Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-18 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:24:30AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> What shall I write instead of "
> qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 

sudo dnf erase qubes-template-bionic-desktop

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-18 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 19.02.52 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 18.51.56 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:36:24AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
>> > Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be 
>> the 
>> > reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM 
>> ? - 
>> > you may see my other thread about this. 
>>
>> Nope. For that you only have to check the assigned IP, subnet and 
>> gateway in the Qube Manager UI for that particular qube and then apply 
>> those settings inside the HVM. 
>>
>> See also "Setting up networking for HVMs" on this page: 
>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ 
>>
>> > When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
>> > programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again 
>> and 
>> > just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
>> > Debian template... ? 
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly. 
>>
>> -> Using the Qube Manager you can select which applications that are 
>> installed in any particular template will show in the Qube Menu. 
>>
>> -> If all this effort was only about a particular program then yes: you 
>> should have stated your need / intent more clearly at the beginning. You 
>> can simply install that program in whatever template you use (debian, 
>> fedora ... whatever) 
>>
>> > 1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
>> > Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ? 
>>
>> You installed it via RPM so the clean way is to uninstall it via 'sudo 
>> dnf erase name_of_the_package' in dom0 
>>
>> > 2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
>> > manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ? 
>>
>> That would result in issues down the road if you'd ever want to install 
>> this template again (basically you would leave the system in a state 
>> where it thinks the template is already installed). Don't do that. 
>>
>> > 3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
>> > template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique 
>> ? 
>>
>> Follow these instruction inside the template: 
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line#40781
>>  
>>
>> /Sven 
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>
> Thank, you very much !
>
> I prefer a GUI-approach, but if that can't be done, I'll try the terminal 
> as a secondary/last approach.
>
> I'll look into it.
>
 

I have tried to uninstall the template by executing this command in dom0:  sudo 
dnf erase qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 


Then the terminal return:
"No match for argument: 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 

Error: No packages marked for removal."

What shall I write instead of "
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm 
"
 
?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 18.51.56 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:36:24AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be 
> the 
> > reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM 
> ? - 
> > you may see my other thread about this. 
>
> Nope. For that you only have to check the assigned IP, subnet and 
> gateway in the Qube Manager UI for that particular qube and then apply 
> those settings inside the HVM. 
>
> See also "Setting up networking for HVMs" on this page: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ 
>
> > When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
> > programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again 
> and 
> > just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
> > Debian template... ? 
>
> I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly. 
>
> -> Using the Qube Manager you can select which applications that are 
> installed in any particular template will show in the Qube Menu. 
>
> -> If all this effort was only about a particular program then yes: you 
> should have stated your need / intent more clearly at the beginning. You 
> can simply install that program in whatever template you use (debian, 
> fedora ... whatever) 
>
> > 1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
> > Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ? 
>
> You installed it via RPM so the clean way is to uninstall it via 'sudo 
> dnf erase name_of_the_package' in dom0 
>
> > 2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
> > manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ? 
>
> That would result in issues down the road if you'd ever want to install 
> this template again (basically you would leave the system in a state 
> where it thinks the template is already installed). Don't do that. 
>
> > 3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
> > template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique 
> ? 
>
> Follow these instruction inside the template: 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line#40781
>  
>
> /Sven 
>
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>

Thank, you very much !

I prefer a GUI-approach, but if that can't be done, I'll try the terminal 
as a secondary/last approach.

I'll look into it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:36:24AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be the 
> reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM ? - 
> you may see my other thread about this.

Nope. For that you only have to check the assigned IP, subnet and
gateway in the Qube Manager UI for that particular qube and then apply
those settings inside the HVM. 

See also "Setting up networking for HVMs" on this page: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/

> When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
> programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again and 
> just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
> Debian template... ?

I'm not entirely sure I understand your question correctly.

-> Using the Qube Manager you can select which applications that are
installed in any particular template will show in the Qube Menu.

-> If all this effort was only about a particular program then yes: you
should have stated your need / intent more clearly at the beginning. You
can simply install that program in whatever template you use (debian,
fedora ... whatever)

> 1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
> Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ?

You installed it via RPM so the clean way is to uninstall it via 'sudo
dnf erase name_of_the_package' in dom0

> 2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
> manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ?

That would result in issues down the road if you'd ever want to install
this template again (basically you would leave the system in a state
where it thinks the template is already installed). Don't do that.

> 3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
> template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique ?

Follow these instruction inside the template: 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line#40781

/Sven

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 16.22.24 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 03:10:07AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > After the installation, I get a short-cut in the "Qubes menu" labelled 
> > "Template: bionic-desktop" with these sub-short-cuts: 1) Help, 2) Qube 
> > Settings and 3) Terminal. 
> > 
> > When pressing on help, a Ubuntu help page appear. 
> > 
> > I don't see any sign of a GUI desktop... 
>
> In Qubes the desktop currently resides in Dom0 and is XFCE by default. 
> The "-desktop" part in the name of the template simply means that the 
> template contains all the Ubuntu desktop applications. 
>
> If you actually want a window with the Ubuntu desktop your only option 
> is to install Ubuntu in a HVM, but then you need to install the specific 
> qubes agent programs in it to restore the file transfer / copy & paste 
> facilities. 
>
> Tip: if you launch "Qube Settings" and go to the applications tab you 
> will see a list of all the apps that are available in this template. By 
> adding them to the right side, they will appear in the Qubes Menu. Maybe 
> that gives you what you want? 
>
> /Sven 
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>

Arh, thank you. I didn't know that.

Can the need to install the specific qubes agent programs in the HVM be the 
reason why I haven't been able to surf the web from inside a Debian HVM ? - 
you may see my other thread about this.

When it is possible to only make shortcuts in the Qube Menu for the 
programs that I would like to use, can I then delete the template again and 
just install the music programs I would like to use in the preinstalled 
Debian template... ?

If so:

1)  Shall I just delete the Ubuntu template Qube again by open the Qube 
Manager and click on delete qube, or do I have to delete other things ?

2)  Can I just delete the Template file from dom0 by using the file 
manager, or do I have to delete or edit other files and if so which ?

3)  How can I install a specific program in the preinstalled Debian 10 
template - for example this program: https://flavio.tordini.org/musique ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 03:10:07AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> After the installation, I get a short-cut in the "Qubes menu" labelled 
> "Template: bionic-desktop" with these sub-short-cuts: 1) Help, 2) Qube 
> Settings and 3) Terminal.
> 
> When pressing on help, a Ubuntu help page appear.
> 
> I don't see any sign of a GUI desktop...

In Qubes the desktop currently resides in Dom0 and is XFCE by default.
The "-desktop" part in the name of the template simply means that the
template contains all the Ubuntu desktop applications. 

If you actually want a window with the Ubuntu desktop your only option
is to install Ubuntu in a HVM, but then you need to install the specific
qubes agent programs in it to restore the file transfer / copy & paste
facilities. 

Tip: if you launch "Qube Settings" and go to the applications tab you
will see a list of all the apps that are available in this template. By
adding them to the right side, they will appear in the Qubes Menu. Maybe
that gives you what you want?

/Sven

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[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
tirsdag den 17. marts 2020 kl. 11.01.14 UTC+1 skrev M:
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> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 21.41.32 UTC+1 skrev drbg...@gmail.com:
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>> I installed Ubuntu as a HVM and had to muck around with the disc it 
>> installed on as I said (xvda/xvdb etc).  Some worked some didn't.
>>
>> With regards to resolution I did try from within Ubuntu but the maximum 
>> resolution was I think 800X600 which is tiny and it didn't give me any more 
>> options.  Supposedly this is fixable, but I didn't go there.  If you get 
>> that far you will see that the display window cuts off your ability to 
>> access the resolution drop down bar on the right.  Grab the window in the 
>> middle and pull the entire thing to the left and you can then get to the 
>> drop down bar, but mine only had the one resolution option.
>>
>> I didn't go down the template path but Sven kindly posted this below as a 
>> guide.  It probably recreates what you said, but it may provide some finer 
>> detail.  
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>> Again, let me know how you get on. 
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>> under/home/user/Downloads/template.rm in that 'web' VM.You want to transfer 
>> it to dom0.So in dom0 you will be using a command called qvm-run, which 
>> allows youto run/start programs inside VMs. It has a parameter called 
>> --pass-iowhich let's you see the output of that program in your dom0 
>> terminal.You can test this for example with a simple text file. In your 
>> 'web' VMstart a terminal and use gedit to create a text file test.txt in 
>> yourhome directory (/home/user/test.txt). Put some "hello world!" 
>> textinside and safe it / close gedit. Not in your terminal write 
>> "cat/home/user/test.txt" and you will see the contents of that text file 
>> inthe terminal.Next, go to dom0 and open a terminal there. In that terminal 
>> write:"qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/test.txt'"Now you see the 
>> context of the text file in your dom0 terminal. Thefinal step is to add 
>> something to the end of this command: "qvm-run--pass-io web 'cat 
>> /home/user/test.txt' > /home/user/test.txtWhen you run this, instead of 
>> seeing the output in the terminal it isnow written into /home/user/test.txt 
>> in dom0! You can verify with "cat/home/user/test.txt"I've explained this 
>> with a little text file to make it easy tounderstand. Back to your 
>> /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm in the webVM. We can use the same 
>> mechanism:qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm' 
>> >/home/user/template.rpmIt'll take a few secondes or maybe even a minute 
>> depending on yourcomputer and the size of the file. But when it's done you 
>> know havesuccessfully copied the template.rpm into dom0 and can now runsudo 
>> dnf install template.rpmThis is all described a bit more brief 
>> athttps://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ 
>> Cheers,/Sven*
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>> On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:12:35 UTC+11, M wrote:
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>>> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:

 Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get 
 a small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
 Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
 adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
 https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing 
 the template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on 
 how to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.

 I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
 around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
 drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
 that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
 install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
 gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
 template in qubes which was a better result anyway.

 Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  

>>>
>>>
>>> 1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)
>>>
>>> 2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
>>> resolutions in Ubuntu ? - although you can't get full screen, it should be 
>>> possible to get it at least almost full screen. It works in both Windows 
>>> 10, Linux Mint and Debian 10.3.
>>>
>>> 3)  For me it's fine if just I can get on the internet from within 
>>> Ubuntu by using a cable connection ? - I haven't been able to get it 
>>> working in a Debian GUI HVM, but at least in a Windows 10 and Linux Mint 
>>> HVM. But I

[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-17 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 21.41.32 UTC+1 skrev drbg...@gmail.com:
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> I installed Ubuntu as a HVM and had to muck around with the disc it 
> installed on as I said (xvda/xvdb etc).  Some worked some didn't.
>
> With regards to resolution I did try from within Ubuntu but the maximum 
> resolution was I think 800X600 which is tiny and it didn't give me any more 
> options.  Supposedly this is fixable, but I didn't go there.  If you get 
> that far you will see that the display window cuts off your ability to 
> access the resolution drop down bar on the right.  Grab the window in the 
> middle and pull the entire thing to the left and you can then get to the 
> drop down bar, but mine only had the one resolution option.
>
> I didn't go down the template path but Sven kindly posted this below as a 
> guide.  It probably recreates what you said, but it may provide some finer 
> detail.  
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> Again, let me know how you get on. 
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> downloaded a file'template.rpm' which is not stored 
> under/home/user/Downloads/template.rm in that 'web' VM.You want to transfer 
> it to dom0.So in dom0 you will be using a command called qvm-run, which 
> allows youto run/start programs inside VMs. It has a parameter called 
> --pass-iowhich let's you see the output of that program in your dom0 
> terminal.You can test this for example with a simple text file. In your 
> 'web' VMstart a terminal and use gedit to create a text file test.txt in 
> yourhome directory (/home/user/test.txt). Put some "hello world!" 
> textinside and safe it / close gedit. Not in your terminal write 
> "cat/home/user/test.txt" and you will see the contents of that text file 
> inthe terminal.Next, go to dom0 and open a terminal there. In that terminal 
> write:"qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/test.txt'"Now you see the 
> context of the text file in your dom0 terminal. Thefinal step is to add 
> something to the end of this command: "qvm-run--pass-io web 'cat 
> /home/user/test.txt' > /home/user/test.txtWhen you run this, instead of 
> seeing the output in the terminal it isnow written into /home/user/test.txt 
> in dom0! You can verify with "cat/home/user/test.txt"I've explained this 
> with a little text file to make it easy tounderstand. Back to your 
> /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm in the webVM. We can use the same 
> mechanism:qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm' 
> >/home/user/template.rpmIt'll take a few secondes or maybe even a minute 
> depending on yourcomputer and the size of the file. But when it's done you 
> know havesuccessfully copied the template.rpm into dom0 and can now runsudo 
> dnf install template.rpmThis is all described a bit more brief 
> athttps://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ 
> Cheers,/Sven*
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> On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:12:35 UTC+11, M wrote:
>>
>> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get 
>>> a small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
>>> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
>>> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
>>> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
>>> template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
>>> to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>>>
>>> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
>>> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
>>> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
>>> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
>>> install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
>>> gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
>>> template in qubes which was a better result anyway.
>>>
>>> Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  
>>>
>>
>>
>> 1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)
>>
>> 2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
>> resolutions in Ubuntu ? - although you can't get full screen, it should be 
>> possible to get it at least almost full screen. It works in both Windows 
>> 10, Linux Mint and Debian 10.3.
>>
>> 3)  For me it's fine if just I can get on the internet from within Ubuntu 
>> by using a cable connection ? - I haven't been able to get it working in a 
>> Debian GUI HVM, but at least in a Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVM. But I 
>> would like to install a program that only works with Debian and Ubuntu, so 
>> I need to at least get either Debian or Ubuntu to work and being able to 
>> connect to the internet.
>>
>> 4)

[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-16 Thread drbgward 
I installed Ubuntu as a HVM and had to muck around with the disc it 
installed on as I said (xvda/xvdb etc).  Some worked some didn't.

With regards to resolution I did try from within Ubuntu but the maximum 
resolution was I think 800X600 which is tiny and it didn't give me any more 
options.  Supposedly this is fixable, but I didn't go there.  If you get 
that far you will see that the display window cuts off your ability to 
access the resolution drop down bar on the right.  Grab the window in the 
middle and pull the entire thing to the left and you can then get to the 
drop down bar, but mine only had the one resolution option.

I didn't go down the template path but Sven kindly posted this below as a 
guide.  It probably recreates what you said, but it may provide some finer 
detail.  

Again, let me know how you get on. 

Here's the post:  


















































*I'll take a shot at it.Let's say you have a VM called 'web' in which you 
downloaded a file'template.rpm' which is not stored 
under/home/user/Downloads/template.rm in that 'web' VM.You want to transfer 
it to dom0.So in dom0 you will be using a command called qvm-run, which 
allows youto run/start programs inside VMs. It has a parameter called 
--pass-iowhich let's you see the output of that program in your dom0 
terminal.You can test this for example with a simple text file. In your 
'web' VMstart a terminal and use gedit to create a text file test.txt in 
yourhome directory (/home/user/test.txt). Put some "hello world!" 
textinside and safe it / close gedit. Not in your terminal write 
"cat/home/user/test.txt" and you will see the contents of that text file 
inthe terminal.Next, go to dom0 and open a terminal there. In that terminal 
write:"qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/test.txt'"Now you see the 
context of the text file in your dom0 terminal. Thefinal step is to add 
something to the end of this command: "qvm-run--pass-io web 'cat 
/home/user/test.txt' > /home/user/test.txtWhen you run this, instead of 
seeing the output in the terminal it isnow written into /home/user/test.txt 
in dom0! You can verify with "cat/home/user/test.txt"I've explained this 
with a little text file to make it easy tounderstand. Back to your 
/home/user/Downloads/template.rpm in the webVM. We can use the same 
mechanism:qvm-run --pass-io web 'cat /home/user/Downloads/template.rpm' 
>/home/user/template.rpmIt'll take a few secondes or maybe even a minute 
depending on yourcomputer and the size of the file. But when it's done you 
know havesuccessfully copied the template.rpm into dom0 and can now runsudo 
dnf install template.rpmThis is all described a bit more brief 
athttps://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/ 
Cheers,/Sven*





On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:12:35 UTC+11, M wrote:
>
> mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>>
>> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get a 
>> small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
>> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
>> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
>> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
>> template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
>> to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>>
>> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
>> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
>> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
>> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
>> install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
>> gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
>> template in qubes which was a better result anyway.
>>
>> Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  
>>
>
>
> 1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)
>
> 2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
> resolutions in Ubuntu ? - although you can't get full screen, it should be 
> possible to get it at least almost full screen. It works in both Windows 
> 10, Linux Mint and Debian 10.3.
>
> 3)  For me it's fine if just I can get on the internet from within Ubuntu 
> by using a cable connection ? - I haven't been able to get it working in a 
> Debian GUI HVM, but at least in a Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVM. But I 
> would like to install a program that only works with Debian and Ubuntu, so 
> I need to at least get either Debian or Ubuntu to work and being able to 
> connect to the internet.
>
> 4)  Thanks for the link. For me this one sounds relevant: 
> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm
>   
> as I guess it has a desktop with a GUI.
>  To use it, shall I then just download it to a

[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-16 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
mandag den 16. marts 2020 kl. 18.48.13 UTC+1 skrev redpo...@gmail.com:
>
> Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get a 
> small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
> Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
> adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
> https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
> template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
> to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.
>
> I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
> around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
> drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
> that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
> install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
> gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
> template in qubes which was a better result anyway.
>
> Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  
>


1)  Thanks for the optimistic view. :)

2)  Regarding the small window: Have you tried to change the screen 
resolutions in Ubuntu ? - although you can't get full screen, it should be 
possible to get it at least almost full screen. It works in both Windows 
10, Linux Mint and Debian 10.3.

3)  For me it's fine if just I can get on the internet from within Ubuntu 
by using a cable connection ? - I haven't been able to get it working in a 
Debian GUI HVM, but at least in a Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVM. But I 
would like to install a program that only works with Debian and Ubuntu, so 
I need to at least get either Debian or Ubuntu to work and being able to 
connect to the internet.

4)  Thanks for the link. For me this one sounds relevant: 
https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm
  
as I guess it has a desktop with a GUI.
 To use it, shall I then just download it to a VM, copy it to dom0 by 
executing this command; qvm-run -p  "cat '/home/user/Downloads/
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm'" > 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm  I guess "
" shall be replaced by the name of the new template, is that 
correct ?
 And do I then just need to run this command to execute the file and 
get the template created with a GUI desktop: chmod +x 
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm && ./
qubes-template-bionic-desktop-4.0.1-202001121248.noarch.rpm ?

5)  Do I understand you correctly, that you installed Ubuntu as LVM, and 
that worked... ? - If so, what options did you change. to make it work ? - 
Then I might try that first.


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[qubes-users] Re: How to get Ubuntu 18.04 running in a HVM with a GUI desktop in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

2020-03-16 Thread redpollwan 
Good luck with this.  I have managed to install Ubuntu but you only get a 
small window (which apparently is fixable but I didn't go there).  
Networking is difficult and I could never get it to recognise my wifi 
adapter.  You could always try and install an Ubuntu template from here: 
https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/  but that entails installing the 
template in dom0 which I wasn't real keen on.  There is guide here on how 
to do it.  Let me know if you can't find it and you want it.

I also into the problems that you are citing.  I solved it by mucking 
around with installing it on xvda then xvdb etc.  I changed the virtual 
drive installation options and it worked.  But I'm just letting you know 
that you will opening a door to some more challenges.  I was trying to 
install Ubuntu because I know it and I can set up my printers etc, but I 
gave up and went through the learning of doing all of this on a Fedora 
template in qubes which was a better result anyway.

Good luck.  Let us know how you go.  

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