Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions

2018-09-18 Thread Wolf moon
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 12:30:51 UTC+1, unman  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote:
> > Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security 
> > engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. 
> > 
> > My only issue is logging into my vpn service. 
> > 
> > I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to 
> > Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this 
> > is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my 
> > vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and 
> > emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. 
> > 
> > My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which 
> > I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine 
> > on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download.
> > 
> > Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, 
> > I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. 
> > 
> > I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this 
> > on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked.
> > 
> > Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Wolf Moon
> > 
> 
> Hi Wolf Man
> 
> Welcome to Qubes.
> 
> It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is:
> "still no joy" doesn't mean anything.
> 
> Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches.
> Which one did you try?
> How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes?
> 
> Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are
> trying to put in place.
> Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I
> mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post.
> 
> The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to
> help.
> 
> cheers
> 
> unman

HI Unman check my detailed reply at the bottom. Thank you for the reply. Hope 
this helps us get further! 

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Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions

2018-09-16 Thread Stuart Perkins



On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 12:30:47 +0100
unman  wrote:

>On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote:
>> Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security 
>> engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it. 
>> 
>> My only issue is logging into my vpn service. 
>> 
>> I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to 
>> Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this 
>> is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my 
>> vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and 
>> emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy. 
>> 
>> My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I 
>> found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on 
>> my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download.
>> 
>> Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I 
>> am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. 
>> 
>> I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this 
>> on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked.
>> 
>> Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Wolf Moon
>>   
>
>Hi Wolf Man
>
>Welcome to Qubes.
>
>It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is:
>"still no joy" doesn't mean anything.
>
>Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches.
>Which one did you try?
>How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes?
>
>Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are
>trying to put in place.
>Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I
>mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post.
>
>The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to
>help.
>
>cheers
>
>unman
>
>

I have two different VPN's I use for different purposes.  I have a cisco 
provided VPN for a client which I connect to via openconnect from within a 
dedicated appVM, and I run an OpenVPN server on my home network and connect to 
it through the OpenVPN client when not at home from a clone of sys-net for the 
purpose.  I switch which sys-net I run based on if I need to connect to home or 
not, or I simply don't run the OpenVPN client if I'm using the sys-net with the 
OpenVPN client but don't need to connect.  There are quite a few different ways 
to skin this cat.

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Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions

2018-09-16 Thread Chris Laprise

On 09/16/2018 07:30 AM, unman wrote:

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote:

Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security engineering ) 
all working fine and learning my way around it.

My only issue is logging into my vpn service.

I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to 
Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this is 
a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my vpn 
service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and emailed me 
back a step by step guide but still no joy.

My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I 
found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on my 
windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download.

Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I am 
learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux.

I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this on 
my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked.

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

Wolf Moon



Hi Wolf Man

Welcome to Qubes.

It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is:
"still no joy" doesn't mean anything.

Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches.
Which one did you try?
How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes?

Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are
trying to put in place.
Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I
mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post.

The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to
help.

cheers

unman


Specifics are definitely needed for questions like this.

The thing that usually confuses people about the current (old) Qubes doc 
is there is no button for "ProxyVM" on the R4.0 Create VM dialog. The 
way to do this in R4.0 is to click on "Provides network" instead.


The newer (proposed) doc + qubes-tunnel as suggested by awokd are much 
easier to install and run more smoothly, BTW.


https://github.com/tasket/qubes-doc/blob/tunnel/configuration/vpn.md

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Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions

2018-09-16 Thread unman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 08:21:53PM -0700, Wolf moon wrote:
> Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security engineering 
> ) all working fine and learning my way around it. 
> 
> My only issue is logging into my vpn service. 
> 
> I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different to 
> Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that this 
> is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also contacted my 
> vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes instructions and emailed 
> me back a step by step guide but still no joy. 
> 
> My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line ( which I 
> found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and works fine on 
> my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you download.
> 
> Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore techy, I 
> am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line in linux. 
> 
> I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve this 
> on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I checked.
> 
> Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Wolf Moon
> 

Hi Wolf Man

Welcome to Qubes.

It would be easier to help if you gave some idea of what the problem is:
"still no joy" doesn't mean anything.

Also, "the Qubes instructions" cover a number of different approaches.
Which one did you try?
How did the instructions provided by your provider differ from the Qubes?

Can you say what provider is involved, and what flavour of vpn you are
trying to put in place.
Look in the log files for the service, and post relevant extracts - I
mean take some time to review the log yourself and then post.

The more relevant information you provide, the easier it will be to
help.

cheers

unman


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Re: [qubes-users] New to Qubes having issues logging into my vpn service despite following the Qubes instructions

2018-09-16 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Sat, September 15, 2018 3:21 am, Wolf moon wrote:
> Hi guys New to Qubes ( which is an amazing feat of cyber security
> engineering ) all working fine and learning my way around it.
>
> My only issue is logging into my vpn service.
>
>
> I have followed the Qubes instructions ( which the images are different
> to Qubes 4.0 and after searching the net on this matter someone said that
> this is a shot of the previous Qubes so not helpful there ) I also
> contacted my vpn service on the matter. They read up on the Qubes
> instructions and emailed me back a step by step guide but still no joy.
>
> My vpn service works well on my Raspberry Pi 3 in the command line (
> which I found simple instructions for elsewhere on the internet ) and
> works fine on my windows 10 system as its got an app interface you
> download.
>
> Its just Qubes I am having issues with. I am by no means a hardcore
> techy, I am learning and not afraid or unfamiliar using the command line
> in linux.

See updated instructions here:
https://github.com/tasket/qubes-doc/blob/tunnel/configuration/vpn.md, but
note that qubes-tunnel (available from the same author at
https://github.com/tasket/qubes-tunnel) has not yet been officially
blessed by the Qubes team.

> I have contacted the Qubes team after trying my best effort to resolve
> this on my own as I know they are a small team of 5 or so last time I
> checked.

There are others on this mailing list besides the Qubes core team that can
sometimes help, so ask away!


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