Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper
hey thanks for the ehads up Im prob gonna try to contact them to see if they will ship, looks pretty good thanks again- Mike On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:05 AM, jlvota wrote: > I don't know how much you want to spend or if you would want to get > something shipped, but I saw this on Chicago cl this morning: > > http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bik/1970442015.html > > The size isn't stated, but it looks like it may be around what you are > looking for and appears to be in really good shape. > > > *No affiliation with seller > > On Sep 23, 11:15 am, Michael Williams > wrote: > > Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to > > sell. I know its a long > > shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper
I had an '86 Stumpjumper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/3921989102/ It looked so cool and rode so bad. Ryan On Sep 23, 1:41 pm, John Speare wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Michael Williams > > wrote: > > > Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to > > sell. I know its a long > > shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike > > > -- > > I have neither, but I'm curious what your goal is -- these bikes are > very different. The first generation stumpjumpers are super slack, > long chainstay, ultra turds with "specialized touring" steel. The 94 > MB1 is much steeper, super climber, fancy tubing, much faster > handling. > > -- > John Speare > Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper
Mike: On eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-TIME-SPECIALIZED-STUMPJUMPER-XL-MOUNTAIN-BIKE-/130434488911?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e805a4f This (I believe) was the largest size Stumpy available... On Sep 24, 9:05 am, jlvota wrote: > I don't know how much you want to spend or if you would want to get > something shipped, but I saw this on Chicago cl this morning: > > http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bik/1970442015.html > > The size isn't stated, but it looks like it may be around what you are > looking for and appears to be in really good shape. > > *No affiliation with seller > > On Sep 23, 11:15 am, Michael Williams > wrote: > > > > > Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to > > sell. I know its a long > > shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS Sam Hillborne 56cm Frame and Fork.
Dang I'm tempted by a Hillborne. I need to go to the bike shop again and test ride. Ryan On Sep 22, 7:50 am, Andrew wrote: > After getting a few emails asking for just the frame and fork, Bb, > headset and seatpost, I will sell those for $875. > > On Sep 21, 5:51 pm, Andrew wrote: > > > Selling my 56cm green Sam Hillborne frame. Was going to build it for > > my girlfriend but the standover does not work for her. I bought this > > Frame and fork recently from renaissance bikes and never actually > > built it up, just put it on two wheels to test the fit and it was too > > big. The frame was originally built up by Renaissance Bikes as a > > complete bike but never sold. It had a kinda nonstandard riv build so > > I bought just the frame and fork (including seatpost, headset, bottom > > bracket) , nitto canti mounted front rack, shimano r-550 cantilever > > brakes, pletscher adjustable kickstand, velo orange retro cage. I > > would be willing to sell the frame and fork and all the parts listed > > for $950. It looks new, I'm not sure if it was ridden at all when it > > was first built. You cant get the green frames anymore, nor single > > toptube hillbornes with canti mounts. The retail on all the parts and > > the frame and fork is over $1200. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More SimpleOne Samples
If I didn't have a Bombadil on the way, that 62 would be headin' for Chicago. If anyone here bites, please get the photos up on the Simpleone flickr group page! Marty On Sep 24, 6:04 pm, cm wrote: > "One of each size 58cm, 60cm, 62cm prototype SimpleOne frame, fork, > headset maroon paint $800 for cantilever brakes and 700c wheels." > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/quickbeamsimpleone-specials/53-011 > > WOW! > > Cheers! > cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeffrey wrote: > > Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping? > I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock > and would like to hear about actual experience with them. > I've used the Hennessy for the last 3 or 4 years. I like it for warm/hot camping. You can get an expensive quilted underblanket for it, but without it, I don't like using it when it's in the 40's or below, as a pad likes to slide around. So I'll bring the Hennessy for warm summer night camping. Alex Wetmore has refined the hammock set up to about 4 minutes. He keeps it in a tube with the under quilt attached. He also improved upon the knot/hanging solution. The only time I can beat him in the shelter set up is when I am using a bivvy, which is my favorite cold (under 45f or so) weather solution. His hanging solution is doc'd here: http://alexwetmore.org/?p=610 -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
I ride the 52 Ram, and a 50 Saluki. The top tubes are the same: 53 cm. I also would ride a 50 cm frame in a "normal" 700c wheeled bike. (I ride larger frames using 650B conversions, but that's another e-list entirely!) From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 7:32:28 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell One thing I find odd about Rambouillets is the odd ump in size. I am most comfortable on a 53 but should be fine on a 54. But the next size lower is not only 2cm smaller but also has 26" wheels which will cause a pretty big drop in standover height. So a 52 would definitely 100% be way to small. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
One thing I find odd about Rambouillets is the odd ump in size. I am most comfortable on a 53 but should be fine on a 54. But the next size lower is not only 2cm smaller but also has 26" wheels which will cause a pretty big drop in standover height. So a 52 would definitely 100% be way to small. Either way it's great to hear that it's as nice in person as the photo shows. The guys at Hiawatha were all fantastic to deal with. On Sep 24, 8:21 pm, EricP wrote: > Congrats! That's a very nice bike. Have had the opportunity to look > at it many times (am a regular at Hiawatha Cyclery). If my wife would > tolerate narrower tires and drop bars, might have purchased it for > her. Glad it is going to a good home. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Sep 24, 6:29 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > > > Great looking Ram!! I am doing Kojaks for tires so all black there > > and my saddle is black as well but I think I am going to do Celery > > tape with amber for the color. It's like a dark kiwi green. > > > On Sep 24, 5:55 pm, James Warren wrote: > > > > Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first posted the > > > photos, and it was a revelation. That bike is killer.-Original > > > Message- > > > From: Bruce > > > Sent: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a > > > Rivendelli:e:http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-7215761214... > > > :) > > > > From:James Warren > > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go > > > with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text > > > - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Congrats! That's a very nice bike. Have had the opportunity to look at it many times (am a regular at Hiawatha Cyclery). If my wife would tolerate narrower tires and drop bars, might have purchased it for her. Glad it is going to a good home. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sep 24, 6:29 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > Great looking Ram!! I am doing Kojaks for tires so all black there > and my saddle is black as well but I think I am going to do Celery > tape with amber for the color. It's like a dark kiwi green. > > On Sep 24, 5:55 pm, James Warren wrote: > > > > > Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first posted the photos, > > and it was a revelation. That bike is killer.-Original Message- > > From: Bruce > > Sent: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a > > Rivendelli:e:http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-7215761214... > > :) > > > From:James Warren > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go > > with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Abus Lock
Cerfs are gone. On Sep 24, 5:05 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I got these Grand Bois tires on here lightly used a month or so back. > I mounted them up to my RB-2 but then made a decision to sell the RB-2 > so I took them back off. They were in good shape when I got them and > I only put about 10 miles on them if that. 700C x 28. > > $55 shipped > > I also have an Abus lock I got from Rivendell. I mounted the holder on > my Bleriot thinking I would use it but I really don't. Pretty much > brand new. > > $50 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Great looking Ram!! I am doing Kojaks for tires so all black there and my saddle is black as well but I think I am going to do Celery tape with amber for the color. It's like a dark kiwi green. On Sep 24, 5:55 pm, James Warren wrote: > Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first posted the photos, > and it was a revelation. That bike is killer.-Original Message- > From: Bruce > Sent: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a > Rivendelli:e:http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/ > :) > > From:James Warren > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with > all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
I told you I'd read it and I did. Thanks! Two excellent bikes. The Atlantis is a spectacularly versatile bike, both in how you can set it up and in how you can use it. On Sep 24, 2:18 pm, jose wrote: > Ha, I meant the "tale" to be illustrated in the photo by how different > two Atlantises can be. > > But I'll bore you with the backstory since you're asking! > > I bought the black 58cm (700c) Atlantis used, about 3 years ago. It > has seen many a configuration - from 32mm paselas to 2.1" nanoraptors, > from fenders/racks/baskets to nothing. Lots of bike-geekery fun has > been had. > > This spring, I started looking for a 26" tourer to be used mainly on > dirt. I planned on doing a GDR trip this summer (but the universe had > other plans). After looking at many options, I was happy to discover > with my PBH of 85cm, I could fit the 56cm (26") atlantis. > > If I could get so much versatility out of one Atlantis, I thought two > would be great. I realize I could have gone lighter with a Homer or > heavier with Bombadil, but the middle-of-the-road Atlantis suits me > well. And like I said, I wanted 26" wheels. > > So I ordered my 56cm new. To dial it in before any big rides, I have > used it as my daily-driver with bags and racks on it, and a fairly > upright riding position. The 58cm is currently set up as the "fast" > bike, ie., for unloaded rides. > > The 56cm feels like a mountain goat, the 58cm a horse. > > The 56cm has Schwalbe Extremes 2.25". Although I purchased them for > being off the grid, I find they work well in the city too. They take > bumps really well of course, but they also don't feel slow. These big > fat 26" tires spin up/down quickly compared to my big fat 29" tires. > > Yep - I borrowed the term "farkle" from motorcycling, meaning > "accessories". Its a combination of "function" and "sparkle" I think. > I must have learned it during my brief flirtation with motorcycling, > before I came back to my senses and stuck with bikes. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] More SimpleOne Samples
"One of each size 58cm, 60cm, 62cm prototype SimpleOne frame, fork, headset maroon paint $800 for cantilever brakes and 700c wheels." http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/quickbeamsimpleone-specials/53-011 WOW! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: simpleone sample
Not sure if the one on the site has the magic dropouts, but the complete sample that came in a few weeks ago did. "Same neat-unique Quickbeam dropout that allows that." http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: simpleone sample
I don't know if it's "wrong" or not... But IIRC and if I understand the picture, it does not have the magic slanted rear dropout that would enable truly simple rear gear changes (i.e. you would not need to realign the rear brake after a change in tooth count). Does anyone else remember it that way? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Sep 22, 9:23 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > the one on frame specials page of the Riv site.. > Why is it still available?... > like, what's wrong with it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks
Both Sold, Sorry I couldn't get back to all of you... and thanks for your interest. I may have a regular Nitto Top Rack to sell soon. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
Btw, the cockpit is the same for both - 48cm noodle, interrupter levers, german mirror. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
Just a bump for the garage sale. I was at Riv HQ today. Jay asked me: "Hey, Bill. You comin' to the garage sale?" I said that yeah, I probably would make it. He said "You should. Lots of good stuff." Jay never divulges the details but has never steered me wrong. Sounds like the smart locals will be there. On Sep 24, 10:31 am, John Bennett wrote: > Hi, Mitch, > > The regular store will be open at the regular time (10am), but before > then, it's strictly the garage sale stuff. > > Hope that will work out. > > Cheers, > > John > > On Sep 23, 8:55 am, Mitch Browne wrote: > > > > > John, > > > Will will the regular store / goods be open and available for > > purchase too? > > > For instance I was hoping to pick up another bottle of El Duke and > > other odds ends. > > > On Sep 23, 5:55 am, John Bennett wrote: > > > > Hey, Mitch, > > > > Yep, cash. We're going to divide up the stuff by price point, post a > > > Riv employee in each area, and (like last time), you pay for what you > > > want in that section, and then move on to the next pile of stuff- with > > > your purchase, and minus your cash. > > > > It's a simple system. > > > > Of course, exceptions can be made for items exceeding $1000. I guess I > > > better check and see if we have any items exceeding $1000. > > > > Bottom line- Kash Is King! > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > On Sep 22, 7:30 pm, Mitch Browne wrote: > > > > > John, > > > > > The Riv site says cash only on the barrel head. Is that literally cash > > > > only or will you take plastic or checks. I'll have cash but not > > > > thousands ;) > > > > > I'll be driving up from San Luis Obispo Friday. > > > > > Cheers, Mitch > > > > > On Sep 22, 1:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > > But only if they give me a discount off list! > > > > > > On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to > > > > > > > act > > > > > > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > read it here. > > > > > > > Note to Grant or John <--- you can get Joel to pay you to > > > > > > let him buy a bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Ah, it was yours. I remember seeing that when you first posted the photos, and it was a revelation. That bike is killer. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sent: Sep 24, 2010 2:35 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell i:e:http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/:) From: James Warren For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 14:35 -0700, Bruce wrote: > i:e: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/ > > :) > > > > __ > From: James Warren > > > For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you > go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. Looks good with the blue, but it might just be a bit over the top Halloweenish for an orange/creamsicle one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
i:e: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190/ :) From: James Warren For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. For some reason, tan looks really good with the Hilsen blue (original darker one), but tan doesn't look so good to me with the Rambouillet blue. -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien > > Now I just need to figure out what color cloth tape to use. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
I heartily commend your new acquisition :) From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 3:39:45 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was super great. I am very anxious to get it and I even have a long ride coming up in Oct for the American Diabetes Association that I will have this in time for. Jim is going to put some Silver DT shifters on it for me and a set of Schwalbe Kojaks. Now I just need to figure out what color cloth tape to use. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9RnZqOrJ5rY/S6o1463_DOI/AiY/dp_gkdZsbAo/s1600/rambouillet54.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Johnny, That is great. I was encouraging the Roadeo, but when you mentioned that price difference, I realized that you are getting tremendous bike for such a deal. The Rambouillet is one of the best road bikes ever made, and you're going to love it. In fact, the only thing that kept me from getting a Roadeo is that I already had a Rambouillet. Riding a Rambouillet lightly loaded for a couple day motel tour is riding heaven. Here, you'll see room for a couple days of clothes in the foppish tweed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4228790514/in/set-72157623101578234/ -Original Message- >From: Johnny Alien >Sent: Sep 24, 2010 1:39 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell > >So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was >super great. I am very anxious to get it and I even have a long ride >coming up in Oct for the American Diabetes Association that I will >have this in time for. Jim is going to put some Silver DT shifters on >it for me and a set of Schwalbe Kojaks. Now I just need to figure out >what color cloth tape to use. > >http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9RnZqOrJ5rY/S6o1463_DOI/AiY/dp_gkdZsbAo/s1600/rambouillet54.jpg > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
Ha, I meant the "tale" to be illustrated in the photo by how different two Atlantises can be. But I'll bore you with the backstory since you're asking! I bought the black 58cm (700c) Atlantis used, about 3 years ago. It has seen many a configuration - from 32mm paselas to 2.1" nanoraptors, from fenders/racks/baskets to nothing. Lots of bike-geekery fun has been had. This spring, I started looking for a 26" tourer to be used mainly on dirt. I planned on doing a GDR trip this summer (but the universe had other plans). After looking at many options, I was happy to discover with my PBH of 85cm, I could fit the 56cm (26") atlantis. If I could get so much versatility out of one Atlantis, I thought two would be great. I realize I could have gone lighter with a Homer or heavier with Bombadil, but the middle-of-the-road Atlantis suits me well. And like I said, I wanted 26" wheels. So I ordered my 56cm new. To dial it in before any big rides, I have used it as my daily-driver with bags and racks on it, and a fairly upright riding position. The 58cm is currently set up as the "fast" bike, ie., for unloaded rides. The 56cm feels like a mountain goat, the 58cm a horse. The 56cm has Schwalbe Extremes 2.25". Although I purchased them for being off the grid, I find they work well in the city too. They take bumps really well of course, but they also don't feel slow. These big fat 26" tires spin up/down quickly compared to my big fat 29" tires. Yep - I borrowed the term "farkle" from motorcycling, meaning "accessories". Its a combination of "function" and "sparkle" I think. I must have learned it during my brief flirtation with motorcycling, before I came back to my senses and stuck with bikes. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Grand Bois Cerf Tires & Abus Lock
I got these Grand Bois tires on here lightly used a month or so back. I mounted them up to my RB-2 but then made a decision to sell the RB-2 so I took them back off. They were in good shape when I got them and I only put about 10 miles on them if that. 700C x 28. $55 shipped I also have an Abus lock I got from Rivendell. I mounted the holder on my Bleriot thinking I would use it but I really don't. Pretty much brand new. $50 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
So I picked up the rambouillet. I worked with Jim at Hiawatha who was super great. I am very anxious to get it and I even have a long ride coming up in Oct for the American Diabetes Association that I will have this in time for. Jim is going to put some Silver DT shifters on it for me and a set of Schwalbe Kojaks. Now I just need to figure out what color cloth tape to use. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9RnZqOrJ5rY/S6o1463_DOI/AiY/dp_gkdZsbAo/s1600/rambouillet54.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?
I use a Hennessy for camping. The link below has an image it set up with the larger 'hex' fly. I've found that, at least here in Hawaii, the larger fly isn't really necessary so I use the regular one for the most part. The weight isn't that important to me but the smaller one packs up smaller as it all fits in the 'snake skin.' Because it's generally so warm here I use a one of those cheap fleece bags which roll up about the size of a football. The only complaint I have is that sometimes I used to wake up with a cold back because there isn't much between you and the air. I've taken to carrying one of those small silvery windshield shades to use as a pad. They weigh next to nothing and make a great insulator. Since I discovered that trick I've been quite happy. Indeed just writing about this makes me want to take off for the weekend. :-) I won't be able to this weekend though because on Sunday I'll be in the Honolulu Century Ride on my Quickbeam. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/4304294797/ Aloha! Bob On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jeffrey wrote: > Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping? > I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock > and would like to hear about actual experience with them. > > Jeff > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB.... Nitto S-83 Seatpost
If anyone has a used S-83 seatpost for sale, or one they don't need or want . I'm in need of one. I've changed to shorter cranks from 185's to 175 and my Campy post is too short. Maybe someone sees one at the garage sale? I don't need a pristine one, just one that works and has decent bolts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone hear ever use a camping hammock?
I use a hammock regularly while biking and hiking. Last year I used a Hennessy (with a larger tarp) while touring Banff and Jasper National Parks. I then switched to a Warbonnet Blackbird double layer 1.1oz hammock, and now I have since switched to a homemade double-layer hammock and bug-net. The Hennessy is a nice, solid, and well-made hammock, but I prefer top entry over bottom entry. The Warbonnet Blackbird is an excellent hammock and gets great reviews on the Hammock forums (linked below), but I prefer my homemade hammock over all others because I made it and also because it is just as comfortable as the Warbonnet. If you have any sewing skills, even if your skills are poor like mine, making your own can be satisfying. To get the latest information on hammock camping and ideas, check these forums: http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/index.php On Sep 23, 10:15 pm, Jeffrey wrote: > Has anyone here aver used a camping hammock for touring or camping? > I've been considering a Clark Jungle Hammock or the Hennessy Hammock > and would like to hear about actual experience with them. > > Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
What tires do you have on the 56 (559 wheels)? Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
I believe we can surmise from the use of "farkle" that Jose rides a motorcycle also. :) (At least that's where I heard the word.) farkles = accessories, typically cool ones. Rob in Seattle On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:05 AM, William wrote: And what's a farkle? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Complete Nitto Albatross Cockpit, Technomic Stem, DuraAce Bar-End Shifters, DiaCompe Brake Levers, Cables, Cork Grips, Brass Bell
sold On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Curtis Schmitt wrote: > I am selling the cockpit from my 59cm Romulus: http://tinyurl.com/2wnuxqd > > I purchased it with Albatross bars and while I really love them for > around town and like them for commuting, they haven't been working > well for me on 15+ mile loaded rides which is primarily what I want to > use the bike for now. I need the leverage of drops and to tuck away > from the wind for distance rides, so I'm converting to what I know and > love: Nitto Noodles. > > This package includes: > Nitto Albatross Handlebars - $68 > (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-albatross-aluminum-bar/16-127) > Nitto Technomic Stem, 26.0 x 120mm - $52 > (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-technomic-standard/16-047) > DiaCompe SC-7 Brake Levers - $20 (could not find link) > 9sp Shimano Bar-End Shifters "Light Action" - $92.00 > (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/shimano-bar-end-shifters/17-098) > Cork grips, possibly from VO - $10.50 > (http://www.velo-orange.com/corkgrips.html) > All x-long brake and shifter cables plus gray Jagwire L3 hoses, > required for Albatross - $30 > (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/long-shifter-cable-and-housing-kit/17-136) > Brass Bell - $15 (http://www.velo-orange.com/jabrbe.html) > Total new = $287.50 > > I'm asking $160 shipped to CONUS paid via PayPal. I can ship out first > thing Monday AM via FedEx Ground. > > I am 95% sure these are the aluminum Albatross bars, and that the > Technomic is 120mm +/- 10mm. I am selling the stem because it will > definitely be too long for me once I put drops on. I did lay the bike > down once in the rain, so there are scrapes on the right bar-end > shifter. It wasn't a terrible crash, and there was no damage aside > from the aesthetic blemishes on the right shifter. Hopefully this is > fairly reflected in my asking price for the set-up. I will try to > confirm all specs above and take detailed photos of right bar-end > shifter, if this hasn't sold yet. > > Please reply off-list. > > Thanks, > Curtis > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Atlantises
If you have a tale to tell about them, I'd read it. Did you buy them both new, deliberately wanting these two different bikes? How different did you want them to be, expect them to be? Did you set them up deliberately from the ground up to make them be different? Did it work out exactly as you intended, or were there surprises? When do you ride the 700C one? When do you choose the 26" one? And what's a farkle? On Sep 24, 10:34 am, jose wrote: > My two Atlantises: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/5020392429/ > > A study in the difference tires, stems, wheels size, farkle, etc can > make. > > I love them both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] A Tale of Two Atlantises
My two Atlantises: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/5020392429/ A study in the difference tires, stems, wheels size, farkle, etc can make. I love them both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Reminder: Garage Sale and Ride
Hi, Mitch, The regular store will be open at the regular time (10am), but before then, it's strictly the garage sale stuff. Hope that will work out. Cheers, John On Sep 23, 8:55 am, Mitch Browne wrote: > John, > > Will will the regular store / goods be open and available for > purchase too? > > For instance I was hoping to pick up another bottle of El Duke and > other odds ends. > > On Sep 23, 5:55 am, John Bennett wrote: > > > Hey, Mitch, > > > Yep, cash. We're going to divide up the stuff by price point, post a > > Riv employee in each area, and (like last time), you pay for what you > > want in that section, and then move on to the next pile of stuff- with > > your purchase, and minus your cash. > > > It's a simple system. > > > Of course, exceptions can be made for items exceeding $1000. I guess I > > better check and see if we have any items exceeding $1000. > > > Bottom line- Kash Is King! > > > Cheers, > > > John > > > On Sep 22, 7:30 pm, Mitch Browne wrote: > > > > John, > > > > The Riv site says cash only on the barrel head. Is that literally cash > > > only or will you take plastic or checks. I'll have cash but not > > > thousands ;) > > > > I'll be driving up from San Luis Obispo Friday. > > > > Cheers, Mitch > > > > On Sep 22, 1:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > But only if they give me a discount off list! > > > > > On Sep 22, 3:24 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:21 PM, JoelMatthews > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Well, if they have a 58 650B Hilsen on sale and someone wants to act > > > > > > as my buyer, I am good for a percentage of the savings off list. > > > > > > You > > > > > > read it here. > > > > > > Note to Grant or John <--- you can get Joel to pay you to > > > > > let him buy a bike :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Complete Nitto Albatross Cockpit, Technomic Stem, DuraAce Bar-End Shifters, DiaCompe Brake Levers, Cables, Cork Grips, Brass Bell
I am selling the cockpit from my 59cm Romulus: http://tinyurl.com/2wnuxqd I purchased it with Albatross bars and while I really love them for around town and like them for commuting, they haven't been working well for me on 15+ mile loaded rides which is primarily what I want to use the bike for now. I need the leverage of drops and to tuck away from the wind for distance rides, so I'm converting to what I know and love: Nitto Noodles. This package includes: Nitto Albatross Handlebars - $68 (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-albatross-aluminum-bar/16-127) Nitto Technomic Stem, 26.0 x 120mm - $52 (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-technomic-standard/16-047) DiaCompe SC-7 Brake Levers - $20 (could not find link) 9sp Shimano Bar-End Shifters "Light Action" - $92.00 (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/shimano-bar-end-shifters/17-098) Cork grips, possibly from VO - $10.50 (http://www.velo-orange.com/corkgrips.html) All x-long brake and shifter cables plus gray Jagwire L3 hoses, required for Albatross - $30 (http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/long-shifter-cable-and-housing-kit/17-136) Brass Bell - $15 (http://www.velo-orange.com/jabrbe.html) Total new = $287.50 I'm asking $160 shipped to CONUS paid via PayPal. I can ship out first thing Monday AM via FedEx Ground. I am 95% sure these are the aluminum Albatross bars, and that the Technomic is 120mm +/- 10mm. I am selling the stem because it will definitely be too long for me once I put drops on. I did lay the bike down once in the rain, so there are scrapes on the right bar-end shifter. It wasn't a terrible crash, and there was no damage aside from the aesthetic blemishes on the right shifter. Hopefully this is fairly reflected in my asking price for the set-up. I will try to confirm all specs above and take detailed photos of right bar-end shifter, if this hasn't sold yet. Please reply off-list. Thanks, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Salt Lake City Bicycle Commuter Hub
Turns out to be somewhat Riv specific, as I will be riding my purty green Racing Riv Ram at the grand opening ride this Saturday. I'll try to take some pics. Hope to see you there, Darin. pic from the Salt to Saint relay in Utah last weekend: http://picasaweb.google.com/bykmor/SaturdayCycles#5518991367388317442 BykMor from Saturday Cycles On Sep 23, 5:37 pm, "Darin G." wrote: > I know this isn't Riv specific but a cool story about the new bike > commuter hub in downtown Salt Lake City. > > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50342926-76/bike-center-canyon-says... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB Bridgestone MB-1 or Mid 80's Stumpjumper
I don't know how much you want to spend or if you would want to get something shipped, but I saw this on Chicago cl this morning: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bik/1970442015.html The size isn't stated, but it looks like it may be around what you are looking for and appears to be in really good shape. *No affiliation with seller On Sep 23, 11:15 am, Michael Williams wrote: > Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 or mid 80's Stumpjumper they want to > sell. I know its a long > shot, but giving it a try. 22"or 23" frame. Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Fender clearance
Mine is a 52 with 26" wheels. I run 37s in it (no 38s made for 26" afaik) and there is a bit of room left. I don't know of a 34 or 35 in 26" to try the fenders with, hence my comment about using them successfully with 32s. From: Johnny Alien To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 9:32:03 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Fender clearance http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/ That page has tons of information. There is not much info on the smaller sizes though. Those used 26" wheels I believe and I don't see any widths mentioned for anything other than the 700C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.