 
Disk Space Monitor". 
 

> The best way to view individual VM disk usage is from Qube Manager.
>
> Yes this shows disk usage for each VM , but no way to understand which VM 
> may have problems.
>
> In other words, an alert that does not tell which VM is involved have a 
> sort of terror effect. You understand that something can break every 
> moment, but no way to understand  where the problem is.
>

My general recommendation is:

1. Use the following to show the data usage in your thin pool (it should 
give the same percent as the "Qubes Disk Space Monitor":
sudo lvs qubes_dom0/pool00

2. Sort your VMs by size from largest to smallest in Qubes Manager, start 
one up, and execute the following, and repeat as necessary from largest to 
smallest.
sudo fstrim -av ; sudo shutdown -h now

3. Periodically check the pool usage via the "Qubes Disk Space Monitor" or 
the command in #1 above. If my hunch is correct, step #2 may recover some 
data.

If not, then start deleting VMs you don't need.

Also: dom0 VM usage as well as all combined domU VMs usage is allocated 
from the same shared thinpool pool00 in a default setup.

Brendan

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Re: [qubes-users] Disk usage warning

[Franz]

@Chris

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Chris Laprise  wrote:

> On 8/12/19 12:03 PM, Franz wrote:
> > On the upper right corner of the screen a black message alert:
> >
> > Disk usage warning!
> > You are running out of disk space. 4.8% space left in pool lvm.
> >
> > Sometimes the message is a bit different referring to rw instead
> >
> > If I run df in dom0 all items usage Is below 24%
> >
> > So what should I do with that alert?
> >
> > IMHO these alerts are too cryptic
> > Best.
>
> Df is completely inaccurate when Qubes 4 is using the default (lvm).
>
> The best overall indicator to use is the disk space widget in the systray.
>

Thanks, I understand you are referring to a new plugin to add to the panel.
if you are using default Xfce. There is one called "Free Space Checker" .

Once installed it tells 416GB are free. So no reason for the alert here


> The best way to view individual VM disk usage is from Qube Manager.
>

Yes this shows disk usage for each VM , but no way to understand which VM
may have problems.

In other words, an alert that does not tell which VM is involved have a
sort of terror effect. You understand that something can break every
moment, but no way to understand  where the problem is.


> To graphically examine disk usage within a VM, you can use the gnome
> "Disk usage" app. The shell executable name for this is "baobab".
>
>
This can be done if you already know which VM has problems. But starting
tens of VMs  fishing for the one with problems seems too much. Also I
suspect that those black alert messages in the upper right corner of the
screen are related to dom0, rather than to specific VMs.

So from my viewpoint these alerts have no practical use, other then
remembering that computers are a fragile thing  and that it may be time to
do a backup.
Best

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Re: [qubes-users] best and less expensive Lenovo think pad

[799]

<27casanov...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 12. Aug. 2019, 23:55:

> Thats prity good advice :). Turns out thers a X240 modell (8GB) avalibel.
> will that one work as well?
> Altough its most likly not an option will all X1 Carbon work?
>
> And this is the latest recomended vertion of qubes? Seams as if many
> models are out dated now.
>

The X240 will NOT work with Coreboot.
If you need more performance you can look at a Lenovo W530 but those are
much bulkier devices and have a reduced battery runtime.
I also own a W540 (not Coreboot'able) and it has Qubes installed, but I am
not using it, just because the x230 feels much more portable and has twice
the battery runtime.

799

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Re: [qubes-users] whonix gateway and Tor or VPN an Tor

[27casanova27]

Ok, thanks. Thats intresting!

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Re: [qubes-users] best and less expensive Lenovo think pad

[27casanova27]

Thats prity good advice :). Turns out thers a X240 modell (8GB) avalibel. will 
that one work as well?
Altough its most likly not an option will all X1 Carbon work?

And this is the latest recomended vertion of qubes? Seams as if many models are 
out dated now.

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[qubes-users] Greetings

[27casanova27]

Hi Ann, whats up :)?

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[qubes-users] Greetings

[27casanova27]

Hi, Ann whats up?

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[qubes-users] The VPN avalibel in Qubes

[27casanova27]

This is indipendent of Tor. I just relised that some kind of vpn can be sett up 
when making a new VM. 

I guse it uses whonix gateway indipendent of Tor?

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[qubes-users] The VPN avalibel in Qubes

[27casanova27]

Hi, how god is the vpn that can be sett up in Qubes? 

Any point in downloading a vpn when using Qubes? And in that case why?

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Re: [qubes-users] best and less expensive Lenovo think pad

[27casanova27]

Thats prity good advice :). Turns out thers a X240 modell (8GB) avalibel. will 
that one work as well?

Altough its most likly not an option will all X1 Carbon work?

And this is the latest recomended vertion of qubes? Seams as if many models are 
out dated now.

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Re: [qubes-users] best and less expensive Lenovo think pad

[799]

Hello,

<27casanov...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 12. Aug. 2019, 09:26:

> What is the best and less expensive Lenovo think pad for new Qube?
>

As always ... It depends. The G505s is not a bad choice but it is not from
the Thinkpad line but a consumer laptop.
I would say the Lenovo X230 or T430 as you can install Coreboot on them,
you get USB3 and LTE. And you can add some cool things like illuminates
keyboards, an additional battery pack (Slice battery) which gives you lots
of battery runtime.
Additionally you can get a docking station (not sure if this is available
for a G505s) which gives you additional Display options.

I would go with the x230, 16GB RAM and a new SSD, then add Coreboot (I have
a specific howto covering this).

But as they are all so cheap: buy them all and test them, then sell the
ones you don't like to keep ;-)

799

>

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Re: [qubes-users] Data recovery - data loss during cut and paste

[Chris Laprise]

On 8/12/19 10:50 AM, ger...@riseup.net wrote:

Chris Laprise:

On 8/12/19 9:37 AM, ger...@riseup.net wrote:

Is there a possibility, to recover data after moving it with cut and
paste?

Description what I did:
I have a VM based on a Fedora 28 template (Qubes 4.0) and attached a USB
3.0 SD reader with a SD card to that VM.
I moved my complete folder with important offline e-mail data (appr.
500MB) from the VM to the SD card with cut and paste.
The connection to the SD card was interrupted during moving, so the data
on the VM is lost and there is only a small part of it on the SD card
now.
There is no backup of that data to restore.
I know it was stupid, not to use copy and paste and not to make a backup
:-(

I didn't make a reboot of the VM and I didn't copy data on that VM yet.
Can the deleted data be restored somehow?

Many thanks for each kind of help or hint!



There is a chance you can recover the data.

You said "I didn't make a reboot of the VM", and if your system is
still running and the VM has not been shut down since the incident,
you can simply clone the VM while it is still running. This will
create a clone VM in the same state (with the same data!) _before_ you
started the source VM.

A VM's prior state (pre-startup) isn't removed from the system until
you shut down the VM.



It worked! Thanks a lot for the answer and thanks a lot for the Qubes
team to develop such a safe working system. All my data could be
restored without loss.



Really glad to hear it... kudos to people who ask for help in an 
emergency and don't panic! :)


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Re: [qubes-users] Disk usage warning

[Chris Laprise]

On 8/12/19 12:03 PM, Franz wrote:

On the upper right corner of the screen a black message alert:

Disk usage warning!
You are running out of disk space. 4.8% space left in pool lvm.

Sometimes the message is a bit different referring to rw instead

If I run df in dom0 all items usage Is below 24%

So what should I do with that alert?

IMHO these alerts are too cryptic
Best.


Df is completely inaccurate when Qubes 4 is using the default (lvm).

The best overall indicator to use is the disk space widget in the systray.

The best way to view individual VM disk usage is from Qube Manager.

To graphically examine disk usage within a VM, you can use the gnome 
"Disk usage" app. The shell executable name for this is "baobab".


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[qubes-users] Disk usage warning

[Franz]

On the upper right corner of the screen a black message alert:

Disk usage warning!
You are running out of disk space. 4.8% space left in pool lvm.

Sometimes the message is a bit different referring to rw instead

If I run df in dom0 all items usage Is below 24%

So what should I do with that alert?

IMHO these alerts are too cryptic
Best.

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Re: [qubes-users] Data recovery - data loss during cut and paste

[gerold]

Chris Laprise:
> On 8/12/19 9:37 AM, ger...@riseup.net wrote:
>> Is there a possibility, to recover data after moving it with cut and
>> paste?
>> 
>> Description what I did:
>> I have a VM based on a Fedora 28 template (Qubes 4.0) and attached a USB
>> 3.0 SD reader with a SD card to that VM.
>> I moved my complete folder with important offline e-mail data (appr.
>> 500MB) from the VM to the SD card with cut and paste.
>> The connection to the SD card was interrupted during moving, so the data
>> on the VM is lost and there is only a small part of it on the SD card
>> now.
>> There is no backup of that data to restore.
>> I know it was stupid, not to use copy and paste and not to make a backup
>> :-(
>> 
>> I didn't make a reboot of the VM and I didn't copy data on that VM yet.
>> Can the deleted data be restored somehow?
>> 
>> Many thanks for each kind of help or hint!
>> 
> 
> There is a chance you can recover the data.
> 
> You said "I didn't make a reboot of the VM", and if your system is
> still running and the VM has not been shut down since the incident,
> you can simply clone the VM while it is still running. This will
> create a clone VM in the same state (with the same data!) _before_ you
> started the source VM.
> 
> A VM's prior state (pre-startup) isn't removed from the system until
> you shut down the VM.
> 

It worked! Thanks a lot for the answer and thanks a lot for the Qubes
team to develop such a safe working system. All my data could be
restored without loss.

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Re: [qubes-users] Overriding Spectre/Meltdown mitigations?

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arthur.summ...@gmail.com:
> My use case for Qubes is less security-focused and more 
> separation/compartmentalization of systems-focused. If XenClient was still 
> a thing, I'd be using it. I even tried to hack at ESXi to get X11 running 
> and maybe use it as a client hypervisor, but no luck.
> 
> That said, while I take security seriously, I also weigh it against things 
> like risk and performance. I recently upgraded my BIOS to take care of an 
> issue I had with my fans going at 100% after resuming from suspend:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/hkj5BkR8Z8E
> 
> Here is the BIOS I flashed:
> https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=MJ0KC=W732=precision-m6800-workstation
> 
> However, the new BIOS appears to allow kernel modules that address the 
> Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities to run . . . and WOW, did my system get 
> slow. Running updates on one of my templates resulted in the VM crashing 
> repeatedly and never successfully updating. VMs are regularly taking up a 
> large percentage of CPU. I added the nospectre_v1, nospectre_v2, and 
> nospec_store_bypass_disable kernel parameters, and that seemed to help 
> somewhat, but I have two questions:
> 
>- In GRUB, do I add those kernel params to the multiboot /xen- line, 
>the module /vmlinuz- line, or somewhere else?
>- Are there other modules that I could disable to improve performance?
> 
> Obviously, I completely understand that this is not recommended and goes 
> against the purpose of Qubes as an OS, but from a risk perspective, I'm 
> willing to take the trade-off for a bit of extra performance.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
Since those sound like kernel params, you'd add them to the vmlinuz
line. However, if you want them system-wide instead of just dom0, you
might want to look up the Xen equivalents and add to the Xen line
instead. See
https://github.com/Qubes-Community/Contents/blob/master/docs/misc/iaq.adoc#how-can-i-disable-xen-meltdown-mitigations
for example.

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Re: [qubes-users] whonix gateway and Tor or VPN an Tor

[Chris Laprise]

On 8/12/19 4:48 AM, 27casanov...@gmail.com wrote:

What is safer an why?



The Whonix website has a writeup on this subject:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tunnels/Introduction

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Re: [qubes-users] Data recovery - data loss during cut and paste

[Chris Laprise]

On 8/12/19 9:37 AM, ger...@riseup.net wrote:

Is there a possibility, to recover data after moving it with cut and
paste?

Description what I did:
I have a VM based on a Fedora 28 template (Qubes 4.0) and attached a USB
3.0 SD reader with a SD card to that VM.
I moved my complete folder with important offline e-mail data (appr.
500MB) from the VM to the SD card with cut and paste.
The connection to the SD card was interrupted during moving, so the data
on the VM is lost and there is only a small part of it on the SD card
now.
There is no backup of that data to restore.
I know it was stupid, not to use copy and paste and not to make a backup
:-(

I didn't make a reboot of the VM and I didn't copy data on that VM yet.
Can the deleted data be restored somehow?

Many thanks for each kind of help or hint!



There is a chance you can recover the data.

You said "I didn't make a reboot of the VM", and if your system is still 
running and the VM has not been shut down since the incident, you can 
simply clone the VM while it is still running. This will create a clone 
VM in the same state (with the same data!) _before_ you started the 
source VM.


A VM's prior state (pre-startup) isn't removed from the system until you 
shut down the VM.


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[qubes-users] Data recovery - data loss during cut and paste

[gerold]

Is there a possibility, to recover data after moving it with cut and
paste?

Description what I did:
I have a VM based on a Fedora 28 template (Qubes 4.0) and attached a USB
3.0 SD reader with a SD card to that VM.
I moved my complete folder with important offline e-mail data (appr.
500MB) from the VM to the SD card with cut and paste.
The connection to the SD card was interrupted during moving, so the data
on the VM is lost and there is only a small part of it on the SD card
now.
There is no backup of that data to restore.
I know it was stupid, not to use copy and paste and not to make a backup
:-(

I didn't make a reboot of the VM and I didn't copy data on that VM yet.
Can the deleted data be restored somehow?

Many thanks for each kind of help or hint!

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Re: [qubes-users] best and less expensive Lenovo think pad

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27casanov...@gmail.com:

What is the best and less expensive Lenovo think pad for new Qube?


G505s if you're prepared to Coreboot it yourself. PrivacyBeast if not.

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[qubes-users] whonix gateway and Tor or VPN an Tor

[27casanova27]

What is safer an why?

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Re: [qubes-users] Old qube version

[27casanova27]

Ok, so it gets less ans less unsecure as time gose on? 

And at this point it not that bad?

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