Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-16 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 16:35:25 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 2:26:39 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> > On Saturday, 16 July 2016 16:22:46 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:03:01 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> > > > On Friday, 15 July 2016 13:29:42 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > > Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template?  Why do 
> > > > >  you want an older kernel?
> > > > 
> > > > I have backups of older Linux Guests, Fedora 23. From Qubes 3.1, and 
> > > > RESTORING them into 3.2, but since the backup doesn't backup the kernel 
> > > > that is used, OR the full guest, the guest itself is completely broken. 
> > > > And since it's broken I cant even restore it to a new installation of 
> > > > 3.1.
> > > 
> > > Why do you need the older kernel, what do you mean by broken?
> > 
> > I restore it, it says it will use the newer kernel, but then it just 
> > doesn't start or says it can't find the files or folder or says it just 
> > can't boot or starts then immediately shuts down.
> 
> did you make any custom modifications to that template?  I believe qubes 
> recommend you don't do that to default templates cause it can cause restore 
> errors and use a cloned template instead.
> 
> If its just a matter of installing some apps,  just keep a list and reinstall 
> them on new system is probably easier.

It was a standalone AppVM. Complete copy, then alterations.

The fact I altered the templates to remove the .., and put on security 
applications that I require for all templates, whether they are standard or 
not. If they are on the system, I'll add security. Such as Anti-Malware 
products that I trust. So not Nortons, not AVG, not Avast, only ones that are 
good.

Not to mention adding my scripts that I add in to the /rw/rc.local because that 
is required for all of my templates to set the settings and things that Qubes 
doesn't set properly that I have reported before that still are not resolved.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-16 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 2:26:39 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Saturday, 16 July 2016 16:22:46 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:03:01 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> > > On Friday, 15 July 2016 13:29:42 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > > Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template?  Why do  
> > > > you want an older kernel?
> > > 
> > > I have backups of older Linux Guests, Fedora 23. From Qubes 3.1, and 
> > > RESTORING them into 3.2, but since the backup doesn't backup the kernel 
> > > that is used, OR the full guest, the guest itself is completely broken. 
> > > And since it's broken I cant even restore it to a new installation of 3.1.
> > 
> > Why do you need the older kernel, what do you mean by broken?
> 
> I restore it, it says it will use the newer kernel, but then it just doesn't 
> start or says it can't find the files or folder or says it just can't boot or 
> starts then immediately shuts down.

did you make any custom modifications to that template?  I believe qubes 
recommend you don't do that to default templates cause it can cause restore 
errors and use a cloned template instead.

If its just a matter of installing some apps,  just keep a list and reinstall 
them on new system is probably easier.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-16 Thread Drew White
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 16:22:46 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:03:01 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> > On Friday, 15 July 2016 13:29:42 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > > Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template?  Why do  
> > > you want an older kernel?
> > 
> > I have backups of older Linux Guests, Fedora 23. From Qubes 3.1, and 
> > RESTORING them into 3.2, but since the backup doesn't backup the kernel 
> > that is used, OR the full guest, the guest itself is completely broken. And 
> > since it's broken I cant even restore it to a new installation of 3.1.
> 
> Why do you need the older kernel, what do you mean by broken?

I restore it, it says it will use the newer kernel, but then it just doesn't 
start or says it can't find the files or folder or says it just can't boot or 
starts then immediately shuts down.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-16 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:03:01 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Friday, 15 July 2016 13:29:42 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template?  Why do  you 
> > want an older kernel?
> 
> I have backups of older Linux Guests, Fedora 23. From Qubes 3.1, and 
> RESTORING them into 3.2, but since the backup doesn't backup the kernel that 
> is used, OR the full guest, the guest itself is completely broken. And since 
> it's broken I cant even restore it to a new installation of 3.1.

Why do you need the older kernel, what do you mean by broken?

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread raahelps
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 6:49:17 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:38:08 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes by
> > running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the same.
> > 
> > Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0 -> 
> > 3.1?
>  
> Essentially, maybe, but I mean accessing the kernels for 3.1 and 3.0 and 2.1 
> and 2.0 etc...
> 
> Because in 3.2 it only has access to the 3.2 files.
> Or is it Fedora Packages I need the older versions of?

Are you talking about the kernel for dom0 or fedora template?  Why do  you want 
an older kernel?

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-14 15:49, Drew White wrote:
> On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:38:08 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
>> I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes
>> by running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the
>> same.
>> 
>> Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0
>> -> 3.1?
> 
> Essentially, maybe, but I mean accessing the kernels for 3.1 and 3.0 and
> 2.1 and 2.0 etc...
> 
> Because in 3.2 it only has access to the 3.2 files. Or is it Fedora
> Packages I need the older versions of?
> 

I seem to recall someone recently asking how to pull old kernels off previous
ISOs. You might want to try searching the archives for that thread.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Drew White
On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:38:08 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes by
> running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the same.
> 
> Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0 -> 
> 3.1?
 
Essentially, maybe, but I mean accessing the kernels for 3.1 and 3.0 and 2.1 
and 2.0 etc...

Because in 3.2 it only has access to the 3.2 files.
Or is it Fedora Packages I need the older versions of?

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-14 15:35, Drew White wrote:
> On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:14:05 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
>> You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
>>  specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll 
>> work:
>> 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3
> 
> How do I enable updating from an old version of Qubes? Or do I have to 
> install from the DVDs?
> 

I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, you can update any version of Qubes by
running qubes-dom0-update. That should work on "old" versions just the same.

Are you talking about upgrading from one version to the next, e.g., 3.0 -> 3.1?

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Drew White
On Friday, 15 July 2016 08:14:05 UTC+10, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
> specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll work:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3

How do I enable updating from an old version of Qubes? Or do I have to install 
from the DVDs?

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-07-14 05:12, Drew White wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> How do I install older kernels? I want them to be installed for he older 
> templates I have, but installed under a later version of Qubes, just for 
> Fedora 23 for example.
> 
> How can I do this please?
> 

You can try based on what's described here, combining "How to downgrade a
specific package" with "Kernel Upgrade," but I don't know whether it'll work:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#tocAnchor-1-1-3

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[qubes-users] Installing Older Kernels

2016-07-14 Thread Drew White
Hi folks,

How do I install older kernels?
I want them to be installed for he older templates I have, but installed under 
a later version of Qubes, just for Fedora 23 for example.

How can I do this please?

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