[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread Angus
Roy,

I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
spring-thingie.

Angus

On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates roydya...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
 from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
 stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
 bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
 tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
 My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
 bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
 the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
 between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
 hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
 through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
 not, is there some other solution?

 Thanks,
 ...Roy

 On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:

   Here you go:

  Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
  scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
  move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!

  On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:

   Here you go:

  http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html

Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
From: dougpn...@cox.net
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
stores  especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
mounting than just using a spring, correct?

dougP

On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
 Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the fender
 to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
 project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.

 I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual suspects
 sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If so,
 anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?

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[RBW] 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
shifting.

Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
build.

Bryan

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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
 On the North Side, Clark and Devon hardware - northeast corner (my old
 neighborhood!)

 Also check out Gary's Cycles, one or two blocks south on the east side of
 Clark.  That LBS is essentially the same as it was in 1962.

I will have to check them out.  As it happens, the street
configuration there is among the least bike friendly in the city, so I
avoid whenver possible (when I go to Rogers Park I usually take Damen
to where it turns onto Ravenswood, then Ravenswood north - the
cyclists have beaten a path at Peterson).

It would seem there must be some way to get a bolt on either side of a
spring so you can attach one to the bridge and the other to the
fender.

On Jul 28, 11:00 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the North Side, Clark and Devon hardware - northeast corner (my old
 neighborhood!)

 Also check out Gary's Cycles, one or two blocks south on the east side of
 Clark.  That LBS is essentially the same as it was in 1962.





 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:39 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
   I am fortunate to have a local hardware store that has a box with at
   least one of every conceivable small spring.

  Sadly, Home Despot and GalLowes have wreaked havoc on the independent
  hardware stores in Chicago.  There probably are a few left in some of
  the smaller, further out suburbs.  I will have to look around.

  On Jul 28, 8:11 pm, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote:
   I am fortunate to have a local hardware store that has a box with at
   least one of every conceivable small spring.

   You might try that route.

   Bob

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
Beautiful work.  The Hillborne and Ultegra headset look just fine
together.

On Jul 29, 6:55 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
 to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
 Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

 Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
 Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
 balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
 bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
 shifting.

 Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
 build.

 Bryan

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[RBW] Re: Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Garth

Jim, I checked the RD travel with no chain on, and it hits the 28t cog
despite the B screw all the way in, at the highest tension.

I'm not sure what value the Park Tool idea is though, as on my road
bike, the XT RD will hit the 32t cog with the chain off, but with the
chain on it's not too close, and it shifts fine.

I'm using all 114 included links of a SRAM chain, BTW. As far as I
know, the Bombadil doesn't need longer than a stock chain.

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[RBW] FS: Nitto S-83 Seatpost (very scratched up)

2010-07-29 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Functionally it's perfect but aesthetically in pretty rough shape from a lot
of moving around from bike to bike and at different heights. Seat tube
scratches on pretty much entire length. Used mostly on my commuter/beater,
and probably ideal for yours. $50 shipped to CONUS. Can provide pics if
absolutely necessary.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Shaun Meehan
Looks great! You really take some fantastic bike pictures. I love that
Hillborne orange. I've been riding a Surly Pacer quite a bit lately,
and it's equipped with Shimano Tiagra brifters. It's the first
brifter equipped bike that I've ridden in a long time. I know it's
sort of sacrilege on this list, but I really like the brifters a
lot. They're super ergonomic and they shift perfectly (at least for
now). What kind of bar tape did you use on the Hillborne?

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Earl Grey
Thanks for all the recommendations.

I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...

Btw, I think she could be convinced to spend $2000 on the right bike,
but more may be a stretch.

Cheers,

Gernot


On Jul 28, 1:18 am, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote:
 Earl - If you go with 24 tires like the Red-Line then here's a
 bobish alternative:

 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/bik/1863030284.html

 Tire selection is probably abysmal in 24.  I'd try to stay with 26
 if you can.

 Phil B

 On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:



  My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but
  now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and
  commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys
  (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does
  anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to
  48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider?

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[RBW] Wanted: mixte or step-through bike in NZ (or shopping help)

2010-07-29 Thread Earl Grey
Hi,

another friend of mine has just moved to New Zealand (Palmerston North
on the north island, to be precise), and is looking for an around-town
bike/commuter. Something with fenders and a rack or basket that she
can ride in a skirt. Could be a cheapo like my wife's Raleigh I wrote
about here recently. Anyone know anyone in the area selling a bike, or
who could help her find one? She is not (yet) bike-savvy.

Cheers,

Gernot

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[RBW] FS: Brooks Swallow Titanium (Honey)

2010-07-29 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Used, but in phenomenal shape. The no-compromise, best-of-all-worlds Brooks
saddle, in the best color. $280 shipped FedEx to CONUS. Please repy
off-list.

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Michael_S
looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.

~Mike~

On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!

 Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
 Imperial saddle it's the same.

 I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
 the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.

 I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
 about the look of the crank.

 -Pete

 On Jul 29, 7:55 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles



 renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
  to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
  Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

  Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
  Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
  balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
  bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
  shifting.

  Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
  build.

  Bryan- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the recommendations.

 I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
 keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
 the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
 rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
 benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
 very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...


a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they
may be more than she wants to spend.

and salukis are really pretty.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the recommendations.

 I should have mentioned that she is interested in a go-fast (partly to
 keep up with her boyfriend on his Indy Fab cyclocross). I have planted
 the seed of the issue perhaps being her boyfriend being too fast,
 rather than her being too slow, and am working to convince her of the
 benefits of bobishness. So the target bike would probably resemble a
 very small Rodeo or AHH more than an Atlantis or LHT...


a bunch of small salukis on the frame specials on rivbike - but they
may be more than she wants to spend.

and salukis are really pretty.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Michael_S
I was just thinkin'... these bikes would look very cool with that new
Gran Compe centerpull brakeset from VO!

~Mike~

On Jul 29, 7:18 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
 canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
 one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.

 ~Mike~

 On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:



  Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!

  Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
  Imperial saddle it's the same.

  I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
  the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.

  I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
  about the look of the crank.

  -Pete

  On Jul 29, 7:55 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles

  renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
   to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
   Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

  http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

   Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
   Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
   balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
   bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
   shifting.

   Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
   build.

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Pesce
As far as I can tell the decorative elements of the lugs are a bit
different on these Sams from the previous orange models.
And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.

On Jul 29, 10:18 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
 canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
 one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.

 ~Mike~

 On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

  Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!

  Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
  Imperial saddle it's the same.

  I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
  the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.

  I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
  about the look of the crank.

  -Pete

  On Jul 29, 7:55 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles

  renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
   I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
   to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
   Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

  http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

   Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
   Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
   balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
   bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
   shifting.

   Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
   build.

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[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy

2010-07-29 Thread JoelMatthews
Wasn't minding my edits this a.m.  Meant to say:

 Are you just putting the cork between the bike and fender with no
 bolt inside?

And to Roy's point, a photo if possible would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

Who would have thought something so apparently simple could become so
complicated!

On Jul 29, 7:10 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
  corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
  even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
  spring-thingie.

 Are you just putting the cork between the bike and no fender with not
 bolt inside?  If so, how does it stay in place/ If bolted, how do you
 get the fender out of the way when removing the fender?  Or does the
 All-Rounder have vertical (or even semi-horizontal) drop outs?

 On Jul 29, 2:55 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



  Roy,

  I had the same issue with my 26 inch wheeled All-Rounder.  I used two
  corks as fender spacers at the lower front of the rear fender to get
  even fender spacing to the tire (26x2.0) and found I didn't need the
  spring-thingie.

  Angus

  On Jul 28, 9:25 pm, Roy Yates roydya...@gmail.com wrote:

   I've needed this spring thingy for my All-Rounder which has a big gap
   from the 26 inch wheels/tire to the cross-brace between the chain
   stays. However, I don't think I would want the fender to slide on the
   bolt. In that case, won't the head of the bolt always be close to the
   tire and block the the horizontal motion of the tire during removal.
   My impression is that the example in the picture allows the end of the
   bolt closest to the seat tube to slide when the horizontal motion of
   the wheel pushes the fender.  However, an All-Rounder's cross-brace
   between the chain stays has a threaded hole for a fender bolt but the
   hole dead-ends in the cross-brace. I've wondered if anyone has drilled
   through the cross-brace to allow a fender bolt to slide through? If
   not, is there some other solution?

   Thanks,
   ...Roy

   On Jul 28, 9:40 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:

 Here you go:

Joe, thanks for the linked photo.  That shows what I was missing in my
scheme.  The bolt is thinner than it would be allowing the fender to
move back and forth over it.  Brilliant!

On Jul 28, 5:54 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Here you go:

http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2009/04/spring-thing.html

  Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:43:59 -0700
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
  From: dougpn...@cox.net
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

  Can you post a photo?  Springs are easy to find at good hardware
  stores  especially industrial supply stores.  There's more to the
  mounting than just using a spring, correct?

  dougP

  On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
   Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the 
   fender
   to the chain stay bridge.  Seems like that is ideal for my current
   project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts.

   I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual 
   suspects
   sell such a thing.  Are the mechanics cobbling this together?  If 
   so,
   anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how?

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Re: [RBW] Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Rene Sterental
There is always the option, in addition to all other suggestions, of
reversing the B screw to get some extra separation...

That's what I did on the Bombadil first and now the Atlantis to be
able to run a rear 12-36 with an XT Rapid Rise RD.

René

On 7/29/10, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jim, I checked the RD travel with no chain on, and it hits the 28t cog
 despite the B screw all the way in, at the highest tension.

 I'm not sure what value the Park Tool idea is though, as on my road
 bike, the XT RD will hit the 32t cog with the chain off, but with the
 chain on it's not too close, and it shifts fine.

 I'm using all 114 included links of a SRAM chain, BTW. As far as I
 know, the Bombadil doesn't need longer than a stock chain.

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
@ Shaun,

Thanks for the complements ... I too am a brifter man on my racey
Soma Stanyan.

The tape is Brooks leather in Brown.  Super good quality stuff ... the
cork bar end plugs are a really nice touch.

In fact, I've added few more photos of the bars, tape, saddle, and a
few Polariods just for fun:
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12gallery=63

Bryan


On Jul 29, 9:43 am, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks great! You really take some fantastic bike pictures. I love that
 Hillborne orange. I've been riding a Surly Pacer quite a bit lately,
 and it's equipped with Shimano Tiagra brifters. It's the first
 brifter equipped bike that I've ridden in a long time. I know it's
 sort of sacrilege on this list, but I really like the brifters a
 lot. They're super ergonomic and they shift perfectly (at least for
 now). What kind of bar tape did you use on the Hillborne?

 Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Considering selling my Colnago Tecnos 2000

2010-07-29 Thread jinxed
I suppose in the spectrum of things this could be considered at the go
fast fancy end of Rivendell-esque.

A 54cm 1999 Colnago Tecnos 2000. Full Campagnolo 10 etc...

I took this out for a 60 mile ride a couple weekends ago and came back
realizing the go-fast in me done got up and went. I have absolutely
loved this bike as the original owner for the last 11 years.
Completely babied and in near mint condition.

I'll admit, I love to have it hanging in the house, staring at it's
Italianess. But if it's not going to be ridden...it may need a new
lover. Never look back right? First rule of racing...what is behind
you does not matter.

I'm not really going to push it, but if someone here wants to cut a
fine figure...contact me.

Not sure on pricing...can't find ANY that are selling or have sold.
Less than a complete Riv, more than a complete Surly.

I will apologize for the crummy cell photo, but my camera was hijacked
by my wife this morning. I can get detailed photos tonight.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4841190254/#/photos/42027...@n00/4841190254/lightbox/

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Re: [RBW] Rear Derailleur Capacity Limits

2010-07-29 Thread Ken Freeman
If the jockey wheel is hitting the cog it's too close. Shortening the
chain is IMO the main way of rotating the cage so the jockey wheel
position os farther from the cog.  Then you have to see if operation
over the rest of the range is acceptable. If it's not, you might need
a different dérailleur.

A B screw adjustment might help.
On Thursday, July 29, 2010, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 7/28/10 6:09 PM, Angus at angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 This must be if Jim is wrong day

 Y'know I'm wrong _every_ day.
 In fact, I strive to be wrong every day.
 Somedays I do six wrong things before breakfast...

 By looking at the picture of the derailleur the upper pivot and upper
 jockey pulley are in different places.  Look at the picture and
 imagine a shorter chain, it would rotate the cage counter-clockwise,
 pulling the upper jockey pulley away from the cog.

 I just keep thinking that the issue isn't really the overall chain length as
 much as it is side load on the derailluer.  My suggestion was to lessen
 tension from the chain while the derailleur is at its most extended
 position.

 I kinda lost track if the OP mentioned that he'd checked derailleur travel
 with no chain installed (been workng/engineering today/this evening).  If
 the derailleur swings through the proper range without a chain, and keeps
 enough spacing from the cogs, then it might be worth tweaking the chain
 length to see if that helps.

 Should look like  this -
 http://www.parktool.com/images_inc/repair_help/der_llimit.gif

 from:
 http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=64


 - J

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread M. Chandler
The transition from the hoods to the flats looks fantastic.  Which
bars are those?

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[RBW] Re: madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Brad Gantt
I've heard good things about this shop from friends in Madison-
http://www.revolutioncycles.net/

On Jul 29, 10:44 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
 1. to travel by bike while in town
 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

 anyone know where I should look/talk to?

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Harrison
Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
missing?


Rob in Seattle


On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:


And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.


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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread William
Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
Yes.

Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
being my favorite

For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
bike

Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
the bike.

Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.



On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
 design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
 over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
 grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
 missing?

 Rob in Seattle

 On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:

  And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
  mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
  Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.



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Re: [RBW] madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Tim McNamara


On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:


If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
1. to travel by bike while in town
2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

anyone know where I should look/talk to?


Andy Muzi at the Yellow Jersey, one of the ten best bike shops on the  
planet.


www.yellowjersey.org

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread rperks
As stated there are tradeoffs both ways.  Best spacer I have fond to
date for this problem is a single presta valve nut on each.

Rob

On Jul 29, 11:56 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
 Yes.

 Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
 being my favorite

 For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
 observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
 For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
 observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
 bike

 Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
 only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
 riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
 on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
 it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
 the bike.

 Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
 to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.

 On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:



  Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
  design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
  over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
  grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
  missing?

  Rob in Seattle

  On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:

   And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
   mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
   Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:15 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
 As stated there are tradeoffs both ways.  Best spacer I have fond to
 date for this problem is a single presta valve nut on each.


presta-valve-nut! that makes so much more sense now!

I thought those were just things the tube manufacturers gave us to use
as spacers for rear-rack installs to let our fender stays sneak past.

:)

-sv

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Pesce
Thanks William.
That's the first reasonable explanation I've heard for that design
choice.

-Pete

On Jul 29, 2:56 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Design flaw?  No.  Design choice with which some will disagree?
 Yes.

 Many cages clear the FD without standoffs...the King Cage Riv sells
 being my favorite

 For every frame with a low mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
 observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to reach
 For every frame with a high mount seat tube H2O setup, there's an
 observer pointing out that it's unnecessarily harder to shoulder the
 bike

 Being able to easily reach the seat tube H2O bottle in my mind would
 only be important if you needed two different beverage choices while
 riding.  Otherwise it's easy-access on the downtube and backup water
 on the seattube.  Swap them out when the downtube one is empty.  What
 it gets you is extra space in the frame for a bag or for shouldering
 the bike.

 Low-mount H2O bosses have screwed me up a few times when I've wanted
 to use a 'low-clamp' front derailleur.

 On Jul 29, 11:39 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a  
  design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop  
  over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to  
  grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm  
  missing?

  Rob in Seattle

  On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote:

   And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
   mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
   Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.

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[RBW] Re: s24o in progress

2010-07-29 Thread William
I posted some of the pictures I took.  I did a poor job of taking
shots during the climb itself.  I admire how guys like Manny can take
60 photos during a 3000ft climb.  That's not me.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/



On Jul 25, 6:56 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 John Denver! I was on a bike camping trip earlier in the week and had
 Country Roads stuck in my head. At least they weren't playing Limp
 Bizkit.

 Please share pictures with us if you have any.

 --mike

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[RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

2010-07-29 Thread RonLau
To all,

Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.

Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
and that is.

Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.

Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
wheel.

Ron

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Re: [RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

2010-07-29 Thread James Warren

Hey Ron,
If it's available, I could come and pick it up in Berkeley sometime around 
August 15th.

Thanks,
Jim Warren
(orange Ram guy from the Fairfax ride last December)


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From: RonLau ron...@ronlau.com
Sent: Jul 29, 2010 5:45 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

To all,

Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.

Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
and that is.

Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.

Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
wheel.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos

2010-07-29 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I agree. Seems like the placement of the bottle cage bosses need not
be so low on a 60cm. Especially so low that they overlap the derailer
clamp.

However...

I have a double-top-tube 60cm Hillborne. While its bottle cage bosses
are reasonable where they are (on mine they're both solidly above the
derailer clamp), the simple addition of a frame bag mount (not the bag
itself) to the lower top tube has made it rather tedious to use the
seat tube bottle cage for an actual bottle. I never anticipated that
I'd be able to use the actual bag and still have good access to the
bottle cage. But I had hoped to be able to use the bottle cage when
only the bag's attachment dealy is in place. So, on my frame anyway,
having them a little lower would be nice. They could be a solid inch
or more lower without a chance of overlapping the derailer.

I'm thinking of adding a clamp below the front derailer specifically
to *lower* the bottle cage mount position so that the cage is more
generally useful. I haven't yet measured to see if it would be
practical to do so.

All that said... As problems go, this one barely rates. And it's
probably the most glaring imperfection (if it even qualifies as one)
my Hillborne has. It is one fantastic bike. Easy to build up,
fantastic to ride.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jul 29, 9:24 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I can tell the decorative elements of the lugs are a bit
 different on these Sams from the previous orange models.
 And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are
 mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them.
 Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame.

 On Jul 29, 10:18 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:

  looks like these bikes have a different fork crown than the prior
  canti models.  nice looking bike , that orange is just right ( I have
  one)... and I agree those cranksets are not my preference.

  ~Mike~

  On Jul 29, 7:08 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

   Great! Now I don't have to post pics of MY bike!

   Except for a SuginoXD2/Shimano LX Drivetrain with bar-ends and an
   Imperial saddle it's the same.

   I was going for a classic 70's/80's road bike look, so I actually like
   the fact that these Sam's have side-pulls.

   I'm sure the Ultegra group is fantastic, but I'm just still not crazy
   about the look of the crank.

   -Pete

   On Jul 29, 7:55 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles

   renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I've added a few pictures of a recently built 60cm Maxway Hillborne
to our RB Gallery.  This is a just arrived 2010 frameset from
Taiwan, hence the lack of canti mounts.

   http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/

Yes, this is an Ultegra 6700 bike ... the latest iteration of the
Ultegra line -- this time in ice grey.  A  few retrogrouches might
balk at the customer's drivetrain selection, but after test riding the
bike for a few miles, I certainly couldn't complain about the crisp
shifting.

Just let me know if you have any questions about the details of the
build.

Bryan- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] FS: B17 Narrow Brown

2010-07-29 Thread eflayer
Link to photo:

http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=detailsPageID=30SKU=SA1269

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[RBW] Re: madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread lukemcg
This is a good shop with decent rental selections situated on a bike
path and bike friendly streets:
http://www.machineryrowbicycles.com/index.php/rentals

Luke

On Jul 29, 12:44 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
 1. to travel by bike while in town
 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

 anyone know where I should look/talk to?

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] madison, wi

2010-07-29 Thread Glenn Ammons
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I were travelling to madison, wi for a little vacation and wanted:
 1. to travel by bike while in town
 2. to rent a non-crappy bike (or alternatively a tandem) while in town

 anyone know where I should look/talk to?

There's also the Budget Bicycle Center on Regent Street:

http://www.budgetbicyclectr.com/

There's no shortage of great bike shops in Madison!

--glenn
was Madison, WI, USA
now West Chester, PA, USA



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[RBW] FS: Paul Components Neo Retro Cantilever Brakes- Polished and Rack Adapter

2010-07-29 Thread Darren
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1870607304.html

I’m selling a bikes worth of these beautifully polished Paul
Components Neo Retro Cantilever Brakes. I mounted once but couldn’t
use them for my setup : ( , so they were never used and in new
condition. $100 each. Also selling Paul Component Rack Adapter $25
Cash and Carry. No Shipping. Thanks for looking.

San Francisco Bay Area only

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