Re: [qubes-users] create new VM freeze screen 1

2016-06-18 Thread Chris Laprise



On 06/18/2016 02:55 PM, 109348'109438'0193284'0913284'092183'0491820439 
wrote:

Hi Chris,

used 2777284
free 17995792
shared 338500
buffers 62024
cached 2037140

buffer/cache used 67812 free 80117772

swap 8011772 used 0

create Fedora23 AppVM = 6 Seconds, yes
create Debian8 AppVM = 5 Seconds, yes

But this was after a fresh restart of Q (before it took some kind of minutes).

Kind Regards



When it slows down again, check 'free' again.

Also, this grinding slowdown can be caused by a vm that's swapping a 
lot. If you've been playing around with PCI passthrough, you probably 
turned off memory balancing without realizing you left that vm with very 
little memory to use.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] create new VM freeze screen 1

2016-06-18 Thread Chris Laprise



On 06/18/2016 08:48 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:

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On 2016-06-18 05:29, '098134'0194328'017834'01783'40917834209 wrote:

Hallo,

it is a little strange, always if I create a new VM (which takes
several minutes), than the system response time for manual inputs
(like typing something in an editor) is endless.

But there should be plenty CPU and RAM available.

It looks like that this is only effected all applications, which
are shown on the same screen. So screen two seems ok.

Why is this behavior?

Can I define some parameter, which guides me to some liquid user
experience?

Kind Reagards


I've noticed the same thing, but it doesn't seem to be affected by
which screen an application is on. My CPU usage (as reported by the
KDE widget) spikes, so I assumed that was it.



Hmmm, create new vm on my system = 5 seconds.

This sounds like low memory and lots of swapping. Check the amount of 
swap usage with 'free'.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] create new VM freeze screen 1

2016-06-18 Thread '019438'019384'0914328'091328'409182'039481'09324
Hallo Andrew,

I used the KDE Desktop System Information view. So I can see some burst up to 
80% CPU usage. But normally it is lower than 40% (X8 3.5GHrz 32 GB RAM).

So there must be plenty room to type some text in parallel inside a text-editor.

I thought to copy a VM would generate mostly IO stress and some SAN-like 
buffering, will help to accelerate this job (see upTempo).

Kind Regards


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Re: [qubes-users] create new VM freeze screen 1

2016-06-18 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-06-18 05:29, '098134'0194328'017834'01783'40917834209 wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> it is a little strange, always if I create a new VM (which takes
> several minutes), than the system response time for manual inputs
> (like typing something in an editor) is endless.
> 
> But there should be plenty CPU and RAM available.
> 
> It looks like that this is only effected all applications, which
> are shown on the same screen. So screen two seems ok.
> 
> Why is this behavior?
> 
> Can I define some parameter, which guides me to some liquid user
> experience?
> 
> Kind Reagards
> 

I've noticed the same thing, but it doesn't seem to be affected by
which screen an application is on. My CPU usage (as reported by the
KDE widget) spikes, so I assumed that was it.

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