Re: [qubes-users] HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2020-01-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 12/23/19 5:23 PM, Defiant wrote:



On 22. 12. 19 15:45, Claudia wrote:


I just wanted to drop a note here before I forget. Out of the box, Qubes blanks 
the screen after a few minutes, but never powers off the screen, even though 
it's configured to do so in the XFCE Power Manager. I've had this problem on 
several machines, all the way back to R3.2, and I always blamed it on lack of 
hardware support.

Turns out, it's because Qubes comes with Xscreensaver enabled which overrides the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is 
only configured to blank the screen; I'm not sure if it even supports powering it off. To return control to XFCE, go to Menu > 
System Tools > Session and Startup > Application Autostart, and uncheck "Screensaver". Then you can logout, 
reboot, or go to Menu > System Tools > Screensaver > File > Kill Daemon. You may have to also open Menu > System 
Tools > Power Manager > Display, and switch "Display power management" to off and then on again.

Note this will disable the lockscreen. This is not recommended if you use a USB 
keyboard or mouse and a USB Qube, or if someone has physical access to your 
computer while it's on. Otherwise, I recommend enabling screen poweroff in 
order to conserve energy and lengthen the lifespan of your screen's backlight.




I have also noticed this annoyance on several machines and different
linux distributions so it must be an Xfce problem, not a Qubes problem.


That is probably the case since this was one of the problems that got 
solved when I switched to KDE.


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Re: [qubes-users] HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-27 Thread Claudia
December 27, 2019 11:32 AM, dhorf-hfref.4a288...@hashmail.org wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 02:45:34PM +, Claudia wrote:
> 
>> overrides the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only
>> configured to blank the screen; I'm not sure if it even supports
>> powering it off. To return control to XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools
> 
> it does, and it works (for me).
> 
> check "grep dpms .xscreensaver" and edit.
> or use "xscreensaver-demo" to adjust in a clicky way.

Thanks for adding that. Personally I don't want or need the lockscreen so for 
me it made more sense just to disable Xscreensaver altogether. Good to know you 
can have lockscreen and blanking at the same time though :)

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Re: [qubes-users] HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-27 Thread dhorf-hfref . 4a288f10
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 02:45:34PM +, Claudia wrote:
> overrides the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only
> configured to blank the screen; I'm not sure if it even supports
> powering it off. To return control to XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools

it does, and it works (for me).

check "grep dpms .xscreensaver" and edit. 
or use "xscreensaver-demo" to adjust in a clicky way.


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Re: [qubes-users] HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-23 Thread Defiant



On 22. 12. 19 15:45, Claudia wrote:
>
> I just wanted to drop a note here before I forget. Out of the box, Qubes 
> blanks the screen after a few minutes, but never powers off the screen, even 
> though it's configured to do so in the XFCE Power Manager. I've had this 
> problem on several machines, all the way back to R3.2, and I always blamed it 
> on lack of hardware support.
> 
> Turns out, it's because Qubes comes with Xscreensaver enabled which overrides 
> the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only configured to blank the 
> screen; I'm not sure if it even supports powering it off. To return control 
> to XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools > Session and Startup > Application 
> Autostart, and uncheck "Screensaver". Then you can logout, reboot, or go to 
> Menu > System Tools > Screensaver > File > Kill Daemon. You may have to also 
> open Menu > System Tools > Power Manager > Display, and switch "Display power 
> management" to off and then on again.
> 
> Note this will disable the lockscreen. This is not recommended if you use a 
> USB keyboard or mouse and a USB Qube, or if someone has physical access to 
> your computer while it's on. Otherwise, I recommend enabling screen poweroff 
> in order to conserve energy and lengthen the lifespan of your screen's 
> backlight.
> 
>

I have also noticed this annoyance on several machines and different
linux distributions so it must be an Xfce problem, not a Qubes problem.

You're probably asking yourself why do we even need xscreensaver when we
can instead use a screen locker like lightlocker. I think I read on the
issues tracker that xscreensaver is the most secure screen "locker" for
X11 which is why it is used in Qubes, and if you would want to use
something stronger you'd have to go wayland.

I hear Qubes 4.1 will use the new Xfce 4.14 though I am unsure whether
this bug has been fixed in that version.


Kind regards!

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[qubes-users] HOWTO: Enable screen poweroff (instead of blanking)

2019-12-22 Thread Claudia
I just wanted to drop a note here before I forget. Out of the box, Qubes blanks 
the screen after a few minutes, but never powers off the screen, even though 
it's configured to do so in the XFCE Power Manager. I've had this problem on 
several machines, all the way back to R3.2, and I always blamed it on lack of 
hardware support.

Turns out, it's because Qubes comes with Xscreensaver enabled which overrides 
the XFCE Power Manager settings. Xscreensaver is only configured to blank the 
screen; I'm not sure if it even supports powering it off. To return control to 
XFCE, go to Menu > System Tools > Session and Startup > Application Autostart, 
and uncheck "Screensaver". Then you can logout, reboot, or go to Menu > System 
Tools > Screensaver > File > Kill Daemon. You may have to also open Menu > 
System Tools > Power Manager > Display, and switch "Display power management" 
to off and then on again.

Note this will disable the lockscreen. This is not recommended if you use a USB 
keyboard or mouse and a USB Qube, or if someone has physical access to your 
computer while it's on. Otherwise, I recommend enabling screen poweroff in 
order to conserve energy and lengthen the lifespan of your screen's backlight.

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