Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and i didn't have any that I can remember. Kevin Formerly from San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st
We saw a lot of cat prints... none mountain lion-esque, but plenty of bobcat prints. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That's big cat country. Looks like an epic for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Freewheel Skipping
To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Thanks! Angus P.S. As a point of trivial interest, with all other brands of freewheels I have used I wear down the gear teeth first -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Freewheel Skipping
Are the cogs clean? I found that build up of chain grime can contribute to unwanted chain jump from gear to gear. From: Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Thanks! Angus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
My solution was to immerse the freewheel in some kind of cleaning solvent, agitate to float any dirt or impurities away, dry the freewheel out and wipe it down, then lube the pawls with Phil Wood oil. Lubing is done by dripping the oil into the gap between the outermost cog and the freewheel body. Here's how to lube the freewheel while it's on the bike, as preventive maintenance: http://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html#lube On Feb 1, 3:51 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Thanks! Angus P.S. As a point of trivial interest, with all other brands of freewheels I have used I wear down the gear teeth first -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) I've never encountered it, but am now considering either a 58cm or 61cm Atlantis with big tires and sizeable (Woody's compound curve wooden) fenders. Also, size 11 feet. But I will always ride it unclipped -- no problem w/ TCO (or even with FO (foot overlap))? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.commailto:pollencloth...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and i didn't have any that I can remember. Kevin Formerly from San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A start
Congrats on the Rambouillet! What a great design. My new-to-me orange Ram is fast becoming my favorite bike. Post some pictures of yours when it's done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st
Wow, guys. That's a great photo-narrative of your adventure. I love the ones of Andy hopping over the fence, road closed, and the trailblazing. Just epic. I wish I was there! Rode with a couple of bobcats on Kitchen Creek on Mt. Laguna on Saturday while pre-riding the 80 for Haiti and then some. Dustin and Jacek made it to the top of Mt. Laguna: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4322516994/ So much for So-Cal stereotypes! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 1:44 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: We saw a lot of cat prints... none mountain lion-esque, but plenty of bobcat prints. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That's big cat country. Looks like an epic for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Angus wrote: To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Well, being a cheap b*d I try riding in different gear combinations to avoid the worn cog as long as I can, but really your freewheel should be replaced now if you can't find replacement cogs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
Angus, If the FW body itself skips from not engaging.. from my experience it's from grease inside becoming gunked up inside causing the pawls to miss engaging. I've had this happen with multiple Sachs FW's because of the grease they use from the factory. Suntour FW's always came oiled, but depending on age and maintenance, these can get gummed up too. As Mark Stated .. you can soak it a solvent, or flush it well with WD-40 which is a good solvent on it's own. Let it dry overnite or with compressed air and lube with PW oil or any Standard SAE 30 weight motor oil(much thicker than auto motor oil). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st
Here's a few more pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/sets/72157623327572068/ What a day!! -Andy On Feb 1, 6:54 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, guys. That's a great photo-narrative of your adventure. I love the ones of Andy hopping over the fence, road closed, and the trailblazing. Just epic. I wish I was there! Rode with a couple of bobcats on Kitchen Creek on Mt. Laguna on Saturday while pre-riding the 80 for Haiti and then some. Dustin and Jacek made it to the top of Mt. Laguna: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4322516994/ So much for So-Cal stereotypes! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 1:44 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: We saw a lot of cat prints... none mountain lion-esque, but plenty of bobcat prints. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That's big cat country. Looks like an epic for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe *clip *overlap.) I've never encountered it, but am now considering either a 58cm or 61cm Atlantis with big tires and sizeable (Woody's compound curve wooden) fenders. Also, size 11 feet. But I will always ride it unclipped -- no problem w/ TCO (or even with FO (foot overlap))? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *cyclotourist *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and i didn't have any that I can remember. Kevin Formerly from San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.commailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) I've never encountered it, but am now considering either a 58cm or 61cm Atlantis with big tires and sizeable (Woody's compound curve wooden) fenders. Also, size 11 feet. But I will always ride it unclipped -- no problem w/ TCO (or even with FO (foot overlap))? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.commailto:pollencloth...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and i didn't have any that I can remember. Kevin Formerly from San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? It depends on a number of things: 1. how much of your toe is over the front of the pedal 2. how sticky the toe of your shoes are to the fender 3. how slow you're going 4. how stiff your fender stays are. I've had TCO cause the fender to touch the front wheel which causes the bike to STOP and causes me to fall over all of this on platform pedals. Though, to be fair - it only really happens when I'm at a standing start since it is hard to move your foot around too easily when you're standing. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
SPD pedals, so I'm clipped in and if it crosses, could be less than a pleasant experience. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *cyclotourist *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 11:01 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? Yeah, that name is a bit of an anachronism. Well, maybe not on this list... :-) I think I shall dub it Big Toe Overlap from this point forward! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe *clip *overlap.) I've never encountered it, but am now considering either a 58cm or 61cm Atlantis with big tires and sizeable (Woody's compound curve wooden) fenders. Also, size 11 feet. But I will always ride it unclipped -- no problem w/ TCO (or even with FO (foot overlap))? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *cyclotourist *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 4:43 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? And the plot thickens... Thanks! On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.comwrote: I have a 58cm Atlantas and I ride 50mm Big Apples and fenders on it. I have about 3/4 of an inch of TCO. But its mostly from the fenders I think. I rode it with the fenders off and i didn't have any that I can remember. Kevin Formerly from San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
I'll agree with Mark that you can probably stop the skipping and extend the life of of the freewheel with some solvent, followed by some lubrication. I've done this with both freewheels and freehubs with varying degrees of success. Seriously though...If this freewheel has indeed provided reliable service for decades it is probably time to replace it. Pawls, bushings, bearings and races do wear out. Cogs do too, although the wear may not be readily apparent... Chuck On Feb 1, 4:51 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: To set the stage, I'm happily stuck in a 7 speed / freewheel world, understand how freewheels work, do all my own bicycle maintenance etc... I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Thanks! Angus P.S. As a point of trivial interest, with all other brands of freewheels I have used I wear down the gear teeth first -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cleaning a Winter Drivetrain
Hi Mark, You don't mention whether they salt in your area or not. I live in northern Michigan where they salt with a vengeance. I can't ride anything nice in the winter here because of the salt. Even when things clear up a bit, any puddles on the road are corrosive. Kiss bare aluminum good-bye, cosmetically. Tiny paint chips on a steel frame become rust spots in minutes. Its awfully disheartening. The only solution I have found is to ride a craigslist beater in the winter. Old non-suspension mountain bikes work best. (We call them DUI-cycles around here!) Clean them periodically at the quarter-wash and use a non-sticky lube on the chain. I look for a bike with fender eyelets, decent chainrings and cassettes and a smooth bottom-bracket, then give them a tune-up in the fall. Don't fall in love with them, because they're disposable! It amazes me sometimes how much of a licking those old 6 and 7 speed bikes will take and keep on ticking. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 80 For Haiti on February 13: Preview Slideshow
Dustin and I rode most of the route on Saturday (and then some), and I must say, this is CERTAINLY worth doing for all the right reasons - the ride is beautiful. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jan 31, 4:30 pm, Matt Critchlow matt.critch...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the slideshow Chris! Looking forward to the ride, it does look really fun. Thanks so much for putting this together. Cheers, Matt On Jan 31, 4:14 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Big thanks to Grant for taking the time give this Haiti benefit ride a plug here on the list. The rider roster is online at the link below. To the best of my knowledge, just on RBW lister has signed up so far, however we are accepting registration through the 9th. We rode the entire 80 For Haiti route on January 29, 2010 to finalize the details of the route sheet, checkpoint locations, and more for the February 13 event. The 81-mile route has 6090' of total elevation gain. There are only three stop signs and no lights and traffic is minimal to non-existent. I took a lot of photos of the spectacular, one-of-a-kind route along the way. Elizabeth rode her 2007 Ritchey BreakAway and wore Ibex wool knickers, Ibex wool Skimmer cap, Ibex Kilometer Gloves, Injinji wool socks, and Earth Wind and Rider wool jersey. Her saddle bag is a Nigel Smythe. I rode my 1985 custom Ron Stout and wore Ibex wool bib knickers, Ibex wool glove liners, Injinji wool socks, and a 1994 Castelli wool jersey (made for Bridgestone). It was very cold in Pine Valley, but warmed up nicely once we had climbed up out of the town / valley. For a less than six-minute video slideshow (with music) of the entire ride from start to finish (in 171 images), click here:http://www.adventurecorps.com/80/recon/movie.html For a traditional slideshow of the same images, click here:http://www.adventurecorps.com/80/recon/index.html For the roster, click here:http://www.adventurecorps.com/80/roster.html To read about our ride on the Rough Riders blog, click here:http://www.xo-1.org/ We hope you will join us for a great ride in support of a great cause! Yours in sport, Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA Rivendell rider since 1994 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - January 31st
Between that snow and our back-country pics, folks are going to think this was up in the Sierras! Interesting fact for those out of state: other than huge population near the coast and along some freeway corridors, SoCal is VERY wide open and wild. Can't say enough how insanely crazy this ride was, and how awesome it was to see that area! I mentioned to Andy that 99% of Californians don't know about this area, and less than that have actually been out on it. Very rewarding to get out there. I think the Feb 21st ride might be a touch less epic, but just as interesting to see parts of L.A. that folks don't get to! Check it out here if you haven't already: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157623162236373/ On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, guys. That's a great photo-narrative of your adventure. I love the ones of Andy hopping over the fence, road closed, and the trailblazing. Just epic. I wish I was there! Rode with a couple of bobcats on Kitchen Creek on Mt. Laguna on Saturday while pre-riding the 80 for Haiti and then some. Dustin and Jacek made it to the top of Mt. Laguna: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4322516994/ So much for So-Cal stereotypes! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 1:44 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: We saw a lot of cat prints... none mountain lion-esque, but plenty of bobcat prints. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That's big cat country. Looks like an epic for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm atlantis frameset
Our Green 56cm Hillborne Shop bike is for sale: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ It is a demo bike, which means customers swing their leg over and take it for a spin ... it has probably been ridden less than 10 total miles. We could sell it as a frame + fork, complete bike as pictures, or anything in between. Let me know if you are interested, Bryan On Jan 31, 8:54 pm, neurodrum neurod...@gmail.com wrote: oh - i should probably mention i'd be open to a used Sam (56cm) as well, though i doubt there are many out there. i think a Hunqapillar will become my first new Rivendell, but looking to build one up sooner, as a commuter/trainer. i might be interested in selling/trading a complete purple 1992 Bridgestone XO-1 too, towards my first Rivendell, if that is interesting to anyone with an extra Atlantis, Sam, etc., in the right size :) best, andrew On Jan 25, 11:34 pm, neurodrum neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi folks, looking for an Atlantis to replace a 55cm Bridgestone XO-1; figured this is a good place to ask about used frames, and wouldn't mind building my first Rivendell up myself, while awaiting Hunqapillar news. cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
I caught m toe on the Ramboiullet fender pretty hard a while back--kicked the SKS stays out of their eyelet quick release dealie. Startled me but no harm done. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Allingham II, Thomas J Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 11:22 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis? But seriously, if your toe is not attached to the pedal, it will just slip off if it bumps into the fender, correct? So no issue with TCO if not clipped in? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
FWIW, I found that adding (Velo Orange, 35 mm aluminum) fenders to my Motobecane actually helped with TCO, for, though they increased the TCO, obviously, they also provided a smooth, curved surface to deflect the offending toe clip (now, the offending toe, since I've switched back, fickle as I am, to SPDs). And FWIW again, the Motobecane is a fixed gear and I've had no real problems with TCO; experientia docet -- as they say. It's just one of the many fixed gears I've had with TCO. You get used to it. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I caught m toe on the Ramboiullet fender pretty hard a while back--kicked the SKS stays out of their eyelet quick release dealie. Startled me but no harm done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
on 2/1/10 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking that TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe that's why the problem is called toe clip overlap.) Just for reference sake, it's important to define the following: Clipped In means using some sort of cleated interface to secure your shoes and pedals - SPD, TIME, LOOK, etc... Clipless are the type of pedals that you clip into as above. It is an honorable semantic effort to shift this phrase to Clip in. Even the snowboarders use the phrase Click-in binding... Toe Clips are the cages that extend off the front of the pedal. Once upon a time, we nailed cleats to the bottom of our cycling shoes, so that the rear lip of the pedal cage secured the shoe. Then we tightened down the toe straps. Then we were clipped in. We were young and foolish. Slipping a pair of cycling or street shoes into a Toe Clip is using toe clips All-righty then... One of the quickest ways to get into trouble is to get your foot _inside_ of the front wheel when stopped or at low speeds. Really, that's about the only time it can happen, because you really shouldn't be turning the bars that much unless you are coming down Repack on a Klunker in about 1978 or thereabouts. The best way to compound the problem is to be riding a fixed gear, because, obviously, you can't backpedal and the momentum of the bicycle is driving your foot. The first time I did this (on my Dawes commuter, which has toe clips and fenders), I very luckily dropped my heel, which pointed my toe up, creating plenty of room for the wheel to swing back to center. Then, I seriously panicked and froze up. Luckily, the freezing took place after the fact, and as such did not end catastrophically. I'm a great believer in practicing for disaster, and have since played with this condition a bit to create some muscle memory for the future. Depending upon the tension in your legs, the position of your foot, you can definitely compound the problem if your reaction is to push down harder. It's really a weird feeling when it happens, and your instinctive reaction may not be correct. It's not a bad idea to play with the clearances, so you know beforehand what they are. Sitting stationary on the bike (with a spotter - some of the hardest falls I've had were at 0 mph...) in a doorframe or next to some support, set your foot forward and move the bars to create the problem. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TCO on an Atlantis?
If I am understanding your problem, just add knee savers..I put them om every bike I have ever had...why sell an Atlantis? http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pedalspacers.asp Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Freewheel Skipping
on 2/1/10 2:51 AM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Just to confirm, you are saying that the pawls are slipping internally, not that the chain is slipping on a given cog, right? It depends a bit how the thing is slipping. If there's a crunchy noise and the pedals jump just a bit, I'm likely to let it go for a while. The more pedal jump, the more dangerous, IMO. The freewheel is either going to freeze up or let go entirely. The former just means a little fixed gear work on the way home (though doing that with the slack chain in a derailleur setup can be tricky). The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. I guess the short answer is sooner rather than later... hope that helps, - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. Slightly OT. I recently came across a rather beautiful and incredibly light Campy 6 speed freewheel. I want to use it on a set of wheels I am building for my forthcoming 650b road bike. I recently decided not to go with a NOS fluted Campy SR crankset on the bike after reading too many accounts of the cranks breaking (I think you were on a recent discussion of same on the IBOB). Any one know whether the super light Campy freewheel is prone to pawls giving way? I suppose Campy may have used somesort of super aluminium alloy to come in so far under its competitor's weight. I would sure hate to be proven wrong with a trip to the Emergency Room. On Feb 1, 12:41 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 2/1/10 2:51 AM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was riding my Atlantis yesterday and during one hard effort (it's all relative) the freewheel skippedchunk! It's an old Suntour 7 speed freewheel that has probably given reliable service for decades. I had this happen to another Suntour freewheel several years ago and when it became too regular I replaced it. Which lead to the question... With a skipping freewheel, how long do you let it go before replacing the freewheel? Just to confirm, you are saying that the pawls are slipping internally, not that the chain is slipping on a given cog, right? It depends a bit how the thing is slipping. If there's a crunchy noise and the pedals jump just a bit, I'm likely to let it go for a while. The more pedal jump, the more dangerous, IMO. The freewheel is either going to freeze up or let go entirely. The former just means a little fixed gear work on the way home (though doing that with the slack chain in a derailleur setup can be tricky). The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. I guess the short answer is sooner rather than later... hope that helps, - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
You can't just leave off the smallest sprocket. You need a first position sprocket, i.e., a sprocket with a spacer built in; removing it and leaving the 2nd position sprocket hanging in the wind won't do it. The way you make a Century Special 13-30 is to start with a 12-27. Remove the 12 and the 13 tooth sprockets. Replace the 13 with a first position 13. Now add a 30T behind the 27. Install on a hub. You can get first position sprockets. You can order them on Sheldon's site if your LBS can't or won't do. On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:15 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
Okay, here's one option for an epic day in the hills. I have ridden all of this many times before but never all in one go. I'm going to try this in a couple of weeks, weather permitting. http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/los%20angeles/858126505202170833 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Gearing is the bane of knobbied 700c wheels as most aren't used to rock crawl. 29er's have been clamoring for better gearing for a while. I suspect others will follow ShimaNo's lead... except for us 8 speeders. Mike SoCal On Feb 1, 1:47 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You can't just leave off the smallest sprocket. You need a first position sprocket, i.e., a sprocket with a spacer built in; removing it and leaving the 2nd position sprocket hanging in the wind won't do it. The way you make a Century Special 13-30 is to start with a 12-27. Remove the 12 and the 13 tooth sprockets. Replace the 13 with a first position 13. Now add a 30T behind the 27. Install on a hub. You can get first position sprockets. You can order them on Sheldon's site if your LBS can't or won't do. On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:15 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:18 -0800, Michael_S wrote: Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Depends on the bolt circle. 24T is the smallest for a 74mm bolt circle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
24x34 is a really nice, really low low, even on a 700C dirt ride, but one of these days, I'll be putting on one of those new cassettes to get it to 24x36, especially on Atlantis. With this, I doubt I'll bother switching to the crank bolt circle that allows 22's. Actually, my MB-4 has a 110 BCD mountain crank with a thing from the 90's on it called an Avid Adapter that allows me to mount a 20 tooth granny. I should set up that with the new cassette, and have a 20x36 low on the 26 wheeled bike! (14.4 inch gear.) -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Sent: Feb 1, 2010 3:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:18 -0800, Michael_S wrote: Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Depends on the bolt circle. 24T is the smallest for a 74mm bolt circle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?
Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike names, wouldn't you think? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halfway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything through 10-speed. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike names, wouldn't you think? :) Depending on where you are on President Reagan's administration you might think the name isn't changing much at all. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
We did a ride like similar to this on a previous SoCal ride, but we cut through Topanga (or was it Temescal?) in order to avoid so much distance on PCH, which can be hairy with all the Mel Gibson-style daytime drunks. It would be great if we could figure out a way to tack on that kind of distance, but do so in a way that keeps PCH exposure to a minimum. Anyone have any ideas? On Feb 1, 2:48 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, here's one option for an epic day in the hills. I have ridden all of this many times before but never all in one go. I'm going to try this in a couple of weeks, weather permitting. http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/los%20angeles/858126505202170833 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Ahh-ha, I think that was the missing part of my plan. I'm going to need a first position 13T. And new spacers of course. I didn't see them while looking at Harris' offerings. Did you see a linkety-link for them? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: You can't just leave off the smallest sprocket. You need a first position sprocket, i.e., a sprocket with a spacer built in; removing it and leaving the 2nd position sprocket hanging in the wind won't do it. The way you make a Century Special 13-30 is to start with a 12-27. Remove the 12 and the 13 tooth sprockets. Replace the 13 with a first position 13. Now add a 30T behind the 27. Install on a hub. You can get first position sprockets. You can order them on Sheldon's site if your LBS can't or won't do. On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:15 -0700, rswat...@me.com wrote: David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Cool, pretty much exactly what I want to do, but I'm going to need new spacers as I'm not taking apart an eight (unless I can find one lying around). On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: David, I did just that recently. Took apart a 9s cassette and made an 8s out of it using spacers from an old 8s casssette. I used the lock ring and outermost 12t cog from the 8s cassette too since the outer cog on the 9 was 11t. It works just fine. Ryan On Feb 1, 2010, at 13:59, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: A combination of pushing my bike up hill yesterday and the new 12-36 cassette in the latest Reader has me thinking... Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? My current 8 speed cassette is a 12-32 XTR (on a spider), and I'd love to get a 34 or even 36 low. I would never need an 11T high, and very rarely use a 12T. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
I have a 24T front right now, down from the 26T stock. I could go w/ a 22 or even 20T as I have the small 56mm BCD available. Big jump from the 36T middle though. I drop the chain enough as it is, and worry it would be 100% with that combo... On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:48 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: 24x34 is a really nice, really low low, even on a 700C dirt ride, but one of these days, I'll be putting on one of those new cassettes to get it to 24x36, especially on Atlantis. With this, I doubt I'll bother switching to the crank bolt circle that allows 22's. Actually, my MB-4 has a 110 BCD mountain crank with a thing from the 90's on it called an Avid Adapter that allows me to mount a 20 tooth granny. I should set up that with the new cassette, and have a 20x36 low on the 26 wheeled bike! (14.4 inch gear.) -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Sent: Feb 1, 2010 3:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:18 -0800, Michael_S wrote: Harris Cyclery sells a custom blend 13-34 8 speed cassette for $60. another thought would be the small chainring ... are you running a 24 or 26? You can buy a 22T ring for most triples. Depends on the bolt circle. 24T is the smallest for a 74mm bolt circle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much time on PCH either. You could also hop onto the Topanga fireroad on the way down which adds quite a bit more trail and avoids even more of PCH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything through 10-speed. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mount Diablo Name Change?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike names, wouldn't you think? :) Depending on where you are on President Reagan's administration you might think the name isn't changing much at all. :) -sv No, that would be the Mt. Cheney. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
More trail = more happy times! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much time on PCH either. You could also hop onto the Topanga fireroad on the way down which adds quite a bit more trail and avoids even more of PCH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
I found 'em: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything through 10-speed. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
Would it behoove me to buy something like this to harvest the 13T out cog and the spacers? I could get it all for $20. That's the cost of the cog itself from Harris. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I found 'em: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything through 10-speed. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 9speed to 8 speed cassettes
*http://tinyurl.com/ycxh559* On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Would it behoove me to buy something like this to harvest the 13T out cog and the spacers? I could get it all for $20. That's the cost of the cog itself from Harris. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:26 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I found 'em: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#sprockets On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Ted, do you see a link anywhere for the outermost lock cogs spacers? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Can I put 8 speed spacers between the cogs of a nine speed cassette and simply leave off the smallest cog? I highly recommend Sheldon's oeuvre on the topic, http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html In particular, go to the table halway down, which lists the cog and spacer thicknesses for everything through 10-speed. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Warm Showers website
I might be the last person in the community to know about this but the website warmshowers.org is really worth checking out. When I was a member of the BMW Motorcycle Owners Association they published a book every year that listed people that could help you out on the road with bike trouble, put you up for the night, etc. This is a similar set-up for folks on bicycle tours. The numbers of members in distant countries is incredible. If you are planning a tour it's worth your while. Cheers. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm atlantis frameset
hi Bryan, thanks - this is almost exactly what i'm looking for.. and i'd probably just want the frameset.. but i'm hoping for a Sam in orange if i settle for a Sam instead of an Atlantis. of course, i may change my mind if i don't get a new/used Atlantis in process in the next week or two, so i'll contact you if that happens, and see if you still have it. :) best, andrew On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles wrote: Our Green 56cm Hillborne Shop bike is for sale: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ It is a demo bike, which means customers swing their leg over and take it for a spin ... it has probably been ridden less than 10 total miles. We could sell it as a frame + fork, complete bike as pictures, or anything in between. Let me know if you are interested, Bryan On Jan 31, 8:54 pm, neurodrum neurod...@gmail.com wrote: oh - i should probably mention i'd be open to a used Sam (56cm) as well, though i doubt there are many out there. i think a Hunqapillar will become my first new Rivendell, but looking to build one up sooner, as a commuter/trainer. i might be interested in selling/trading a complete purple 1992 Bridgestone XO-1 too, towards my first Rivendell, if that is interesting to anyone with an extra Atlantis, Sam, etc., in the right size :) best, andrew On Jan 25, 11:34 pm, neurodrum neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi folks, looking for an Atlantis to replace a 55cm Bridgestone XO-1; figured this is a good place to ask about used frames, and wouldn't mind building my first Rivendell up myself, while awaiting Hunqapillar news. cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
More trail = more happy times! Around 60mm works nicely for most Riv folks. Really looks like a nice route. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 6:06 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: More trail = more happy times! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much time on PCH either. You could also hop onto the Topanga fireroad on the way down which adds quite a bit more trail and avoids even more of PCH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
After yesterday, I'm thinking low trails are better than high trails. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: More trail = more happy times! Around 60mm works nicely for most Riv folks. Really looks like a nice route. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 1, 6:06 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: More trail = more happy times! On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: It would likely have been Topanga. I have done that variation as well. The ride down Rambla Pacifica and Las Flores from the top of Stunt is fantastic though. I don't like to spend too much time on PCH either. You could also hop onto the Topanga fireroad on the way down which adds quite a bit more trail and avoids even more of PCH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Freewheel Skipping
on 2/1/10 12:50 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: The latter usually means body onto frame in one manner or the other. Slightly OT. I recently came across a rather beautiful and incredibly light Campy 6 speed freewheel. I want to use it on a set of wheels I am building for my forthcoming 650b road bike. I recently decided not to go with a NOS fluted Campy SR crankset on the bike after reading too many accounts of the cranks breaking (I think you were on a recent discussion of same on the IBOB). Any one know whether the super light Campy freewheel is prone to pawls giving way? I suppose Campy may have used somesort of super aluminium alloy to come in so far under its competitor's weight. I would sure hate to be proven wrong with a trip to the Emergency Room. No data points on that one. Might be worth posting this to the CR or iBob lists. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB: 58cm Quickbeam
Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell. I would expect to get a nice price for this bike. If you want a bargain we don't need to pursue it but if you are looking for a great bike and one of the original (green) Quickbeams, take a look at some photos and get back to me. http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#328419943_pgpRk-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#328422074_C4oh7-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324484080_AsfYa-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324482816_YmFJK-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324485201_jz3Yf-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324486124_3H6iq-X3-LB http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35904402/original http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914935 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914946 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914930 Thanks for looking. -jb On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Fausto cbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a 58cm Quickbeam. Complete, or frame only. No preference on color. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB: 58cm Quickbeam
Very sorry. That was not intended for the list. John On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell. I would expect to get a nice price for this bike. If you want a bargain we don't need to pursue it but if you are looking for a great bike and one of the original (green) Quickbeams, take a look at some photos and get back to me. http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#328419943_pgpRk-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#328422074_C4oh7-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324484080_AsfYa-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324482816_YmFJK-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324485201_jz3Yf-X3-LB http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#324486124_3H6iq-X3-LB http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35904402/original http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914935 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914946 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914930 Thanks for looking. -jb On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Fausto cbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a 58cm Quickbeam. Complete, or frame only. No preference on color. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Quickbeam
Pretty pictures! Ryan On Feb 1, 9:57 pm, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Very sorry. That was not intended for the list. John On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:56 PM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fausto, I have a 58 Quickbeam that I am willing to sell. I would expect to get a nice price for this bike. If you want a bargain we don't need to pursue it but if you are looking for a great bike and one of the original (green) Quickbeams, take a look at some photos and get back to me. http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_a... http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35904402/original http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914935 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914946 http://www.pbase.com/jblish/image/35914930 Thanks for looking. -jb On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Fausto cbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a 58cm Quickbeam. Complete, or frame only. No preference on color. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] TCO in general..
Seems to be a problem because it has a name/acronym. All it means is that at speeds less than about 6mph, if you turn the wheel enough and time it just wrong with your pedal stroke, your shoe hits the fender or tire. It's one of those things that sounds worse than it is. It cannot happen at faster speeds, because you don't turn the wheel that much except if you're doing a near or full U-turn. When you go around a hairpin at 17 mph, you turn the front wheel maybe 1.5-degees. It is ONLY at SUPER slow speeds and super sharp turns that you can make contact. I want to say this, because it even being a topic of discussion suggests that there's something wrong. At the risk of being gross or something, it's sort of like, I have mucus coming out of my face--what can I do? What's wrong with me? And the answer is blow your nose. But TCO (a term I've used a hundred times, by the way) is mucus coming out of face in a different context. In a bike like the Atlantis, or any fatty tire bike, the designer, at some point, comes to a fork in the road. He can design for NO TCO and compromise the elements of design that affect position and fit and ride; or he can design for P, F, and R and accept some TCO. Or, just go to a smaller wheel. But even that involves some value judgements. A 58cm Atlantis with a 26--inch wheel would have a monster-long head tube that would look funny and make the bike less suitable to load carrying than the 700C wheel version (with a longer fork and hence shorter head tube). As it is, the 58 is a really well triangulated frame, and the bike rides like a demon (my opinion, but I am biased). TCO ends up being a problem---in my opinion---only in theoretics, but not in practice. THere are some builders who would disagree; and although in the spirit of diplomacy and reasonableness and agreeing to disagree and all that, I accept thatI can't understand it. To fear TCO or to regard it as Dangerouswell, it's ust something that to me doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying anybody here fears it. I haven't read all the posts and prolly won't...I just clicked on this thread for the heck of it, read something, and now.ahhhshouldn't have said anything! Will regret it in the morning. Going to bed. Goodnight, Moon. Best, G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
