[qubes-users] HCL - HP Probook 640 G3

2020-11-24 Thread Effie ML 

Hello Qubes Users.

Here is my HCL from my HP Probook 640 G3.

Regards.

Effie ML.



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[qubes-users] Missing kde plasma package groups and XFCE panel

2020-11-15 Thread Effie ML 

Hello!

I was just trying to install kde plasma on 4.1, however it says that the 
following group packages are missing:


 * kdepasswd
 * qubes-kde-dom0
 * xsettings-kde
 * plasma-workspace-drkonqi
 * kcm-gtk
 * phonon-backend-gstreamer
 * ksnapshot

And so it can install.


I am also missing the panel in XFCE with error:

"GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnkown: The name is not 
activatable".



I can start programs and all, it's just a little irritating.

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Re: [qubes-users] Questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer

2020-11-13 Thread Effie ML 
I am not sure, it seems so: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#switching


You should see the docs on upgrading: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora/#upgrading


On 11/13/20 2:21 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

"[...] you need to change all AppVMs to the new template."

Is this done by open the "Qube Settings" in the AppVm's and under 
Template choose the new template, or what is needed to connect the old 
AppVM's to the new/updated template ?



fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 14.08.12 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:

On 11/13/20 1:59 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

I have the following questions regarding updating a
Fedora-template to a new version integer:

1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and
QubesIncoming folder be deleted when updating it ?


No, this is AppVM data, template updates should not touch AppVM data.


2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the
Fedora-template also be updated and still work after the update ?


No, you need to change all AppVMs to the new template. However,
they should work.


3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have
to be reinstalled afterwards ?


It depends on what update route you go.

There is the (what I find to be easier) way of downloading the
package in dom0. But it means that you will end up with a
completely clean template.

Or you can do an in-place update, it will preserve all your
applications and changes.


4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to
a new version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at
least create a script file that a user can execute instead of
having to execute all the commands manually ?


I would like to see that too.
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Re: [qubes-users] How to install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in Qubes OS R4.0 ?

2020-11-13 Thread Effie ML 
The difference is, if the install script puts data into /home /usr/local 
or /rw. If it puts data into anywhere else (e.g. if it installs a 
package) then it can only be in a Template.

On 11/13/20 2:07 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
What makes the difference between if an application can and cannot be 
installed only in a AppVM ?


fredag den 13. november 2020 kl. 13.36.50 UTC+1 skrev Effie ML:

On 11/13/20 1:05 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

Thank you for your advices.

In case you would like to know, here is a description of the
application called "Maple": https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/
<https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/> and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple>

Regarding the "Fedora-30 template", if it has ended it's life
long time ago, then why is it still the template version in Qubes
R4.0.3 or is it just the shown name of the template in the Qubes
Applicatons menu ?


Because Qubes ISOs are offline (the reason they are so big) and
are created manually.

There is work on R4.0.4 which has Fedora 32, however it might be a
few days before it gets released



Do I understand you correctly "unman", that I can choose to
either install the application in a template or just in a AppVM,
and if so how do I only install it in a AppVM ?


It depends on the application. We don't know it.

I know if you are using Snap (and maybe appimage or flatpak) you
can install in an AppVM.


tirsdag den 10. november 2020 kl. 01.49.01 UTC+1 skrev unman:

Advising that you are leaking language, and therefore possibly
country.


On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:21:25PM +, 'awokd' via
qubes-users wrote:
> 'M' via qubes-users:
> > I have received this file from a administrator at my
workplace:
> > "Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have
downloaded to my work
> > domain.
> >
> > My question is then: How can I install Maple in a
Fedora-30 template in
> > Qubes OS R4.0. ... ?
> >
> Don't know Maple specifically, but if it's like most
packages, you qvm-copy
> it to the template, then install it there. Be aware it will
then be
> "installed" in all AppVMs based on that template.
>

If you're looking for specific advice on how to install it,
the first
thing to do is to check what *sort* of file it is. You can do
this using
the `file` command.
But from the "run" suffix, I'm guessing it's an installer
script. You
would need to check that it is executable by running `ls -l`,
or make it
so using `chmod +x`

I don't know Maple: you may or may not be able to install it
in a
template. If it is intended to be installed in the home
directory, then
you should run it in /etc/skel in the template and install it
there.
Then it will appear in the /home/user directory in qubes
created from
that template.
Otherwise install it in the home directory in a qube. You can
always
clone that to other qubes.

When you've determined the best approach, please document it
here so
other users can benefit from your experience.

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Re: [qubes-users] Questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer

2020-11-13 Thread Effie ML 

On 11/13/20 1:59 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
I have the following questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to 
a new version integer:


1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and 
QubesIncoming folder be deleted when updating it ?



No, this is AppVM data, template updates should not touch AppVM data.
2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the Fedora-template 
also be updated and still work after the update ?


No, you need to change all AppVMs to the new template. However, they 
should work.
3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have to be 
reinstalled afterwards ?



It depends on what update route you go.

There is the (what I find to be easier) way of downloading the package 
in dom0. But it means that you will end up with a completely clean template.


Or you can do an in-place update, it will preserve all your applications 
and changes.


4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to a new 
version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at least create a 
script file that a user can execute instead of having to execute all 
the commands manually ?



I would like to see that too.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to install Maple in a Fedora-30 template in Qubes OS R4.0 ?

2020-11-13 Thread Effie ML 

On 11/13/20 1:05 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

Thank you for your advices.

In case you would like to know, here is a description of the 
application called "Maple": https://maplesoft.com/products/Maple/ and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple


Regarding the "Fedora-30 template", if it has ended it's life long 
time ago, then why is it still the template version in Qubes R4.0.3 or 
is it just the shown name of the template in the Qubes Applicatons menu ?


Because Qubes ISOs are offline (the reason they are so big) and are 
created manually.


There is work on R4.0.4 which has Fedora 32, however it might be a few 
days before it gets released




Do I understand you correctly "unman", that I can choose to either 
install the application in a template or just in a AppVM, and if so 
how do I only install it in a AppVM ?


It depends on the application. We don't know it.

I know if you are using Snap (and maybe appimage or flatpak) you can 
install in an AppVM.



tirsdag den 10. november 2020 kl. 01.49.01 UTC+1 skrev unman:

Advising that you are leaking language, and therefore possibly country.


On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 07:21:25PM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users
wrote:
> 'M' via qubes-users:
> > I have received this file from a administrator at my workplace:
> > "Maple2020.1LinuxX64Installer.run" which I have downloaded to
my work
> > domain.
> >
> > My question is then: How can I install Maple in a Fedora-30
template in
> > Qubes OS R4.0. ... ?
> >
> Don't know Maple specifically, but if it's like most packages,
you qvm-copy
> it to the template, then install it there. Be aware it will then be
> "installed" in all AppVMs based on that template.
>

If you're looking for specific advice on how to install it, the first
thing to do is to check what *sort* of file it is. You can do this
using
the `file` command.
But from the "run" suffix, I'm guessing it's an installer script. You
would need to check that it is executable by running `ls -l`, or
make it
so using `chmod +x`

I don't know Maple: you may or may not be able to install it in a
template. If it is intended to be installed in the home directory,
then
you should run it in /etc/skel in the template and install it there.
Then it will appear in the /home/user directory in qubes created from
that template.
Otherwise install it in the home directory in a qube. You can always
clone that to other qubes.

When you've determined the best approach, please document it here so
other users can benefit from your experience.

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