[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
Just another note: I have found that the laptop has accelerometers and they can be used for autorotation with a simple script: https://github.com/admiralakber/thinkpad-yoga-scripts/blob/master/rotate/thinkpad-rotate.py I've tuned it a bit, so it does not configure touchpads. I use an external touchpad that is rotated, so its autoconfiguration by this script is not welcome. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/09e9e11f-d92d-46f1-b52a-9acbc35e8091%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
Even though the MoBo officially supports up to 16 GiB of RAM, I've tried 32 GiB of RAM without any apparent issues. There was one 16 GiB module and one free slot, so I have bought exactly the same model (Hynix HMA82GS6AFR8N-UH) and it just works. There is official (dis)assembly guide. The hardest part of the installation was disconnecting the battery from MoBo, because the connector is very stiff. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7385077b-2947-4986-8a09-a93ff3063402%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
Forgot to add: When will this appear on https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/ ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dd239979-24e5-472e-be09-d5568e38f053%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
So far: * I've observed just one freeze on resume. It looks better than before. At the time, I plugged HDMI connector just before the resume, but it might be unrelated. * I've observed one sudden reboot, but I am not sure if this can be related to software. * Other than this, it's OK. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/423a606d-b6cb-4377-852c-faee8d942524%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
It does not work with stock Fedora 25. When looking by xev, there are no key events when pressing, say, Fn+U (which is usually number "4"). And the keys are not even labeled with numbers. So, I assume the keyboard firmware does not support it. Since Fn key on almost all laptops (AFAIK except MacBooks) is handled by firmware and not sent to OS, Qubes probably does not have any chance to handle it. So I just noted it under Qubes-unrelated notes, because it was quite surprising for me. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0a201e2f-8bc4-4289-b75c-2e3d090c45eb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
On 05/20/2017 12:48 PM, Vít Šesták wrote: > Few Qubes-unrelated notes: > > * It does not have numpad, even the Fn does not allow pressing numbers on > numpad. You have to rely on number row (or external keyboard). Question: Does this work on stock Fedora 25? I'm looking at the Qubes kernel config and there are some numpad related drivers that are disabled by default. If it does work on Fedora 25 and you have the capability to jump back to it, a list of running modules via lsmod might be useful. Otherwise, if it does work, I could try to track down a copy of the stock FC25 kernel config and see where the differences might be. Else, the difference would lie somewhere in userland. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ofs7vm%24qdk%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
So far: * I haven't encountered any suspend issue after several repeated quick suspend/resume cycles. But it is too early to say that it is definitely better now. * Maybe the suspend takes subjectively a bit more time (not 100% sure), but I don't care much. * I have installed it in both dom0 and AppVMs. However, Wi-Fi still does not work well after suspend/resume cycle without the blacklist file. * HDMI sound works well if I configure it manually in pavucontrol. Well, the cause why it did not work before might be outside of my laptop (HDMI cables). It seems that moving them cause HDMI to work better/worse or not to work at all. * The jack noise is mostly the same and it is still independent on the volume configured in Qubes. It is still perceivable with silence or with low volume sound output and mostly unnoticeable (=too silent) with normal volume output. (For obvious reason, the potentiometer on headset affects the level of the noise.) However, it now continues even after turning volume off (AFAIR it used to disappear when sound was turned off). * Others look the same. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0c25b74d-4d72-4eb8-bc3b-2b9311788c1b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
On 05/20/2017 01:51 PM, Vít Šesták wrote: >> I am wondering if Haswell and newer is more tightly >> bound to the Intel ME to the point where those machines actually need >> the driver enabled to work correctly. I don't think that's the case, but >> a sanity check would be useful. > It it just about testing if everything works well, or should I try to look at > something specific? > > Regards, > Vít Šesták 'v6ak' Mostly right now, I'm concerned about regressions in hardware support; the hardware I have access to test on is limited (Sandy Bridge, Westmere, and a Core 2 Quad Q6600) so while things work fine for me (I've actually moved on to 4.11 in dom0 now since the Hardened Kernel Community Project is working hard to port grsecurity features to that tree and have made patches available), I don't know if this kernel will work fine for others as is. In regards to the ME, in addition to Intel hardware support working properly, I suppose I'm curious if the machine will run longer than 30 minutes without the ME driver (although maybe that's just a Windows thing; I don't know). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ofq6vm%24p9i%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
> There's a 4.9.28 kernel in dom0 current-testing now, perhaps that might > give you better hardware support? Ah, something new! Thanks for noting. I'll try it and let you know. > If you can give me the output of sensors-detect and lspci in dom0 Well, here you are: https://gist.github.com/v6ak/7b26ea38f62adb7d644248bd93360bf7 If you want the output for 4.9 kernel, I have to reboot first. > And I'd also be interested in general feedback for the 4.9 kernel OK, but you'll probably have to wait a bit. > latest machine I have access to is a Sandy Bridge machine Sounds like my previous 5y old laptop. This one was BTW perfectly supported by Qubes (wrt. HW limitations, mostly missing VT-d), even without using a newer kernel. > I am wondering if Haswell and newer is more tightly > bound to the Intel ME to the point where those machines actually need > the driver enabled to work correctly. I don't think that's the case, but > a sanity check would be useful. It it just about testing if everything works well, or should I try to look at something specific? Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1464b17c-4c75-4eea-b965-a9a2bd5479d9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [3.2] HCL report for Inspiron 15-5578 (AKA 15z Touch)
On 05/20/2017 12:48 PM, Vít Šesták wrote: > Hello, > I am sending the HCL report. > > I am not sure what model number to use, because the commonly used 15-5578 > refers to various configuration. But when I use TN-5578-N2-711S, it seems to > refer to very specific piece of hardware (with different CPUs, HDDs/SSDs > etc.), the number may also include they key labels (Czech and Slovak in this > case), which is too specific for HCL. This one has 16GiB RAM, 512GiB SSD and > i7-7500U CPU. > > The hardware is quite a new for Qubes 3.2. For this reason, I had to use a > newer kernel. With the original one, I had issues with suspend (always froze) > and GPU support. With the new one (probably the same you can install from > unstable), it is much better. See > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/5578|sort:relevance/qubes-users/v6_B7FHnNUE/NR-yv6OHBQAJ > for more details. I hope this will require no tuning with Qubes 4.0. There's a 4.9.28 kernel in dom0 current-testing now, perhaps that might give you better hardware support? https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r3.2/current-testing/dom0/fc23/rpm/kernel-4.9.28-16.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm If you can give me the output of sensors-detect and lspci in dom0, I can double check to see if there are drivers for that hardware in the 4.9 tree and then see if they're enabled in the 4.9 kernel .config. The 4.9 kernel config when it comes to hardware support is mostly just a forward-ported 4.4 kernel config with a few additional tweaks for security (mainly taken from the Kernel Self Protection Project's recommended settings). https://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Kernel_Self_Protection_Project And I'd also be interested in general feedback for the 4.9 kernel; one of the changes I made was to remove the Intel ME driver from it. The latest machine I have access to is a Sandy Bridge machine, and while I have no issues, I am wondering if Haswell and newer is more tightly bound to the Intel ME to the point where those machines actually need the driver enabled to work correctly. I don't think that's the case, but a sanity check would be useful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ofq3oh%24gro%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
