[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Princess Bride quotes yes! If you walk up to my six year old daughter and say: No more rhymes, I mean it! She'll reply: Anybody want a peanut? Perhaps the next Riv should be the R.O.U.S. Grant's never done an acronym Riv, has he? On May 5, 9:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree. Most of these name choices leave me cold (I read such threads only to work myself up into a lather of righteous annoyance, but never mind) but for Inigo Montoya, I'd have to buy one, too, or at least get the decals to slap on my other Rivs. Patrick My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. Moore who recently watched the movie again after 22 years. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: I think I would be compelled to buy just about any frame Riv made if it were called Inigo Montoya. Even if it had a silly double top tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv frames work great with drop bars
on 5/5/10 7:08 PM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You can disparage that as following impractical race standards all you want, but the fact of the matter is that lower bar height works better for me. Not disparaging anything. However, if you read through GP's Readers he goes to great detail that he designed bikes for what he felt was a more comfortable upright riding. I guess one can put race slicks on a Chevy Malibu if that is ones preferred tire, but wouldn't it make more sense to buy a Porsche? I'm not sure if that's as appropriate an example. For myself, I've raised my bars as I've switched to Rivendell bikes, but neither of them are above the saddle at this point. I think that puts me as a bit of an outlier. ;^) For a goodly number of folks who wanted to ride a road bike in years past, they were told that they'd get used to the bars being low. That running the bars below the saddle was the way it was. Maybe 20 years ago, running the saddle and bars at the same height was not common on a road bike. It is one of the reasons that mountain bikes caught on - suddenly people could use a comfortable position to ride. It took a darned long time for that to ease into the popular acceptance on road bikes. I will say flat out that the Rivendell bikes I have (QB and Hilsen) handle better than any other road (or cross) bike I've owned. There's no drawback to dropping the bars, if that is what you are used to or comfortable doing. The Rivendell designs allow a pretty amazing range of positions. Maybe that's the difference - it strikes me that GP designs a bike that allows for comfortable upright position - whether that's nearly upright, 45 degrees or flat backed. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv frames work great with drop bars
But again, it's just silly to think that Rivendells don't work well with drop bars and even lowish drop bars, just as it is silly to imply that lowish bars are only for racing. Perhaps before calling me silly, you may have had the sense to look at the original post and figure out my point. The OP says he cannot get bars low enough on a Riv. You say Riv can accommodate many bar positions, including lower positions. Given this fact we both appear to agree upon, I quite sensibly assumed the OP wants his bars somewhere down in the vicinity one sees on track bikes. A position which I think people can sensibly agree is meant for racing and for which Rivendell bikes are not designed. What did we jump back to February and I missed it? On May 5, 11:14 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:08 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: You can disparage that as following impractical race standards all you want, but the fact of the matter is that lower bar height works better for me. Not disparaging anything. However, if you read through GP's Readers he goes to great detail that he designed bikes for what he felt was a more comfortable upright riding. I guess one can put race slicks on a Chevy Malibu if that is ones preferred tire, but wouldn't it make more sense to buy a Porsche? But again, it's just silly to think that Rivendells don't work well with drop bars and even lowish drop bars, just as it is silly to imply that lowish bars are only for racing. Low bars work fine with Rivs, at least the four I've owned do. What do low bars (by Grant's massively high standards) have to do with racing? Nothing, as far as I can tell; some people like bars even with or lower than the saddle because it feels more comfortable; end of story. Of course, there is low and low. I wouldn't buy a Riv with sloping tt and extended ht in order to lower my bars six inches below saddle, but a modest 2 is perfectly fine and in no way racing. And I have short arms for my height, so low bars aren't simply a means of accommodating a weird build. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell and drop bars and reach
Do feel that my Sam Hillborne works well with drop bars. However, the riding position is eversoslightly longer than I'd call absolute perfect. But my own setup for bar reach is based on this type of thinking - http://tinyurl.com/yokuh9 It's the way I did things before was even aware of that Mr. Moulton's post on the subject. Yes, my bars are above saddle height. Although have lowered things recently on the Hillborne so they are only about 2 to 4 cm above saddle level. With a 10cm Dirt Drop stem on my 56cm Hillborne everything is close enough. In retrospect, a 60cm frame would probably look better (less seatpost showing). However, the reach would be too long. As to the Hunqapillar, the extra 1.5cm in top tube length on the 58cm would have required me to look for a 7cm stem, if I was going to use drop bar on that bike. Or, probably, run with the bars 4 to 6cm above the saddle height. Did straddle a 62 (or 61?) cm Quickbeam last year. With an 11 or so cm stem. The reach had my arms totally straight out and was extremely uncomfortable. Although that should be the proper frame size for my measurements. Am 5'11 with a PBH of 89. Am also overweight. So maybe my own setup preference is due to less ability to really tuck down and get into a nice flat back aero position? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 22:46 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two, neither looks nor durability. Odd. Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more susceptible to shimmy. The 60 and above could be shimmy machines in the right conditions. And if you've ever experienced high speed shimmy, you will readily consider purchasing a triple top tube bike if it's offered. Hey, a Triple-pillar for 2011? Are you contending that the double (or god forbid, triple) top tube is meant to prevent speed wobble? I'd like to see some evidence for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars
Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in. I can confirm your statements--I have three Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and top tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops. Same bars (Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each other... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:54 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that cat. As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them longer (effectively, not literally). Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem we gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 Centurion Ironman, etc. I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for the size. Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline funky, but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:46 AM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two, neither looks nor durability. Odd. Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more susceptible to shimmy. The 60 and above could be shimmy machines in the right conditions. And if you've ever experienced high speed shimmy, you will readily consider purchasing a triple top tube bike if it's offered. Hey, a Triple-pillar for 2011? There are lots of bikes over 60cm that don't shimmy. If it's a problem, it can be fixed by making the top tube and or down tube thicker or larger in diameter. For years the Atlantis was sold as a stout touring bike, and it never had two top tubes. At one point, they even made it as big as 68cm! Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
Are you contending that the double (or god forbid, triple) Why God forbid? I like traditional diamond frames, but triple frames done right look swell. http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrotec-inglis-cycles/4561446951/ On May 6, 6:11 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 22:46 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two, neither looks nor durability. Odd. Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more susceptible to shimmy. The 60 and above could be shimmy machines in the right conditions. And if you've ever experienced high speed shimmy, you will readily consider purchasing a triple top tube bike if it's offered. Hey, a Triple-pillar for 2011? Are you contending that the double (or god forbid, triple) top tube is meant to prevent speed wobble? I'd like to see some evidence for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
I love my double-TT Bombadil, and I love that twin top-tubes pisses everybody off. Moustache bars, lugs, technomic stems, 650b wheels. Same thing.It's why I like Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
I would say that the double top tube is not completely necessary for structural integrity. I would just say it looks awesome! Very unique design, but I agree with newenglandbike that it is like lugs, 650b or moustache bars, Riv always pushes the boundaries of the normal definition of what a bike is. That is why I like them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
I think you've hit the nail on the head... A double top tube is an opportunity for: More lugs! On 5/6/2010 8:17 AM, jpp wrote: I would say that the double top tube is not completely necessary for structural integrity. I would just say it looks awesome! Very unique design, but I agree with newenglandbike that it is like lugs, 650b or moustache bars, Riv always pushes the boundaries of the normal definition of what a bike is. That is why I like them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
Wow--I would have thought more. So if I have a 62cm centerpull Saluki it's probably one of, what, ten? If two batches, maybe one of 20? Good thing I snapped it up! :) Rob in Seattle On May 5, 2010, at 8:07 PM, rob markwardt wrote: In RR 33 they said the first run was going to be 100 (half were cantilevers and half for centerpulls). I'm guessing they had a one or two more batches made but I'd guess again they weren't in very large quantities.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bicycle Repair in Chicago
Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also need a frame repaint. Thanks, Tino Cota Chicago, Ill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Oh, to be On the Road with: Sal Paradise and Dean Moriarty Joel On May 5, 9:28 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: The Beatnik! Ryan You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bicycle Repair in Chicago
What part do you live in? It's a big place. On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Taco Truck tinoc...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also need a frame repaint. Thanks, Tino Cota Chicago, Ill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
On May 5, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Taco Truck wrote: Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also need a frame repaint. Try Owen Lloyd at Blue City Cycles, 3201 S. Halsted. Owen is a steel bike enthusiast and regular attendee at the 3 Speed Tour and the All- British Cycling Event here in Minnesota. Very nice guy, knows bikes. http://www.bluecitycycles.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
What is wrong with the answers - and the offered link - you received on Peter White's site? On May 5, 5:41 pm, Taco Truck tinoc...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also need a frame repaint. Thanks, Tino Cota Chicago, Ill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv frames work great with drop bars
My Atlantis' primary mission is touring, and it's equipped with drop bars, set about at seat height. I like drops for the variety of hand positions and ability to sit fairly upright when on the tops as well as getting low when bucking a headwind. The relationship of seat- pedals-h'bars was based on my previous bike but of course has been adjusted over time (age will do that to you). The 58 61 Atlantis overlap my PBH so I went 58, knowing I could make it bigger easier than smaller. Only minor adjustment of stem seat post height were needed to get it comfy. When I'm on the bike all day, every day on a tour, it's important to be able to change position, sit up, etc. to keep comfortable. Of course, stopping for coffee photos helps a lot too. Occassionally I think about a flat bar for ease of packing shipping the bike, but am reluctant to give up the positioning variety of drops. Judging by the variety of set-ups on cyclofiend's site, Rivs are pretty adaptable, with about any bar you can name being used by someone. dougP On May 6, 5:57 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in. I can confirm your statements--I have three Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and top tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops. Same bars (Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each other... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:54 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that cat. As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them longer (effectively, not literally). Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem we gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 Centurion Ironman, etc. I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for the size. Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline funky, but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site. On May 6, 12:37 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On May 5, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Taco Truck wrote: Anyone have a source that can replace a cracked seat stay? I also need a frame repaint. Try Owen Lloyd at Blue City Cycles, 3201 S. Halsted. Owen is a steel bike enthusiast and regular attendee at the 3 Speed Tour and the All- British Cycling Event here in Minnesota. Very nice guy, knows bikes. http://www.bluecitycycles.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
Your serial # is on the BB shell. You know that they made at least THAT many. :) Mine is 0084. From: Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:37:17 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance Wow--I would have thought more. So if I have a 62cm centerpull Saluki it's probably one of, what, ten? If two batches, maybe one of 20? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
Good point! I'll have to look when the bike arrives. I was thinking, out of say 200 Salukis, there might be only 20 or so in 62cm. Rob in Seattle On May 6, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bruce wrote: Your serial # is on the BB shell. You know that they made at least THAT many. :) Mine is 0084. From: Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:37:17 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance Wow--I would have thought more. So if I have a 62cm centerpull Saluki it's probably one of, what, ten? If two batches, maybe one of 20? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
on 5/6/10 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site. He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so I didn't pass it through until today. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: props for Jack Browns off-road
I duuno. The fat Ti tubes on a small frame just don't do it for me. The Strada Bianca is a custom frame. You can have it built out of steel, Ti or aluminum. You could really address most aesthetic issues in your choice of materials. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF jgre...@earthlink.net wrote: Oh, to be On the Road with: Sal Paradise and Dean Moriarty Joel Yes! Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names from literature. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so I didn't pass it through until today. My bad. Thanks for clearing this up. Sorry Tino. On May 6, 2:02 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/6/10 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site. He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so I didn't pass it through until today. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
or J.J. Yossarian On May 6, 12:31 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF jgre...@earthlink.net wrote: Oh, to be On the Road with: Sal Paradise and Dean Moriarty Joel Yes! Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names from literature. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: props for Jack Browns off-road
I know it's custom and can have in anyway you want. Hampston makes some beautuful bikes. I just think the fat Ti tubes look out of place on a small frame, nothing more. My comment on the size of the market was purely a philisophical statement about the sad fact that most cyclists would not buy it because it does not look like a professional racers bike, even if they only ride for fun. It would be great if this kind of bike, which is better suited to most riders was more commonly purchased, in any material. ~Mike~ On May 6, 12:12 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I duuno. The fat Ti tubes on a small frame just don't do it for me. The Strada Bianca is a custom frame. You can have it built out of steel, Ti or aluminum. You could really address most aesthetic issues in your choice of materials. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: props for Jack Browns off-road
Hampsten seems to be trying to build that market or at least serve what little crossover there may be between race-oriented riders and off-road ramblers. They recently released a model called Crema, which is a tig-welded production frame based on the Strada Bianca geometry. And with the straight-blade precisa style fork, it fits right in with the contemporary racy aesthetic while not compromising on clearance for Jack Brown-sized tires: http://www.hampsten.com/bikes/crema/ On May 6, 12:48 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I know it's custom and can have in anyway you want. Hampston makes some beautuful bikes. I just think the fat Ti tubes look out of place on a small frame, nothing more. My comment on the size of the market was purely a philisophical statement about the sad fact that most cyclists would not buy it because it does not look like a professional racers bike, even if they only ride for fun. It would be great if this kind of bike, which is better suited to most riders was more commonly purchased, in any material. ~Mike~ On May 6, 12:12 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I duuno. The fat Ti tubes on a small frame just don't do it for me. The Strada Bianca is a custom frame. You can have it built out of steel, Ti or aluminum. You could really address most aesthetic issues in your choice of materials. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Salinas to Templeton (near Paso Robles)
I've done this route before (actually San Jose to Santa Barbara). Just get a AAA map and ride the roads that parallel 101. They are great. I like this valley a lot (home of East of Eden). King City has a bunch of in-expensive motels and lots of good Mexican resturants. Good luck and have fun! Jeff On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 AM, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.comwrote: Starting around June 7, I be riding inland from Salinas to Templeton, (near Paso Robles). Two questions: (1) favorite routes/route advice? (2) I won't be camping...any not expensive, but clean and decent motel recommendations? (ok...that's really three questions) Thanks, Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
I appreciate all of the great info about this great bike. I wonder if anyone knows where to find information about the naming. Was this a favorite dog of Grant's or did the name make reference to a literary dog? This could be another vein for names...Airedale, Springer, Retriever for a grocery bicycle? Thanks! Pepe pewter Saluki 0064 On May 6, 12:58 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Good point! I'll have to look when the bike arrives. I was thinking, out of say 200 Salukis, there might be only 20 or so in 62cm. Rob in Seattle On May 6, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bruce wrote: Your serial # is on the BB shell. You know that they made at least THAT many. :) Mine is 0084. From: Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:37:17 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance Wow--I would have thought more. So if I have a 62cm centerpull Saluki it's probably one of, what, ten? If two batches, maybe one of 20? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
LaToya Jackson? I get it, but yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One scary women, is she. How about a lugged frameset with a S curved downtube that has a removable top tube via SS couplers to convert it to a Mixte: The removable TT is decal'd with Chazz Bono; the downtube is decal'd with Chastity Bono? Seat Tube, beyond the Rivendell decals, says He Said/She Said. -Scott On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Other classics from literature: Buck Mulligan Queequeg Really, both Ulysses and Moby Dick are rife with possibilities. Anyone for a 'Pequod'? Shawn On May 6, 12:44 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: or J.J. Yossarian On May 6, 12:31 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF jgre...@earthlink.net wrote: Oh, to be On the Road with: Sal Paradise and Dean Moriarty Joel Yes! Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names from literature. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
LaToya Jackson? Maybe for a carbon fibre whip. I get it though, but yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One scary woman, is she. How about a lugged frameset with a S curved downtube that has a removable top tube via SS couplers to convert it to a Mixte: The removable TT is decal'd with Chazz Bono; the downtube is decal'd with Chastity Bono? Seat Tube, beyond the Rivendell decals, says He Said/She Said. -Scott On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Shakesbiker pbdemar...@gmail.com wrote: I appreciate all of the great info about this great bike. I wonder if anyone knows where to find information about the naming. Was this a favorite dog of Grant's or did the name make reference to a literary dog? This could be another vein for names...Airedale, Springer, Retriever for a grocery bicycle? I dunno the background - but saluki's are VERY fast dogs that can go over desert and mountainous territory quickly. They can traverse odd country incredibly fast. They were bred to chase down rabbits iirc. From wikipedia: Although the greyhound is the fastest dog breed with a top speed of around 45 mph (72 km/h), the Saluki's strength lies in its great endurance and stamina. They may not be the fastest sighthounds, but they can run for much longer than the sprinting breeds. What better for a bike? - go fast - go far - keep going in many many terrains. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
New name for women's mixte: Granny Wrinkle Toes Man, I bet that one would sell like hotcakes. From: Me clotht...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions LaToya Jackson? Maybe for a carbon fibre whip. I get it though, but yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One scary woman, is she. How about a lugged frameset with a S curved downtube that has a removable top tube via SS couplers to convert it to a Mixte: The removable TT is decal'd with Chazz Bono; the downtube is decal'd with Chastity Bono? Seat Tube, beyond the Rivendell decals, says He Said/She Said. -Scott On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
I'm hoping for a Capt. Spaulding -- a bike fit for an African explorer. On May 6, 1:59 pm, soapscum smula...@gmail.com wrote: Other classics from literature: Buck Mulligan Queequeg Really, both Ulysses and Moby Dick are rife with possibilities. Anyone for a 'Pequod'? Shawn On May 6, 12:44 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: or J.J. Yossarian On May 6, 12:31 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On May 5, 8:40 pm, SFF jgre...@earthlink.net wrote: Oh, to be On the Road with: Sal Paradise and Dean Moriarty Joel Yes! Gnossos Pappadopoulis and Ignasius P. Reilly would be other good names from literature. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
The Rivendell Saluki was named for the dog, a strong, swift runner over varied terrain. An attractive canine, it looks kind of like a long-haired greyhound. I remember no more detail about Grant¹s intent. I had the privilege of designing the decals and badges for it under the direction of John Price, who owns both bike and dog, and who helped me make the headbadge image look less like a bloodhound and more like a Saluki. All of the above is purely from my memory; I¹m sure others could add more. Corrections gratefully welcomed. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts From: Shakesbiker pbdemar...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 13:52:08 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance I appreciate all of the great info about this great bike. I wonder if anyone knows where to find information about the naming. Was this a favorite dog of Grant's or did the name make reference to a literary dog? This could be another vein for names...Airedale, Springer, Retriever for a grocery bicycle? Thanks! Pepe pewter Saluki 0064 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: props for Jack Browns off-road
I saw that on their website... very nice bike and perfect for that market. Chris King also has a similar semi-production model called Ceilo Sportif http://cielo.chrisking.com/bikes/sportif-details/ that fits that in that market niche too. I'm hoping that these builders can develop that market a little more so a greater variety of accessories and components for that type of bike will become available. ~Mike~ On May 6, 1:35 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hampsten seems to be trying to build that market or at least serve what little crossover there may be between race-oriented riders and off-road ramblers. They recently released a model called Crema, which is a tig-welded production frame based on the Strada Bianca geometry. And with the straight-blade precisa style fork, it fits right in with the contemporary racy aesthetic while not compromising on clearance for Jack Brown-sized tires: http://www.hampsten.com/bikes/crema/ On May 6, 12:48 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I know it's custom and can have in anyway you want. Hampston makes some beautuful bikes. I just think the fat Ti tubes look out of place on a small frame, nothing more. My comment on the size of the market was purely a philisophical statement about the sad fact that most cyclists would not buy it because it does not look like a professional racers bike, even if they only ride for fun. It would be great if this kind of bike, which is better suited to most riders was more commonly purchased, in any material. ~Mike~ On May 6, 12:12 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I duuno. The fat Ti tubes on a small frame just don't do it for me. The Strada Bianca is a custom frame. You can have it built out of steel, Ti or aluminum. You could really address most aesthetic issues in your choice of materials. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 14:11 -0700, Jim M. wrote: I'm hoping for a Capt. Spaulding -- a bike fit for an African explorer. Wouldn't that be Schnorrer? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycle Repair in Chicago
Tino, there's a lot of overlap between RBW, BL, and (in case you don't know it yet) Internet BOB. Same really for Classic Rendezvous, but your question would be marginally appropriate over there due to the rules, it tries hard to stick to pre-1984 upper end road bikes. You've got a few good inputs, but I think the biggest variable is, what part of Chicagoland is accessible to you? If you live near Evanston, it makes no sense to have to take your bike to South Halsted. Similarly if you live southeast, like Pullman, it'll be hard to get ot any of these places. If none of the suggestions you've gotten so far are usable, let us know, maybe we can dredge up some more. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:38 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so I didn't pass it through until today. My bad. Thanks for clearing this up. Sorry Tino. On May 6, 2:02 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/6/10 10:48 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Yesterday I recommended Owen to the poster over on the PJW site. He's a new user and therefore moderated. From the time stamp on his actual post, he probably posted both at the same time. Just a busy week for me, so I didn't pass it through until today. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
I believe Sheldon cautioned us to use the inner rim width to assess tire suitability, not the outer. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken
[RBW] Re: Query Concerning Rim Width and Tire Size
Of course inner width is important, but there is a close relationship between inner and outer widths. and most manufacturers quote outside width only so ya use what ya got. Sheldon's charts by the way only address the large end of the equation. that is... how big can you go. ~Mike~ On May 6, 3:08 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I believe Sheldon cautioned us to use the inner rim width to assess tire suitability, not the outer. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: It's always worthwhile to consult Sheldon Brown http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On May 6, 11:59 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The cliffhanger is one of the widest rims around at 28mm outside width. I would not ride anything narrower than a 32mm tire on a rim that wide. Since it's only available in 26 in. rims that would equate to a 1.25 wide tire. I don't have any bikes in that size but I think there are not many roadish tires in that size. ~Mike~ On May 6, 10:57 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: George: You mention taking your Atlantis on a road trip. Is this a bke tour or are you taking the bike along with you on a vehicle trip? Think about what you're going to use the bike for and whether you need to ride it every day to get where you are going. Those constraints are important in your choice of tire. If the bike is going with you but just for day rides, you can go with about any tire you want. But if the bike is your primary mode of transportation, 28 might be a bit narrow. FWIW, I run 35mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis for everything from loaded tours to So Cal sand washes. They're absolutely perfect for touring but perhaps a bit lacking off-road :). BTW, I have no clue on the tire size / rim size queston, but I'll wager that if Riv supplied the wheels, they could advise you on appropriate tire sizes. dougP On May 6, 9:42 am, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: The important numberfor the rim is the inner width, the spacing between the inner edges of both bead hooks. To measure it the tire must be off. Typically a tire shouldn't be less than maybe 8 mm wider than this number or more than maybe 20 mm wider - I don't know the precise numbers. But it's definitely based on the inner width. Few bicycle rims, if any, have inner widths as large as 28 mm. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:08 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I am very foggy on the relationship between rim and tire size. My Atlantis came with Velocity Cliff Hanger rims which are approximately 28mm wide. The tires are Big Apples. I want to put some narrower tires, perhaps Marathon Racers, on the wheels for a road trip this summer. I gather I cannot go narrower than 28. Is that the only number I should be worried about? Thanks. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib ...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://
Re: [RBW] Rivendell and drop bars and reach
Thanks for posting that link to Dave Moulton's thoughts on TT/stem length. Fascinating. I think this explains why, at 6' - 2 and size 10.5 shoes (small for my height) I prefer a shorter stem Hope I can get my 62cm Saluki (sized right for PBH) set up properly. Rob in Seattle On May 6, 2010, at 3:32 AM, EricP wrote: Do feel that my Sam Hillborne works well with drop bars. However, the riding position is eversoslightly longer than I'd call absolute perfect. But my own setup for bar reach is based on this type of thinking - http://tinyurl.com/yokuh9 It's the way I did things before was even aware of that Mr. Moulton's post on the subject. Yes, my bars are above saddle height. Although have lowered things recently on the Hillborne so they are only about 2 to 4 cm above saddle level. With a 10cm Dirt Drop stem on my 56cm Hillborne everything is close enough. In retrospect, a 60cm frame would probably look better (less seatpost showing). However, the reach would be too long. As to the Hunqapillar, the extra 1.5cm in top tube length on the 58cm would have required me to look for a 7cm stem, if I was going to use drop bar on that bike. Or, probably, run with the bars 4 to 6cm above the saddle height. Did straddle a 62 (or 61?) cm Quickbeam last year. With an 11 or so cm stem. The reach had my arms totally straight out and was extremely uncomfortable. Although that should be the proper frame size for my measurements. Am 5'11 with a PBH of 89. Am also overweight. So maybe my own setup preference is due to less ability to really tuck down and get into a nice flat back aero position? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Salinas to Templeton (near Paso Robles)
Christine: +1 for the coast over the inland route, but between the Monterey Hostel and M-6 in San Simeon there are no inexpensive lodgings, and about 120 miles of riding. I came north on the inland route a couple of years ago. Routes paralleling 101 are easy but there is one stretch around a military facility where you're on the freeway. Not for long but it's noisy. We went from Paso Robles to King City in a day that was short but had PM headwinds. In your direction those will be tailwinds so you can get from M-6 in King City to M-6 in Paso in a day, even planning moderate mileages. dougP On May 6, 1:42 pm, Jeff Feldstein cygoo...@gmail.com wrote: I've done this route before (actually San Jose to Santa Barbara). Just get a AAA map and ride the roads that parallel 101. They are great. I like this valley a lot (home of East of Eden). King City has a bunch of in-expensive motels and lots of good Mexican resturants. Good luck and have fun! Jeff On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:57 AM, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.comwrote: Starting around June 7, I be riding inland from Salinas to Templeton, (near Paso Robles). Two questions: (1) favorite routes/route advice? (2) I won't be camping...any not expensive, but clean and decent motel recommendations? (ok...that's really three questions) Thanks, Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
My daughters would never ride a bike that had LaToya Jackson on the down tube or anywhere else... I'm not going to suggest any names, but names that polarize people so radically should be avoided. If you ask me, my preference is for Greek female names or names of planets. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Hooray, hooray, hooray! One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. Bike naming - for the really big frames - Fezzik. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 6, 4:37�pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 14:11 -0700, Jim M. wrote: I'm hoping for a Capt. Spaulding -- a bike fit for an African explorer. Wouldn't that be Schnorrer? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
Well and good. But gotta draw the line at Uranus. Another great name - P. Caspar Biddle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 6, 7:12�pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: My daughters would never ride a bike that had LaToya Jackson on the down tube or anywhere else... I'm not going to suggest any names, but names that polarize people so radically should be avoided. If you ask me, my preference is for Greek female names or names of planets. Ren� -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
As long as you spell it correctly... I believe it is Dick Van PattEn. How 'bout John Rhys Davies? Didn't he voice Treebeard and play Gimli? You'll have to toss me! TLS who anxiously awaits with assonance an Abe Vigoda frameset On May 6, 3:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Rocinante would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse, and John Steinbeck's camper in Travels with Charley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
An actual gender-agnostic mixte: the Pastorale On May 5, 1:20 pm, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike 10. Travelino 9. Henri Torres 8. Vagabondo 7. Hugonaut 6. Velocipes 5. Navigador 4. Luis Rotundus 3. F. Murray Abraham 2. Uniped (lugged steel unicycle, made for touring) 1. Retro Grouchier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
how about.. Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring) Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed) Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes) Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er) Cutter (in the same family as a Rodeo, but more fun to beat out of town carbon racers with) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv names - One for Tall People's Bikes
I can't resist, and I fear I'm getting in late in the game. But a bike for tall people must be named: Mo Udall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Udall -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Women's clothing, Swobo Descente - price reduced, buy now! buy, buy, buy, buy
The bold text must have been the trick... that and dropping the price by ~50% All items are sold pending payment! THANKS! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No interest at the original price, so depression-era blow-out pricing now! And I'm not just talking it up, but this stuff is incredibly nice. Super soft and just a touch thicker than Swobo's current production. Fantastic condition Swobo sleeveless jersies. Size small (although run a touch big). Black http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562255846/in/photostream/with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626117/in/photostream/. Dark periwinkle with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626431/in/photostream/. Two pockets in back. No shrinkage or moth holes. As new. Made in New Zealand with very fine Merino wool. * $30 each or both for $50, shipping included.* Also, Descent women's tightshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562256822/in/photostream/. Size small, made in Hong Kong. Synthetic, no pad. Nice fit, again, fantastic as new condition. One stripe darkened with a Sharpie. * $20 including shipping.* *$60 buys the lot* and sends it to you or your lady friend's house. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:54 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Fantastic condition Swobo sleeveless jersies. Size small (although run a touch big). Black http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562255846/in/photostream/with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626117/in/photostream/. Dark periwinkle with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626431/in/photostream/. Two pockets in back. No shrinkage or moth holes. As new. Made in New Zealand with very fine Merino wool. $50 each or both for $80, shipping included. Also, Descent women's tightshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562256822/in/photostream/. Size small, made in Hong Kong. Synthetic, no pad. Nice fit, again, fantastic as new condition. One stripe darkened with a Sharpie. $30 including shipping. $100 buys the lot and sends it to you or your lady friend's house. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Women's clothing, Swobo Descente - price reduced, buy now! buy, buy, buy, buy
Interesting observation: There were several responders, but all were guys interested in it for their S.O.s. None of the ibob/RBW lady-folk jumped at this once in a lifetime opportunity. Discuss amongst yourselves. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:08 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The bold text must have been the trick... that and dropping the price by ~50% All items are sold pending payment! THANKS! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: No interest at the original price, so depression-era blow-out pricing now! And I'm not just talking it up, but this stuff is incredibly nice. Super soft and just a touch thicker than Swobo's current production. Fantastic condition Swobo sleeveless jersies. Size small (although run a touch big). Black http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562255846/in/photostream/with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626117/in/photostream/. Dark periwinkle with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626431/in/photostream/. Two pockets in back. No shrinkage or moth holes. As new. Made in New Zealand with very fine Merino wool. * $30 each or both for $50, shipping included.* Also, Descent women's tightshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562256822/in/photostream/. Size small, made in Hong Kong. Synthetic, no pad. Nice fit, again, fantastic as new condition. One stripe darkened with a Sharpie. * $20 including shipping.* *$60 buys the lot* and sends it to you or your lady friend's house. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:54 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Fantastic condition Swobo sleeveless jersies. Size small (although run a touch big). Black http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562255846/in/photostream/with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626117/in/photostream/. Dark periwinkle with cream detailshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4561626431/in/photostream/. Two pockets in back. No shrinkage or moth holes. As new. Made in New Zealand with very fine Merino wool. $50 each or both for $80, shipping included. Also, Descent women's tightshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4562256822/in/photostream/. Size small, made in Hong Kong. Synthetic, no pad. Nice fit, again, fantastic as new condition. One stripe darkened with a Sharpie. $30 including shipping. $100 buys the lot and sends it to you or your lady friend's house. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
You make me so happy today. http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627056448446248 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:57 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] LaToya etc
FTR, wasn't Sirius. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
How about stealing a name from a guy I actually know and once worked with: Roscoe Sweeny? From: EricP ericpl...@aol.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 5:24:12 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions Well and good. But gotta draw the line at Uranus. Another great name - P. Caspar Biddle. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 6, 7:12�pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: My daughters would never ride a bike that had LaToya Jackson on the down tube or anywhere else... I'm not going to suggest any names, but names that polarize people so radically should be avoided. If you ask me, my preference is for Greek female names or names of planets. Ren� -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Rocinante would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse, and John Steinbeck's camper in Travels with Charley. That's the name of my touring bike. 'Cept I spell it differently. On May 6, 8:31 pm, Annette Lein alein...@earthlink.net wrote: For a mixte.Emmeline Pankhurst On May 6, 2010, at 8:46 PM, andrew hill wrote: how about.. Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring) Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed) Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes) Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er) Cutter (in the same family as a Rodeo, but more fun to beat out of town carbon racers with) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
I once had a girlfriend who bought a rattle-can black no-label bike she named Boo Radley. -- Michael Mann http://baiku-velomann.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] FS: Women's clothing, Swobo Descente - price reduced, buy now! buy, buy, buy, buy
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Chris Cullum cullum.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting observation: There were several responders, but all were guys interested in it for their S.O.s. None of the ibob/RBW lady-folk jumped at this once in a lifetime opportunity. Discuss amongst yourselves. Uh, what iBob lady-folk. There used to be Beth H and Sarah but they haven't posted in a while. I can't think of any other regular posters off hand. Don't forget Leslie!!! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Rocinante, or Rose, was the name of Dervla Murphy's bike in Full Tilt, IIRC. Dervla would also be a great bike name and a suitable honor. On May 6, 7:29 pm, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Rocinante would be pretty awesome—the name of Don Quixote's horse, and John Steinbeck's camper in Travels with Charley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB Noodle bars
Looking to buy a Nitto Noodle bar 48cm.If anyone is interested in selling one plesae contact me.Thanks ride on!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Home | PUBLIC Bikes
I forget if this has been posted to the list before, so here goes ... http://www.publicbikes.com/ Some very Riv-ish bikes, replete with baskets, bags, and Albatross-y bars. --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
You all realize, after all this, that the next new Rivendell bicycle will have no name. Just a moniker-free headbadge. - Jim What hath we wrought?... -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
On May 6, 1:57 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I got a girl in the Castle and one in the pagoda You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda Word. I think I actually think of the Beastie Boys first and Fish second when I hear his name. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
An undeniably cool name and worthy woman to commemorate, but perhaps a mixed message for a bike. At least one biographer quotes her as saying to her daughter: You must not ride too much on your bicycle. See (p. 52): http://books.google.com/books?id=ksUh2lIpcGYCpg=PA52dq=Emmeline+Pankhurst+bicycleei=VpvjS5WSL5islQT_qKznCQcd=1#v=onepageqf=false On May 6, 6:31 pm, Annette Lein alein...@earthlink.net wrote: For a mixte.Emmeline Pankhurst On May 6, 2010, at 8:46 PM, andrew hill wrote: how about.. Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring) Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed) Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes) Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er) Cutter (in the same family as a Rodeo, but more fun to beat out of town carbon racers with) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] bombadil fork / racks?
ok, so this Bomba i have is pretty lovely, but i'm at a loss as to how all the eyelets and screwintoable bits there are on the fork could best be used. i've got no racks currently.. would just having a front one affect the handling adversely? assuming smallish front panniers or a top bag, 80% city riding. and.. will any nitto w adjustable arms really work on the drilled fork crown? i've got an R-15, and doesn't seem the brakes-connecting-cable will interact well with a rack there... what racks work well? and assuming those eyelets on the back-side of the fork are for... a lowrider rack? so... anyone got pics of enracked Bombadillage? or suggestions? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
