[qubes-users] Re: RAM for Qubes OS

2017-03-11 Thread jeanpierrefr22
Le samedi 11 mars 2017 11:11:41 UTC+1, Vít Šesták a écrit :
> My quick guess is that you need 2GiB more RAM with Qubes0S than with, say, 
> Ubuntu. Reasoning:
> 
> a. Experience: 6GiB with Ubuntu was somewhat usable, but I had to close all 
> apps I was not using at the time and even with this, I got some swapping 
> times. With 8GiB, it was much better. With QubesOS, I got similar experience 
> for 8GiB (swapping times) and 10GiB (good experience). But please note that 
> my experience with 10GiB RAM is quite short: I have used it few days because 
> of a faulty RAM module. (10GiB was actually a temporary downgrade from 16GiB.)
> 
> b. Calculation: By default, dom0 takes at least 1GiB RAM. Both sys-net and 
> sys-firewall and sys-usb can be configured for 200 or 300 MiB. Plus some 
> overhead.
> 
> Note that Qubes 4 will probably add about 50MiB overhead for each VM except 
> HVMs (the overhead is alreasy there) and dom0 (no need for stubdom). 
> 
> On the other hand, you can make some further modifications that same some RAM.
> 
> * If you don't need USB for anything but keyboard and mouse (or touchpad or 
> something similar), you can get rid of sys-usb.
> * You might merge sys-net and sys-firewall in one VM. Yes, some will note 
> that this is generally a bad idea. While I agree it reduces some benefits of 
> Qubes, merging sys-net with sys-firewall should not make it worse than 
> conventional distributions.
> * You might try MirageOS-based firewall to reduce its footprint. But please 
> note that this is experimental today.
> 
> Also note that QubesOS is not designed for swapping. All AppVMs have 1GiB 
> swap and you can theoretically add more, but memory balancing does not work 
> well if swap is used heavily.
> 
> I would say that you will be able to run Qubes with 4GiB RAM if your 
> requirements are pretty low. It might be worth trying. But I would not 
> recommend any laptop with non-upgradable 4GiB RAM as a new hardware for 
> QubesOS.
> 
> Regards,
> Vít Šesták 'v6ak'

Thank for your answer, it's a shame there no ultrabooks allowing RAM upgrade :( 

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[qubes-users] Re: RAM for Qubes OS

2017-03-10 Thread jeanpierrefr22
Le vendredi 10 mars 2017 19:51:50 UTC+1, cooloutac a écrit :
> On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 1:49:25 PM UTC-5, cooloutac wrote:
> > On Friday, March 10, 2017 at 10:56:17 AM UTC-5, jeanpie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > I have a Xiaomi Air Notebook 12.5":
> > > 
> > > - Intel Core m3-6Y30 Dual Core 0.9GHz, Up to 2.2GHz
> > > - 12.5 inch IPS Screen with 1920 x 1080 Resolution
> > > - 4GB DDR3 RAM for Advanced Multitasking
> > > - 128GB SSD Storage Capacity
> > > 
> > > (http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_416105.html)
> > > 
> > > I wonder if 4GB of RAM is enough to run Qubes OS.
> > > I know that 4GB is the minimum required nevertheless I won't install 
> > > Qubes on it if I can't open 2 AppVM at the same time or if the laptop is 
> > > very slow.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Feedbacks appreciated if someone alreday installed Qubes on the Xiaomi :)
> > 
> > it will run fine but whether or not you  can run 2 appvm at same time 
> > depends what you do in them?  you have 
> > 
> > two appvms with 40 firefox tabs open? prolly not lol.   I have 6gb and I 
> > can run 3 appvm and 3 sysvms but do run into slowdowns if using too much 
> > ram.
> > 
> > You can run the live usb just to see how qubes runs on your system.  
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/live-usb/
> 
> you can tell when qubes starts using too much ram if dom0 ram keeps getting 
> lower.

So 4 GB is fine to run 2/3 light VM ?

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[qubes-users] RAM for Qubes OS

2017-03-10 Thread jeanpierrefr22
Hi there,

I have a Xiaomi Air Notebook 12.5":

- Intel Core m3-6Y30 Dual Core 0.9GHz, Up to 2.2GHz
- 12.5 inch IPS Screen with 1920 x 1080 Resolution
- 4GB DDR3 RAM for Advanced Multitasking
- 128GB SSD Storage Capacity

(http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_416105.html)

I wonder if 4GB of RAM is enough to run Qubes OS.
I know that 4GB is the minimum required nevertheless I won't install Qubes on 
it if I can't open 2 AppVM at the same time or if the laptop is very slow.

Thank you,


Feedbacks appreciated if someone alreday installed Qubes on the Xiaomi :)

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