Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
On 7/11/21 3:23 PM, 799 wrote: Not sure if there is a big benefit using Debian over Fedora 33 but I would like to hear if there is a benefit. Personally I like that once I setup a Debian qube, it'll run and receive security updates for many years. I haven't looked up how quickly a Fedora qube EOLs but it 'feels' like year, maybe 18 months. It kind of depends what you want from your setup. I've reached a point where I have plenty of stuff to do and don't want to deal with things like updates and changing interfaces any more than necessary. Don't get me wrong: I thoroughly enjoyed the learning curve and setting everything up, but now that it works I enjoy not having to think about it all the time. /Sven -- public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/2A632C537D744BC7.asc fingerprint: DA59 75C9 ABC4 0C83 3B2F 620B 2A63 2C53 7D74 4BC7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5abc-e046-8397-a061-de75bc976e50%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
Hello, Steve Coleman schrieb am Do., 1. Juli 2021 > I don't have any suggestion for the Debian issue, but what I do to limit > the updates is clone the fedora-33-minimal to a template called > fedora-33-net, strip out any apps not needed, and then use that for my > networking AppVM's. With fewer apps there are far fewer updates to deal > with. > Not sure if there is a big benefit using Debian over Fedora 33 but I would like to hear if there is a benefit. I am using my own "minimalized" Templates which are build from a fedora-33-minimal template. You can find more about my templates here: https://github.com/one7two99/my-qubes/blob/master/my-qubes-templates/20%20template-sys-vms.md The template will work for sys-net / sys-firewall / sys-usb and also for a vpn-qube. I don't see that updating my fedora-based template takes much longer than my debian templates. One7two99 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAJ3yz2unSCN8HAKaK_zrYXNSoS5TKaoj67PD2%3D7NHr_eCZSKPQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
On 7/1/21 7:47 AM, Dominique wrote: Search the web to see which firmware needs to be installed in debian to support that card If your WiFi is Intel just install the "firmware-iwlwifi" -- public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/2A632C537D744BC7.asc fingerprint: DA59 75C9 ABC4 0C83 3B2F 620B 2A63 2C53 7D74 4BC7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/877dae06-0cd7-e9e4-ddfb-2ef9cb858ee3%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 6:55:07 PM UTC-4 stevenlc...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 10:55 AM 'taran1s' via qubes-users < > qubes...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under >> debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. >> Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease >> the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever >> possible. >> > > I don't have any suggestion for the Debian issue, but what I do to limit > the updates is clone the fedora-33-minimal to a template called > fedora-33-net, strip out any apps not needed, and then use that for my > networking AppVM's. With fewer apps there are far fewer updates to deal > with. > > Hi, I use Debian 10 for sys-net. It works great. Here are the steps that works for me. 1 - Install the minimal template for debian 10 2 - Update the template 3 - Install the qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root package (if you want) 4 - Shutdown the template 5 - Create a clone of the template (deb-10-sys) 6 - Start deb-10-sys 7 - Install the following package: qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-network-manager pciutils 8 - Shutdown deb-10-sys 9 - Change the template for sys-net to deb-10-sys (after shutting down all qubes) and start sys-net 10 - If everything works (wired and wireless) you are good to go if not 11 - Start xterm in sys-net 12 - Use lspci to see the info of the card that is not working 13 - Search the web to see which firmware needs to be installed in debian to support that card 14 - Start deb-10-sys, install the firmware and shutdown deb-10-sys 15 - Restart sys-net - everything should work I know I have use debian for firewall and USB in the past but went back to Fedora for USB because of some issue (don't even remember what issue) and I am now trying Mirage for firewall. Hope it helps! D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/41e69a7f-c9d8-421a-85f6-8e53b1498834n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 10:55 AM 'taran1s' via qubes-users < qubes-users@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under > debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. > Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease > the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever > possible. > I don't have any suggestion for the Debian issue, but what I do to limit the updates is clone the fedora-33-minimal to a template called fedora-33-net, strip out any apps not needed, and then use that for my networking AppVM's. With fewer apps there are far fewer updates to deal with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAJ5FDniF2%3DUBoyKTd0WBwPJ%2BiX%2BY%3Dcni5KeSonnGjfwKkxJFKQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
'taran1s' via qubes-users: Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever possible. I followed these guides regarding networking: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/minimal/ https://github.com/Qubes-Community/Contents/blob/master/docs/privacy/anonymizing-your-mac-address.md I installed following packages into debian-10-minimal template and based the sys-net and sys-firewall on it: qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-core-agent-network-manager qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root nano qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector qubes-core-agent-nautilus nautilus gnome-terminal Once I change the sys-whonix and sys-firewall, the network icon doesnt show any Wi-Fi Networks, only ethernet. Sorry, sys-net and sys-firewall, not sys-whonix of course. Any workaround? > -- Kind regards taran1s gpg: 12DDA1FE5FB39C110F3D1FD5A664B90BD3BE59B3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/32a8d14c-fd6d-947a-5760-d6df841f0d8a%40mailbox.org.
[qubes-users] Networking with debian10-minimal instead of fedora-33
Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever possible. I followed these guides regarding networking: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/minimal/ https://github.com/Qubes-Community/Contents/blob/master/docs/privacy/anonymizing-your-mac-address.md I installed following packages into debian-10-minimal template and based the sys-net and sys-firewall on it: qubes-core-agent-networking qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-core-agent-network-manager qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root nano qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector qubes-core-agent-nautilus nautilus gnome-terminal Once I change the sys-whonix and sys-firewall, the network icon doesnt show any Wi-Fi Networks, only ethernet. Any workaround? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/95355de4-b050-5ead-661b-f46bc19406ee%40mailbox.org.
