Re: [qubes-users] Are my AppVMs living in a tiny corner of my hard drive?

2016-12-01 Thread mojosam
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 9:27:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 12/01/2016 11:52 PM, mojosam wrote:
> > I have a 110 GB SSD.  If I look at the settings for any of my AppVMs, it 
> > says that the "Private storage max. size" is 2048 MB (which is the 
> > default).  It also says that "System storage max size" is 10240 MB.
> >
> > Is 10240 MB the maximum size that an AppVM is allowed to get, or is that 
> > the size of the drive it's living on?  If it's the latter, I'm concerned 
> > about why that's one tenth the size of my drive.
> >
> > What I want to do is create a few more AppVMs, but I'm worried about 
> > running out of space on my drive.
> >
> 
> Each appVM's storage lives in a separate disk image file that is 
> "sparse". That means it grows or shrinks depending on how much data you 
> have added or deleted. But it can only grow as far as the "Private 
> storage max" that you set.
> 
> You could set a bunch of appVMs to each have a Private max size that is 
> larger than your hard drive (or, combined, their Private max could be 
> larger than your hard drive) and they will work fine unless/until you 
> add too much data to them. That setting is so you can expand appVM 
> storage to sizes that will reasonably hold your data, and you can keep 
> expanding the max as needed.
> 
> The "System storage max" refers to the VM's system root image (where the 
> guest OS lives), not your hard disk. It means that particular template 
> (or standalone) OS can't grow beyond that size. You probably won't need 
> to adjust this setting. For VMs that use a template, the actual system 
> size is the 'Size' you see listed for the template in Qubes Manager.
> 
> To get an idea of the free space available to Qubes, you can enter 'df 
> -m' in a dom0 command prompt to see the value in megabytes. Or in the 
> GUI (KDE), you can right-click on the taskbar or desktop to add a Widget 
> that displays overall disk space.
> 
> Chris

Thanks for the clarification.  I think I understand that better now.  I 
couldn't find that in the documentation.  I was definitely confusing system 
storage and private storage.

I was playing around with 'df -m' before I posted that question, and it was 
just confusing me more.  But just now I created another VM and reran 'df -m' 
and saw which directory got fuller.  I should have done that first.  This whole 
thing is slowly starting to gel in my mind.  (I've used Linux sporadically over 
the years, but I've never had to administer it.  I guess there's a lot I still 
don't know about how Unixy computers think.)

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Re: [qubes-users] Are my AppVMs living in a tiny corner of my hard drive?

2016-12-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 12/01/2016 11:52 PM, mojosam wrote:

I have a 110 GB SSD.  If I look at the settings for any of my AppVMs, it says that the 
"Private storage max. size" is 2048 MB (which is the default).  It also says that 
"System storage max size" is 10240 MB.

Is 10240 MB the maximum size that an AppVM is allowed to get, or is that the 
size of the drive it's living on?  If it's the latter, I'm concerned about why 
that's one tenth the size of my drive.

What I want to do is create a few more AppVMs, but I'm worried about running 
out of space on my drive.



Each appVM's storage lives in a separate disk image file that is 
"sparse". That means it grows or shrinks depending on how much data you 
have added or deleted. But it can only grow as far as the "Private 
storage max" that you set.


You could set a bunch of appVMs to each have a Private max size that is 
larger than your hard drive (or, combined, their Private max could be 
larger than your hard drive) and they will work fine unless/until you 
add too much data to them. That setting is so you can expand appVM 
storage to sizes that will reasonably hold your data, and you can keep 
expanding the max as needed.


The "System storage max" refers to the VM's system root image (where the 
guest OS lives), not your hard disk. It means that particular template 
(or standalone) OS can't grow beyond that size. You probably won't need 
to adjust this setting. For VMs that use a template, the actual system 
size is the 'Size' you see listed for the template in Qubes Manager.


To get an idea of the free space available to Qubes, you can enter 'df 
-m' in a dom0 command prompt to see the value in megabytes. Or in the 
GUI (KDE), you can right-click on the taskbar or desktop to add a Widget 
that displays overall disk space.


Chris

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[qubes-users] Are my AppVMs living in a tiny corner of my hard drive?

2016-12-01 Thread mojosam
I have a 110 GB SSD.  If I look at the settings for any of my AppVMs, it says 
that the "Private storage max. size" is 2048 MB (which is the default).  It 
also says that "System storage max size" is 10240 MB.

Is 10240 MB the maximum size that an AppVM is allowed to get, or is that the 
size of the drive it's living on?  If it's the latter, I'm concerned about why 
that's one tenth the size of my drive.

What I want to do is create a few more AppVMs, but I'm worried about running 
out of space on my drive.

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