Re: [R-sig-eco] DCCA in R?

2020-11-11 Thread Peter Solymos
You are right, Attila, I missed the canonical part. It is either detrended
& unconstrained (decorana) or plain & constrained/canonical (cca).

Cheers,

Peter

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:27 PM Attila Lengyel  wrote:

> Dear Peter,
>
> as far as I know, vegan::decorana does not do DCCA (detrended canonical
> correspondence analysis) but the unconstrained DCA. If anyone knows the
> answer for Jonathan's question, please, share it with me, I would also be
> interested.
> Best regards,
>
> Attila
>
> Peter Solymos  ezt írta (időpont: 2020. nov. 5., Cs,
> 19:19):
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> Have you checked ?vegan::decorana (it is also mentioned in the vignette on
>> p 2:
>> https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/vegan/vignettes/intro-vegan.pdf
>> )
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Gordon <
>> jonathangordon...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I’m aiming to perform a detrended canonical correspondence analysis on a
>> > pollen sequence, to create beta diversity curves for pollen sequences
>> > through time. An example of this being done is in Felde (2019) <
>> > https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00334-019-00726-5>. As far
>> as
>> > I can tell, DCCA can’t be done in R packages such as vegan, and can
>> only be
>> > completed in Canoco. I’m keen not to use Canoco because it's not open
>> > access and the processes behind the interface are obscured, making for a
>> > non-repeatable methodology. Please could you advise any way for me to
>> > perform a DCCA to obtain my desired results, or of a different method?
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> > Jonny
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Re: [R-sig-eco] DCCA in R?

2020-11-11 Thread Attila Lengyel
Dear Peter,

as far as I know, vegan::decorana does not do DCCA (detrended canonical
correspondence analysis) but the unconstrained DCA. If anyone knows the
answer for Jonathan's question, please, share it with me, I would also be
interested.
Best regards,

Attila

Peter Solymos  ezt írta (időpont: 2020. nov. 5., Cs,
19:19):

> Jonathan,
>
> Have you checked ?vegan::decorana (it is also mentioned in the vignette on
> p 2:
> https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/vegan/vignettes/intro-vegan.pdf
> )
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Gordon <
> jonathangordon...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I’m aiming to perform a detrended canonical correspondence analysis on a
> > pollen sequence, to create beta diversity curves for pollen sequences
> > through time. An example of this being done is in Felde (2019) <
> > https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00334-019-00726-5>. As far as
> > I can tell, DCCA can’t be done in R packages such as vegan, and can only
> be
> > completed in Canoco. I’m keen not to use Canoco because it's not open
> > access and the processes behind the interface are obscured, making for a
> > non-repeatable methodology. Please could you advise any way for me to
> > perform a DCCA to obtain my desired results, or of a different method?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Jonny
> > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
> >
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> > R-sig-ecology@r-project.org
> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-ecology
> >
>
>
> --
> Péter Sólymos, PhD
> Senior Statistical Ecologist
> soly...@ualberta.ca 780-492-8534
> Alberta Biodiversity Monitoring Institute http://www.abmi.ca
> Boreal Avian Modelling Project http://www.borealbirds.ca
>
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Re: [R-sig-eco] DCCA in R?

2020-11-05 Thread Peter Solymos
Jonathan,

Have you checked ?vegan::decorana (it is also mentioned in the vignette on
p 2: https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/vegan/vignettes/intro-vegan.pdf
)

Cheers,

Peter

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:03 AM Jonathan Gordon 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’m aiming to perform a detrended canonical correspondence analysis on a
> pollen sequence, to create beta diversity curves for pollen sequences
> through time. An example of this being done is in Felde (2019) <
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00334-019-00726-5>. As far as
> I can tell, DCCA can’t be done in R packages such as vegan, and can only be
> completed in Canoco. I’m keen not to use Canoco because it's not open
> access and the processes behind the interface are obscured, making for a
> non-repeatable methodology. Please could you advise any way for me to
> perform a DCCA to obtain my desired results, or of a different method?
>
> Best wishes,
> Jonny
> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>
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