[RBW] Re: Semi-Epic Ride Planned for Sunday, July 5
Looked like a lot of fun. I'm game for the next one...and I have Mill Valley 2010 on my calendar! On Jul 5, 10:24 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Eleven Rough Riders enjoyed a fantastic day of cycling in the first real hot weather of 2009: It hit about 100 at some points. The route featured the greatest hits of the Mt. Laguna back country: Viejas Grade, Boulder Creek, Lake Cuyamaca, Descanso, and Wildwood Glen Ln (AKA Mad Max Road) with a start/finish in Alpine, CA. 58 miles with about 5000' of elevation gain. Report, route sheet, and more: http//www.xo-1.org/ Video Slideshow with Music:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2009/2009bouldercreek.html Image gallery:http://adventurecorps.smugmug.com/gallery/8806203_hhSpb/1/583082872_z... - Chris Kostman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wheels North Blog
I'm confused. Are you guys following the original route of the book and riding single speed/fixed gears? It would be cool to try to ride the ride with simplified drivetrains, unsupported, in non-cycling clothing. That would be my version of the ride. You can even start out with a small amount of money and take on odd jobs as you go to fund your way. But cool that the ride is being organized as a fundraiser. Good luck. LL On Jul 4, 8:09 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: A quick wrap-up of Day One: http://wheelsnorth.blogspot.com More than $55,000 raised so far to help fight Histiocytosis! Give online atwww.wheelsnorth.org --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
Got my first flat in a year and a half on CdlVs after our So Cal +24O last weekend - woke up Monday morning after 160 miles Sat Sun and a thorn had deflated the rear tire overnight. I really like the CdlVs - I don't know what else I could ask of them - especially for the price. I have no experience with the Middys - but I would love to see a Big Apple for my Rawland. LOVE to see that. Schwalbe out to bring to market more tires, I agree. Are Hetres really the cat's meow? On Jul 6, 9:30 am, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the Marathon HC that everyone is talking about/ Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 5, 10:07 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them a lot. I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in wobble. The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of all) no flats yet. On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
I'm a believer in Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. Been running 35s on my Atlantis for nearly 6,000 miles with zero flats (knock wood!). Flat resistance is my first priority, then wear. The rear is worn out and the front still has life in it. At 50-60 psi, they're comfy IMO but I've never ridden the above mentioned tires. On the subject of cost, most tires have gone up a LOT in the last year, so $50-$70 for a high quality tire is common. Doug Peterson On Jul 6, 10:10 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Got my first flat in a year and a half on CdlVs after our So Cal +24O last weekend - woke up Monday morning after 160 miles Sat Sun and a thorn had deflated the rear tire overnight. I really like the CdlVs - I don't know what else I could ask of them - especially for the price. I have no experience with the Middys - but I would love to see a Big Apple for my Rawland. LOVE to see that. Schwalbe out to bring to market more tires, I agree. Are Hetres really the cat's meow? On Jul 6, 9:30 am, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the Marathon HC that everyone is talking about/ Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 5, 10:07 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: I got about 3 months on the Schwalbe Marathons (650b) and I like them a lot. I converted from CDlv's and to be honest I really can tell much difference. My biggest gripe with the CDLVs was that they were a major pain to mount and some of them appeared to have a built-in wobble. The Marathons mount easily, ride comfortably, and (best of all) no flats yet. On Jul 5, 6:32 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to hold out for a Marathon Supreme in 650b. Given the market for $50+ (I have trouble paying auto tire prices for bicycle tires, personally) 650b tires, I think Schwalbe missed the boat manufacturing the ho-hum Middy that competes in price with the 105/Ultegra standard Col de la Vie. Street prices of the CdV are tough to beat for performance; I have trouble justifying automobile tire prices on a bicycle -- wasn't there at least one contributor on an ancillary list who traded in some of those very colorful and expensive tires, returning to CdVs, sensing no discernable difference? Tempted to trade up from CdVs to a more durable tire, (superstitions aside) we've had phenomenal flat free performance these last six months with ours (two Bleriots); that's about 2500 mi. Then again, I'm eyeing the street price of Fatty Rumpkins ... Cheers, Chris Tucson, AZ On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Actually just noticed Schwalbe is now selling a basic Marathin 650b. No Supreme, Big Apple, Fat frank or Ultremo yet though. On Jul 5, 8:00 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Schwalbe are justifiably popular with distance tourers, mountain bikers, and among specialty bike - folders, recumbents, adult trikes - owners. Schwalbe 650b offering is relatively recent. It will be interesting to see whether it starts offering some of its mainstay tires as 650b. Of course those would cost a lot more than the one Riv is selling now. On Jul 5, 1:25 pm, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Just my opinion but the Hetre is the center of its own universe. The only tire that could even dream of revolving in its golden orbit would be a 40mm Pasela. Failing that, we have the CdlV which is alternately praised in dulcet tones or vilified back to the primeval muck it came from. I believe Schwalbe tires are quite serviceable and may even reign supreme in the world of flat resistance and durability - that is to say, in commuterland. Kathryn Eugene, OR On Jul 4, 11:23 am, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see any discussion on the archives about these tires. Anyone ridden them? Or the fatty 650Bs from Schwalbe that Riv sells? I'm anxious to try a fat tire, and would like the Hetre were it not for the $62 price tag. I realize these Schwalbes may not compare, but I'd like some input on how they ride. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
On Jul 6, 1:10 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Are Hetres really the cat's meow? the hetre offers an exceptional blend of speed, comfort, versatility and durability. cat's meow? maybe - depends on personal preferences. fun and unique? absolutely. lately, i'm most impressed with their durability. full brevet series on them this year (and numerous training rides, including lots of dirt) - no flats and they are wearing incredibly well. for whatever reason, however, I'm enjoying a much longer life out the black ones than I did with the red ones. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] SLO TV tower loop
Spent the weekend in San Luis Obispo helping my Cal Poly student daughter set up a new apartment. While wife daughter were busy shopping for all the basics (and then some), on Saturday I snuck away for a great ride on seriously mixed surfaces. From Monterey and 101, I took 101 north (yes, it's legal at that point) to Stagecoach Rd, easily found by the green bike route sign directing you to a tunnel under the freeway. Stageocoach is aptly named, following the old route up Cuesta Grade on the opposite side of the canyon from 101. Beautiful climb thru oak trees. Several parked cars at the bottom but only saw one cyclist (coming down) on the climb. At the top of Cuesta Grade, the route is paved but it's falling apart and so discourages motor vehicles. It continues to climb to a ridgeline, then rolls out west. 3 miles from Cuesta is the TV tower facility and it's got every type of antenna there is. The several maps I consulted did not agree what happened at the other end of the ridgeline but some hikers said they'd heard it was possible to get to Hwy 41 (connects Atascadero and Morro Bay). Since it was still early and I had plenty of food and water, it only seemed sensible to keep heading west. After that, a pickup truck with 3 MTBs in back passed me (what's wrong with that picture?) but I didn't see anyone else for a long while. The road is paved but not maintained, and follows the natural terrain so lots of short, steep climbs descents keep the speed down. After a couple of hours I came to a second set of antennas and the pavement definitely ended as the road narrowed. It was mostly descending so it seemed to be heading the right way. Coming around one corner I came upon a huge rock slide blocking the road. Boulders the size of big chairs dictated careful portage over about 100'. Shortly after that I came to a trail branching off to the right (north) that was marked by the Forest Service. Just then a mountain biker appeared and asked how the heck I got there ON THAT (referring to my Atlantis!). Silly question, same way he got there, turning the pedals. When I told him my route and where I was going, he changed his tune and was amazed at the notion of riding your bike to from the trailhead. Some people are easily impressed. Anyway, he was helpful in giving me directions off the mountain (several options at this point) and down to Alto Cerro campground. At that point, I was on Hwy 41 and had covered 18 miles from start. 41 west to Morro Bay, then 1 south back to SLO gave a total for the day of 42 miles in about 6 hours. Altogther a fun ride and much better than shopping for shelf paper. dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SLO TV tower loop
Well, it is a good thing the rocks had already slid and forced you to portage around. A lot better than if they slid while you were riding there! Gotta love those MTBers. Seriously though if he was on a fully suspended MTB they can be a bit of a pain riding on streets. They make me dizzy anyway. On Jul 6, 2:32 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Spent the weekend in San Luis Obispo helping my Cal Poly student daughter set up a new apartment. While wife daughter were busy shopping for all the basics (and then some), on Saturday I snuck away for a great ride on seriously mixed surfaces. From Monterey and 101, I took 101 north (yes, it's legal at that point) to Stagecoach Rd, easily found by the green bike route sign directing you to a tunnel under the freeway. Stageocoach is aptly named, following the old route up Cuesta Grade on the opposite side of the canyon from 101. Beautiful climb thru oak trees. Several parked cars at the bottom but only saw one cyclist (coming down) on the climb. At the top of Cuesta Grade, the route is paved but it's falling apart and so discourages motor vehicles. It continues to climb to a ridgeline, then rolls out west. 3 miles from Cuesta is the TV tower facility and it's got every type of antenna there is. The several maps I consulted did not agree what happened at the other end of the ridgeline but some hikers said they'd heard it was possible to get to Hwy 41 (connects Atascadero and Morro Bay). Since it was still early and I had plenty of food and water, it only seemed sensible to keep heading west. After that, a pickup truck with 3 MTBs in back passed me (what's wrong with that picture?) but I didn't see anyone else for a long while. The road is paved but not maintained, and follows the natural terrain so lots of short, steep climbs descents keep the speed down. After a couple of hours I came to a second set of antennas and the pavement definitely ended as the road narrowed. It was mostly descending so it seemed to be heading the right way. Coming around one corner I came upon a huge rock slide blocking the road. Boulders the size of big chairs dictated careful portage over about 100'. Shortly after that I came to a trail branching off to the right (north) that was marked by the Forest Service. Just then a mountain biker appeared and asked how the heck I got there ON THAT (referring to my Atlantis!). Silly question, same way he got there, turning the pedals. When I told him my route and where I was going, he changed his tune and was amazed at the notion of riding your bike to from the trailhead. Some people are easily impressed. Anyway, he was helpful in giving me directions off the mountain (several options at this point) and down to Alto Cerro campground. At that point, I was on Hwy 41 and had covered 18 miles from start. 41 west to Morro Bay, then 1 south back to SLO gave a total for the day of 42 miles in about 6 hours. Altogther a fun ride and much better than shopping for shelf paper. dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] S24O on Hillborne
Finally was able to schedule a day off work and have the weather cooperate. So Sunday afternoon loaded up the Sam Hillborne and headed out from my house to William O'Brien State Park. About 30 miles from my house. Didn't make advance reservations, hoping the campground wasn't too full on a Sunday night. No issues outside of traffic on the way out. For the last 7 to 10 miles, the road follows a major highway and the shoulders are not great. Wide enough, but poorly maintained. Had to concentrate quite a bit. (And was also thankful for the rear view mirror a few times. Probably kept me from swerving into traffic that wasn't moving over.) Took my traditional stop at Marine on St. Croix where I had an ice cream cone and picked up a couple of items at the general store. Campground was fairly empty. And this year decided to get a campsite down by the river. That has good and bad aspects. The bad - a steep climb out of the river bottoms back to the road or bike path. Good - well sheltered and great views of the St. Croix river. After getting camp set up, rode back to the headquarters to buy some wood. Found out the strap I had was just a bit too short. So, balanced the load on the rack and rode back very carefully. A good experience. Campground was about half full. Made friends with my neighbors who were also staying just one night with the kids. Slept better than last time. Still not great, but better. Might have to break down and carry the air mattress next time. The ride home was a lot of climbing. Although this year seemed easier than last. I'll give credit to the bike, because there's no way I'm in better shape. As to the Hillborne, it worked beautifully. Considering I probably significantly overloaded the rear, it had no complaints.This could easily be a bike that could handle a long tour. Pictures of the ride are here - http://tinyurl.com/mr3q6a Lastly - yesterday was the two month anniversary for my owning the Hillborne. Although today is the first ride anniversary. To date, have a bit over 1,100 miles on the bike. Not that it matters, but that's the most I've put on any bike in such a short period of time. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SLO TV tower loop
Great story, Doug - and great ride. That's lovely terrain up there. On Jul 6, 12:32 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Spent the weekend in San Luis Obispo helping my Cal Poly student daughter set up a new apartment. While wife daughter were busy shopping for all the basics (and then some), on Saturday I snuck away for a great ride on seriously mixed surfaces. From Monterey and 101, I took 101 north (yes, it's legal at that point) to Stagecoach Rd, easily found by the green bike route sign directing you to a tunnel under the freeway. Stageocoach is aptly named, following the old route up Cuesta Grade on the opposite side of the canyon from 101. Beautiful climb thru oak trees. Several parked cars at the bottom but only saw one cyclist (coming down) on the climb. At the top of Cuesta Grade, the route is paved but it's falling apart and so discourages motor vehicles. It continues to climb to a ridgeline, then rolls out west. 3 miles from Cuesta is the TV tower facility and it's got every type of antenna there is. The several maps I consulted did not agree what happened at the other end of the ridgeline but some hikers said they'd heard it was possible to get to Hwy 41 (connects Atascadero and Morro Bay). Since it was still early and I had plenty of food and water, it only seemed sensible to keep heading west. After that, a pickup truck with 3 MTBs in back passed me (what's wrong with that picture?) but I didn't see anyone else for a long while. The road is paved but not maintained, and follows the natural terrain so lots of short, steep climbs descents keep the speed down. After a couple of hours I came to a second set of antennas and the pavement definitely ended as the road narrowed. It was mostly descending so it seemed to be heading the right way. Coming around one corner I came upon a huge rock slide blocking the road. Boulders the size of big chairs dictated careful portage over about 100'. Shortly after that I came to a trail branching off to the right (north) that was marked by the Forest Service. Just then a mountain biker appeared and asked how the heck I got there ON THAT (referring to my Atlantis!). Silly question, same way he got there, turning the pedals. When I told him my route and where I was going, he changed his tune and was amazed at the notion of riding your bike to from the trailhead. Some people are easily impressed. Anyway, he was helpful in giving me directions off the mountain (several options at this point) and down to Alto Cerro campground. At that point, I was on Hwy 41 and had covered 18 miles from start. 41 west to Morro Bay, then 1 south back to SLO gave a total for the day of 42 miles in about 6 hours. Altogther a fun ride and much better than shopping for shelf paper. dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Middy 650B
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 12:06 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: On Jul 6, 1:10 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Are Hetres really the cat's meow? the hetre offers an exceptional blend of speed, comfort, versatility and durability. cat's meow? maybe - depends on personal preferences. fun and unique? absolutely. I love 'em. Wouldn't liken them to a cat's meow, though; more like this: http://www.erbzine.com/mag19/Yell_Original.mp3 They are simply amazing and marvelous. I mentioned the other day our latest dirt road ride (where 650B outnumbered everyone else); I didn't mention that the Hetres were so much more stable and comfortable on gravel roads that I found myself comfortably and confidently going down hills at least 5-10 mph faster than I'd dared to in the past. lately, i'm most impressed with their durability. full brevet series on them this year (and numerous training rides, including lots of dirt) - no flats and they are wearing incredibly well. for whatever reason, however, I'm enjoying a much longer life out the black ones than I did with the red ones. I've got the red ones. So far, so good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a club-riding bike, so even lighter. It will be called one of these: Rodeo...Roadio...Roadeo. And we'll offer it in your choice of threadless (for most club riders) and threaded (for more traditionalists). No rack braze-ons, light tubes, but still our bike thru thru, with our lugs, our design and choice of tubing, all that. We'll have the prototype by late July, and Mark will build it up and ride it, since he was the impetus behind it. I was shocked--shocked! when I saw there were to be no rack braze ons, but then I realized it will likely still have fender braze ons. That's fine. I wonder if it will be Taiwanese or Toyo? Expanded or normal? While I'm doing one of my incredibly infrequent postings, here's a bike I'd like to see: - Taiwanese Quickbeam replacement (because I'm cheap and I like the sloping/expanded top tube look) - but with caliper brakes (because I'm tired of cantis in most of my bike history, and it should make the bike a bit cheaper to produce since there are no canti studs to weld on, and there's really no reason now for cantis except when using fat knobby tires) - and please not light metallic blue (because I really don't like that color) - and maybe more roadish geometry Eric D Dublin OH --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
Cool! That Grant's a tease. On Jul 6, 4:15 pm, ericda...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a club-riding bike, so even lighter. It will be called one of these: Rodeo...Roadio...Roadeo. And we'll offer it in your choice of threadless (for most club riders) and threaded (for more traditionalists). No rack braze-ons, light tubes, but still our bike thru thru, with our lugs, our design and choice of tubing, all that. We'll have the prototype by late July, and Mark will build it up and ride it, since he was the impetus behind it. I was shocked--shocked! when I saw there were to be no rack braze ons, but then I realized it will likely still have fender braze ons. That's fine. I wonder if it will be Taiwanese or Toyo? Expanded or normal? While I'm doing one of my incredibly infrequent postings, here's a bike I'd like to see: - Taiwanese Quickbeam replacement (because I'm cheap and I like the sloping/expanded top tube look) - but with caliper brakes (because I'm tired of cantis in most of my bike history, and it should make the bike a bit cheaper to produce since there are no canti studs to weld on, and there's really no reason now for cantis except when using fat knobby tires) - and please not light metallic blue (because I really don't like that color) - and maybe more roadish geometry Eric D Dublin OH --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 23:15 +, ericda...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a club-riding bike, so even lighter. It will be called one of these: Rodeo...Roadio...Roadeo. And we'll offer it in your choice of threadless (for most club riders) and threaded (for more traditionalists). No rack braze-ons, light tubes, but still our bike thru thru, with our lugs, our design and choice of tubing, all that. We'll have the prototype by late July, and Mark will build it up and ride it, since he was the impetus behind it. I was shocked--shocked! when I saw there were to be no rack braze ons, There almost were no rack braze-ons on the Rambouillet. I wonder what Grant means by light tubes... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Potential Pacenti 650B x 38mm performance tire
Hi, folks. This news appeared over on the 650B list today (sorry if a repeat/ cross post), and thought the tire might be of interest to RBW owner folks: http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddwzhzms_99ffx9d5hg Dear 650b enthusiasts, Following the success of my 650b MTB tires many of you have contacted me asking whether or not I would consider making a 650b tire for the road. Initially I was not inclined to make a road tire, but now feel the demand would justify my efforts. In response to this demand, I have designed the dream tire many of you have been asking for. The Pari-MotoT tire will be a high performance, 650x38b tire with a light, supple casing and fine file tread pattern. This tire is sure to be lighter, faster and smoother riding than any other 650x38b tire currently available. If I were to start production on the mould tooling today, the tires should land in the US sometime in late November. And with the support of all the 650b list members the Pari-MotoT can become a reality very quickly. However, I feel I should be explicit in what I mean by 'support' so that we are all on the same page. If I am to produce this tire, I must pre- sell a minimum of 200 pairs of tires by August 15th, 2009 to cover the tooling costs. If you believe that this tire should be produced, if you are willing to place an order in advance, and if you can wait six months for delivery, we'll all be rolling around on new tires before the year is out. The tires will initially be sold in pairs only for $118.00 per pair and be shipped USPS Priority Flat Rate service for an additional $12.00 anywhere in the continental US. Foreign orders will incur some additional shipping charges that can be billed for at the time of shipment. Please fill out the attached order form and mail it along with your check. If you prefer to pay by credit card or live outside the continental US, please email me for details. If you have any further questions about the tire, please do not hesitate to ask. Best regards, Kirk Pacenti Pacenti Cycle Design www.bikelugs.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
I wonder if it will fit Jack Browns, or be limited to 28's? On Jul 6, 4:15 pm, ericda...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a club-riding bike, so even lighter. It will be called one of these: Rodeo...Roadio...Roadeo. And we'll offer it in your choice of threadless (for most club riders) and threaded (for more traditionalists). No rack braze-ons, light tubes, but still our bike thru thru, with our lugs, our design and choice of tubing, all that. We'll have the prototype by late July, and Mark will build it up and ride it, since he was the impetus behind it. I was shocked--shocked! when I saw there were to be no rack braze ons, but then I realized it will likely still have fender braze ons. That's fine. I wonder if it will be Taiwanese or Toyo? Expanded or normal? While I'm doing one of my incredibly infrequent postings, here's a bike I'd like to see: - Taiwanese Quickbeam replacement (because I'm cheap and I like the sloping/expanded top tube look) - but with caliper brakes (because I'm tired of cantis in most of my bike history, and it should make the bike a bit cheaper to produce since there are no canti studs to weld on, and there's really no reason now for cantis except when using fat knobby tires) - and please not light metallic blue (because I really don't like that color) - and maybe more roadish geometry Eric D Dublin OH --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] vegan bags????
Vegan bags? Please tell me someone else has more info on this. I've been hoping for some leather-free items and this sounds great but I'd love to hear (or see) a prototype or any info on them at all. It's like a happy day to see a vegan bag mention on the riv site. Next thing you know there will be pre-order forms up for a tandem. :) -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Potential Pacenti 650B x 38mm performance tire
On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Esteban wrote: The tires will initially be sold in pairs only for $118.00 per pair and be shipped USPS Priority Flat Rate service for an additional $12.00 anywhere in the continental US. So $65 a tire. Yikes. And I thought the Grand Bois were overpriced. I realize there are issues like the dis-economies of small scale products, costs of moldings and all, but jeez. I'll stick with my $20 Paselas on 26 and 700C rims, thanks. The local roads are crappy enough that spending $50 on tires is just a waste of money. They'll be punctured or cut long before they'll be worn out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Potential Pacenti 650B x 38mm performance tire
I wonder if high performance means high pressure? Sure sounds interesting, might have to give these a try. Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:41:03 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Potential Pacenti 650B x 38mm performance tire From: proto...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Hi, folks. This news appeared over on the 650B list today (sorry if a repeat/ cross post), and thought the tire might be of interest to RBW owner folks: http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddwzhzms_99ffx9d5hg Dear 650b enthusiasts, Following the success of my 650b MTB tires many of you have contacted me asking whether or not I would consider making a 650b tire for the road. Initially I was not inclined to make a road tire, but now feel the demand would justify my efforts. In response to this demand, I have designed the dream tire many of you have been asking for. The Pari-MotoT tire will be a high performance, 650x38b tire with a light, supple casing and fine file tread pattern. This tire is sure to be lighter, faster and smoother riding than any other 650x38b tire currently available. If I were to start production on the mould tooling today, the tires should land in the US sometime in late November. And with the support of all the 650b list members the Pari-MotoT can become a reality very quickly. However, I feel I should be explicit in what I mean by 'support' so that we are all on the same page. If I am to produce this tire, I must pre- sell a minimum of 200 pairs of tires by August 15th, 2009 to cover the tooling costs. If you believe that this tire should be produced, if you are willing to place an order in advance, and if you can wait six months for delivery, we'll all be rolling around on new tires before the year is out. The tires will initially be sold in pairs only for $118.00 per pair and be shipped USPS Priority Flat Rate service for an additional $12.00 anywhere in the continental US. Foreign orders will incur some additional shipping charges that can be billed for at the time of shipment. Please fill out the attached order form and mail it along with your check. If you prefer to pay by credit card or live outside the continental US, please email me for details. If you have any further questions about the tire, please do not hesitate to ask. Best regards, Kirk Pacenti Pacenti Cycle Design www.bikelugs.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
This is great news. It's the one bike missing in the line-up. I like the threadless option too. (I've become a handlebar-2.5-cm-below-the-saddle-guy and no longer care about the ease of up and down adjustment that the quill offers.) Jack Browns are by far my favorite tire, but not every ride has to use them (and maybe this bike will). This is going to be a great bike. (Ask any Ram, Romulus, Heron Road, Longlow or Riv Road Standard rider. I'm speculating that this bike will fall somewhere within that spectrum.) -James On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:15 PM, ericda...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a club-riding bike, so even lighter. It will be called one of these: Rodeo...Roadio...Roadeo. And we'll offer it in your choice of threadless (for most club riders) and threaded (for more traditionalists). No rack braze-ons, light tubes, but still our bike thru thru, with our lugs, our design and choice of tubing, all that. We'll have the prototype by late July, and Mark will build it up and ride it, since he was the impetus behind it. I was shocked--shocked! when I saw there were to be no rack braze ons, but then I realized it will likely still have fender braze ons. That's fine. I wonder if it will be Taiwanese or Toyo? Expanded or normal? While I'm doing one of my incredibly infrequent postings, here's a bike I'd like to see: - Taiwanese Quickbeam replacement (because I'm cheap and I like the sloping/expanded top tube look) - but with caliper brakes (because I'm tired of cantis in most of my bike history, and it should make the bike a bit cheaper to produce since there are no canti studs to weld on, and there's really no reason now for cantis except when using fat knobby tires) - and please not light metallic blue (because I really don't like that color) - and maybe more roadish geometry Eric D Dublin O --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
