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MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.8.1 Subject: Re: [questions] Mailing list configuration changes?! Content-Language: en-US To: questions@lists.ntp.org References: From: "Steve 'Hollywood' Sobol - NTF" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 4/26/2022 2:32, Aymeric wrote: > Hi, > > There used to be a "list-id" header for this mailing list set to > "lists.ntp.org", it seem this has been removed since 25 april.. > > Any reason why? Can we have it back? It should be back now. -- This is questions@lists.ntp.org Subscribe: questions+subscr...@lists.ntp.org Unsubscribe: questions+unsubscr...@lists.ntp.org
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MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.8.1 Subject: Re: [questions] Archive of ntp.org mailing lists Content-Language: en-US To: questions@lists.ntp.org References: <1498932aa6b2927c14eaa0029d132...@ausics.net> From: "Steve 'Hollywood' Sobol - NTF" In-Reply-To: <1498932aa6b2927c14eaa0029d132...@ausics.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 4/26/2022 2:03, Noel Butler wrote: > > Why the hell has the list-id and x-beenthere been removed from headers? > We moved to mlmmj, which does not add those headers. I have fixed that... the headers should appear in this message. -- This is questions@lists.ntp.org Subscribe: questions+subscr...@lists.ntp.org Unsubscribe: questions+unsubscr...@lists.ntp.org
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On 7/30/2013 5:22 PM, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Nomen Nescio wrote: the development version displayed on pages www.ntp.org www.ntp.org/downloads.html is stalled at 4.2.7p368 2013/05/01 some research... 149.20.68.16 is current. 128.4.24.98 serves stale information. 128.4.24.98 is... HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.ntp.org/ $ dig +nocmd www.ntp.org ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1515 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.ntp.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.ntp.org.3290IN A 128.4.24.98 www.ntp.org.3290IN A 149.20.68.16 ouroboros... if dns resolve to 128.4.24.98 redirect to www.ntp.org which is 128.4.24.98 I see what you mean, http://128.4.24.98/downloads.html Production 4.2.6p5 2011/12/24 Development 4.2.7p368 2013/05/01 Perhaps their rsync is down, and they didn't notice. Sorry, this might help: host-4-24-98.nss.udel.edu -- E-Mail Sent to this address blackl...@anitech-systems.com will be added to the BlackLists. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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Nomen Nescio wrote: the development version displayed on pages www.ntp.org www.ntp.org/downloads.html is stalled at 4.2.7p368 2013/05/01 some research... 149.20.68.16 is current. 128.4.24.98 serves stale information. 128.4.24.98 is... HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Location: http://www.ntp.org/ $ dig +nocmd www.ntp.org ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1515 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.ntp.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.ntp.org.3290IN A 128.4.24.98 www.ntp.org.3290IN A 149.20.68.16 ouroboros... if dns resolve to 128.4.24.98 redirect to www.ntp.org which is 128.4.24.98 I see what you mean, http://128.4.24.98/downloads.html Production 4.2.6p5 2011/12/24 Development 4.2.7p368 2013/05/01 Perhaps their rsync is down, and they didn't notice. -- E-Mail Sent to this address blackl...@anitech-systems.com will be added to the BlackLists. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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From: David Lord sn...@lordynet.org Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp Message-ID: jftsh9-95@mail.lordynet.org.uk References: CAA1zXrk=sAdtqjce4M7H8muPSjsYShBEhGzF1kbK37F=dnb...@mail.gmail.com bIG1s.6896$e_7.2...@newsfe01.iad lrudnqh_ob8gndrnnz2dnuvz_hqdn...@giganews.com dKo2s.27$mi7...@newsfe18.iad 9oidnbk87bewjdbnnz2dnuvz_ssdn...@giganews.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: individual.net nwd56qQdTz3DNOiqCRSgCA3ZEllZTuSKL606kaWTAgK4EIDYS/Fj70yA6JoNPFi918 X-Orig-Path: mail.lordynet.org.uk!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:3UucWW9HXuDPgrk9rKFyzVbN6uI= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 In-Reply-To: 9oidnbk87bewjdbnnz2dnuvz_ssdn...@giganews.com X-Received-Bytes: 3759 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:29:28 + X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] System time changes only on restarting ntpd service and query about iterating through the sources X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from sn...@lordynet.org [294/10] Richard B. Gilbert wrote: On 9/7/2012 11:51 AM, unruh wrote: On 2012-09-05, Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net wrote: On 9/5/2012 7:29 AM, unruh wrote: On 2012-09-04, Arpith Nayak arpithna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm running into this problem. The system time is set to 1970 after every your RTC is broken. system reboot. The first time I enable ntpd it is contacting the ntp source and getting the updated time. However it is unable to change the system How are you starting ntpd? What flags? time immediately. Only after I stop the service and start it again does the system time get changed. Has anyone else observed this behaviour? Also is there any way to iteratively consult the various server addresses given in the ntp.conf file? Regards, Arpith On some, or many machines, the hardware clock (time of day) is sustained by a coin cell battery when power is off! Sooner or later this battery must be replaced. The ones I've encountered used a CR-2013 coin cell. If investigation reveals that there is such a cell it will need to be replaced every few years. Observe the markings on the old battery and find a battery to match it. If power is seldom off and is restored quickly this battery may last for three to six years! YMMV As I recall,the last time I needed such a battery, I purchased it for a dollar or two at a nearby drug store. If this does not resolve your problem, seek professional help! Unfortunately on many systems the batter is welded into the system. It is not user replacable. They expect you to throw out the motherboard when the battery dies. I've never seen such a system. I hope I never do! Who manufactured/distributed this P.O.S??? I've had many motherboards with a three cell nicad or nimh soldered (not welded) and replacing the packs has been little more difficult than replacement of a CR2032. I've also had 6V packs of replaceable standard cells. ISTR that older systems defaulted to 1970 when the battery gave up. I'd suggest a startup script is added to set the date to 2012 either before ntpd is started or if that's not possible change ntpd startup to check that date is reasonable before starting ntpd. David ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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Sep 2012 05:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp In-Reply-To: CAA1zXr=PUsyTAdANWv1hLDERj9V=tLXGmLbkEGTq7Q-UqpO=y...@mail.gmail.com Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=72.37.171.28; posting-account=9dEFPgozLfYtck3ey0c3Szyhn0G7 NNTP-Posting-Host: 72.37.171.28 References: CAA1zXr=PUsyTAdANWv1hLDERj9V=tLXGmLbkEGTq7Q-UqpO=y...@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: 32a82a71-fa64-404e-b359-d4badc442...@googlegroups.com From: Ken Sallings ken.salli...@gmail.com Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 12:10:39 + X-Received-Bytes: 1868 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:10:39 -0700 (PDT) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] ntpsnmpd - How do I configure this to be not built? X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from ken.salli...@gmail.com [294/10] On Saturday, September 1, 2012 11:10:01 PM UTC-4, Arpith Nayak wrote: Hi all, When I build on my computer, the ntpsnmpd folder is not built. It checks if ntpsnmpd needs to be built. However when I run a build after extracting the tar.gz for ntp.4.2.6p5. ntpsnmpd is getting built. Which file is consulted for checking if ntpsnmpd needs to be built? The build is failing because make is not able to find ntpnetsnmpagent.so file when building inside ntpsnmpd folder. Could you help me out? Regards, Arpith When executing the configure script add the following option: --without-ntpsnmpd i.e. ./configure --without-ntpsnmpd ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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From: David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp Organization: No affiliation Message-ID: k28dps$eei$1...@dont-email.me References: CAA1zXrk=sAdtqjce4M7H8muPSjsYShBEhGzF1kbK37F=dnb...@mail.gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:47:57 + (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host=cee5db44ac816d28b94bcd1a681c6a0a; logging-data=14802; mail-complaints-to=ab...@eternal-september.org; posting-account=U2FsdGVkX185kveJEexHEAXwyPZAHKfRYgw1l4TzwzY= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) In-Reply-To: CAA1zXrk=sAdtqjce4M7H8muPSjsYShBEhGzF1kbK37F=dnb...@mail.gmail.com Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jl5+R9Zk4CddRz9k8DiG9009t8w= X-Received-Bytes: 2259 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:47:53 +0100 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] System time changes only on restarting ntpd service and query about iterating through the sources X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; Format=flowed Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid [294/10] Arpith Nayak wrote: Hi all, I'm running into this problem. The system time is set to 1970 after every system reboot. The first time I enable ntpd it is contacting the ntp source I was under the impression that NTP time stamps are ambiguous on a time scale that means a system starting with a time in 1970 will never get a correct time. and getting the updated time. However it is unable to change the system time immediately. Only after I stop the service and start it again does the system time get changed. Has anyone else observed this behaviour? Also is there any way to iteratively consult the various server addresses given in the ntp.conf file? A lot of this probably relates to the system startup scripts, not to ntpd. As you haven't identified the system, it is a bit difficult to be sure what is going on. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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I suspect this might relate to a simple class of one-dimensional
cellular automata
with two possible values for each cell (0 or 1), and rules depending
on them...
but I don't quite understand how they work.
Of particular interest was how in IE browser the search term d=E0nk=E9.
placed into the address bar morphs to URL http://xn--dnk-9ka1c./;
only momentarily but then generates a google search for the term
d=E0nk=E9. via the below URL.
http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dd%C3%A0nk%C3%A9.sourceid=3Die7rls=3Dcom.=
microsoft:en-us:IE-Addressie=3Doe=3D
What processes govern these morphs? Can someone give me a step by step
breakdown?
I was also interested in how just =E0nk=E9. converts to the URL http://
xn--nk-iia2b./ in the address bar, but then does not go on to
generate an =E0nk=E9. query like d=E0nk=E9. did. Why might this be?
I am also further interested in how a search for the term xn--
dnk-9ka1c./
calls up the below text:
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Thanks, Martin Musatov
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From: DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp Organization: EMV Message-ID: mpg.2aaab8dbde03bd84989...@aioe.org References: mpg.2a3016d85d168344989...@news.btopenworld.com 5925612d-a31c-44d1-b49e-8d0e6aa79...@googlegroups.com jvq9f1$o7k$1...@dont-email.me b0590fa0-d352-4ce0-8504-770846090...@googlegroups.com mpg.2aa7e3d54289025b989...@aioe.org 877gshkijn@thumper.dhh.gt.org NNTP-Posting-Host: N1RhQ2TM/etvJBX+64EmVg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: ab...@aioe.org User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.12 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Received-Bytes: 1644 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:05:21 +0100 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Have Pi, have GPS = low powered NTP server? X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from g8...@uko2.co.uk [294/10] In article 877gshkijn@thumper.dhh.gt.org, jhas...@newsguy.com says... DaveB writes: I also found that the Pi would lock up and need a power cycle, if left running the default NTPD service for anything more than two or three days. When you get time please file a bug report. I've had one running Chrony for about a month. It's using Raspbian. John. I'll do that, if it still does it after updating the OS it runs (the original Debian version with the LXDE desktop) as it is now not current AFIK. Cheers. Dave B ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:38:49 -0500 From: Richard B. Gilbert rgilber...@comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata, comp.protocols.time.ntp, comp.programming References: b121eee2-d5b8-449b-a68a-0730ff044...@l14g2000yqo.googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: b121eee2-d5b8-449b-a68a-0730ff044...@l14g2000yqo.googlegroups.com Message-ID: u56dns5g8vakmdznnz2dnuvz_ukdn...@giganews.com X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-jog2Rzpd+EWy9XjhPNZIAoC1ljoK6oWtG3T8F2/PwhcNoVoPu9gcgGof1VmTtFpT9kCVr0TjLYZ90FO!wJWdcPm6aT8WDWr6/I6wpfaQ5lCrvSRHs18y3efebNWrsBUn3c6qUGAyj/gBUTnniOQ1E0KEWw== X-Complaints-To: ab...@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2624 X-Original-Bytes: 2563 X-Received-Bytes: 2862 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:38:06 -0400 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] =?windows-1252?q?Can_someone_please_explain_how_?= =?windows-1252?q?=22d=E0nk=E9=2E=22_morphs_to_=22xn--dnk-9ka1c=2E=22_when?= =?windows-1252?q?_you_plug_it_into_IE_or_Firefox=3F?= X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rgilber...@comcast.net List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; Format=flowed Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from rgilber...@comcast.net [294/10] On 8/31/2012 6:28 AM, M3 wrote: I suspect this might relate to a simple class of one-dimensional cellular automata with two possible values for each cell (0 or 1), and rules depending on them... but I don't quite understand how they work. Of particular interest was how in IE browser the search term d=E0nk=E9. placed into the address bar morphs to URL http://xn--dnk-9ka1c./; only momentarily but then generates a google search for the term d=E0nk=E9. via the below URL. http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dd%C3%A0nk%C3%A9.sourceid=3Die7rls=3Dco= m.microsoft:en-us:IE-Addressie=3Doe=3D What processes govern these morphs? Can someone give me a step by step breakdown? I was also interested in how just =E0nk=E9. converts to the URL http:// xn--nk-iia2b./ in the address bar, but then does not go on to generate an =E0nk=E9. query like d=E0nk=E9. did. Why might this be? If you are using software intended for English (British or American) = it is almost certainly trying to correct your spelling! Artificial Intelligence has some serious pitfalls! ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp In-Reply-To: CAD4huA6RFbnPeObxkGKQ8LL=p3urjikezzykkoq0vjf7ldg...@mail.gmail.com Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=50.56.228.48; posting-account=i1w5-QkBH3fPVa8LVaI2AL9TOCsX NNTP-Posting-Host: 50.56.228.48 References: 50183ec7.1030...@gmail.com 6da4e151-3e44-4b5e-87ef-bbce3447f...@googlegroups.com 5018e8c1.2040...@gmail.com 5019280d.8030...@gmail.com cad4hua6h+mi7ydmjg0xadt-c-azi9mbfpqrncczuqpr7ymp...@mail.gmail.com slrnk1ika9.8gt.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl CAD4huA6RFbnPeObxkGKQ8LL=p3urjikezzykkoq0vjf7ldg...@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: c79ad275-affd-4c99-81aa-95624adb2...@googlegroups.com From: irterm...@gmail.com Injection-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:05:38 + X-Received-Bytes: 2402 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:05:38 -0700 (PDT) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] WARNING: someone's faking a leap second tonight X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from irterm...@gmail.com [294/10] On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:08:40 PM UTC-5, steven Sommars wrote: The main standard says a leap second is allowed in any month. That's what the reference ntpd does. See ITU-R, TF460, STANDARD-FREQUENCY AND TIME-SIGNAL EMISSIONS. This link may work: http://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/tf/R-REC-TF.460-6-200202-I!!PDF-E.pdf On the other hand Bulletin C ( ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat) says December or June. Take your pick. Yes, for future notifications of the real authority on leap seconds, simply go to http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/index.php?index=bulletin_registrationlang=en and add yourself to the C Bulletins. You will receive regular updates on when they will occur, or if the next possible block (December / June) is not to occur. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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From: DaveB g8...@uko2.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp Organization: EMV Message-ID: mpg.2aa7e3d54289025b989...@aioe.org References: mpg.2a3016d85d168344989...@news.btopenworld.com 5925612d-a31c-44d1-b49e-8d0e6aa79...@googlegroups.com jvq9f1$o7k$1...@dont-email.me b0590fa0-d352-4ce0-8504-770846090...@googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: N1RhQ2TM/etvJBX+64EmVg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: ab...@aioe.org User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.9.12 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Received-Bytes: 2501 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:32:08 +0100 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Have Pi, have GPS = low powered NTP server? X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:94.50887/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from g8...@uko2.co.uk [294/10] In article b0590fa0-d352-4ce0-8504-770846090...@googlegroups.com, pktr...@gmail.com says... Hi, I have my pi running on the web right now at http://121.221.94.250/ I made a small web site to expose various parameters in realtime. Still waiting for my gps unit, but I am pretty happy with millisecond from live internet sources. PPS is next. The website needs a little more polish, but the basics are there. http://121.221.94.250/ Unreachable, 08:19 UTC Wednesday 29th August. I've seen on another site, that people using the chipset based serial port with GPS and other devices, and have *Much* better results than when using a USB hosted serial port. There are still issues with the Pi's network port, as that aparrently is a USB driven device on board, resulting in more latency than might be expected otherwise, and some extra variability too. I also found that the Pi would lock up and need a power cycle, if left running the default NTPD service for anything more than two or three days. It was predictable and repeatable, but I've not tried updating the OS (or NTP) and doing that again. That was using the original Debian distro for the thing. At this exact time, it's back in it's box while I make room for it by doing other things, much more important according to domestic management. I have other plans for it. Regards. Dave B. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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Santi Saez wrote:
The unique difference is the way leap-second is configured,
it depends on ntpd version, the remaining conf is
the same on both master and client servers.
Run the same version on all servers / clients under your control?
{Perhaps even a current version.}
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Hope this post isn't too off-topic for ntp forum...
Haven't used my Slackware Linux PC for a couple of days. When started
this morning was surprised to see:
20 Aug 09:10:49 ntpdate[3116]: step time server 139.143.5.30
offset -684197.258181 sec
whilst running:
timeserver1=ntp1.npl.co.uk
timeserver2=ntp2.npl.co.uk
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -b $timeserver1 $timeserver2
from /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Looking in /var/syslog (see below) I can see three occasions recently
when the clock has raced ahead whilst the PC is switched off.
I'm about to go and buy a new CMOS battery. Battery is 5 years old, same
as the PC. But intuitively I'd have thought that an old battery would make
the clock run slow.
Curious to know if others have seen fast clocks with old batteries?
Or any other observations...
Keeping my fingers crossed that a new battery will fix the fast clock.
And maybe a recent rebooot problem, which only affects the OS on one of my
disk drives. The PC will only reboot properly when 'cold' e.g. overnight
switch-off, but this only affects the OS (Linux Win7) on 1 particular
disk. Rebooting during the first 5 minutes is fine, but after that it
just reboots to the legacy grub menu. All other disks/OS reboot OK.
Cheers,
Peter
grep Dquot-cache hash table syslog | awk '{print $1,$2,$3}' | tail -n 20
Aug 6 09:04:34
Aug 6 17:16:41
Aug 7 09:50:31
Aug 8 18:25:25
Aug 8 22:02:14
Aug 9 16:18:41
Aug 10 18:41:47
Aug 11 08:33:38
Aug 17 12:18:24
Aug 13 17:21:06
Aug 14 08:11:51
Aug 14 18:23:30
Aug 14 20:38:13
Aug 15 16:59:58
Aug 21 02:16:06
Aug 17 22:02:15
Aug 16 20:42:10
Aug 19 13:57:42
Sep 4 18:38:03
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MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.time.ntp From: Rob nom...@example.com References: CAA1zXr=9pwg_zhxu3614bvbrmgenqbtddvqiomt+ggnnlx2...@mail.gmail.com e1sz42a-000fdp...@stenn.ntp.org CAA1zXrkMk=D7WL4r16xcNZL0xRzPjv9D=JEEA4HL2V6Tw4mU=w...@mail.gmail.com e1sz4jt-000fex...@stenn.ntp.org slrnk24s1p.24d.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl 81wUr.23998$z66.16...@newsfe10.iad User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) Message-ID: slrnk256dk.jpa.nom...@xs8.xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:0:1::888 X-Trace: 134852 news.xs4all.nl 6949 [2001:888:0:1::888]:34498 X-Complaints-To: ab...@xs4all.nl X-Received-Bytes: 2713 To: questions@lists.ntp.org Date: 08 Aug 2012 16:54:12 GMT X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:4f8:fff7:1::4 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: questions@lists.ntp.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: n...@ntp.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail1.ntp.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MISSING_DATE, MISSING_FROM, MISSING_HEADERS, MISSING_MID, MISSING_SUBJECT, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.ntp.org) Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Does NTP cause an abrupt/sudden change in an orphan's system time? X-BeenThere: questions@lists.ntp.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list for people with questions about NTP \(gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protocols.time.ntp\) questions.lists.ntp.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/options/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.ntp.org/pipermail/questions List-Post: mailto:questions@lists.ntp.org List-Help: mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions, mailto:questions-requ...@lists.ntp.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org Sender: questions-bounces+archive=mail-archive@lists.ntp.org X-pstn-neptune: 0/0/0.00/0 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.9/99.9 CV:99.9000 FC:95.5390 LC:95.5390 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-dkim: 0 skipped:not-enabled X-pstn-settings: 4 (1.5000:1.5000) s cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from nom...@example.com [294/10] unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2012-08-08, Rob nom...@example.com wrote: Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote: If this situation is difficult for you I'd recommend you get an inexpensive GPS receiver and use that to sync your master machine(s). Check out the Sure Electronics GPS board, which can be easily modified to provide a PPS signal. There are other inexpensive GPS units as well. Yet another time the completely irrelevant topic of the hobbyist GPS receiver is brought into the thread... The OP was asking about abrupt/sudden changes in a system's time. This is unrelated to the availability of GPS. When he connects the GPS receiver he will have to watch the same issue as when connecting to another reference. It was related to his statement that his server was not connected to the net and thus its time was out, and then it connected to the net. The statement about GPS was make to fix the problem that when it was not connected to the net, it had a bad time. GPS always operates. Of course his machine could be in a bunker 1000 meter underground with no connection to the surface, in this case the GPS option would be no good either. But in may circumstance it IS an answer to the problem the OP had. Of course not. The OP wants to make sure his clock does not step when he starts ntpd. When not configured correctly, the clock will step when ntpd is started. It is too late to connect a GPS receiver now, he first needs to sort out how to get the clock adjusted without stepping. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions
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