Re: [R-SIG-Mac] How can I stop my R console and other R windows "flickering" after I updated my Mac OS to Sonoma 14.0?

2023-10-02 Thread Calboli Federico (LUKE)
I have the same problem in R app, but not in R studio, so there is a simple 
workaround at this stage. Others have reported the same (problem and R studio 
working ok).

BW

Federico

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Dear All,

I updated my Apple Silicon M1 Pro MacBook from Ventura to Sonoma 14.0. I have 
the latest version of R for Apple Silicon (4.3.1, "Beagle Scouts"). I also have 
the latest version of XQuartz (2.8.5).

On Ventura, my R setup worked fine ("classic" R.app GUI using console and 
script windows, not Rstudio or terminal). However, with Sonoma, when I try and 
toggle between the R console and an R script, the windows transition at very 
high speed between each other, making it nearly impossible to select either the 
console or the script.

This "flickering" phenomenon lasts for ~ 10-15 seconds each time I change 
windows between console and script, making the software nearly unusable. 
Changing the screen refresh rate does not help.

The problem is specific for R.app and does not affect other software.

Any suggestions gratefully received. I have also posted this question to 
stackoverflow.

Many thanks,

Desmond Smith





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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] How can I stop my R console and other R windows "flickering" after I updated my Mac OS to Sonoma 14.0?

2023-10-01 Thread Smith, Desmond
Thanks so much for the information, Simon! Glad to know it is just not me…

It was indeed ill-advised of me to upgrade the Operating System so soon. But, 
by bitter experience do we near ever closer to saintliness…

Thanks very much, again!

Cheers,

Des


From: Simon Urbanek 
Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 1:18 PM
To: Smith, Desmond 
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Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] How can I stop my R console and other R windows 
"flickering" after I updated my Mac OS to Sonoma 14.0?
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Desmond,

thanks for the report. There seem to be windows focus issue in Sonoma so I 
would not recommend upgrading at this point. Hopefully this will be fixed in a 
future macOS update (the .0 versions are notoriously flaky) - in the meantime 
I'll see if there is any work-around we could do in R.

Cheers,
Simon



> On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:46 AM, Smith, Desmond  wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I updated my Apple Silicon M1 Pro MacBook from Ventura to Sonoma 14.0. I have 
> the latest version of R for Apple Silicon (4.3.1, "Beagle Scouts"). I also 
> have the latest version of XQuartz (2.8.5).
>
> On Ventura, my R setup worked fine ("classic" R.app GUI using console and 
> script windows, not Rstudio or terminal). However, with Sonoma, when I try 
> and toggle between the R console and an R script, the windows transition at 
> very high speed between each other, making it nearly impossible to select 
> either the console or the script.
>
> This "flickering" phenomenon lasts for ~ 10-15 seconds each time I change 
> windows between console and script, making the software nearly unusable. 
> Changing the screen refresh rate does not help.
>
> The problem is specific for R.app and does not affect other software.
>
> Any suggestions gratefully received. I have also posted this question to 
> stackoverflow.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Desmond Smith
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [R-SIG-Mac] How can I stop my R console and other R windows "flickering" after I updated my Mac OS to Sonoma 14.0?

2023-10-01 Thread Simon Urbanek
Desmond,

thanks for the report. There seem to be windows focus issue in Sonoma so I 
would not recommend upgrading at this point. Hopefully this will be fixed in a 
future macOS update (the .0 versions are notoriously flaky) - in the meantime 
I'll see if there is any work-around we could do in R.

Cheers,
Simon



> On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:46 AM, Smith, Desmond  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I updated my Apple Silicon M1 Pro MacBook from Ventura to Sonoma 14.0. I have 
> the latest version of R for Apple Silicon (4.3.1, "Beagle Scouts"). I also 
> have the latest version of XQuartz (2.8.5).
> 
> On Ventura, my R setup worked fine ("classic" R.app GUI using console and 
> script windows, not Rstudio or terminal). However, with Sonoma, when I try 
> and toggle between the R console and an R script, the windows transition at 
> very high speed between each other, making it nearly impossible to select 
> either the console or the script.
> 
> This "flickering" phenomenon lasts for ~ 10-15 seconds each time I change 
> windows between console and script, making the software nearly unusable. 
> Changing the screen refresh rate does not help.
> 
> The problem is specific for R.app and does not affect other software.
> 
> Any suggestions gratefully received. I have also posted this question to 
> stackoverflow.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Desmond Smith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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