Re: [R] Running R in Bash and R GUI

2007-05-25 Thread michael watson \(IAH-C\)
There are two things that occur.  Firstly, I normally have to unset
no_proxy:

% unset no_proxy; R

Secondly, if for some reason http_proxy isn't being seen in R, you can
use the Sys.putenv() function within R to manipulate the environment

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Subject: [R] Running R in Bash and R GUI

I have been trying to get the R and package update functions in the  
GUI version of R to work on my Mac.

Initially I got error messages that suggested I needed to set up the  
http_proxy for GUI R to use, but how can this be done?

I eventually got to the point of writing a .bash_profile file in the  
Bash terminal and setting the proxy addresses there.

I can now use my Bash terminal, invoke R, and run the update /  
install commands and they work!

The problem that still remains is that in the R console of the GUI  
R,  the http_proxy is not seen and thus I cannot connect to CRAN or  
any other mirror using the GUI functions in the pull-down menus.

I get

  update.packages ()
Warning: unable to access index for repository http://cran.uk.r- 
project.org/bin/macosx/universal/contrib/2.5
 

Basically it still seems unable to access port 80.

Is there a way of solving this so that I can use both terminals  
rather than just everything through Bash?

Thanks


Steve Hodgkinson

University of Brighton

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Re: [R] Running R function as a Batch process

2007-05-16 Thread Vladimir Eremeev



d. sarthi maheshwari wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am struggling with using R CMD BATCH command. Kindly suggest solution to
 the following problem.
 
 I have a function named CinC with accept two input parameters. This can be
 shown as:
 
 CinC - function(start, end)
 
 where start and end both are character strings.
 
 Please suggest me how can I run this function using command R CMD BATCH.
 
 Currently I am trying to do like this - R CMD BATCH c:/tt/CinC.r
 c:/tt/h.Rout -20070416 08:41 -20070416 10:33
 
 What is wrong/incorrect with it?
 

You should use the function commandArgs in your code to retrieve supplied
arguments from the command line.
Look  at
?commandArgs
?Startup

Your R invokation should look like this
C:\ R CMD BATCH c:/tt/CinC.r c:/tt/h.Rout --args 20070416 08:41 20070416
10:33

And you should add something like this in your R code
  command.args-commandArgs(trailingOnly=TRUE)
  CinC(command.args[1],command.args[2])

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Re: [R] Running R function as a Batch process

2007-05-16 Thread Hanke, Alex
Hi,
There are many clues in the help.
First I created the file c:\sumfunction.R

x-as.numeric(commandArgs()[-1:-4] )
print(x)
addtogether-function(x,y){SUM-x+y;print(SUM)}
addtogether(x[1],x[2])

Then at the command line in Windows I enter

R --vanilla --slave --args 7 10 c:\sumfunction.R c:\logout.txt

Regards
Alex

 

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Hi,

I am struggling with using R CMD BATCH command. Kindly suggest solution
to the following problem.

I have a function named CinC with accept two input parameters. This can
be shown as:

CinC - function(start, end)

where start and end both are character strings.

Please suggest me how can I run this function using command R CMD BATCH.

Currently I am trying to do like this - R CMD BATCH c:/tt/CinC.r
c:/tt/h.Rout -20070416 08:41 -20070416 10:33

What is wrong/incorrect with it?

Your suggestions are important to me. Kindly reply.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
Divya Sarthi

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Re: [R] running R without X11

2006-11-14 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Laurence Darby wrote:



 Hello,

 I'm trying to run R from a webserver, which doesn't have an X server,
 and produce pngs to go on a webpage, is this possible?

Yes, see the help page for png.

 I'm doing it in gnuplot with

 gnuplot set term png
 gnuplot set output


 With $DISPLAY unset, I get the following error from R:

 png()
 Error in X11(paste(png::, filename, sep = ), width, height,
 pointsize,  : unable to start device PNG
 In addition: Warning message:
 unable to open connection to X11 display ''

 Is there anyway to remove this dependency on X11?

Please read the help page.  R's png device uses X11 for its fonts.  You 
need fonts from somewhere, and vanilla Unix systems don't come with any 
other sets.  You can use ghostscript or libgdd or other resources for 
other graphics devices.  I normally just use an Xvfb frame buffer (but, 
hint, it defaults to 12bit and you want a 24bit screen).

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Re: [R] running R without X11

2006-11-14 Thread Laurence Darby
Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Laurence Darby wrote:
 
 
  Is there anyway to remove this dependency on X11?
 
 Please read the help page.  R's png device uses X11 for its fonts.  You 
 need fonts from somewhere, and vanilla Unix systems don't come with any 
 other sets.  You can use ghostscript or libgdd or other resources for 
 other graphics devices.  I normally just use an Xvfb frame buffer (but, 
 hint, it defaults to 12bit and you want a 24bit screen).
 


Thanks for your prompt answer, although getting gs to work the way I
want or setting up Xvfb, on top of learning R, is too many hoops to
jump through, much more than reproducing a small R script I have in
gnuplot.

Laurence

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Re: [R] running R without X11

2006-11-14 Thread Jeffrey Horner
Laurence Darby wrote:
 Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
 
 On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Laurence Darby wrote:

 Is there anyway to remove this dependency on X11?
 Please read the help page.  R's png device uses X11 for its fonts.  You 
 need fonts from somewhere, and vanilla Unix systems don't come with any 
 other sets.  You can use ghostscript or libgdd or other resources for 
 other graphics devices.  I normally just use an Xvfb frame buffer (but, 
 hint, it defaults to 12bit and you want a 24bit screen).

 
 
 Thanks for your prompt answer, although getting gs to work the way I
 want or setting up Xvfb, on top of learning R, is too many hoops to
 jump through, much more than reproducing a small R script I have in
 gnuplot.

You can also use Simon Urbanek's GDD or Cairo packages, located on CRAN 
and on www.rosuda.org/R. They both create png's without an X server.

Currently, there are issues with GDD: minimal truetype font support, an 
inability to draw lines thicker than lwd=1, and the worst is it's 
dependence on the neglected libgd graphics library, but apparently 
there's been some active development on it. Check www.libgd.org.

I'm currently adding truetype font support and some antialiasing 
properties to the Cairo package, for the sole purpose of creating better 
graphics for the web. Cairo probably has a longer future as it depends 
on cairo (www.cairographics.org) which is used in the Firefox browser.


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Re: [R] Running R on a 64 bit processor

2006-07-28 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Be careful not to use clock speed as a measure of computer performance.
Pentium 4s (and the comparable Xeons) were intended to be run very fast, 
but never managed it.  So a 2.4GHz P4 proved to be slower than a 1GHz 
PIII.

Unless you are running Windows 64, the chip having some 64-bit 
instructions is irrelevant, and even if you were it is irrelevant to 
binary builds of R for Windows (which will actually access less memory 
than is possible under 32-bit Windows XP).

R runs large tasks much better under Linux, and there having a 64-bit CPU
and 64-bit OS pay off once you have 2Gb or more of RAM.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Lewis G Coggins wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 We recently obtained a new computer in our lab with a Pentium 4 3.86 GHz 
 processor and 4 gb of ram running windows xp with service pack 2.  After 
 installing R on this machine, I ran a bit of code and found that the 
 execution time was actually significantly slower than a machine running 
 windows xp with an older Pentium chip 1.73 GHz and 1 gb of ram.  After 
 speaking with the manufacturer of the new machine, I am told that the 
 processor in the new machine is 64 bit whereas I believe the processor in 
 the  old machine is 32 bit.  I have tried to sort through the 
 documentation on the CRAN page relative to performance of R under the 32 
 vs 64 bit sub architecture, however, I am no computer genius and find some 
 of this stuff extremely confusing. 

Well, it is under the Unix/Linux section, and you are running Windows 
so it does not apply to you.

  In a CRAN document entitled 
 Installation and Administration , there is reference to sub 
 architecture... it reads:
 
 8.1 Windows
 Currently the Windows build of R is a 32-bit executable. This runs happily 
 on Windows 64 on AMD64 and EM64T, but is limited to (we are told) a 2GB 
 address space. It will not be possible to build a native version for 
 Windows 64 until suitable compilers are available, and currently 
 (mid-2006) that is not in prospect. 
 So my question is: are there any options to allow R to take advantage of 
 the faster chip, (with 64 bit architecture), and more ram.  I see in the 
 documentation that a linux version of R may be able to take advantage of 
 this chip... is that true what would be involved in making that work?  Are 
 there other options?  As we are beginning to use R more and more around 
 here, we may send this computer back and get a celeron 3.2 GHz chip that 
 has 32 bit architecture... is this an intelligent choice?
 Thanks in advance for considering my question,
 Lew Coggins 
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Re: [R] Running R as root

2006-07-18 Thread Peter Dalgaard
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 Hello
 Using R v. 2.3.1 which I installed recently, when I start it as root, there
 is nothing
 I can do. I get Error: function xx not found even when trying to leave R
 using
 q(). R works fine when started by an ordinary user. I rechecked the root
 environment
 several times and even have set it similar to that of an ordinary user
 (values of
 PATH etc.) but nothing helps. Using the command env did not reveal
 anything
 valuable. Going to root through the identity of an ordinary user and
 retaining his
 environment by doing su user instead of su - user does not help either.
 
 This does not seem related to the particular version of R.
 Using: Linux RedHat AS 2.1
 
 Any hint?

File permissions? (it is possible to set them so that files can be
read by anyone except the user...)

How exactly did you install R, and are there any other clues upon
startup? 

I get, BTW

 aa()
Error: could not find function aa

so I suspect you paraphrased the error message.

One other thing that can cause trouble is networked directories. Files
that are physically on another machine can sometimes not be accessed
by root on the local machine.

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-30 Thread Pramod Anugu
Does any one have solution for R not running? I am getting the error
message. Please Advice.
Thanks

 
   1. gunzip  R-patched.tar.gz
   2. tar -xvf R-patched.tar
   3. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-patched
   4. Typed ./configure
   5. Typed make
   6. Make check
   7. make check-all
   8. Typed make install
   *9. Typed R
# R
Fatal error: unable to open the base package

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-30 Thread Liaw, Andy
Have you checked and see if there is any error in steps 5 through 8?  If you
can't start R, I doubt steps 6 and 7 ran fine.

Andy 

From: Pramod Anugu 
 
 Does any one have solution for R not running? I am getting 
 the error message. Please Advice.
 Thanks
 
  
    1. gunzip  R-patched.tar.gz
2. tar -xvf R-patched.tar
    3. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-patched
    4. Typed ./configure
    5. Typed make
    6. Make check
    7. make check-all
    8. Typed make install
    *9. Typed R
 # R
 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 


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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-30 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:41AM -0500, Pramod Anugu wrote:
 Does any one have solution for R not running? I am getting the error
 message. Please Advice.

Yes, you have emailing the group fairly regularly about your troubles.

And you have been told just about each and every time to *check the output
of the configure step*.  Unless that step concludes with all relevant pieces
found, *there is no point in resuming with steps 5 to 9*.

As you are emailing from an educational institution, consider getting local
help about configuring and compiling software.  Building R is *extensively
documented in a dedicated manual* but the manual may need someone with more
familiarity with the process than you currently have.

Good luck, and consider to stop sending the *same* email to the list every
couple of days.

Dirk


 Thanks
 
 ?
  ? 1. gunzip  R-patched.tar.gz
2. tar -xvf R-patched.tar
 ?? 3. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-patched
 ?? 4. Typed ./configure
 ? ?5. Typed make
 ?? 6. Make check
 ?? 7. make check-all
 ?? 8. Typed make install
 ?? *9. Typed R
 # R
 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 
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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-30 Thread Liaw, Andy
Just for the record.  (One of the) problem was that configure picked up
ATLAS, but had problem with it at link time for whatever reason.

(This is on some version of Redhat, x86_64.  I should think there are people
who have similar setup and got both ATLAS and readline to work.)

Andy

 From: Pramod Anugu
 
 IT WORKS!!!
 Thanks you very much for your help. So the below line fixed 
 my installation
 
 #./configure --with-blas=no --with-readline=no
 


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Re: [R] Running R [Broadcast]

2006-06-29 Thread Liaw, Andy
You have two choices (AFAIK): 
 
1.  Tell configure exactly where to find the readline header files (by
something like --with-readline=/where/the/files/are, check configure
--help).
 
2.  Compile R without readline; i.e., configure --with-readline=no.
 
Andy

  _  

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Sent: Wed 6/28/2006 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [R] Running R [Broadcast]



[EMAIL PROTECTED] R-2.3.0]# ./configure 
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu 
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu 
loading site script './config.site' 
loading build specific script './config.site' 
checking for pwd... /bin/pwd 
checking whether builddir is srcdir... yes 
checking for working aclocal... found 
checking for working autoconf... found 
checking for working automake... found 
checking for working autoheader... found 
checking for working makeinfo... found 
checking for gawk... gawk 
checking for egrep... grep -E 
checking whether ln -s works... yes 
checking for ranlib... ranlib 
checking for bison... no 
checking for byacc... no 
checking for ar... ar 
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c 
checking for sed... /bin/sed 
checking for less... /usr/bin/less 
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl 
checking whether perl version is at least 5.004... yes 
checking for dvips... /usr/bin/dvips 
checking for tex... /usr/bin/tex 
checking for latex... /usr/bin/latex 
checking for makeindex... /usr/bin/makeindex 
checking for pdftex... /usr/bin/pdftex 
checking for pdflatex... /usr/bin/pdflatex 
checking for makeinfo... /usr/bin/makeinfo 
checking for unzip... /usr/bin/unzip 
checking for zip... /usr/bin/zip 
checking for gzip... /bin/gzip 
checking for firefox... /usr/bin/firefox 
using default browser ... /usr/bin/firefox 
checking for acroread... no 
checking for acroread4... no 
checking for xpdf... no 
checking for gv... no 
checking for gnome-gv... no 
checking for ggv... /usr/bin/ggv 
checking for gcc... gcc 
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out 
checking whether the C compiler works... yes 
checking whether we are cross compiling... no 
checking for suffix of executables... 
checking for suffix of object files... o 
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes 
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes 
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed 
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E 
checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no 
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E 
checking for g77... g77 
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes 
checking whether g77 accepts -g... yes 
checking for g++... g++ 
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes 
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes 
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E 
checking whether __attribute__((visibility())) is supported... yes 
checking whether gcc accepts -fvisibility... yes 
checking whether g77 accepts -fvisibility... yes 
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed 
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld 
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes 
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r 
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B 
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all 
checking for ANSI C header files... yes 
checking for sys/types.h... yes 
checking for sys/stat.h... yes 
checking for stdlib.h... yes 
checking for string.h... yes 
checking for memory.h... yes 
checking for strings.h... yes 
checking for inttypes.h... yes 
checking for stdint.h... yes 
checking for unistd.h... yes 
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes 
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes 
checking for dlfcn.h... yes 
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768 
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok 
checking for objdir... .libs 
checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib 
checking for strip... strip 
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes 
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no 
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC 
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes 
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes 
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared 
libraries... yes 
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no 
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so 
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate 
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes 
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes 
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes 
checking whether to build static libraries... no 
configure: creating libtool 
appending configuration tag CXX to libtool 
checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64 
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes 
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m

Re: [R] Running R [Broadcast]

2006-06-29 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Liaw, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You have two choices (AFAIK): 
  
 1.  Tell configure exactly where to find the readline header files (by
 something like --with-readline=/where/the/files/are, check configure
 --help).
  
 2.  Compile R without readline; i.e., configure --with-readline=no.
  
 Andy


But first check sequencing - I'm pretty sure that configure can find
header files on RedHat if they are there. 

He's not too good at interpreting his output:

 --One suggestion was to install readline-devel. But according to the below I
 
 already have readline-devel. 
 
 # find . -iname readline-devel\* 
  find -iname readline-devel\* 
 ./os/4.1/x86_64/RedHat/RPMS/readline-devel-4.3-13.x86_64.rpm 
 
 #rpm -ivh readline*.rpm 
 Preparing...### 
 [100%] 
 package readline-4.3-13 is already installed 

and as far as I can see, this means that readline-devel got installed
and readline (NOT -devel) was there already. So readline-devel is
there now, but wasn't there before. Now did he rerun configure? If so,
did it fail with a different message?



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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-29 Thread Pramod Anugu
Thank you Andy for your suggestion. I used the  method 2 and was able to go
upto Step 8. But When I type R

# R
Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 
1.  Tell configure exactly where to find the readline header files (by
something like --with-readline=/where/the/files/are, check configure
--help).
 
2.  Compile R without readline; i.e., configure --with-readline=no.
 
Andy



   1. gunzip  R-patched.tar.gz
   2. tar -xvf R-patched.tar
   3. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-patched
   4. Typed ./configure 
   5. Typed make 
   6. Make check 
   7. make check-all 
   8. Typed make install 
   *9. Typed R

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-28 Thread Pramod Anugu


1. tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
3. Typed ./configure 
4. Typed make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
I cannot run make. Please let me know.
#gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.4/specs
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
--disable-checking --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit
--disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-java-awt=gtk
--host=x86_64-redhat-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.4.4 20050721 (Red Hat 3.4.4-2)

*5. Make check
*6. make check-all
*7. Typed make install
*8. Typed R

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-28 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Pramod Anugu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1. tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
 2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
 3. Typed ./configure 

and what happened here??? Presumably an error since no Makefile was
created. 

 4. Typed make
 make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
 I cannot run make. Please let me know.
 #gcc -v
 Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.4/specs
 Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
 --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
 --disable-checking --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit
 --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-java-awt=gtk
 --host=x86_64-redhat-linux
 Thread model: posix
 gcc version 3.4.4 20050721 (Red Hat 3.4.4-2)
 
 *5. Make check
 *6. make check-all
 *7. Typed make install
 *8. Typed R
 
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Re: [R] Running R

2006-06-28 Thread Pramod Anugu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] R-2.3.0]# ./configure
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
loading site script './config.site'
loading build specific script './config.site'
checking for pwd... /bin/pwd
checking whether builddir is srcdir... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gawk... gawk
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for bison... no
checking for byacc... no
checking for ar... ar
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking for sed... /bin/sed
checking for less... /usr/bin/less
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking whether perl version is at least 5.004... yes
checking for dvips... /usr/bin/dvips
checking for tex... /usr/bin/tex
checking for latex... /usr/bin/latex
checking for makeindex... /usr/bin/makeindex
checking for pdftex... /usr/bin/pdftex
checking for pdflatex... /usr/bin/pdflatex
checking for makeinfo... /usr/bin/makeinfo
checking for unzip... /usr/bin/unzip
checking for zip... /usr/bin/zip
checking for gzip... /bin/gzip
checking for firefox... /usr/bin/firefox
using default browser ... /usr/bin/firefox
checking for acroread... no
checking for acroread4... no
checking for xpdf... no
checking for gv... no
checking for gnome-gv... no
checking for ggv... /usr/bin/ggv
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for g77... g77
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes
checking whether g77 accepts -g... yes
checking for g++... g++
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
checking whether __attribute__((visibility())) is supported... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -fvisibility... yes
checking whether g77 accepts -fvisibility... yes
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking dlfcn.h usability... yes
checking dlfcn.h presence... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking for objdir... .libs
checking for ranlib... (cached) ranlib
checking for strip... strip
checking if gcc static flag  works... yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared
libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... no
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag CXX to libtool
checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared
libraries... yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) supports shared
libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
appending configuration tag F77 to libtool
checking if libtool supports 

Re: [R] running R in batch with stdin input

2006-06-15 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
?commandArgs



On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 16:05 -0700, Eric Hu wrote:
 Hi I have a R script that needs to run a few times for different
 systems. I use R --no-save  r.script for one system. I am trying with
 no luck to use R CMD BATCH to introduce an stdin input variable for
 the script. I wonder if anyone can provide the correct usage to put
 the variable in the command like R CMD BATCH r.script name_variable.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Eric
 
 In the r.script I have
 
 name - readline(/dev/stdin)
 r0 - read.table(/usr/local/surface/$name/$name_c_r)
 ...
 
 I want to get at the end:
 
 name - 1BRS
 r0 - read.table(/usr/local/surface/1BRS/1BRS_c_r)
 ...
 
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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Pramod Anugu
I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0 
3. Typed ./configure
4. Typed make
5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
/usr/local/bin/R.
6. Typed  R

Fatal error: unable to open the base package 
I get the error message. Please advice

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Andrew Perrin
At step 5, don't copy the file. Instead, do:

make install

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On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pramod Anugu wrote:

 I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
 1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
 2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
 3. Typed ./configure
 4. Typed make
 5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
 /usr/local/bin/R.
 6. Typed  R

 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 I get the error message. Please advice

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Jonathan Baron
On 05/31/06 09:25, Pramod Anugu wrote:
 I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
 1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
 2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
 3. Typed ./configure
 4. Typed make
 5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
 /usr/local/bin/R.
 6. Typed  R

The instructions say that you should use

make install

unless you want to run R from the directory into which you
unpacked it.
 
 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 I get the error message. Please advice

If you are using Fedora Core 5, the RPM works well.

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Pramod Anugu
Still the same problem after changing the step 5
 I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
 1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
 2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
 3. Typed ./configure
 4. Typed make
 5. Typed make install
 6. Typed  R

 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 I get the error message. Please advice

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Perrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Pramod Anugu
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [R] Running R

At step 5, don't copy the file. Instead, do:

make install

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Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_
University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl



On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pramod Anugu wrote:

 I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
 1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
 2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
 3. Typed ./configure
 4. Typed make
 5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
 /usr/local/bin/R.
 6. Typed  R

 Fatal error: unable to open the base package
 I get the error message. Please advice

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Liaw, Andy
It's always a good idea to do

  make check

or even

  make check-all

before make install.  If the build does not pass the checks, there's no
point in installing.  (I've run into successful builds that failed the
checks several times before.)

Andy 

From: Pramod Anugu
 
 Still the same problem after changing the step 5
  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
  3. Typed ./configure
  4. Typed make
  5. Typed make install
  6. Typed  R
 
  Fatal error: unable to open the base package
  I get the error message. Please advice
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Perrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM
 To: Pramod Anugu
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] Running R
 
 At step 5, don't copy the file. Instead, do:
 
 make install
 
 --
 Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - 
 http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu
 Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_
 University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
 New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl
 
 
 
 On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pramod Anugu wrote:
 
  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
  3. Typed ./configure
  4. Typed make
  5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
  /usr/local/bin/R.
  6. Typed  R
 
  Fatal error: unable to open the base package
  I get the error message. Please advice
 
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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Jonathan Baron
On 05/31/06 09:39, Pramod Anugu wrote:
  5. Typed make install
  6. Typed  R
 
  Fatal error: unable to open the base package
  I get the error message. Please advice

Other things to try (aside from make check):

1. Make sure you are root before you say make install.

2. Check to see that the packages really got installed, after
make install:
ls /usr/local/lib/R/
(should have several directories)

3. Open a new terminal window before you type R.  (Sometimes
that matters.)

4. Look at config.log.  The make may not have even worked.  There 
are many dependencies.  Sometimes you need other programs, as
described in the installation and administration manual.

Jon

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Pramod Anugu
 Still the same problem after the changes
  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
1.  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
3. Typed ./configure
4. Typed make
5. Make check
6. make check-all
7. Typed make install
8. Typed  R

Fatal error: unable to open the base package
I get the error message. 


make[4]: *** No rule to make target `../../src/library/base/all.R', needed
by `base-Ex.Rout'.  Stop.
make[4]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests/Examples'
make[3]: *** [test-Examples-Base] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests/Examples'
make[2]: *** [test-Examples] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests'
make[1]: *** [test-all-basics] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests'
make: *** [check] Error 2





-Original Message-
From: Liaw, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andrew Perrin'
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: RE: [R] Running R

It's always a good idea to do

  make check

or even

  make check-all

before make install.  If the build does not pass the checks, there's no
point in installing.  (I've run into successful builds that failed the
checks several times before.)

Andy 

From: Pramod Anugu
 
 Still the same problem after changing the step 5
  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
  3. Typed ./configure
  4. Typed make
  5. Typed make install
  6. Typed  R
 
  Fatal error: unable to open the base package
  I get the error message. Please advice
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Perrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM
 To: Pramod Anugu
 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
 Subject: Re: [R] Running R
 
 At step 5, don't copy the file. Instead, do:
 
 make install
 
 --
 Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - 
 http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu
 Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_
 University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
 New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl
 
 
 
 On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pramod Anugu wrote:
 
  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor
  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
  3. Typed ./configure
  4. Typed make
  5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
  /usr/local/bin/R.
  6. Typed  R
 
  Fatal error: unable to open the base package
  I get the error message. Please advice
 
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Re: [R] Running R [Broadcast]

2006-05-31 Thread Liaw, Andy
In the R-2.3.0 directory, what do you get if you type bin/R?  Does R starts
up OK, or do you get an error?  What were the last few lines of output from
running configure?
 
Andy


  _  

From: Pramod Anugu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM
To: Liaw, Andy; 'Andrew Perrin'
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: RE: [R] Running R [Broadcast]



 Still the same problem after the changes

  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor

1.  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz

2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0

3. Typed ./configure

4. Typed make

5. Make check

6. make check-all

7. Typed make install

8. Typed  R

Fatal error: unable to open the base package

I get the error message. 


make[4]: *** No rule to make target `../../src/library/base/all.R', needed
by `base-Ex.Rout'.  Stop.

make[4]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests/Examples'

make[3]: *** [test-Examples-Base] Error 2

make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests/Examples'

make[2]: *** [test-Examples] Error 2

make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests'

make[1]: *** [test-all-basics] Error 1

make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/downloads/R-2.3.0/tests'

make: *** [check] Error 2





-Original Message-
From: Liaw, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Andrew Perrin'
Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: RE: [R] Running R

It's always a good idea to do

  make check

or even

  make check-all

before make install.  If the build does not pass the checks, there's no

point in installing.  (I've run into successful builds that failed the

checks several times before.)

Andy 

From: Pramod Anugu

 

 Still the same problem after changing the step 5

  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor

  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz

  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0

  3. Typed ./configure

  4. Typed make

  5. Typed make install

  6. Typed  R

 

  Fatal error: unable to open the base package

  I get the error message. Please advice

 

 -Original Message-

 From: Andrew Perrin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 

 Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:33 AM

 To: Pramod Anugu

 Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch

 Subject: Re: [R] Running R

 

 At step 5, don't copy the file. Instead, do:

 

 make install

 

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 http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu 

 Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_

 University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA

 New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl 

 

 

 

 On Wed, 31 May 2006, Pramod Anugu wrote:

 

  I have downloaded R-2.3.0.tar.gz for Linux 64 bit processor

  1. Untar  tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz

  2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0

  3. Typed ./configure

  4. Typed make

  5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to

  /usr/local/bin/R.

  6. Typed  R

 

  Fatal error: unable to open the base package

  I get the error message. Please advice

 

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Jonathan Baron wrote:

5. Copied the Script File R from directory R-2.3.0/bin/R to
/usr/local/bin/R.
6. Typed  R
 
 
 The instructions say that you should use
 
 make install
 
 unless you want to run R from the directory into which you
 unpacked it.
  

  Another idea is to have a symlink (here assuming your R was unpacked 
in /usr/local/src/R-2.3.0):

ln -s /usr/local/src/R-2.3.0/bin/R /usr/local/bin/R

  which essentially runs R from that R-2.3.0 directory.

But the 'make install' solution has the advantage that you can delete 
the source directory where you did the make step to clear out the source 
and save some disk space.

Barry

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Re: [R] Running R

2006-05-31 Thread Pramod Anugu
Under the below seection it talks about X86_64 archetecture for Linux.
1. tar -zxvf R-2.3.0.tar.gz
2. changed the directory to the newly created directory R-2.3.0
3. Typed ./configure 'r_arch=name' 
4. Typed make
5. Make check
6. make check-all
7. Typed make install
8. Typed R
I still get the same error message. 
Fatal error: unable to open the base package
2.5 Sub-architectures
Some platforms can support closely related builds of R which can share all
but the executables and dynamic objects. Examples include builds under
Solaris for different chips (in particular, 32- and 64-bit builds), 64- and
32- bit builds on `x86_64' Linux and different CPUs (`ppc', `ppc64' and
`i386') under MacOS 10.4. 
R supports the idea of architecture-specific builds, specified by adding
`r_arch=name' to the configure line. Here name can be anything non-empty,
and is used to name subdirectories of lib, etc, include and libs. Example
names from other systems are the use of sparcv9 on Solaris and 32 by gcc on
`x86_64' Linux. 
If you have two or more such builds you can install them over each other
(and one build can be done without `r_arch'). The space savings can be
considerable: on `x86_64' Linux a basic install (without debugging symbols)
took 63Mb, and adding a 32-bit build added 6Mb. If you have installed
multiple build you can select which build to run by 
 R --arch=name
and running `R' will run the last build that was installed. 
R CMD INSTALL will detect if more that one build is installed and try to
install packages with the appropriate library objects for each. This will
not be done if the package has an executable configure script or a
src/Makefile file. In such cases you can install for extra builds by 
 R --arch=name CMD INSTALL --libs-only pkg(s)
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My Server Archeitecute is X86_64
-bash-2.05b# rpm -q --qf '%{ARCH}\n' zlib
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Re: [R] Running R on Windows 2000 Terminal Services

2006-04-26 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Barry Rowlingson wrote:
 Gavin Simpson wrote:
 
Dear list,

My employer uses a Windows 2000 Terminal Server-based system for its
college-wide managed computer service - computers connect directly to
the WTS servers for their sessions, using a Citrix ICA client. When I
asked them to install R (Windows) on an older version of this service
the IT guys installed it but pulled it for performance issues. I am
trying to get them to try again but receiving little encouragement from
them.
 
 
   'performance issues'? Well, if you have 100 students running MCMC 
 simulations on one Windows 2000 TS box then you may well have 
 'performance issues'!
 
   Perhaps the TS service isn't intended for people to do real computer 
 work on, but is just for Office apps. Then you come along and want your 
 students to do serious number crunching. At that point the MS Word 
 writers experience what we used to call 'lag'.
 
 
Does anyone on the list have experience of a similar set-up? If you do,
I could use that as part of my argument to invest some time in sorting
these issues out. I really want to get the Windows version of R
installed for teaching because at the moment I subject my students to
the rather hostile world of an archaic UNIX session to run R - for them
at least.
 
 
   We have a couple of labs that are similar - we use Wyse Thin Client 
 Xterminals which boot Thinstation Linux from a server and then connect 
 to Windows 2003 TS machines using RDP or Ubuntu Linux boxes using XDMCP. 
 We dont use Citrix ICA.
 
   'Performance issues' will depend very much on what you are doing. As a 
 quick benchmark, last term we had 24 users in a lab all running Windows 
 and running Matlab, Firefox, that kind of stuff. One dual 2.6GHz Xeon 
 Dell with 4G Ram never went above 60% CPU usage. And we had another 
 three similar Dells sitting idle waiting for installation. Sessions with 
 R run regularly in these labs and we've never had 'performance issues'.

Back in September there was some issue with your setup, but I forget the 
details.  Do you remember?  Is it something we ended up working around, 
or did the 2.2 release fix it?

Duncan
 
   So possibly your IT support are stalling. Do they regularly say Have 
 you tried switching it off and on again? in response to a support query 
 [1]?
 
 Barry
 
 [1] Catchphrase of the tech support guys in comedy series 'The IT Crowd'
 
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Re: [R] Running R on Windows 2000 Terminal Services

2006-04-25 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Gavin Simpson wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 My employer uses a Windows 2000 Terminal Server-based system for its
 college-wide managed computer service - computers connect directly to
 the WTS servers for their sessions, using a Citrix ICA client. When I
 asked them to install R (Windows) on an older version of this service
 the IT guys installed it but pulled it for performance issues. I am
 trying to get them to try again but receiving little encouragement from
 them.

  'performance issues'? Well, if you have 100 students running MCMC 
simulations on one Windows 2000 TS box then you may well have 
'performance issues'!

  Perhaps the TS service isn't intended for people to do real computer 
work on, but is just for Office apps. Then you come along and want your 
students to do serious number crunching. At that point the MS Word 
writers experience what we used to call 'lag'.

 Does anyone on the list have experience of a similar set-up? If you do,
 I could use that as part of my argument to invest some time in sorting
 these issues out. I really want to get the Windows version of R
 installed for teaching because at the moment I subject my students to
 the rather hostile world of an archaic UNIX session to run R - for them
 at least.

  We have a couple of labs that are similar - we use Wyse Thin Client 
Xterminals which boot Thinstation Linux from a server and then connect 
to Windows 2003 TS machines using RDP or Ubuntu Linux boxes using XDMCP. 
We dont use Citrix ICA.

  'Performance issues' will depend very much on what you are doing. As a 
quick benchmark, last term we had 24 users in a lab all running Windows 
and running Matlab, Firefox, that kind of stuff. One dual 2.6GHz Xeon 
Dell with 4G Ram never went above 60% CPU usage. And we had another 
three similar Dells sitting idle waiting for installation. Sessions with 
R run regularly in these labs and we've never had 'performance issues'.

  So possibly your IT support are stalling. Do they regularly say Have 
you tried switching it off and on again? in response to a support query 
[1]?

Barry

[1] Catchphrase of the tech support guys in comedy series 'The IT Crowd'

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Re: [R] Running R on Windows 2000 Terminal Services

2006-04-25 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 17:32 +0100, Barry Rowlingson wrote:
 Gavin Simpson wrote:
  Dear list,
  
  My employer uses a Windows 2000 Terminal Server-based system for its
  college-wide managed computer service - computers connect directly to
  the WTS servers for their sessions, using a Citrix ICA client. When I
  asked them to install R (Windows) on an older version of this service
  the IT guys installed it but pulled it for performance issues. I am
  trying to get them to try again but receiving little encouragement from
  them.
 
   'performance issues'? Well, if you have 100 students running MCMC 
 simulations on one Windows 2000 TS box then you may well have 
 'performance issues'!

I think they meant more along the lines of one user running it - doing
nothing with R as the guys don't know how to use R - was causing issues,
rather than CPU load hitting 100% across all the 4-8 processors per
server (and there are lots of servers)

   Perhaps the TS service isn't intended for people to do real computer 
 work on, but is just for Office apps. Then you come along and want your 
 students to do serious number crunching. At that point the MS Word 
 writers experience what we used to call 'lag'.

The system has SPSS, various Adobe products (Photoshop  Illustrator)
and tonnes of other apps I would consider more number crunching than
R, so I don't think this was a problem. I was deliberately vague as I
don't know what the actual problem was - we aren't allowed to know who
these IT people R but I have asked to speak to one of the WTS people to
see what the problem is. If I turn up anything I'll email R-Devel to see
if this is an R thing or a local thing.

 
  Does anyone on the list have experience of a similar set-up? If you do,
  I could use that as part of my argument to invest some time in sorting
  these issues out. I really want to get the Windows version of R
  installed for teaching because at the moment I subject my students to
  the rather hostile world of an archaic UNIX session to run R - for them
  at least.
 
   We have a couple of labs that are similar - we use Wyse Thin Client 
 Xterminals which boot Thinstation Linux from a server and then connect 
 to Windows 2003 TS machines using RDP or Ubuntu Linux boxes using XDMCP. 
 We dont use Citrix ICA.
 
   'Performance issues' will depend very much on what you are doing. As a 
 quick benchmark, last term we had 24 users in a lab all running Windows 
 and running Matlab, Firefox, that kind of stuff. One dual 2.6GHz Xeon 
 Dell with 4G Ram never went above 60% CPU usage. And we had another 
 three similar Dells sitting idle waiting for installation. Sessions with 
 R run regularly in these labs and we've never had 'performance issues'.

Thanks for this Barry - so we aren't talking about an incompatibility
per se with WTS.

   So possibly your IT support are stalling. Do they regularly say Have 
 you tried switching it off and on again? in response to a support query 
 [1]?

Once you speak to the IT guys themselves they are incredibly helpful and
knowledgeable - getting to speak to them is more difficult

 
 Barry
 
 [1] Catchphrase of the tech support guys in comedy series 'The IT Crowd'

That was a funny show...

Cheers,

G

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Re: [R] Running R from Perl program

2005-05-10 Thread Sean Davis
A quick search of the archives (http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/nmz.html) 
produces several hits.  Just one example:

http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/Rhelp02a/archive/24327.html
Sean
On May 10, 2005, at 7:26 AM, Tarun Kumar Singh wrote:
Hi all,
Is it possoble to include an R function in a Perl program? I would 
like to use
the limma library for microarray analysis, and have no clue how this
can be done.

Thanks in Advance
-Tarun
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RE: [R] Running R from Perl program

2005-05-10 Thread michael watson \(IAH-C\)
Well, after reviewing all the available options about 2 years ago, I
decided on the traditional perl option of opening up a pipe to R from
within perl and simply firing commands at it.

This worked for me because all I wanted to do was create images.  If you
want to get back the results of an analysis, say from topTable() in
limma, then you can write the results of that out to a temporary file
and read that in using perl.

All very cumbersome, but it works :-)

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A quick search of the archives (http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/nmz.html) 
produces several hits.  Just one example:

http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/Rhelp02a/archive/24327.html

Sean

On May 10, 2005, at 7:26 AM, Tarun Kumar Singh wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is it possoble to include an R function in a Perl program? I would 
 like to use
 the limma library for microarray analysis, and have no clue how this
 can be done.

 Thanks in Advance
 -Tarun

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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-25 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
[...]
BTW, I believe running R 2.0.x from a CD will be a lot slower than 1.9.1
because of lazy loading and frequent file accesses: that's a theoretical 
issue we intend to address for 2.1.0, but not one anyone has yet commented 
that it is a problem.
I collected some data (under Windows XP).
On a modern desktop, running R from a CD-R or from a USB 2.0 thumbdrive 
was perfectably acceptable, with startup times of about 5 secs and little 
delay when running.

On a 2.5year old laptop with a USB 1.1 port (but the same thumbdrive) it 
took about 15secs to start and with frequent delays the first time an 
object was used -- I would not find that tolerable.  The laptop's CD drive 
was slower than the desktop and there were delays when it powered down, 
but it was acceptable.

This was less performance penalty than I was expecting, and less than I 
have seen on a high-latency network file system. So it looks as if all we 
can do is trade a slower startup time (by caching files) for removing 
hiatuses when running.  (Caching the pkg.rdb and pkg.rdx files when a 
package is opened would probably only take up a little over 1Mb in a 
typical session.)

Writing to the thumbdrive took about 20mins, as R has so many small files
and the drive has a VFAT file system.
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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-22 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:41, bogdan romocea wrote:
 Better install and run R from a USB flash drive. This will save you
 the trouble of re-writing the CD as you upgrade and install new
 packages. Also, you can simply copy the R installation on your work
 computer (no install rights needed); R will run.
 
I think there is a niche (= a hole in the wall) for a live CD: it is
cheaper to distribute 20 copies of CD's to your audience than 20 USB
memory sticks. Instructions would be welcome.
 
 From: Hans van Walen hans_at_vanwalen.com

 At work I have no permission to install R. So, would anyone know
 whether it is possible to create a CD with a running R-installation
 for a windows(XP) pc? And of course, how to?
 
Check the file Getting-Started-with-the-Rcmdr.pdf in John Fox's Rcmdr
package. You should be able to reach this package by launching
help.start(), and then browsing its directory in the help browser
window. Go to chapter 7. Some Suggestions for Instructors which tells
you how to make a live CD of R in Windows. I haven't tried this, since I
don't have Windows, but I sure will when I got to be an instructor in
a Windows class.
 
cheers, jari oksanen 
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RE: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-22 Thread John Fox
Dear Jari,

When I distribute an R Windows CD/ROM to students, I generally include both
the installer and an installed version. This allows students who don't want
to or can't install the software to use it. They pay a big penalty in speed,
however. A flash drive would provide better performance if this is a viable
option.

It's not really necessary to do anything as elaborate as in my Rcmdr
instructions if the CD is for one's own use: Just install to the CD (copy
over installed versions of whatever contributed packages you want to use)
and run rgui.exe from it.

Regards,
 John


John Fox
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
905-525-9140x23604
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jari Oksanen
 Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:42 AM
 To: bogdan romocea
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; R-News
 Subject: Re: [R] Running R from CD?
 
 On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:41, bogdan romocea wrote:
  Better install and run R from a USB flash drive. This will save you 
  the trouble of re-writing the CD as you upgrade and install new 
  packages. Also, you can simply copy the R installation on your work 
  computer (no install rights needed); R will run.
  
 I think there is a niche (= a hole in the wall) for a live 
 CD: it is cheaper to distribute 20 copies of CD's to your 
 audience than 20 USB memory sticks. Instructions would be welcome.
  
  From: Hans van Walen hans_at_vanwalen.com
 
  At work I have no permission to install R. So, would anyone know 
  whether it is possible to create a CD with a running R-installation 
  for a windows(XP) pc? And of course, how to?
  
 Check the file Getting-Started-with-the-Rcmdr.pdf in John 
 Fox's Rcmdr package. You should be able to reach this package 
 by launching help.start(), and then browsing its directory in 
 the help browser window. Go to chapter 7. Some Suggestions 
 for Instructors which tells you how to make a live CD of R 
 in Windows. I haven't tried this, since I don't have Windows, 
 but I sure will when I got to be an instructor in a Windows class.
  
 cheers, jari oksanen
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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-22 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Let's be a little careful here.  An R for Windows installation is 
relocatable, so you can just install it into a temporary directory and 
burn a copy of that onto CD.  (That may not be true after installing 
packages into a non-default library.)  It is not true of a Unix or MacOS X 
installation, as far as I am aware, for they have absolute paths coded 
into the files.

However, an R session does need to be able to write to a temporary 
directory, and also needs a `home' directory and at a last resort the 
latter defaults to the current directory.  So you do need to be running on 
a machine on which you have a writable area.

A policy that says you cannot install a program, but you can run from a CD 
and you can let such a program write to your area seems full of holes to 
me.  (Ours does not allow low-privilege users to run programs from a CD.)
Also, many organizations ban the use of USB drives for security reasons.

BTW, I believe running R 2.0.x from a CD will be a lot slower than 1.9.1
because of lazy loading and frequent file accesses: that's a theoretical 
issue we intend to address for 2.1.0, but not one anyone has yet commented 
that it is a problem.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Jari Oksanen wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:41, bogdan romocea wrote:
Better install and run R from a USB flash drive. This will save you
the trouble of re-writing the CD as you upgrade and install new
packages. Also, you can simply copy the R installation on your work
computer (no install rights needed); R will run.
I think there is a niche (= a hole in the wall) for a live CD: it is
cheaper to distribute 20 copies of CD's to your audience than 20 USB
memory sticks. Instructions would be welcome.
From: Hans van Walen hans_at_vanwalen.com

At work I have no permission to install R. So, would anyone know
whether it is possible to create a CD with a running R-installation
for a windows(XP) pc? And of course, how to?
Check the file Getting-Started-with-the-Rcmdr.pdf in John Fox's Rcmdr
package. You should be able to reach this package by launching
help.start(), and then browsing its directory in the help browser
window. Go to chapter 7. Some Suggestions for Instructors which tells
you how to make a live CD of R in Windows. I haven't tried this, since I
don't have Windows, but I sure will when I got to be an instructor in
a Windows class.
cheers, jari oksanen
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RE: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-22 Thread Mulholland, Tom
I have noticed that R 2.0 did run slower than I thought it should. It's only 
now that you've raised the issue that I realise how much slower. However since 
I only use the CD when I am working on other people's machines I can't really 
say if there are other factors impacting upon the performance. I'll dig up the 
old disk, make some comparisons and forward the results.

The bottom line is that it is not a big issue for me.

Tom Mulholland

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...
Subject: Re: [R] Running R from CD?
...
BTW, I believe running R 2.0.x from a CD will be a lot slower than 1.9.1
because of lazy loading and frequent file accesses: that's a theoretical 
issue we intend to address for 2.1.0, but not one anyone has yet commented 
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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-11-21 Thread bogdan romocea
Better install and run R from a USB flash drive. This will save you
the trouble of re-writing the CD as you upgrade and install new
packages. Also, you can simply copy the R installation on your work
computer (no install rights needed); R will run.

HTH,
b.


From: Hans van Walen hans_at_vanwalen.com
Date: Fri 27 Aug 2004 - 23:54:53 EST


At work I have no permission to install R. So, would anyone know
whether it is possible to create a CD with a running R-installation
for a windows(XP) pc? And of course, how to?

Thank you for your help,
Hans van Walen

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Re: [R] Running R on a grid engine

2004-10-28 Thread Adaikalavan Ramasamy
See comments below.

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 18:49, S Peri wrote:
 Dear Group, 
  I am using DEAL package for modeling signal
 transduction nets.  This process is deal slow on a
 SunFire server with 8 gigs ram. 
 
 we have a grid that can process much faster that one
 individual server.  
 
 However, to start the process in Grid, I have to give
 a command or submit a batch process. 
 
 Is there any way, I can run R in bach process. 
 
 I tried the following:
 
 R CMD | library(deal) | data -
 data.frame(read.table('file1',header=TRUE,
 row.names=1))
 

Something like this works in *NIX

  echo  print(mean(rnorm(10)))  | R --no-save

HOWEVER you will run into nightmares soon trying to backslash all the
quotes and other special characters. And try to recall a long sequence
of commands you typed in a few days ago ...


Better to put all your codes into a file, say script.R and do

 R --no-save  script.R  log_script.R  

See help(BATCH). 


 Here I do not know know :
 
 1. How can I point my data files to a function. 

Two ways :
1) Hard code the path inside the script.R
2) Take advantage of commandArgs(). 

Example. If your script.R contains 

data.path - as.character( commandArgs()[3] )
print(data.path)
load (data.path)  # or read.delim or whatever


Then you can pass the path to test.rda via command line

 R --no-save  script.R /home/speri/data/test.rda  log_script.R  

One thing to keep in mind is to pass the absolute paths and not relative
paths (e.g. ../../data/test.rda). Using relative path may not always
work.


 2. creating a function (other than in R environment)

Huh ? You can put all your functions into a file, say functions.R, and
you can source(/path/to/functions.R) in your script.R/

 
 Could any one help me. 
 
 Thank you in advance.
 
 
 Cheers
 Peri.
 
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RE: [R] Running R on a grid engine

2004-10-28 Thread Huntsinger, Reid
Does the grid process faster because there is more than one machine or
because each machine (or at least one machine) is faster? If the former,
you're asking about splitting an R process into several processes (to take
advantage of the grid), and you will want to look at the various R packages
to facilitate that: Snow, Rmpi, Rpvm, TaskPR and perhaps others (browse
cran.rproject.org).

Reid Huntsinger

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See comments below.

On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 18:49, S Peri wrote:
 Dear Group, 
  I am using DEAL package for modeling signal
 transduction nets.  This process is deal slow on a
 SunFire server with 8 gigs ram. 
 
 we have a grid that can process much faster that one
 individual server.  
 
 However, to start the process in Grid, I have to give
 a command or submit a batch process. 
 
 Is there any way, I can run R in bach process. 
 
 I tried the following:
 
 R CMD | library(deal) | data -
 data.frame(read.table('file1',header=TRUE,
 row.names=1))
 

Something like this works in *NIX

  echo  print(mean(rnorm(10)))  | R --no-save

HOWEVER you will run into nightmares soon trying to backslash all the
quotes and other special characters. And try to recall a long sequence
of commands you typed in a few days ago ...


Better to put all your codes into a file, say script.R and do

 R --no-save  script.R  log_script.R  

See help(BATCH). 


 Here I do not know know :
 
 1. How can I point my data files to a function. 

Two ways :
1) Hard code the path inside the script.R
2) Take advantage of commandArgs(). 

Example. If your script.R contains 

data.path - as.character( commandArgs()[3] )
print(data.path)
load (data.path)  # or read.delim or whatever


Then you can pass the path to test.rda via command line

 R --no-save  script.R /home/speri/data/test.rda  log_script.R  

One thing to keep in mind is to pass the absolute paths and not relative
paths (e.g. ../../data/test.rda). Using relative path may not always
work.


 2. creating a function (other than in R environment)

Huh ? You can put all your functions into a file, say functions.R, and
you can source(/path/to/functions.R) in your script.R/

 
 Could any one help me. 
 
 Thank you in advance.
 
 
 Cheers
 Peri.
 
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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-08-27 Thread asemeria
You can simply start a Linux live distribution
including R (for example bio-knoppix) from CD, but
you have to restart pc with cd inside.
A.S.



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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-08-27 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Hans van Walen wrote:

 At work I have no permission to install R. So, would anyone know whether it
 is possible to create a CD with a running R-installation for a windows(XP)
 pc? And of course, how to?

Yes, for a suitable definition of `CD'.  (You need the extensions which
allow long file names and lower-case chars.)

You will need some disc area where you unpack the files from the R 
installer.  Then just write the top-level directory (rw1091 or whatever) 
and all its contents to CD-R.  The Windows installation (but not the Unix 
one) is relocatable as it only uses relative file paths.

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Re: [R] Running R from CD?

2004-08-27 Thread Wolski
Hi!

Make a isntallation of R on a PC where it is allowed. Install all packages you need. 
Burn the installation folder (rw1091) on the CD.
Start R by clicking on Rgui.exe in the bin folder (rw1091/bin).
Or set a path on the command line to (CD drive letter) :\rw1091\bin
Or create a shortcut.
This should work.

Hope it helps.
Eryk

Ps. If you need to install afterwards package you have to set R_LIBS to a writable 
drive.



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pc? And of course, how to?

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Re: [R] running R UNIX in a mac computer

2004-06-11 Thread Jari Oksanen
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 03:49, Tiago R Magalhaes wrote:
 Hi to you all
 
 My question is:
 
 there is a package written in UNIX for which there is no Mac version.
 
 I would like to know if it's possible to install the R UNIX version on the
 MacOSX and run that UNIX package on my Mac (through this UNIX R Vresion on
 a Mac)
 
 I have seen a porfile for r version 1.8.1 on darwin:
 http://r.darwinports.com/
 is that it?
 
 aother question related to that
 if it's possible to use UNIX R in Mac, does anyone know how fast or how
 slow that is?

Tiago,

If it is a CRAN package *without* MacOS version, there obviously is a
reason for this handicap, and you cannot run the package. If it is a
stray package, its developer probably just doesn't have opportunity or
will to build a Mac binary, but you can build it yourself if you're
lucky. Check the FAQ and ReadMe files with your R/Aqua version to see
what you need. With little trouble you can easily use source packages
with your Mac R. Many tools are already installed in your OS (perl at
least). If the package has only R files, you may be able to install a
source package directly. If it has C source code, you should first
install MacOS X Developer tools (XCode): it comes with your OS
installation CD/DVD, but it is not installed by default. If the package
has Fortran source code, you got to find external Fortran compiler:
MacOS X ships with C compiler, but without Fortran compiler. See the Mac
R FAQ for the best alternatives to find the compiler (this FAQ is
installed with your R).

Installing a Darwin R orobably won't help you. It needs and uses exactly
the same tools to build the packages as R/Aqua. If you can't install a
source package in R/Aqua, you cannot install it in R/Darwin, and vice
versa. The toolset is the decisive part, not the R shell. I assume that
both versions of R are just as fast (or slow). R/Aqua uses highly
optimized BLAS for numeric functions, and if R/Darwin uses the same
library, it is just as fast. If it doesn't use optimized BLAS, it will
be clearly slower. 

I have installed Linux in Mac, but I found out that R was clearly (20%)
slower in Linux than in MacOS in the very same piece of hardware. The
main reason seemed to be that Linux R didn't have optimized BLAS because
the largest differences were in functions calling svd and qr (I used
YellowDog Linux) -- the Linux version took 150%(!) longer to run the
same svd-heavy test code. Another reason seemed to be that the Fortran
compiler produces much slower code in Linux than in MacOS X (difference
about 20%).

cheers, jari oksanen
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Re: [R] running R UNIX in a mac computer

2004-06-10 Thread Ulises Mora Alvarez
Hi:

Please tell us: which Mac OS are you using?

If you are using any of the 10.x, then you should download R-1.9.0 at:
http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macosx

If you have anything older (MacOS 9 or lower), then you should visit:
http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macos

Regards...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Tiago R Magalhaes wrote:

 Hi to you all
 
 My question is:
 
 there is a package written in UNIX for which there is no Mac version.
 
 I would like to know if it's possible to install the R UNIX version on the
 MacOSX and run that UNIX package on my Mac (through this UNIX R Vresion on
 a Mac)
 
 I have seen a porfile for r version 1.8.1 on darwin:
 http://r.darwinports.com/
 is that it?
 
 aother question related to that
 if it's possible to use UNIX R in Mac, does anyone know how fast or how
 slow that is?
 
 thanks for any help!
 
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Re: [R] running R UNIX in a mac computer

2004-06-10 Thread Tiago R Magalhaes

Hola ulisses

thank you very much for replying to my posting

I am using the last Mac Version:
OS X 10.3 Panther

I use R in the Mac and it works fine
The thing is that I want to use a package that was made in UNIX and I
wanted to know how easy it would be to run the UNIX version of R in the
Mac so that I can use this package for UNIX...

shouldn't you be watching soccer? some of my UNAM friends are nuts for a
couple of days already!


On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Ulises Mora Alvarez wrote:

 Hi:

 Please tell us: which Mac OS are you using?

 If you are using any of the 10.x, then you should download R-1.9.0 at:
 http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macosx

 If you have anything older (MacOS 9 or lower), then you should visit:
 http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macos

 Regards...

 On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Tiago R Magalhaes wrote:

  Hi to you all
 
  My question is:
 
  there is a package written in UNIX for which there is no Mac version.
 
  I would like to know if it's possible to install the R UNIX version on the
  MacOSX and run that UNIX package on my Mac (through this UNIX R Vresion on
  a Mac)
 
  I have seen a porfile for r version 1.8.1 on darwin:
  http://r.darwinports.com/
  is that it?
 
  aother question related to that
  if it's possible to use UNIX R in Mac, does anyone know how fast or how
  slow that is?
 
  thanks for any help!
 
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Re: [R] running R UNIX in a mac computer

2004-06-10 Thread Ulises Mora Alvarez
Hola!

If you are already using Panther with  R.dmg, then is pretty straight 
forward to use a Unix package (panther it's a kind of Unix). If the 
package is already on CRAN, all you have to do is to search the package 
(either from the command line or from  the menus) and then install. If 
what you are looking for isn't not on CRAN, but it's available as a *.tgz 
or tar.gz or as a collection of files, you can use Install from local 
files in the Packages menu.  

Good look.


PS. Yes, I should be watching soccer (I'm getting my degree at the UNAM), 
but I decided to sacrifice the first half... After all, the final match 
will be on Sunday and the meeting with my committee is close, very 
close... Best regards.


On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Tiago R Magalhaes wrote:

 
 Hola ulisses
 
 thank you very much for replying to my posting
 
 I am using the last Mac Version:
 OS X 10.3 Panther
 
 I use R in the Mac and it works fine
 The thing is that I want to use a package that was made in UNIX and I
 wanted to know how easy it would be to run the UNIX version of R in the
 Mac so that I can use this package for UNIX...
 
 shouldn't you be watching soccer? some of my UNAM friends are nuts for a
 couple of days already!
 
 
 On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Ulises Mora Alvarez wrote:
 
  Hi:
 
  Please tell us: which Mac OS are you using?
 
  If you are using any of the 10.x, then you should download R-1.9.0 at:
  http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macosx
 
  If you have anything older (MacOS 9 or lower), then you should visit:
  http://cran.us.r-project.org/bin/macos
 
  Regards...
 
  On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Tiago R Magalhaes wrote:
 
   Hi to you all
  
   My question is:
  
   there is a package written in UNIX for which there is no Mac version.
  
   I would like to know if it's possible to install the R UNIX version on the
   MacOSX and run that UNIX package on my Mac (through this UNIX R Vresion on
   a Mac)
  
   I have seen a porfile for r version 1.8.1 on darwin:
   http://r.darwinports.com/
   is that it?
  
   aother question related to that
   if it's possible to use UNIX R in Mac, does anyone know how fast or how
   slow that is?
  
   thanks for any help!
  
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Re: [R] running R command in the background

2004-06-04 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
This cannot presently be done, as the R internals do not multitask.  I am 
not sure what you would want to happen if the background and foreground 
commands both tried to write a new version of object `foo', BTW.

Allowing multiple execution threads and setReader() as described in the
Green Book is a design goal and has been since 2001 at least, so don't
expect it soon.  It is hard (lots of the code used, e.g. LINPACK, is not
reentrant and so needs to be semaphored) and if achieved will need
vigilance to keep working.

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Bickel, David wrote:

 Is there a way to call an R function to work in the background within
 the same R session? What I have in mind is the equivalent of adding ''
 at the end of a UNIX command, so that R can process an intensive command
 while I execute other R commands. I want to do this in the same R
 session, rather than with multiple calls to R, so that all my modified
 objects will stay in the same workspace.
 
 I would appreciate any help with this.

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Re: [R] running R command in the background

2004-06-04 Thread Andrew Young

You could try looking at the library fork.  However,
this generally sounds like a bad idea and if you do
this, you're kind of asking for trouble with threading
issues, as R is not thread-safe.

I'm not sure if fork works on all platforms, since I
believe it works by running a unix shell command. But
it's worth a shot.

Best regards,
-Andrew


--- Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This cannot presently be done, as the R internals do
 not multitask.  I am 
 not sure what you would want to happen if the
 background and foreground 
 commands both tried to write a new version of object
 `foo', BTW.
 
 Allowing multiple execution threads and setReader()
 as described in the
 Green Book is a design goal and has been since 2001
 at least, so don't
 expect it soon.  It is hard (lots of the code used,
 e.g. LINPACK, is not
 reentrant and so needs to be semaphored) and if
 achieved will need
 vigilance to keep working.
 
 On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Bickel, David wrote:
 
  Is there a way to call an R function to work in
 the background within
  the same R session? What I have in mind is the
 equivalent of adding ''
  at the end of a UNIX command, so that R can
 process an intensive command
  while I execute other R commands. I want to do
 this in the same R
  session, rather than with multiple calls to R, so
 that all my modified
  objects will stay in the same workspace.
  
  I would appreciate any help with this.
 
 -- 
 Brian D. Ripley, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Professor of Applied Statistics, 
 http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
 University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865
 272861 (self)
 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865
 272866 (PA)
 Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865
 272595
 
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Re: [R] running R command in the background

2004-06-04 Thread Andrew Young
By library I of course mean package.

-Andrew


--- Andrew Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You could try looking at the library fork. 
 However,
 this generally sounds like a bad idea and if you do
 this, you're kind of asking for trouble with
 threading
 issues, as R is not thread-safe.
 
 I'm not sure if fork works on all platforms, since I
 believe it works by running a unix shell command.
 But
 it's worth a shot.
 
 Best regards,
 -Andrew
 
 
 --- Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This cannot presently be done, as the R internals
 do
  not multitask.  I am 
  not sure what you would want to happen if the
  background and foreground 
  commands both tried to write a new version of
 object
  `foo', BTW.
  
  Allowing multiple execution threads and
 setReader()
  as described in the
  Green Book is a design goal and has been since
 2001
  at least, so don't
  expect it soon.  It is hard (lots of the code
 used,
  e.g. LINPACK, is not
  reentrant and so needs to be semaphored) and if
  achieved will need
  vigilance to keep working.
  
  On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Bickel, David wrote:
  
   Is there a way to call an R function to work in
  the background within
   the same R session? What I have in mind is the
  equivalent of adding ''
   at the end of a UNIX command, so that R can
  process an intensive command
   while I execute other R commands. I want to do
  this in the same R
   session, rather than with multiple calls to R,
 so
  that all my modified
   objects will stay in the same workspace.
   
   I would appreciate any help with this.
  
  -- 
  Brian D. Ripley, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Professor of Applied Statistics, 
  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
  University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865
  272861 (self)
  1 South Parks Road, +44 1865
  272866 (PA)
  Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865
  272595
  
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Re: [R] running R command in the background

2004-06-04 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Did you try actually reading the request (let alone the informed 
repsonse you included) ...

 I want to do this in the same session, rather than with multiple calls 
to R,

whereas package fork's DESCRIPTION says

Description: These functions provides simple wrappers around the Unix
process management API calls: fork, wait, waitpid, kill, and
_exit.  This enables construction of programs that utilize
multiple concurrent processes.

exactly what was *not* asked for.


On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Andrew Young wrote:

 By library I of course mean package.
 
 -Andrew
 
 
 --- Andrew Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  You could try looking at the library fork. 
  However,
  this generally sounds like a bad idea and if you do
  this, you're kind of asking for trouble with
  threading
  issues, as R is not thread-safe.
  
  I'm not sure if fork works on all platforms, since I
  believe it works by running a unix shell command.
  But
  it's worth a shot.

Only for zero marks.

  
  Best regards,
  -Andrew
  
  
  --- Prof Brian Ripley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This cannot presently be done, as the R internals
  do
   not multitask.  I am 
   not sure what you would want to happen if the
   background and foreground 
   commands both tried to write a new version of
  object
   `foo', BTW.
   
   Allowing multiple execution threads and
  setReader()
   as described in the
   Green Book is a design goal and has been since
  2001
   at least, so don't
   expect it soon.  It is hard (lots of the code
  used,
   e.g. LINPACK, is not
   reentrant and so needs to be semaphored) and if
   achieved will need
   vigilance to keep working.
   
   On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Bickel, David wrote:
   
Is there a way to call an R function to work in
   the background within
the same R session? What I have in mind is the
   equivalent of adding ''
at the end of a UNIX command, so that R can
   process an intensive command
while I execute other R commands. I want to do
   this in the same R
session, rather than with multiple calls to R,
  so
   that all my modified
objects will stay in the same workspace.

I would appreciate any help with this.
   
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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-04 Thread Christian Schulz
Perhaps this is a interesting starting point for you?

http://steve.stat.tku.edu.tw/R_PHP/doR.html

regards,christian


Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2004 03:26 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I would like to construct a PHP script that runs R to generate a
 graphics file.  Running R itself is no problem.  However, it seems
 impossible to instantiate one of the graphics devices to create
 output.  For example, the normal bitmap devices (e.g., jpeg, png,
 etc.) are derived from X11, which requires a display.  This seems
 true, even if no output is ever directed to a real display.  For some
 reason, the postscript device seems to suffer from similar problems.

 Is there a trick to creating a graphics device in the absence of an
 actual display in order to create an image in a file?

 Thanks for your help.

 Cheers,
 Brook

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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Dalgaard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Below are 2 scripts (png.R and pdf.R) I am trying to run in R from
 PHP.  
 
  # png.R
  x11(display=:5)
  png(filename=g.png)
  plot(1:5)
  graphics.off()
 
  # pdf.R
  pdf(file=g.pdf)
  plot(1:5)
  graphics.off()
 
 Both run from terminals and png.R will run without a normal X server
 if Xvfb is running.  Neither runs under PHP, though (when invoked as
 R --no-save  xxx.R).  They yield the following errors (with the R
 startup banner deleted for compactness):
 
   x11(display=:5)
   png(filename=g.png)
  Error in X11(paste(png::, filename, sep = ), width, height, pointsize,  : 
unable to start device PNG
  In addition: Warning message: 
  could not open PNG file `g.png'
  Execution halted
 
 and
 
   pdf(file=/usr/pkg/share/httpd/htdocs/test-R/g.pdf)
  Error in PDF(file, old$family, old$encoding, old$bg, old$fg, width, height,  :
unable to start device pdf
  In addition: Warning message:
  cannot open `pdf' file argument `/usr/pkg/share/httpd/htdocs/test-R/g.pdf'
  Execution halted
 
 For reference, the R banner information includes the following:
 
 R : Copyright 2003, The R Development Core Team
 Version 1.6.2  (2003-01-10)
 
 Any help on how to get these scripts to work is greatly appreciated.

Your R version is about a year out of date, but that's hardly the
issue. I don't do PHP, but the error message in both cases has to do
with file opening, so how about checking permissions on your current
directory: Try sticking this into your script
 
   system(id; pwd; ls -la) 

Also notice that web applications often take special security measures
and may change one or all of the following: working directory, root
directory, user id, and group id.

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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-04 Thread Joe Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both run from terminals and png.R will run without a normal X server 
if Xvfb is running.

Neither runs under PHP, though (when invoked as R --no-save  
xxx.R).

They yield the following errors (with the R startup banner deleted 
for compactness):

could not open PNG file `g.png'

cannot open `pdf' file argument
`/usr/pkg/share/httpd/htdocs/test-R/g.pdf'
From the evidence above, I'd guess a file permission error. The web 
server probably runs as the user apache or something similar -- does 
that user have write permission to the place where you are trying to 
create the images?

Try writing to /tmp/g.png and /tmp/g.pdf and see if the files get 
created.

HTH,

Joe

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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-03 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Philippe Glaziou wrote:

 @biology.nmsu.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would like to construct a PHP script that runs R to generate a
  graphics file.  Running R itself is no problem.  However, it seems
  impossible to instantiate one of the graphics devices to create
  output.  For example, the normal bitmap devices (e.g., jpeg, png,
  etc.) are derived from X11, which requires a display.  This seems
  true, even if no output is ever directed to a real display.  

It _is_ documented on the help page, and output _is_ directed to a real 
display: you just mever see it.  It is possible make use a virtual display 
such as that provided by Xvfb.

  For some reason, the postscript device seems to suffer from similar
  problems.
  
  Is there a trick to creating a graphics device in the absence of an
  actual display in order to create an image in a file?
 
 
 If you need a bitmap graphic file, I would suggest the use of
 ImageMagick:

You may as well use the bitmap() device built into R, which is also a 
wrapper for the use of ghostscript.  That too is described on the help 
page.

I have never seen a reported problem with getting postscript output from a
script. After reading the posting guide, please give us some useful
details of what happened.

 cunegonde:~/tmp ls
 foo
 
 cunegonde:~/tmp cat foo
 pdf(file=g.pdf)
 plot(1:5)
 dev.off()
 
 cunegonde:~/tmp R --no-save foo/dev/null  convert g.pdf g.png
 
 cunegonde:~/tmp ls -g
 -rw---1 glaziou  3374 2004-02-03 11:58 g.pdf
 -rw---1 glaziou  4115 2004-02-03 11:58 g.png
 -rw---1 glaziou80 2004-02-03 11:58 foo
 
 
 This works from a unix console without X running (the postcript
 device works similarly on my machine). R can easily be fed this
 way with a file and parameters passed from a php script.
 
 

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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-03 Thread Joe Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a trick to creating a graphics device in the absence of an
actual display in order to create an image in a file?
Look for Xvfb (X virtual frame buffer). Not sure what OS you are 
running, but on RH9 and Fedora, at least, there is a package called 
XFree86-Xvfb.

I use Xvfb with the following command:

  /usr/X11R6/bin/Xvfb :5 -screen 0 1024x768x16

More specifically I wrote an init script and set Xvfb up to start as a 
service on boot.

Then in R I use:
  x11(display=:5)
HTH,

Joe

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Re: [R] running R from PHP

2004-02-02 Thread Philippe Glaziou
@biology.nmsu.edu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would like to construct a PHP script that runs R to generate a
 graphics file.  Running R itself is no problem.  However, it seems
 impossible to instantiate one of the graphics devices to create
 output.  For example, the normal bitmap devices (e.g., jpeg, png,
 etc.) are derived from X11, which requires a display.  This seems
 true, even if no output is ever directed to a real display.  For some
 reason, the postscript device seems to suffer from similar problems.
 
 Is there a trick to creating a graphics device in the absence of an
 actual display in order to create an image in a file?


If you need a bitmap graphic file, I would suggest the use of
ImageMagick:


cunegonde:~/tmp ls
foo

cunegonde:~/tmp cat foo
pdf(file=g.pdf)
plot(1:5)
dev.off()

cunegonde:~/tmp R --no-save foo/dev/null  convert g.pdf g.png

cunegonde:~/tmp ls -g
-rw---1 glaziou  3374 2004-02-03 11:58 g.pdf
-rw---1 glaziou  4115 2004-02-03 11:58 g.png
-rw---1 glaziou80 2004-02-03 11:58 foo


This works from a unix console without X running (the postcript
device works similarly on my machine). R can easily be fed this
way with a file and parameters passed from a php script.

-- 
Philippe Glaziou, MD
Epidemiologist
Institut Pasteur du Cambodge

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RE: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment? Thanks!

2004-01-30 Thread Jim Porzak
Thanks to Prof Ripley, Arne, Andy  Bill for unambiguous suggestions!
Linux box is on order.
I'll take notes on our experience  post a follow-up
in a few weeks. May be useful to other folks stuck in the Windows world.
-Jim

At 06:24 AM 1/29/2004, Pikounis, Bill wrote:
Jim,
I would really like to reiterate Professor Ripley's and Arne Henningsen
comments. The problem goes for any analytic software or system you might
want to use, not just R. My impression is that at least for part of it, you
want the individual users to use R as they would on their own desktops.  (If
that is not the case, much of the rest of this note is pure FYI.) Even in
its most advanced 2003 Server edition, Windows is simply not designed to be
a multi-user system.  Sure, it can reliably host a web server that may need
to run quick bursts of R batch-type jobs (analytics) and return results to
a client (e.g. web browser), but that does not sound like what you are
looking for (at least in part). And beyond the technical limitations, use of
Windows Terminal Server (Remote Desktop) / Citrix, etc. will cost much money
and implementation hassle and probably even legal headaches.  We have had
colleagues here at Merck (over my and Andy Liaw's disbelief) that have tried
to shoehorn Windows this way, and even the speed of single, small jobs by 1
logged-on took longer on the server than on their much less powerful
laptops.
A Linux solution is very flexible, in our experiences (we have Windows XP as
corporate desktop standard).  As stated, with Samba, you can map directories
that look like just another drive in Windows Explorer.  Printing is just as
transparent in either direction.  VNC (Virtual Network Computing) is very,
very nice to provide the individual user's Linux environment as just another
window on their Windows desktop. With the free utility of autocutsel,
clipboards can be synchronized for ease of cutting and pasting. And KDE, one
of several window manager analogues to Windows, is very sophisticated and
shares a lot in common with the Windows GUI from a user operations
standpoint. While it may sound like a hassle to get up and running now if
your shop is currently 99% Windows, the benefit will absolutely be clear
later.
Hope that helps,
Bill

Bill Pikounis, Ph.D.
Biometrics Research Department
Merck Research Laboratories
PO Box 2000, MailDrop RY33-300
126 E. Lincoln Avenue
Rahway, New Jersey 07065-0900
USA
Phone: 732 594 3913
Fax: 732 594 1565
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Henningsen
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:45 AM
 To: Jim Porzak
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?


 Hi,

 I also suggest to use a Linux Server. You can work on this
 machine via ssh
 (e.g. with PuTTY) and transfer the input and output files
 with scp or a samba
 server (which is easy to install and very convenient to use
 for windows
 users).

 Arne

 On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:53, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Jim Porzak wrote:
   We are considering setting up a fast, RAM loaded machine
 as an R-server
   to handle the big problems not suitable for individual
 desktops and,
   also, to process ad hoc analysis requests via our portal.
 We are 99% a
   Windows shop, so first choice is a windows server. We'll
 use (D)COM for
   the portal interface and understand that.
  
   What has me stumped is how to easily interface individual
 analyst's
   Windows desktops to the R-server. I haven't seen anything in the
   archives, but I can't imagine this hasn't been done. What
 am I missing?
 
  R is not designed to be client-server on Windows.  People I
 know who do
  this use Windows Terminal Server or Citrix.
 
  I would question the value of this approach.  Unless you
 propose to run
  64-bit Windows, a `RAM loaded' machine isn't `loaded', and
 R under Windows
  handles large amounts of memory much less effectively than
 under Linux.
  64-bit Windows is uncharted territory for R, whereas 64-bit
 Unix/Linux is
  well trodden.

 --
 Arne Henningsen
 Department of Agricultural Economics
 University of Kiel
 Olshausenstr. 40
 D-24098 Kiel (Germany)
 Tel: +49-431-880 4445
 Fax: +49-431-880 1397
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Re: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?

2004-01-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Jim Porzak wrote:

 We are considering setting up a fast, RAM loaded machine as an R-server 
 to handle the big problems not suitable for individual desktops and, also, 
 to process ad hoc analysis requests via our portal. We are 99% a Windows 
 shop, so first choice is a windows server. We'll use (D)COM for the portal 
 interface and understand that.
 
 What has me stumped is how to easily interface individual analyst's Windows 
 desktops to the R-server. I haven't seen anything in the archives, but I 
 can't imagine this hasn't been done. What am I missing?

R is not designed to be client-server on Windows.  People I know who do
this use Windows Terminal Server or Citrix.

I would question the value of this approach.  Unless you propose to run
64-bit Windows, a `RAM loaded' machine isn't `loaded', and R under Windows
handles large amounts of memory much less effectively than under Linux.  
64-bit Windows is uncharted territory for R, whereas 64-bit Unix/Linux is
well trodden.

-- 
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Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
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Re: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?

2004-01-29 Thread Arne Henningsen
Hi, 

I also suggest to use a Linux Server. You can work on this machine via ssh 
(e.g. with PuTTY) and transfer the input and output files with scp or a samba 
server (which is easy to install and very convenient to use for windows 
users).

Arne

On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:53, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Jim Porzak wrote:
  We are considering setting up a fast, RAM loaded machine as an R-server
  to handle the big problems not suitable for individual desktops and,
  also, to process ad hoc analysis requests via our portal. We are 99% a
  Windows shop, so first choice is a windows server. We'll use (D)COM for
  the portal interface and understand that.
 
  What has me stumped is how to easily interface individual analyst's
  Windows desktops to the R-server. I haven't seen anything in the
  archives, but I can't imagine this hasn't been done. What am I missing?

 R is not designed to be client-server on Windows.  People I know who do
 this use Windows Terminal Server or Citrix.

 I would question the value of this approach.  Unless you propose to run
 64-bit Windows, a `RAM loaded' machine isn't `loaded', and R under Windows
 handles large amounts of memory much less effectively than under Linux.
 64-bit Windows is uncharted territory for R, whereas 64-bit Unix/Linux is
 well trodden.

-- 
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Department of Agricultural Economics
University of Kiel
Olshausenstr. 40
D-24098 Kiel (Germany)
Tel: +49-431-880 4445
Fax: +49-431-880 1397
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RE: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?

2004-01-29 Thread Liaw, Andy
I would also give my votes to Linux.  That's essentially the main function
of our Linux boxes, and some of the boxes are `RAM loaded'.  We just use VNC
to connect from the Windoze desktop to the Linux boxes.  We can mount the
Windows shared drives on the Linux boxes for file sharing.  One of my former
interns ran all her R sessions from a Windows shared drive on a Linux box.

Andy

 From: Jim Porzak
 
 We are considering setting up a fast, RAM loaded machine as 
 an R-server 
 to handle the big problems not suitable for individual 
 desktops and, also, 
 to process ad hoc analysis requests via our portal. We are 
 99% a Windows 
 shop, so first choice is a windows server. We'll use (D)COM 
 for the portal 
 interface and understand that.
 
 What has me stumped is how to easily interface individual 
 analyst's Windows 
 desktops to the R-server. I haven't seen anything in the 
 archives, but I 
 can't imagine this hasn't been done. What am I missing?
 
 TIA!
 
 Jim Porzak
 Director of Analytics
 Loyalty Matrix, Inc.
 www.LoyaltyMatrix.com


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RE: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?

2004-01-29 Thread Pikounis, Bill
Jim,
I would really like to reiterate Professor Ripley's and Arne Henningsen
comments. The problem goes for any analytic software or system you might
want to use, not just R. My impression is that at least for part of it, you
want the individual users to use R as they would on their own desktops.  (If
that is not the case, much of the rest of this note is pure FYI.) Even in
its most advanced 2003 Server edition, Windows is simply not designed to be
a multi-user system.  Sure, it can reliably host a web server that may need
to run quick bursts of R batch-type jobs (analytics) and return results to
a client (e.g. web browser), but that does not sound like what you are
looking for (at least in part). And beyond the technical limitations, use of
Windows Terminal Server (Remote Desktop) / Citrix, etc. will cost much money
and implementation hassle and probably even legal headaches.  We have had
colleagues here at Merck (over my and Andy Liaw's disbelief) that have tried
to shoehorn Windows this way, and even the speed of single, small jobs by 1
logged-on took longer on the server than on their much less powerful
laptops. 

A Linux solution is very flexible, in our experiences (we have Windows XP as
corporate desktop standard).  As stated, with Samba, you can map directories
that look like just another drive in Windows Explorer.  Printing is just as
transparent in either direction.  VNC (Virtual Network Computing) is very,
very nice to provide the individual user's Linux environment as just another
window on their Windows desktop. With the free utility of autocutsel,
clipboards can be synchronized for ease of cutting and pasting. And KDE, one
of several window manager analogues to Windows, is very sophisticated and
shares a lot in common with the Windows GUI from a user operations
standpoint. While it may sound like a hassle to get up and running now if
your shop is currently 99% Windows, the benefit will absolutely be clear
later.

Hope that helps,
Bill

Bill Pikounis, Ph.D.

Biometrics Research Department
Merck Research Laboratories
PO Box 2000, MailDrop RY33-300  
126 E. Lincoln Avenue
Rahway, New Jersey 07065-0900
USA

Phone: 732 594 3913
Fax: 732 594 1565


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Henningsen
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:45 AM
 To: Jim Porzak
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [R]Running R remotely in Windows Environment?
 
 
 Hi, 
 
 I also suggest to use a Linux Server. You can work on this 
 machine via ssh 
 (e.g. with PuTTY) and transfer the input and output files 
 with scp or a samba 
 server (which is easy to install and very convenient to use 
 for windows 
 users).
 
 Arne
 
 On Thursday 29 January 2004 08:53, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Jim Porzak wrote:
   We are considering setting up a fast, RAM loaded machine 
 as an R-server
   to handle the big problems not suitable for individual 
 desktops and,
   also, to process ad hoc analysis requests via our portal. 
 We are 99% a
   Windows shop, so first choice is a windows server. We'll 
 use (D)COM for
   the portal interface and understand that.
  
   What has me stumped is how to easily interface individual 
 analyst's
   Windows desktops to the R-server. I haven't seen anything in the
   archives, but I can't imagine this hasn't been done. What 
 am I missing?
 
  R is not designed to be client-server on Windows.  People I 
 know who do
  this use Windows Terminal Server or Citrix.
 
  I would question the value of this approach.  Unless you 
 propose to run
  64-bit Windows, a `RAM loaded' machine isn't `loaded', and 
 R under Windows
  handles large amounts of memory much less effectively than 
 under Linux.
  64-bit Windows is uncharted territory for R, whereas 64-bit 
 Unix/Linux is
  well trodden.
 
 -- 
 Arne Henningsen
 Department of Agricultural Economics
 University of Kiel
 Olshausenstr. 40
 D-24098 Kiel (Germany)
 Tel: +49-431-880 4445
 Fax: +49-431-880 1397
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [R] Running R remotely in Windows Environment? - Xemacs and ssh

2004-01-29 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 04:17:48PM -0800, Vadim Ogranovich wrote:
 Hi,
 
 While we are on the topic of Running R remotely in Windows Environment
 maybe someone could help with the following specific problem. I run R on
 a Linux box from my WindowsXP laptop. I do so via Exceed, which for some
 reasons is inconvenient for me.
 As an alternative I tried to ssh into the linux machine and then run R.
 This worked fine from Cygwin's bash window, but not from under XEmacs
 (native Windows port). After starting ssh Xemacs complained:
 Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal
 and didn't show the prompt. Did anyone figure out how to remotely run R
 from under (X)Emacs on Windows using ssh?

Cygwin can now run an X11 server for you, and it can do it such that the
normal win2k/xp/... window manager controls things -- you need a special
switch the name of which I cannot recall right now (and the windoze system
is at work). Look into the supplied startxin.{bat,sh} which has the line
commented.

So with X11 running on windows machine, you can get via 'ssh -X host' and
get any X11-compliant app back to your windows system.  

Hth, Dirk

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Re: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs

2003-11-13 Thread Philipp Pagel
Hi!

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:59:48AM +, Arne Gjuvsland wrote:
 I have a problem with running my R programs as queue jobs. When I try
 to submit a batch file to the queue with qsub I get the following error
 message:
 
 
 /home/gjuvslan/kluster/R-1.7.1/bin/R.bin: error while loading shared
 libraries: 
 libpcre.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 
 When executed from the command prompt the batch file does its job.

Did you run the script on the same machine in both cases? I got burnt a
couple of times with different machines running different versions of
the OS, non-identical versions of shared libraries etc...

cu
Philipp

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Re: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs

2003-11-13 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Jason Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Philipp Pagel wrote:
  Hi!
  On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:59:48AM +, Arne Gjuvsland wrote:
 
 I have a problem with running my R programs as queue jobs. When I try
 to submit a batch file to the queue with qsub I get the following error
 message:
 
 
 /home/gjuvslan/kluster/R-1.7.1/bin/R.bin: error while loading shared
  libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such
  file or directory
 
 
 When executed from the command prompt the batch file does its job.
  Did you run the script on the same machine in both cases? I got
  burnt a
  couple of times with different machines running different versions of
  the OS, non-identical versions of shared libraries etc...
 
 
 In addition to Philipp's good sugestion, I've been burnt on the same
 machine, but with the batch job running as a different user.  When
 environment variables are needed, or private libraries need to be
 loaded, things go bad very quickly.

Also, environment variables may be set differently between interactive
and batch shells. E.g. my crontab file looks like this

CVS_RSH=ssh
35 0 * * *  $HOME/scripts/r-bugs-commit  /dev/null
...

for a reason. In Arne's case, I'd suspect the setting of
LD_LIBRARY_PATH. 

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Re: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs

2003-11-13 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On 13 Nov 2003, Peter Dalgaard wrote:

 Jason Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Philipp Pagel wrote:
 Hi!
   On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:59:48AM +, Arne Gjuvsland wrote:
  
  I have a problem with running my R programs as queue jobs. When I try
  to submit a batch file to the queue with qsub I get the following error
  message:
  
  
  /home/gjuvslan/kluster/R-1.7.1/bin/R.bin: error while loading shared
   libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such
   file or directory
  
  
  When executed from the command prompt the batch file does its job.
   Did you run the script on the same machine in both cases? I got
   burnt a
   couple of times with different machines running different versions of
   the OS, non-identical versions of shared libraries etc...
  
  
  In addition to Philipp's good sugestion, I've been burnt on the same
  machine, but with the batch job running as a different user.  When
  environment variables are needed, or private libraries need to be
  loaded, things go bad very quickly.
 
 Also, environment variables may be set differently between interactive
 and batch shells. E.g. my crontab file looks like this
 
 CVS_RSH=ssh
 35 0 * * *  $HOME/scripts/r-bugs-commit  /dev/null
 ...
 
 for a reason. In Arne's case, I'd suspect the setting of
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH. 

(The R script will include in R_LD_LIBRARY_PATH the settings used at
configure time, so we do try to workaround that one.  For example my 
64-bit Solaris build has sparcv9 library paths in.)

As an aside, from the next non-patch release PCRE, BZLIB and ZLIB will be
statically linked into R in a vanilla configuration to help avoid such
problems.  (For some reason my RH8.0 system has a dynamic pcreposix but 
only a static pcre, although the current PCRE default build makes both 
versions of each.)

-- 
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Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865 272595

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RE: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs

2003-11-13 Thread JFRI (Jesper Frickman)
A search on Google shows that libpcre.so.0 is a Perl-compatible regular
expression library. Does R use that, or is it the queue script? Have you
checked /usr/lib for that library? Maybe you need to install the library
or rerun ldconfig. You can get info about shared libraries with the ldd
command.

That was some ideas, but no shrink wrapped solutions!

Hilsen Jesper

-Original Message-
From: Arne Gjuvsland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs


I have a problem with running my R programs as queue jobs. When I try to
submit a batch file to the queue with qsub I get the following error
message: 

/home/gjuvslan/kluster/R-1.7.1/bin/R.bin: error while loading shared
libraries: 
libpcre.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory


When executed from the command prompt the batch file does its job.

Any ideas?

Arne

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Re: [R] Running R-program as queue jobs - problem solved

2003-11-13 Thread Arne Gjuvsland
At 11:56 13.11.2003 +, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On 13 Nov 2003, Peter Dalgaard wrote:

 Jason Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Philipp Pagel wrote:
Hi!
   On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 09:59:48AM +, Arne Gjuvsland wrote:
  
  I have a problem with running my R programs as queue jobs. When I try
  to submit a batch file to the queue with qsub I get the following error
  message:
  
  
  /home/gjuvslan/kluster/R-1.7.1/bin/R.bin: error while loading shared
   libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot load shared object file: No such
   file or directory
  
  
  When executed from the command prompt the batch file does its job.
   Did you run the script on the same machine in both cases? I got
   burnt a
   couple of times with different machines running different versions of
   the OS, non-identical versions of shared libraries etc...
  
  
  In addition to Philipp's good sugestion, I've been burnt on the same
  machine, but with the batch job running as a different user.  When
  environment variables are needed, or private libraries need to be
  loaded, things go bad very quickly.
 
 Also, environment variables may be set differently between interactive
 and batch shells. E.g. my crontab file looks like this
 
 CVS_RSH=ssh
 35 0 * * *  $HOME/scripts/r-bugs-commit  /dev/null
 ...
 
 for a reason. In Arne's case, I'd suspect the setting of
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH. 

(The R script will include in R_LD_LIBRARY_PATH the settings used at
configure time, so we do try to workaround that one.  For example my 
64-bit Solaris build has sparcv9 library paths in.)

As an aside, from the next non-patch release PCRE, BZLIB and ZLIB will be
statically linked into R in a vanilla configuration to help avoid such
problems.  (For some reason my RH8.0 system has a dynamic pcreposix but 
only a static pcre, although the current PCRE default build makes both 
versions of each.)

-- 
Brian D. Ripley,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Professor of Applied Statistics,  http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford, Tel:  +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax:  +44 1865 272595


Thanks for helpful advice, the R_LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the R script did not
contain
the path of the library. Now the script is in the queue, waiting for some
quality CPU-time.

Arne

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Re: [R] running R inside of e-macs

2003-01-21 Thread AlessandroSemeria

Have you installed ESS (Emacs Speak Statistics) ?
If not look at http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/

Bye!

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