Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second info in ntp-4.2.4p4

2015-06-02 Thread Harlan Stenn
Mohan Kannekanti writes:
 Hi,
 
 We are currently using ntpd version 4.2.4p4.

Please see http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline and
understand your choice.

You are running software that was released in December of 2006, and was
EOL'd in December of 2009 with 4.2.6, which fixed between 630-1000
issues.

4.2.6 was EOL'd in December of 2014 by the release of 4.2.8, which fixed
over 1,100 issues.

 As Leap second insertion is very close, we are trying to be safe from it.
 
 here are few questions,
 
 - Is 4.2.4p4 capable of receiving Leap Second information from NTP
 servers??

Yes.

   Below is our configuration.
 
   server time.nist.gov  maxpoll  10  minpoll  6
disable monitor
restrict default noquery
restrict -6 default noquery
 
 - Is there any way that I can test whether the current version is providing
 of Leap Second??
 
 - Are there any configuration changes required??

Required, no.

Useful, almost certainly.  For example, you could keep an updated
leapseconds file on your server and refer to that in your config file.

Have you tested your kernels to make sure they can handle a leap second?

What about how your client machines will behave during the leap second?

 - If our version is not good for handling leap second,
 
   1. What will be closest version to upgrade from 4.2.4p4.?? or

Why would you *not* want to run the latest release of NTP?

   2. Any patches that we can apply to make 4.2.4p4 safe.??

Perhaps, but you'd have to:

- look at somewhere between 1,700 and 2,100 patches
- decide which ones you wanted
- apply and test the patches

I'd also recommend your company (and EVERYBODY else who cares about
network time) join the NTP Consortium at Network Time Foundation now:

 http://nwtime.org/membership/why-join/

The bind-9 tarball is about 8MB.  The ntp tarball is about 6.5MB.

We don't have even 5% of the resources to develop and maintain NTP that
ISC has to develop and maintain BIND.
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Re: [ntp:questions] Leap second info in ntp-4.2.4p4

2015-06-02 Thread Mohan Kannekanti

Hi Harlan,

Thanks for the information. I understand your points. I'm *only* trying 
to be get leap second fixes at the moment as we don't have much time to 
test the new ntpd feature across all our platforms.


Yes, I'm testing the kernels too.

Also, I'll definitely encourage our folks to be part of NTP Consortium.

Thanks,
Mohan.


On 06/02/2015 11:05 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote:

Mohan Kannekanti writes:

Hi,

We are currently using ntpd version 4.2.4p4.

Please see http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/ReleaseTimeline and
understand your choice.

You are running software that was released in December of 2006, and was
EOL'd in December of 2009 with 4.2.6, which fixed between 630-1000
issues.

4.2.6 was EOL'd in December of 2014 by the release of 4.2.8, which fixed
over 1,100 issues.


As Leap second insertion is very close, we are trying to be safe from it.

here are few questions,

- Is 4.2.4p4 capable of receiving Leap Second information from NTP
servers??

Yes.


   Below is our configuration.

   server time.nist.gov  maxpoll  10  minpoll  6
disable monitor
restrict default noquery
restrict -6 default noquery

- Is there any way that I can test whether the current version is providing
of Leap Second??

- Are there any configuration changes required??

Required, no.

Useful, almost certainly.  For example, you could keep an updated
leapseconds file on your server and refer to that in your config file.

Have you tested your kernels to make sure they can handle a leap second?

What about how your client machines will behave during the leap second?


- If our version is not good for handling leap second,

   1. What will be closest version to upgrade from 4.2.4p4.?? or

Why would you *not* want to run the latest release of NTP?


   2. Any patches that we can apply to make 4.2.4p4 safe.??

Perhaps, but you'd have to:

- look at somewhere between 1,700 and 2,100 patches
- decide which ones you wanted
- apply and test the patches

I'd also recommend your company (and EVERYBODY else who cares about
network time) join the NTP Consortium at Network Time Foundation now:

  http://nwtime.org/membership/why-join/

The bind-9 tarball is about 8MB.  The ntp tarball is about 6.5MB.

We don't have even 5% of the resources to develop and maintain NTP that
ISC has to develop and maintain BIND.



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Re: [ntp:questions] VMWare as a NTP server

2015-06-02 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 01/06/15 14:45, Louis Demers wrote:
 Hello,
 What is your opinion about using a VM as NTP server?
 

Don't do it if you need accuracy. If you can't run ntpd on the bare
metal (e.g. for security reasons, or because the platform doesn't
support it) and if you can't justify dedicating a small box to ntpd then
I assume that accuracy won't be a significant factor for you.

ntpd will probably still work when run in a VM, but the stability of the
clock (and therefore the accuracy of the time served) will be far worse
than running ntpd on the bare metal of the same machine.

Jan
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[ntp:questions] VMWare as a NTP server

2015-06-02 Thread Louis Demers

Hello,
What is your opinion about using a VM as NTP server?

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