Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures

2010-01-25 Thread nawrock


Adam, 

Nice bike, what brand of headset did you go with?  Cant tell by the pix. 

Enjoy, 

Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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From: Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:28:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures 

Sorry - that link was to a picture and not the album, here: 
http://picasaweb.google.com/adam.defayette/RivendellRoadeo?feat=directlink 

The tires (Challenge Parigi-Roubaix) are sold as a 27 and look like a 
27 to me but I haven't measured. 

They feel great - the whole bike does. I had this fear throughout the 
assembly that the bike wouldn't fit - Rivendell had me going with a 57 
based on their measurement system, but I instead went with a 59 
(closer to what I am used to riding - I'm 6 '2 - and it seems 
perfect. 

Can't wait to to get this bike seriously out on the road in the 
Spring. 

On Jan 24, 8:23 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: 
 Looks really nice.  How do you like the tires?  What is the actual 
 width on those once inflated? 
 
 Rob 
 
 On Jan 23, 3:11 pm, Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
  Check it 
  out:http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7IDE6Lx7BsB_In1Rke29SQ?feat=dire...
   
 
  Just finished wheel-build and assembly. 
 
  Standard Riv-parts, except for the stem and handlebars which I 
  salvaged from a 1981 Raleigh SuperGrandPrix. 

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Re: [RBW] Photos From SFR 200K

2010-01-25 Thread nawrock


Jim, 

Thanks for posting, gawd I miss the ocean. 

Dave 
Fort Collins, CO 

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:01:01 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: [RBW] Photos From SFR 200K 

Took the Quickbeam out on Saturday's 200K brevet put on by the San Francisco 
Randonneurs.  Here are the lightly commented photos - 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623151790881 

Still working on the ride report.  I'll post the link when that gets 
written. 

Definitely saw some nice Rivendell iron out on the route - another 
Quickbeam, a few Atlantii, and at least one Hilsen.  The weather was perfect 
- just enough rain to make you glad you rigged fenders, but mostly sun and 
easy breezes. 

Enjoy! 

- Jim 

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[RBW] Re: Rainy Day Rack Job Was: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-25 Thread MichaelH
I have a Mark's Mini Rack and an Acorn bag on my Rambouillet.  Works
great.
Michael

On Jan 24, 10:50 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Acorn bag needs a front rack, which the Ram doesn't have braze-ons
 for.

 Riv is coming out with a Sackville rando bag that mounts to the
 h'bars.  It's been briefly discussed here, but Id wait till the
 official word comes out, which should be soon,

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

 On Jan 24, 1:43 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:



  All this talk about Ram racking got me out in the garage, since it is 
  raining to beat the band here in central AL today. I put a V-O constructeur 
  rear rack on my Saluki, and am pretty happy with the result. Too crummy to 
  take it outside for pictures, but it looks nice with Baggins  L'il Loafer 
  in front, Baggins Keven bag under the seat and the rack (which will hold 
  bigger bags when needed, or stuff on its top.

  Installation was pretty straightforward. I used some faucet washers to 
  dampen any vibration on the screws passing through the fender.

  Tailwinds

  bruce

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[RBW] Re: RBW Owners Google Map

2010-01-25 Thread Leslie
A couple of suggestions:

1) Don't change the 'title' of the map, just the name of your
placemark.

2)  Some people may not want to be overly precise in their location,
or are cautious about divulging personal info.   If you have such
concerns, I would suggest placing your location mark near the center
of your town, or town hall, or at a nearby point-of-interest or
landmark, instead of actually at your house, and use your 'group name'
instead of your real name ('course, my 'group name' is my name,
lol...).  But if you aren't overly concerned, then feel free to be as
precise as you wish.

FWIW...



On Jan 24, 6:26 pm, Anthony Castellino rubiconmanagem...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
  renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
   After a recent post in this group regarding the whereabouts of other
   Riv owners and available resources, I decided to create an interactive
   Google Map of Rivendell resources in which everyone can contribute (it
   just took a rainy Sunday to actually get it done.)

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/interactive-google-maps/rivendell-...
   (And if this proves to be a worthwhile resource, maybe it could be
   added to the RBW Owners Bunch resource page.)

   The basic idea is that Riv owners, dealers, and aficionados can place
   themselves on the map.  Hopefully it will serve as a good resource to
   connect us together in both the physical and virtual worlds.  Feel
   free to put as much as or little information as you deem appropriate
   into the Placemarker Description.

   At this point, the map is somewhat in beta testing, so if you have
   any problems with the map or instructions, please let me know.

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[RBW] Re: Photos From SFR 200K

2010-01-25 Thread Mike
Jim, thanks for posting the pictures, they're great. I take it the
excursion to Marshall was an out and back, or did you climb THE
WALL? Either way, that's a tough ride. Congrats to you and all the
other participants.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Rainy Day Rack Job Was: Rack on Rambouillet

2010-01-25 Thread johnb
I also have the Acorn Rambo front bag and a Mark's Mini Rack and the
combo works excellent!

On Jan 25, 7:36 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a Mark's Mini Rack and an Acorn bag on my Rambouillet.  Works
 great.
 Michael

 On Jan 24, 10:50 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:



  The Acorn bag needs a front rack, which the Ram doesn't have braze-ons
  for.

  Riv is coming out with a Sackville rando bag that mounts to the
  h'bars.  It's been briefly discussed here, but Id wait till the
  official word comes out, which should be soon,

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Jan 24, 1:43 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

   All this talk about Ram racking got me out in the garage, since it is 
   raining to beat the band here in central AL today. I put a V-O 
   constructeur rear rack on my Saluki, and am pretty happy with the result. 
   Too crummy to take it outside for pictures, but it looks nice with 
   Baggins  L'il Loafer in front, Baggins Keven bag under the seat and the 
   rack (which will hold bigger bags when needed, or stuff on its top.

   Installation was pretty straightforward. I used some faucet washers to 
   dampen any vibration on the screws passing through the fender.

   Tailwinds

   bruce

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[RBW] Re: 92.7 PBH - is a size 63 AHH frame right for me?

2010-01-25 Thread MKahrl
Don't give up considering the smaller size just yet.  It's pretty easy
to move the seat and quill stem up two centimeters on the smaller
frame but with the larger frame you will have the stem set as low as
it will go to keep even with the seat.  If you want the handlebars
lower it's a no-go.  With the smaller frame you have more flexibility.

If you do much urban or rough stuff riding sooner or later you will
come to a curb or log you want to lift the front wheel over and if the
top tube is up in your crotch than you're not going to be able to lift
that front wheel with your feet on the ground.  I have a slightly too
tall Falcon and this comes up more often than I would have thought.
I'm also slightly over 6' 1.5 and I went with a 61 AHH which have me
latitude to move the saddle and stem heights around to suit me.

Michael Kahrl

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Re: [RBW] Re: 92.7 PBH - is a size 63 AHH frame right for me?

2010-01-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 07:23 -0800, MKahrl wrote:

 If you do much urban or rough stuff riding sooner or later you will
 come to a curb or log you want to lift the front wheel over and if the
 top tube is up in your crotch than you're not going to be able to lift
 that front wheel with your feet on the ground.  I have a slightly too
 tall Falcon and this comes up more often than I would have thought.
 I'm also slightly over 6' 1.5 and I went with a 61 AHH which have me
 latitude to move the saddle and stem heights around to suit me.

Never mind lifting the front wheel over a curb, how about standing over
the frame both feet on the ground while you remove a jacket or switch
from your heavy gloves to your lighter ones?

There are those who will say you never ever have to stand over a frame
with both feet on the ground; I think that's bogus.  I shed a layer on
almost every cold weather ride, usually between the 5th and 10th mile.
One reason I love handlebar bags so much is that I can remove that layer
and put it in the bag without having to dismount and lay the bike on the
ground to do so.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures

2010-01-25 Thread Adam DeFayette
Rivendell stock - I believe Tange Levin - the unsealed one, which I
suppose is fine as this bike will never see a rainy day.

On Jan 25, 4:32 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
 Adam,

 Nice bike, what brand of headset did you go with?  Cant tell by the pix.

 Enjoy,

 Dave Nawrocki
 Fort Collins, CO



 - Original Message -
 From: Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:28:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures

 Sorry - that link was to a picture and not the album, 
 here:http://picasaweb.google.com/adam.defayette/RivendellRoadeo?feat=direc...

 The tires (Challenge Parigi-Roubaix) are sold as a 27 and look like a
 27 to me but I haven't measured.

 They feel great - the whole bike does. I had this fear throughout the
 assembly that the bike wouldn't fit - Rivendell had me going with a 57
 based on their measurement system, but I instead went with a 59
 (closer to what I am used to riding - I'm 6 '2 - and it seems
 perfect.

 Can't wait to to get this bike seriously out on the road in the
 Spring.

 On Jan 24, 8:23 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
  Looks really nice.  How do you like the tires?  What is the actual
  width on those once inflated?

  Rob

  On Jan 23, 3:11 pm, Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com wrote:

   Check it 
   out:http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7IDE6Lx7BsB_In1Rke29SQ?feat=dire...

   Just finished wheel-build and assembly.

   Standard Riv-parts, except for the stem and handlebars which I
   salvaged from a 1981 Raleigh SuperGrandPrix.

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[RBW] Rainy Ride to Mt Tam.

2010-01-25 Thread manueljohnacosta
Saturday was a free day for me. So I decided to ride up to Mt. Tam.
Weather people said the rain would stop but it didn't. From Golden
Gate Park I rode to Salsalito drenched. While looking for the road up
I get the wrong directions from a cop that took me 20 miles away from
my tam. into larkspur. After buying a map from a local gas station, I
finally back track and find my way back to the Pan toll Road. Weather
was looking good so I rode up the old stage road to the eastern peak.
Getting up to Mt. tam I run into snow, waterfalls and mud. I start
cramping up and stop a handful of times but determine to reach the top
after dealing with so much hassle. After finally getting to the top I
am greeted with fog and no spectacular view of the bay. Coming down
from the east peak I make the wrong turn again. By this time I spent
and I'm debating whether I should just call the girlfriend to pick me
up, knowing full well that she wouldn't because she doesn't want to
pay toll for the bridge. I luck out when I ask directions to a single
old lady in the middle of no where. She was apparently a park ranger
and was taking the bus back to marin city. She convinced me to take
the bus back to the city, so I do. But I miss my stop and end up
riding from downtown all the way back to sunset when my girlfriend
lives. When she opens the door I find myself laying on her carpeted
floor for a number of hours. Despite the weather, the lost directions
and seriously bonking, the trip was amazing adventure that I'm willing
to do again... in better weather.

Pictures document my failure here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623272622062/

-Manny  Should know where he's going in the first place Acosta

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[RBW] Quickbeam Camping Last Weekend

2010-01-25 Thread Robert F. Harrison
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-72157623283990308/This
past weekend I gave my Quickbeam its best workout yet. I was invited to a
friend's birthday party at the Malaekahana Campgrounds. There are two sites,
one is a regular park, the other has cabins and yurts and more facilities
for camping. My friends had taken a cabin for the week for family and had
invited friends for the big shindig on Saturday night.

Here's some info on the campground:

http://www.malaekahana.net

It's only about 57 miles from my home to the park though it seems like it
should be longer since it's pretty much halfway around the island. If I'd
gone only a couple of miles more I'd have been headed home. I probably added
a couple more miles on both days running errands before or after the main
ride so if anyone asks I'm going with 120 miles total even though it won't
show on the route map.

Here's the route at MapMyRide:

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/hi/honolulu/812126400898098591

I didn't ride with any particular goal in mind for time. I figured as long
as I got there by 4pm (when it was suggested we arrive) I'd be fine. As it
turns out, leaving at 9am got me there on time with plenty of time for
chewing the fat with some folks on the way, having a great lunch, and
basically taking my time to stop when and where I liked for photos.

I left town around 9am after packing up my bike. A partial list of what I
took includes:

Hennessy Hammock
Tiny pillow
Thin fleece sleeping bag (really a thin blanket with a zipper)
Car sun shield for underneath the sleeping bag - this works great, weighs
nothing
Some fresh socks and underwear
Towel
Swim trunks
Nikon FG SLR (circa 1982)
Film
Homemade Penny alcohol stove (http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.html)
Some instant oatmeal and coffee
Flipflop slippers for running around the camp site

All in all it didn't weigh much. I tied the hammock and slippers to the
front rack for a total of around 4lbs and the rest fit without bulging into
my Sackville Large SaddleSack. The first image in the slide show more or
less shows the quickbeam ready to go.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-72157623283990308/

The weather was good but the VOG was terrible. When we don't have tradewinds
we often have a lot of volcanic gas blown in from the Big Island. You can
see in the images just how hazy it was.

The first 15 miles from my home take me from the center of Honolulu out to
Hawaii Kai and involve little climbing except for a wee bit around Diamond
Head. I'd ridden my QB around Diamond Head before so I knew having only one
gear wasn't going to be a problem without gear, but with the gear I figured
it might be a little more difficult. I was in the standard 40x16
configuration and never felt the need to change to something else (I've got
a 16-19 White on one side and a 22 bailout on the other if I need it along
with the regular 40-32 chainwheel set).

In Hawaii Kai I stopped at a Starbucks and had a long morning coffee and
bought a banana for when I reached Makapuu as a treat for getting over the
next two hills.

Once past Hawaii Kai, and the climb around Koko Crater (near Hanama Bay), I
descended to Sandy Beach and started taking images. I'd chosen the Nikon FG
with a 28mm lens (I had a 50mm with me too but no zoom) and Fuji 100 Reala
print film as a fitting tool for the ride. I only took one digital image
(with my iPhone) and that was of lunch on my way out.

From Sandy Beach there's another climb up to the Makapuu lookout and I
managed to drop a tandem on the way up. I was going slow, but they were
going slower is how I'll describe it. I never even came out of the saddle on
the whole ride as I recall.

Once we descended to Makapuu Beach I hung out with the local Heavy Breathers
club. They ride out this far every weekend. Some go on to lunch in Kailua,
others head back.

They were almost all very impressed with the Quickbeam, the fenders with
mudflaps, the Brooks, the Saddleville SaddleSack, and the fact that I'd
dropped the tandem. I think this was the first time I'd passed anyone on a
hill ever, so I was impressed as well.

I was continually surprised at how lightly the QB climbed, even loaded, and
how steadily it descended. In fact the limiting factor on my descents was me
not the bike.

The only fellow who wasn't impressed was a young guy in technical clothes,
painful looking shoes, and bike that will probably be splinters in a year or
two. He said it was just an expensive copy of an old frame. He wasn't
having any of it. Everyone else drooled. I chatted with them for quite a
while, maybe 30 minutes. I also took a couple of shots of Rabbit Island
while there.

Then it was off for a ride through the back roads of Waimanalo. One can
follow the main road, but it's a lot nicer through the back route. Actually
I didn't go as far back as I could, opting for a pleasant route that is
closer to the main road.

Next it was up Keolu Hill where I took the shots 

Re: [RBW] Photos From SFR 200K

2010-01-25 Thread Ray Shine
You guys and gals are tough!  All of you took some great pix, and they sure 
bring back many memories.  It dates me a bit too much, but when I was a kid -- 
before Pt. Reyes became a National Seashore -- my great aunt and uncle lived on 
a holly orchard (yes, I said holly) on the mountain behind Inverness.  My great 
uncle was an avid fly fisherman, and built his own casting pond on the property 
that he regularly stocked with trout.  It was a great treat to motor up Highway 
1 from SF to visit them, then get to catch and release trout, swing on a huge 
cable swing, and throw rocks at deer (they ate on the holly trees!).  I also 
took several boy scout over-nighters out at Drake's Beach.  Great times!  Both 
my great aunt and uncle lie in the Olema Cemetery just off Highway 1.  I highly 
recommend this ride to all of you not from the Bay Area next time you are 
visiting.





From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net
To: rbw group rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:01:01 PM
Subject: [RBW] Photos From SFR 200K

Took the Quickbeam out on Saturday's 200K brevet put on by the San Francisco
Randonneurs.  Here are the lightly commented photos -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623151790881

Still working on the ride report.  I'll post the link when that gets
written.

Definitely saw some nice Rivendell iron out on the route - another
Quickbeam, a few Atlantii, and at least one Hilsen.  The weather was perfect
- just enough rain to make you glad you rigged fenders, but mostly sun and
easy breezes.

Enjoy!

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures

2010-01-25 Thread terryg
Hello everyone,
Brilliant bike, really nice build, congratulations!  I almost got
those same Challenge tires (and may still) but I'm so enamored with
the GB 'Cypres' tires on my 650B AHH that I got the 700Cx30 for my
Roadeo.  Are they as nice as the BQ reviews say they are?

Of course it's kinda lousy here in Chicago for riding the Roadeo (I'll
get over it, I'm being a wimp), so I haven't got any real significant
saddle time just yet.  Which is to say, no real world-worthy photos.

Your handlebar treatment wouldn't happen to be shellaced tan cork
tape, would it?  Mine is, and it looks a whole lot like yours!

Congrats again, and what a great color scheme.  Totally classy.

terryg


On Jan 25, 10:06 am, Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rivendell stock - I believe Tange Levin - the unsealed one, which I
 suppose is fine as this bike will never see a rainy day.

 On Jan 25, 4:32 am, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:



  Adam,

  Nice bike, what brand of headset did you go with?  Cant tell by the pix.

  Enjoy,

  Dave Nawrocki
  Fort Collins, CO

  - Original Message -
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  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:28:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures

  Sorry - that link was to a picture and not the album, 
  here:http://picasaweb.google.com/adam.defayette/RivendellRoadeo?feat=direc...

  The tires (Challenge Parigi-Roubaix) are sold as a 27 and look like a
  27 to me but I haven't measured.

  They feel great - the whole bike does. I had this fear throughout the
  assembly that the bike wouldn't fit - Rivendell had me going with a 57
  based on their measurement system, but I instead went with a 59
  (closer to what I am used to riding - I'm 6 '2 - and it seems
  perfect.

  Can't wait to to get this bike seriously out on the road in the
  Spring.

  On Jan 24, 8:23 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
   Looks really nice.  How do you like the tires?  What is the actual
   width on those once inflated?

   Rob

   On Jan 23, 3:11 pm, Adam DeFayette adam.defaye...@gmail.com wrote:

Check it 
out:http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7IDE6Lx7BsB_In1Rke29SQ?feat=dire...

Just finished wheel-build and assembly.

Standard Riv-parts, except for the stem and handlebars which I
salvaged from a 1981 Raleigh SuperGrandPrix.

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[RBW] Re: Rainy Ride to Mt Tam.

2010-01-25 Thread terryg
Seems like a perfectly successful ride to me!  You lived to tell the
tale, and you want to go back!

On Jan 25, 8:48 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Saturday was a free day for me. So I decided to ride up to Mt. Tam.
 Weather people said the rain would stop but it didn't. From Golden
 Gate Park I rode to Salsalito drenched. While looking for the road up
 I get the wrong directions from a cop that took me 20 miles away from
 my tam. into larkspur. After buying a map from a local gas station, I
 finally back track and find my way back to the Pan toll Road. Weather
 was looking good so I rode up the old stage road to the eastern peak.
 Getting up to Mt. tam I run into snow, waterfalls and mud. I start
 cramping up and stop a handful of times but determine to reach the top
 after dealing with so much hassle. After finally getting to the top I
 am greeted with fog and no spectacular view of the bay. Coming down
 from the east peak I make the wrong turn again. By this time I spent
 and I'm debating whether I should just call the girlfriend to pick me
 up, knowing full well that she wouldn't because she doesn't want to
 pay toll for the bridge. I luck out when I ask directions to a single
 old lady in the middle of no where. She was apparently a park ranger
 and was taking the bus back to marin city. She convinced me to take
 the bus back to the city, so I do. But I miss my stop and end up
 riding from downtown all the way back to sunset when my girlfriend
 lives. When she opens the door I find myself laying on her carpeted
 floor for a number of hours. Despite the weather, the lost directions
 and seriously bonking, the trip was amazing adventure that I'm willing
 to do again... in better weather.

 Pictures document my failure here.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623272622062/

 -Manny  Should know where he's going in the first place Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Camping Last Weekend

2010-01-25 Thread Gary
Excellent write up and pictures! Mahalo

On Jan 25, 6:49 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-7215762328399...This
 past weekend I gave my Quickbeam its best workout yet. I was invited to a
 friend's birthday party at the Malaekahana Campgrounds. There are two sites,
 one is a regular park, the other has cabins and yurts and more facilities
 for camping. My friends had taken a cabin for the week for family and had
 invited friends for the big shindig on Saturday night.

 Here's some info on the campground:

 http://www.malaekahana.net

 It's only about 57 miles from my home to the park though it seems like it
 should be longer since it's pretty much halfway around the island. If I'd
 gone only a couple of miles more I'd have been headed home. I probably added
 a couple more miles on both days running errands before or after the main
 ride so if anyone asks I'm going with 120 miles total even though it won't
 show on the route map.

 Here's the route at MapMyRide:

 http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/hi/honolulu/8121264008980...

 I didn't ride with any particular goal in mind for time. I figured as long
 as I got there by 4pm (when it was suggested we arrive) I'd be fine. As it
 turns out, leaving at 9am got me there on time with plenty of time for
 chewing the fat with some folks on the way, having a great lunch, and
 basically taking my time to stop when and where I liked for photos.

 I left town around 9am after packing up my bike. A partial list of what I
 took includes:

 Hennessy Hammock
 Tiny pillow
 Thin fleece sleeping bag (really a thin blanket with a zipper)
 Car sun shield for underneath the sleeping bag - this works great, weighs
 nothing
 Some fresh socks and underwear
 Towel
 Swim trunks
 Nikon FG SLR (circa 1982)
 Film
 Homemade Penny alcohol stove (http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.html)
 Some instant oatmeal and coffee
 Flipflop slippers for running around the camp site

 All in all it didn't weigh much. I tied the hammock and slippers to the
 front rack for a total of around 4lbs and the rest fit without bulging into
 my Sackville Large SaddleSack. The first image in the slide show more or
 less shows the quickbeam ready to go.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-7215762328399...

 The weather was good but the VOG was terrible. When we don't have tradewinds
 we often have a lot of volcanic gas blown in from the Big Island. You can
 see in the images just how hazy it was.

 The first 15 miles from my home take me from the center of Honolulu out to
 Hawaii Kai and involve little climbing except for a wee bit around Diamond
 Head. I'd ridden my QB around Diamond Head before so I knew having only one
 gear wasn't going to be a problem without gear, but with the gear I figured
 it might be a little more difficult. I was in the standard 40x16
 configuration and never felt the need to change to something else (I've got
 a 16-19 White on one side and a 22 bailout on the other if I need it along
 with the regular 40-32 chainwheel set).

 In Hawaii Kai I stopped at a Starbucks and had a long morning coffee and
 bought a banana for when I reached Makapuu as a treat for getting over the
 next two hills.

 Once past Hawaii Kai, and the climb around Koko Crater (near Hanama Bay), I
 descended to Sandy Beach and started taking images. I'd chosen the Nikon FG
 with a 28mm lens (I had a 50mm with me too but no zoom) and Fuji 100 Reala
 print film as a fitting tool for the ride. I only took one digital image
 (with my iPhone) and that was of lunch on my way out.

 From Sandy Beach there's another climb up to the Makapuu lookout and I
 managed to drop a tandem on the way up. I was going slow, but they were
 going slower is how I'll describe it. I never even came out of the saddle on
 the whole ride as I recall.

 Once we descended to Makapuu Beach I hung out with the local Heavy Breathers
 club. They ride out this far every weekend. Some go on to lunch in Kailua,
 others head back.

 They were almost all very impressed with the Quickbeam, the fenders with
 mudflaps, the Brooks, the Saddleville SaddleSack, and the fact that I'd
 dropped the tandem. I think this was the first time I'd passed anyone on a
 hill ever, so I was impressed as well.

 I was continually surprised at how lightly the QB climbed, even loaded, and
 how steadily it descended. In fact the limiting factor on my descents was me
 not the bike.

 The only fellow who wasn't impressed was a young guy in technical clothes,
 painful looking shoes, and bike that will probably be splinters in a year or
 two. He said it was just an expensive copy of an old frame. He wasn't
 having any of it. Everyone else drooled. I chatted with them for quite a
 while, maybe 30 minutes. I also took a couple of shots of Rabbit Island
 while there.

 Then it was off for a ride through the back roads of Waimanalo. One can
 follow the main road, but it's a lot nicer 

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Camping Last Weekend

2010-01-25 Thread cyclotourist
Looks like a lovely ride.  I've done it by car, wishing I was on a bike at
the time!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote:



 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-72157623283990308/This
 past weekend I gave my Quickbeam its best workout yet. I was invited to a
 friend's birthday party at the Malaekahana Campgrounds. There are two sites,
 one is a regular park, the other has cabins and yurts and more facilities
 for camping. My friends had taken a cabin for the week for family and had
 invited friends for the big shindig on Saturday night.

 Here's some info on the campground:

 http://www.malaekahana.net

 It's only about 57 miles from my home to the park though it seems like it
 should be longer since it's pretty much halfway around the island. If I'd
 gone only a couple of miles more I'd have been headed home. I probably added
 a couple more miles on both days running errands before or after the main
 ride so if anyone asks I'm going with 120 miles total even though it won't
 show on the route map.

 Here's the route at MapMyRide:

 http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/hi/honolulu/812126400898098591

 I didn't ride with any particular goal in mind for time. I figured as long
 as I got there by 4pm (when it was suggested we arrive) I'd be fine. As it
 turns out, leaving at 9am got me there on time with plenty of time for
 chewing the fat with some folks on the way, having a great lunch, and
 basically taking my time to stop when and where I liked for photos.

 I left town around 9am after packing up my bike. A partial list of what I
 took includes:

 Hennessy Hammock
 Tiny pillow
 Thin fleece sleeping bag (really a thin blanket with a zipper)
 Car sun shield for underneath the sleeping bag - this works great, weighs
 nothing
 Some fresh socks and underwear
 Towel
 Swim trunks
 Nikon FG SLR (circa 1982)
 Film
 Homemade Penny alcohol stove 
 (http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.htmlhttp://www.csun.edu/%7Emjurey/penny.html
 )
 Some instant oatmeal and coffee
 Flipflop slippers for running around the camp site

 All in all it didn't weigh much. I tied the hammock and slippers to the
 front rack for a total of around 4lbs and the rest fit without bulging into
 my Sackville Large SaddleSack. The first image in the slide show more or
 less shows the quickbeam ready to go.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-72157623283990308/

 The weather was good but the VOG was terrible. When we don't have
 tradewinds we often have a lot of volcanic gas blown in from the Big Island.
 You can see in the images just how hazy it was.

 The first 15 miles from my home take me from the center of Honolulu out to
 Hawaii Kai and involve little climbing except for a wee bit around Diamond
 Head. I'd ridden my QB around Diamond Head before so I knew having only one
 gear wasn't going to be a problem without gear, but with the gear I figured
 it might be a little more difficult. I was in the standard 40x16
 configuration and never felt the need to change to something else (I've got
 a 16-19 White on one side and a 22 bailout on the other if I need it along
 with the regular 40-32 chainwheel set).

 In Hawaii Kai I stopped at a Starbucks and had a long morning coffee and
 bought a banana for when I reached Makapuu as a treat for getting over the
 next two hills.

 Once past Hawaii Kai, and the climb around Koko Crater (near Hanama Bay), I
 descended to Sandy Beach and started taking images. I'd chosen the Nikon FG
 with a 28mm lens (I had a 50mm with me too but no zoom) and Fuji 100 Reala
 print film as a fitting tool for the ride. I only took one digital image
 (with my iPhone) and that was of lunch on my way out.

 From Sandy Beach there's another climb up to the Makapuu lookout and I
 managed to drop a tandem on the way up. I was going slow, but they were
 going slower is how I'll describe it. I never even came out of the saddle on
 the whole ride as I recall.

 Once we descended to Makapuu Beach I hung out with the local Heavy
 Breathers club. They ride out this far every weekend. Some go on to lunch in
 Kailua, others head back.

 They were almost all very impressed with the Quickbeam, the fenders with
 mudflaps, the Brooks, the Saddleville SaddleSack, and the fact that I'd
 dropped the tandem. I think this was the first time I'd passed anyone on a
 hill ever, so I was impressed as well.

 I was continually surprised at how lightly the QB climbed, even loaded, and
 how steadily it descended. In fact the limiting factor on my descents was me
 not the bike.

 The only fellow who wasn't impressed was a young guy in technical clothes,
 painful looking shoes, and bike that will probably be splinters in a year or
 two. He said it was just an expensive copy of an old frame. He wasn't
 having any of it. Everyone else drooled. I chatted with them for quite a
 while, maybe 30 minutes. I also took a couple of shots of Rabbit Island
 while there.

 Then 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rainy Ride to Mt Tam.

2010-01-25 Thread cyclotourist
An epic ride!!!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM, terryg teg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems like a perfectly successful ride to me!  You lived to tell the
 tale, and you want to go back!

 On Jan 25, 8:48 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  Saturday was a free day for me. So I decided to ride up to Mt. Tam.
  Weather people said the rain would stop but it didn't. From Golden
  Gate Park I rode to Salsalito drenched. While looking for the road up
  I get the wrong directions from a cop that took me 20 miles away from
  my tam. into larkspur. After buying a map from a local gas station, I
  finally back track and find my way back to the Pan toll Road. Weather
  was looking good so I rode up the old stage road to the eastern peak.
  Getting up to Mt. tam I run into snow, waterfalls and mud. I start
  cramping up and stop a handful of times but determine to reach the top
  after dealing with so much hassle. After finally getting to the top I
  am greeted with fog and no spectacular view of the bay. Coming down
  from the east peak I make the wrong turn again. By this time I spent
  and I'm debating whether I should just call the girlfriend to pick me
  up, knowing full well that she wouldn't because she doesn't want to
  pay toll for the bridge. I luck out when I ask directions to a single
  old lady in the middle of no where. She was apparently a park ranger
  and was taking the bus back to marin city. She convinced me to take
  the bus back to the city, so I do. But I miss my stop and end up
  riding from downtown all the way back to sunset when my girlfriend
  lives. When she opens the door I find myself laying on her carpeted
  floor for a number of hours. Despite the weather, the lost directions
  and seriously bonking, the trip was amazing adventure that I'm willing
  to do again... in better weather.
 
  Pictures document my failure here.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623272622062/
 
  -Manny  Should know where he's going in the first place Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Pre-Rivendell Ride Pics

2010-01-25 Thread james black
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 18:01, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just got around to uploading a series of shots from one of my
 favorite rides in the Topanga/Santa Monica Mtns. area. The ride
 culminates in a great climb up Stunt Road.

Looks like great ride!

I'm planning to make a few changes to my Centurion road bike to make
it more hill-and-dirt friendly, and then I'll finally have a bike with
derailleurs that I can take up into the mountains for these kinds of
rides.

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Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread Grant Petersen
brustow says:
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
Is Grant directly
poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?

Grant (that's me) says:
Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
anyway.

Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic. But
Hunqapillar sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely to
blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
mammoth, too.

Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil, Roadeo,
Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
See? Fits right in!

G

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[RBW] Re: Rainy Ride to Mt Tam.

2010-01-25 Thread RoadieRyan
Forget the failurepart  you had it right with amazing adventure
from your pictures it looks like an awesome ride.

What was the line from Sierra Madre?   Maps? we don't need no
stinkin' maps!

Keep on Riding that beautiful Bleriot and smiling.  Country bike
Indeed.

RR

On Jan 25, 8:44 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 An epic ride!!!





 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM, terryg teg...@gmail.com wrote:
  Seems like a perfectly successful ride to me!  You lived to tell the
  tale, and you want to go back!

  On Jan 25, 8:48 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
   Saturday was a free day for me. So I decided to ride up to Mt. Tam.
   Weather people said the rain would stop but it didn't. From Golden
   Gate Park I rode to Salsalito drenched. While looking for the road up
   I get the wrong directions from a cop that took me 20 miles away from
   my tam. into larkspur. After buying a map from a local gas station, I
   finally back track and find my way back to the Pan toll Road. Weather
   was looking good so I rode up the old stage road to the eastern peak.
   Getting up to Mt. tam I run into snow, waterfalls and mud. I start
   cramping up and stop a handful of times but determine to reach the top
   after dealing with so much hassle. After finally getting to the top I
   am greeted with fog and no spectacular view of the bay. Coming down
   from the east peak I make the wrong turn again. By this time I spent
   and I'm debating whether I should just call the girlfriend to pick me
   up, knowing full well that she wouldn't because she doesn't want to
   pay toll for the bridge. I luck out when I ask directions to a single
   old lady in the middle of no where. She was apparently a park ranger
   and was taking the bus back to marin city. She convinced me to take
   the bus back to the city, so I do. But I miss my stop and end up
   riding from downtown all the way back to sunset when my girlfriend
   lives. When she opens the door I find myself laying on her carpeted
   floor for a number of hours. Despite the weather, the lost directions
   and seriously bonking, the trip was amazing adventure that I'm willing
   to do again... in better weather.

   Pictures document my failure here.

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623272622062/

   -Manny  Should know where he's going in the first place Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread cyclotourist
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote:

 brustow says:
 Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
 Is Grant directly
 poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?

 Grant (that's me) says:
 Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
 anyway.

 Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic. But
 Hunqapillar sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely to
 blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
 mammoth, too.

 Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil, Roadeo,
 Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
 See? Fits right in!

 G


Bleriot, Quickbeam, Legolas, Simpleone (pending).


/fanboy mode

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread Big Paulie
My favorite name of the bunch is Rambouillet. My least fav, the
Hunqapillar.

However...

Once, during the height of the Iraq-War/anti-French sentiment, I was
accosted on my Rambouillet in the restroom area of a campground. An
intoxicated man with an iron horse shoe in his hand was furious that I
was ridin' a Frenchy bike. I would have given anything to be on a
Hunqapillar at that moment!


:)

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Camping Last Weekend

2010-01-25 Thread RoadieRyan
So let me get this straight,  while much of the lower 48 are getting
pounded by wind rain and or snow, you are cycling in a tropical
paradise doing an S240 with swim trunks as part of your kit?   And
riding a gorgeous Quickbeam to boot!

You, Robert are a lucky son of a gun, in the sun no less.

Seriously looks like a lot of fun, I have been dreaming up S240 routes
for spring time and this just makes me want to go all the more
although I will be packing wool not swim trunks ;-)

Oh and if you see Mr. Carbon attitude (note not all lycra carbon
riders are sourpusses) you can point out he is riding an expensive
copy of a Pro Tour bike and based on the cost/years of useful life
your QB will cost you a pittance in comparison.

Or simply  does Lance know you're stealing his wardrobe?

On Jan 25, 8:40 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like a lovely ride.  I've done it by car, wishing I was on a bike at
 the time!

 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Robert F. Harrison 
 rfharri...@gmail.comwrote:







  http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-7215762328399...This
  past weekend I gave my Quickbeam its best workout yet. I was invited to a
  friend's birthday party at the Malaekahana Campgrounds. There are two sites,
  one is a regular park, the other has cabins and yurts and more facilities
  for camping. My friends had taken a cabin for the week for family and had
  invited friends for the big shindig on Saturday night.

  Here's some info on the campground:

 http://www.malaekahana.net

  It's only about 57 miles from my home to the park though it seems like it
  should be longer since it's pretty much halfway around the island. If I'd
  gone only a couple of miles more I'd have been headed home. I probably added
  a couple more miles on both days running errands before or after the main
  ride so if anyone asks I'm going with 120 miles total even though it won't
  show on the route map.

  Here's the route at MapMyRide:

 http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/hi/honolulu/8121264008980...

  I didn't ride with any particular goal in mind for time. I figured as long
  as I got there by 4pm (when it was suggested we arrive) I'd be fine. As it
  turns out, leaving at 9am got me there on time with plenty of time for
  chewing the fat with some folks on the way, having a great lunch, and
  basically taking my time to stop when and where I liked for photos.

  I left town around 9am after packing up my bike. A partial list of what I
  took includes:

  Hennessy Hammock
  Tiny pillow
  Thin fleece sleeping bag (really a thin blanket with a zipper)
  Car sun shield for underneath the sleeping bag - this works great, weighs
  nothing
  Some fresh socks and underwear
  Towel
  Swim trunks
  Nikon FG SLR (circa 1982)
  Film
  Homemade Penny alcohol stove 
  (http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.htmlhttp://www.csun.edu/%7Emjurey/penny.html
  )
  Some instant oatmeal and coffee
  Flipflop slippers for running around the camp site

  All in all it didn't weigh much. I tied the hammock and slippers to the
  front rack for a total of around 4lbs and the rest fit without bulging into
  my Sackville Large SaddleSack. The first image in the slide show more or
  less shows the quickbeam ready to go.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304187669/in/set-7215762328399...

  The weather was good but the VOG was terrible. When we don't have
  tradewinds we often have a lot of volcanic gas blown in from the Big Island.
  You can see in the images just how hazy it was.

  The first 15 miles from my home take me from the center of Honolulu out to
  Hawaii Kai and involve little climbing except for a wee bit around Diamond
  Head. I'd ridden my QB around Diamond Head before so I knew having only one
  gear wasn't going to be a problem without gear, but with the gear I figured
  it might be a little more difficult. I was in the standard 40x16
  configuration and never felt the need to change to something else (I've got
  a 16-19 White on one side and a 22 bailout on the other if I need it along
  with the regular 40-32 chainwheel set).

  In Hawaii Kai I stopped at a Starbucks and had a long morning coffee and
  bought a banana for when I reached Makapuu as a treat for getting over the
  next two hills.

  Once past Hawaii Kai, and the climb around Koko Crater (near Hanama Bay), I
  descended to Sandy Beach and started taking images. I'd chosen the Nikon FG
  with a 28mm lens (I had a 50mm with me too but no zoom) and Fuji 100 Reala
  print film as a fitting tool for the ride. I only took one digital image
  (with my iPhone) and that was of lunch on my way out.

  From Sandy Beach there's another climb up to the Makapuu lookout and I
  managed to drop a tandem on the way up. I was going slow, but they were
  going slower is how I'll describe it. I never even came out of the saddle on
  the whole ride as I recall.

  Once we descended to Makapuu Beach I hung out with the local Heavy
  Breathers 

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread cyclotourist
Damn lucky you didn't ride in on your Bleriot!

Freedom Fries for everyone!  Freedom Kisses for some and Freedom Ticklers
for the very few.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My favorite name of the bunch is Rambouillet. My least fav, the
 Hunqapillar.

 However...

 Once, during the height of the Iraq-War/anti-French sentiment, I was
 accosted on my Rambouillet in the restroom area of a campground. An
 intoxicated man with an iron horse shoe in his hand was furious that I
 was ridin' a Frenchy bike. I would have given anything to be on a
 Hunqapillar at that moment!


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[RBW] Re: Rainy Ride to Mt Tam.

2010-01-25 Thread Philip Williamson
Fantastic!!
I love the Mt Tam ride reports, and this is way more my style than
cleaning the whole thing and then going for a run after.

 Philip

On Jan 25, 6:48 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Saturday was a free day for me. So I decided to ride up to Mt. Tam.
 Weather people said the rain would stop but it didn't. From Golden
 Gate Park I rode to Salsalito drenched. While looking for the road up
 I get the wrong directions from a cop that took me 20 miles away from
 my tam. into larkspur. After buying a map from a local gas station, I
 finally back track and find my way back to the Pan toll Road. Weather
 was looking good so I rode up the old stage road to the eastern peak.
 Getting up to Mt. tam I run into snow, waterfalls and mud. I start
 cramping up and stop a handful of times but determine to reach the top
 after dealing with so much hassle. After finally getting to the top I
 am greeted with fog and no spectacular view of the bay. Coming down
 from the east peak I make the wrong turn again. By this time I spent
 and I'm debating whether I should just call the girlfriend to pick me
 up, knowing full well that she wouldn't because she doesn't want to
 pay toll for the bridge. I luck out when I ask directions to a single
 old lady in the middle of no where. She was apparently a park ranger
 and was taking the bus back to marin city. She convinced me to take
 the bus back to the city, so I do. But I miss my stop and end up
 riding from downtown all the way back to sunset when my girlfriend
 lives. When she opens the door I find myself laying on her carpeted
 floor for a number of hours. Despite the weather, the lost directions
 and seriously bonking, the trip was amazing adventure that I'm willing
 to do again... in better weather.

 Pictures document my failure here.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623272622062/

 -Manny  Should know where he's going in the first place Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread charlie
What about calling it the Camper, or SO24 or whatever abbreviation
describes those weekend camp outs. Actually Hunqapillar is fine with
me. If its controversial now imagine what non Riv aficionados with say
about it when they see it.
I'm looking forward to the Simple one frame set, is that still a
reality for spring ? I'm holding outfor now.


On Jan 25, 9:22 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote:
 brustow says:
 Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
 Is Grant directly
 poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?

 Grant (that's me) says:
 Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
 anyway.

 Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic. But
 Hunqapillar sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely to
 blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
 mammoth, too.

 Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil, Roadeo,
 Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
 See? Fits right in!

 G

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread Ken Mattina
Is it spring yet?




On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:35 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

 What about calling it the Camper, or SO24 or whatever abbreviation
 describes those weekend camp outs. Actually Hunqapillar is fine with
 me. If its controversial now imagine what non Riv aficionados with say
 about it when they see it.
 I'm looking forward to the Simple one frame set, is that still a
 reality for spring ? I'm holding outfor now.


 On Jan 25, 9:22 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote:
   brustow says:
  Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name
  Is Grant directly
  poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned?
 
  Grant (that's me) says:
  Nope, there's no deepness to the name, and that wouldn't be a direct,
  anyway.
 
  Not digging the name---I get that. It's not suave or clever or classic.
 But
  Hunqapillar sounds friendly and distinctive to me, and it's not likely
 to
  blend in with other bike brand names. It seems perfect for the wooly
  mammoth, too.
 
  Atlantis, Rambouillet, Romulus, Saluki, A. Homer Hilsen, Bombadil,
 Roadeo,
  Glorius, Wilbury, Betty Foy, Yves Gomez, Sam Hillborne, and HUNQAPILLAR.
  See? Fits right in!
 
  G

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar da name

2010-01-25 Thread Big Paulie
In truth, I thought Roadeo was pretty weak...until I saw the bike/
paint/decals in person. Then it seemed virtually perfect. So, I'm
withholding any kind of judgement on the Hunqapillar moniker until
such time as I actually see one. :)

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