Re: [qubes-users] Monitor all processes

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preill...@gmail.com:
> On 10/14/20 3:11 AM, mj.jos...@gmail.com wrote:

>>
>> I want to creat a 'Monitor' VM with absolutely no internet capability
>> using debian (i started learning Linux with Ubuntu, then moved onto
>> Kali and Arch, now im experimenting with Raspbian, so im much more
>> familiar with debian than Fedora). I want to have all my supervisory
>> programs on this VM, but simply peering thru the looking glass as it
>> were.  I found xentop on the qubes terminal helpful, but that only
>> tells me if a particular qube is peaking CPU or memory usage, not what
>> process is killing my performance.

There might be some way to develop something like that if you really had
to, but finding the problem VM with xl top/xentop then drilling into it
to see process details is the "standard" way...

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Re: [qubes-users] Monitor all processes

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On 10/14/20 3:11 AM, mj.jos...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, im aware that the answer to this question might be the whole 
reason qubes compartmentalizes everything into virtual 
machinesor just 'no', but I was wondering is there a way to 
give a single qube read-only permission over all qubes on the 
computer?  so I can run something like htop on a debian machine, see a 
process thats bogging down my system, so I can go to that particular 
vm and kill the application?


I want to creat a 'Monitor' VM with absolutely no internet capability 
using debian (i started learning Linux with Ubuntu, then moved onto 
Kali and Arch, now im experimenting with Raspbian, so im much more 
familiar with debian than Fedora). I want to have all my supervisory 
programs on this VM, but simply peering thru the looking glass as it 
were.  I found xentop on the qubes terminal helpful, but that only 
tells me if a particular qube is peaking CPU or memory usage, not what 
process is killing my performance.


Im pretty new to qubes os, so if anyone has some ideas on other cli 
utilites on the qubes terminal, or any other suggestions, Id be happy 
to entertain them.  I recently built this system to be a linux 
machine.  After using second-hand laptops, computers found in the 
trash can, and random computer parts to see just how crappy a system 
will run linux lite, i decided to actually build a system from 
scratch.  I also bought a Pi4 kit, and running everything thru an HDMI 
selector into my tv that i use as a monitor.  so thanks to anyone who 
has an idea!


-Josh Nuevo-
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I have no idea if that is possible.  But since you asked for any ideas, 
I too sometimes have an app in a VM that is taking all the resources 
that I'd like to kill (typically a browser), and I've found it useful to 
run a console from dom0 into that VM using virsh.  I start a console 
into each likely VM that might have an issue.


from dom0:

virsh --quiet -c xen:/// console VM

In the console I login, and run top.  I have better success killing a 
runaway app this way then with gnome-terminal running in the VM.  I move 
those consoles to another virtual desktop to keep them out of the way, 
but available if needed.


Peter


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[qubes-users] Monitor all processes

[mj . joshua]

Hi, im aware that the answer to this question might be the whole reason 
qubes compartmentalizes everything into virtual machinesor just 
'no', but I was wondering is there a way to give a single qube read-only 
permission over all qubes on the computer?  so I can run something like 
htop on a debian machine, see a process thats bogging down my system, so I 
can go to that particular vm and kill the application?  

I want to creat a 'Monitor' VM with absolutely no internet capability using 
debian (i started learning Linux with Ubuntu, then moved onto Kali and 
Arch, now im experimenting with Raspbian, so im much more familiar with 
debian than Fedora).  I want to have all my supervisory programs on this 
VM, but simply peering thru the looking glass as it were.  I found xentop 
on the qubes terminal helpful, but that only tells me if a particular qube 
is peaking CPU or memory usage, not what process is killing my 
performance.  

Im pretty new to qubes os, so if anyone has some ideas on other cli 
utilites on the qubes terminal, or any other suggestions, Id be happy to 
entertain them.  I recently built this system to be a linux machine.  After 
using second-hand laptops, computers found in the trash can, and random 
computer parts to see just how crappy a system will run linux lite, i 
decided to actually build a system from scratch.  I also bought a Pi4 kit, 
and running everything thru an HDMI selector into my tv that i use as a 
monitor.  so thanks to anyone who has an idea!

-Josh Nuevo-

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