[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 2:50:25 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > On 08/17/2018 03:13 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > On Fri, August 17, 2018 6:03 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > >> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > >> > >>> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > >>> > Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I > want Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good > I7 laptop with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, > is the following correct? > > I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. > > > 1 Physically install both drives > > > 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows > ISO > > > 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right > drive next > > 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM > Windows UEFI to other OS (correct?) > > > 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO > > > This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working > with two drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive > to qubes. So, am I following the advice here?: > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, > deselect the 'Format' option, continue with installation. > > > Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then > manually modify the grub file? > > > Thanks, > Patrick > > > >>> > >>> Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve > >>> Grub , probably won't be a problem .. > >>> > >>> > >>> In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with > >>> the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns > >>> me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works ymmv, > >>> why not try it > >>> > >>> what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like > >>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot > >>> > >>> > >>> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting > >> > >> Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will > >> need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 > >> or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the > >> windows drive and then allow to choose it... Anyway you're right, I > >> think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out. > > > > UEFI uses an EFI partition on one of your drives, so if you pull the > > Windows drive it might get confused. You can try it, but if you have > > problems might want to re-install with legacy/grub boot for both OSes. > > > > > > I don't think Grub has to be involved at all, you just change the boot > order in the Bios-Uefi > > If it doesn't work pulling the drive, just leave it, When I put either > win10 or Q4.0 , there is no Grub choice being asked I have an HP Elitebook with 2 SSDs. I have the bios set to prompt me to select the boot drive for 10 seconds, then default to booting the first drive (windows 10). Currently the second drive has a Linux distro, forget which, but I am hoping I can install Qubes to it without having the install try to install grub on the first drive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4a1cb7a9-9837-43cf-8151-c18a882f5c63%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 2:50:25 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > On 08/17/2018 03:13 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > On Fri, August 17, 2018 6:03 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > >> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > >> > >>> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > >>> > Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I > want Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good > I7 laptop with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, > is the following correct? > > I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. > > > 1 Physically install both drives > > > 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows > ISO > > > 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right > drive next > > 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM > Windows UEFI to other OS (correct?) > > > 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO > > > This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working > with two drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive > to qubes. So, am I following the advice here?: > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, > deselect the 'Format' option, continue with installation. > > > Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then > manually modify the grub file? > > > Thanks, > Patrick > > > >>> > >>> Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve > >>> Grub , probably won't be a problem .. > >>> > >>> > >>> In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with > >>> the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns > >>> me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works ymmv, > >>> why not try it > >>> > >>> what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like > >>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot > >>> > >>> > >>> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting > >> > >> Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will > >> need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 > >> or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the > >> windows drive and then allow to choose it... Anyway you're right, I > >> think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out. > > > > UEFI uses an EFI partition on one of your drives, so if you pull the > > Windows drive it might get confused. You can try it, but if you have > > problems might want to re-install with legacy/grub boot for both OSes. > > > > > > I don't think Grub has to be involved at all, you just change the boot > order in the Bios-Uefi > > If it doesn't work pulling the drive, just leave it, When I put either > win10 or Q4.0 , there is no Grub choice being asked Thanks to you both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8a599a74-12ec-43cd-a091-155bf7f91e5a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On 08/17/2018 03:13 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > On Fri, August 17, 2018 6:03 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote: >> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: >> >>> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: >>> Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I want Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good I7 laptop with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, is the following correct? I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. 1 Physically install both drives 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows ISO 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right drive next 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM Windows UEFI to other OS (correct?) 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working with two drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive to qubes. So, am I following the advice here?: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, deselect the 'Format' option, continue with installation. Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then manually modify the grub file? Thanks, Patrick >>> >>> Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve >>> Grub , probably won't be a problem .. >>> >>> >>> In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with >>> the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns >>> me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works ymmv, >>> why not try it >>> >>> what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like >>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot >>> >>> >>> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting >> >> Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will >> need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 >> or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the >> windows drive and then allow to choose it... Anyway you're right, I >> think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out. > > UEFI uses an EFI partition on one of your drives, so if you pull the > Windows drive it might get confused. You can try it, but if you have > problems might want to re-install with legacy/grub boot for both OSes. > > I don't think Grub has to be involved at all, you just change the boot order in the Bios-Uefi If it doesn't work pulling the drive, just leave it, When I put either win10 or Q4.0 , there is no Grub choice being asked -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2d7d4483-7c69-2794-101d-be085b77454d%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On Fri, August 17, 2018 6:03 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > >> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: >> >>> Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I >>> want Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good >>> I7 laptop with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, >>> is the following correct? >>> >>> I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. >>> >>> >>> 1 Physically install both drives >>> >>> >>> 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows >>> ISO >>> >>> >>> 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right >>> drive next >>> >>> 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM >>> Windows UEFI to other OS (correct?) >>> >>> >>> 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO >>> >>> >>> This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working >>> with two drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive >>> to qubes. So, am I following the advice here?: >>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ >>> - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, >>> deselect the 'Format' option, continue with installation. >>> >>> >>> Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then >>> manually modify the grub file? >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Patrick >>> >>> >> >> Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve >> Grub , probably won't be a problem .. >> >> >> In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with >> the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns >> me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works ymmv, >> why not try it >> >> what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like >> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot >> >> >> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting > > Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will > need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 > or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the > windows drive and then allow to choose it... Anyway you're right, I > think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out. UEFI uses an EFI partition on one of your drives, so if you pull the Windows drive it might get confused. You can try it, but if you have problems might want to re-install with legacy/grub boot for both OSes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0c8c19149b1399665e3509da082bc254.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote: > On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > > Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I want > > Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good I7 laptop > > with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, is the following > > correct? > > > > I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. > > > > 1 Physically install both drives > > > > 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows ISO > > > > 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right drive next > > > > 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM Windows > > UEFI to other OS (correct?) > > > > 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO > > > > This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working with two > > drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive to qubes. So, > > am I following the advice here?: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > > - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, > > deselect the > > 'Format' option, continue with installation. > > > > Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then manually > > modify the grub file? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Patrick > > > > Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve > Grub , probably won't be a problem .. > > In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with > the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which > concerns me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi > works ymmv, why not try it > > what is a "windows uefi" ? > looks to me like > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot > > doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the windows drive and then allow to choose it... Anyway you're right, I think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/89bad39d-924e-4ba8-81a4-bdc7fd92f10d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?
On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote: > Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I want > Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good I7 laptop > with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, is the following > correct? > > I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either. > > 1 Physically install both drives > > 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows ISO > > 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right drive next > > 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM Windows UEFI > to other OS (correct?) > > 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO > > This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working with two > drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive to qubes. So, am > I following the advice here?: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, deselect > the > 'Format' option, continue with installation. > > Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then manually > modify the grub file? > > > Thanks, > Patrick > Sounds like what I did/do with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve Grub , probably won't be a problem .. In my case however, the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with the drive name, but changes it to "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works ymmv, why not try it what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2efb6aec-c949-f5fc-6d4c-7420f9a7d8f4%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
