[RBW] Re: Riv Branding
That's me, I think. I abbreviate Quickbeam QB, but I've never said that. Out on a ride a couple weeks ago someone did say, A Rivendell Quickbeam! Which seems like what it is. And how could you NOT say Hunqapillar every chance you got? Philip On Aug 6, 4:20 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I only abbreviate on the web when I wrote because I am lazy. In real life I always say the full name. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help - can't ride for the lack of a bolt
It takes a little while to dial in the angle of drop bars, and set the hoods to the perfect height. They affect each other, but riding around with untaped bars and a tool usually works. Cable routing can affect your grip, especially with cotton tape. I just retaped some bars, replacing cork tape with cotton, and find that I really want to move the cable, because the nice 'shelf' has become a sharp edge under the new tape. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Aug 6, 1:04 pm, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: OK - jet lag and bike assembly is not a good combo. It took a 45 minute ride on my old bike and some blueberry pancakes for me to figure out for myself what Patrick suggested - take any bolt that fits, a couple of washers and vioala ... my 1st ride on a Rivendell :) Actually my 1st time riding a decent road bike of any kind. Impressions so far are: 1. This is a very high quality bike - much better than anything else I've riden, and 2. Drop bars are going to take some getting used to. I've got them nice and high, but there are a lot of adjustments, decisions, etc. I ride almost every day and have for years. With this set up I feel I a total newbie. So many new to me things - drop bars, bar end shfters, Rivenell sizing. I've got a 6 day solo tour planned starting the week after next. Hope I've got some of the kinks worked out by then. Thanks for all the help. On Aug 6, 12:48 pm, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: I've been up since 4 after a 16 hour flight yesterday, excited to put my new to me Sam together and take it for a test ride. It's almost done but I can't ride it because the bike shop failed to include the bolt that keeps the seat post from slipping in to the frame. Do I just walk into a local shop and ask for a generic seat post binder bolt? 5mm? 6mm? What do I tell them? I could bring the bike down there but the logistics of that are more than I care to deal with at the moment. I would ride it, but ... you see the problem. I'm sure this is an easy fix and I am hoping to avoid a wild goose chase for the wrong bolt. Anybody? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: inherited rivendale bike- Atlantis
Kathy, You might be able to get a very good idea on the price for the bicycle by going to: College Park Bicycles 4360 Knox Road College Park MD 20740 301-864-2211 They have an extensive list of bicycles on consignment and have sold many Rivendells. Bruce On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kathy, Unfortunately these bikes don't have much info on them (no size stickers or anything like that), there should be a serial number on the bottom and if you call Rivendell they might be able to match it to the original receipt which would help you catalog the bike for sale, and ballpark a price. As Seth said you can do some rudimetry measuring, and pictures will help folks guess. Also, listing your husbands dimensions (height) will help folks guess too. I suggested standover as the easiest b/c the only two atlanti with similar standover are the 56 and 58 and you can tell one from the other b/c of the wheel size, instantly. After that the 58 and 61 look different b/c of the head tube size and the 64 is obviously the biggest. Unless this is a fairly old one in 66 or 68 but even then the standover will be obvious. Also standover height is easiest and least-finicky to measure. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Wheel weight, or more specifically rim/tire weight matters more than other parts because in addition to moving forward or up a hill, the weight also must move upward as the rim rolls. A hundred grams, 4 oz off each tire, and another 4 off each rim and you have a total difference of one 1 lb of rolling weight. Most riders will find the difference quite noticable. I ride 38 Avocet Cross tires with Mavic G4 rims on my Ebisu All purpose; 32 mm Pasella folding tires with Arraya rims on my Trek 620, currently 23 mm Continentals with open pro rims on my Rambouillet; and Specialized tubulars on my classic Marinoni. The Ebisu weighs about 5 lbs more than the Rambouillet and the Marinoni, which when added to my 190 lb body doesn't make much difference. At cruising speed all of these tires feel fine; but when it comes to climbing hills or sprinting for a traffic light, each one performs noticeably different. When I'm riding on dirt I will almost always choose the Avocet and never choose the continentals. But if I have long climbs ahead give me open pro rims and a light weight tire. Ditto for sprinting to a traffic light. A recent poster, here, reviewed a Schwabe tire that is 2.35 inches and liked the cushiness but sounded surprised that the tires felt sluggish. I looked at the Schwabe web site a saw that those tires weigh 890 grams each. Of course they are sluggish. peace, michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fELTMiKaPZMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 05:01 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: Wheel weight, or more specifically rim/tire weight matters more than other parts because in addition to moving forward or up a hill, the weight also must move upward as the rim rolls. A hundred grams, 4 oz off each tire, and another 4 off each rim and you have a total difference of one 1 lb of rolling weight. Most riders will find the difference quite noticable. http://forums.roadbikereview.com/wheels-tires/rotating-weight-debunking-myth-132875.html http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3t=57554start=15 http://gearmyths.blogspot.com/2011/03/rotating-mass-doesnt-matter.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_performance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Catalogs
I don't have that shuffle to trade or sell anymore (it's gone) but I do still have all of the catalogs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yOSvrbwqfoQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: inherited rivendale bike- Atlantis
Kathy, I don't see a way to email you, so I will post here. I work in Alexandria and I drive there at least twice a week. I would be happy to take some measurements and photos of the bike, and look it over in general for purposes of your advertising it. If you would like to contact me, you may email me at alkiremx5 at verizon dot net. Best of luck, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VtuVIy2MT88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Some new bits on the LongLow
I put a few new/different things on the LongLow: TRP brake levers, new bar tape, and Dura Ace bar-end shifters to replace the Silvers (one broken and both had cables seized up in them). Not sure I got color combos, contrast, and complementarity right here, but it works for me (though I am not fussy). Pic here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/6017878228/in/photostream Forrest (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ao_OU9n90toJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: brand new GB Lierre 650B x 38mm for GB Cypres
Four months old, never mounted, would like to try Cypres. Willing to trade for new or lightly used pair. Both models are $64 ea, new. I'll pay shipping. Brett -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O4OGflON4WoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS~ Brooks Saddles, Nitto Post
The following have been sold: B.66 B.72 Champion Flyer Nitto seatpost If anybody wants the Pro, I'll drop the price to $225, shipped. Thanks, - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2mQFKjrYnhsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
I think the colors go well together. How do you like the TRP brake levers? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FE4zocz3togJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
Jury's still out on the TRP levers, but only one 20-mile ride on them so far! I think I should have placed them back/up on the bars a bit. I did raise my stem another cm now and titled the bars up just a little to get the ramps more horizontal. I'll report back after another 100 miles or so. -- FM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IhRVj2DA26gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Last training ride before PBP - a set on Flickr
Yay for 7-speed friction shifting! On Aug 6, 10:36 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Ric content: riding lugged steel and leather, friction shifting a 7-speed freewheel. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627248430965/ Looking forward to returning to France for another ride through the Rambouillet forest! --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
Gorgeous bike. The colors complement each other well. I love your frame's color scheme. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8qRlc8H_hhcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
Yes, I was going to ask if that was a stock color at the time, or custom? Very nice-looking bike. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AhGO03yYDgoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
Steve, I am not the original owner of this LongLow, which was built in 1999. So I don't know if this is a stock or custom color -- and it could be kind of hard to tell from my photography. -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mig9DNtFUS0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some new bits on the LongLow
OK, thanks anyway. I'm not in the market for paint right now, but I'm always looking! A color like that would be high on my list. Enjoy your bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TJjU1DTjiPEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Assembly
Hi eveyone, this is my first post. I don't own a Rivendell just yet; I'm still in the process of (patiently) saving up for an AHH or a Sam. I'm constantly on their website to explore and learn. I'm not too keen on the various components so I'll take whatever the folks at Rivendell suggests..when the time comes to order. Currently, I ride a Trek 7100 (hybrid) which I bought about a year ago...I love to ride! For those who have done it, how easy/complicated was it to assemble your Riv yourself? I'm somewhat mechanically inclined and armed with just basic tools. The only other bikes I've assembled was my daughters' bikes and my wife's Schwinn bike ordered from LLBean. I've also watched Riv's Youtube video (several times) of one of their bikes being assembled. They make it look easy..but then again, the guy's a pro! Would assembling an AHH/Sam be any more complicated than assembling, say, my wife's Schwinn bike? Also, will the folks from Riv instruct me as to the proper height of the saddle and stem? I'll would be greatful for any insight and information on this subject. thanks all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's the shortest stem that you would use?
I use a 7cm stem on my Hillborne and a dirt drop on my Jamis Aurora, which is effectively quite short and don't notice a decrease in stability at all from the longer stems I have used previously. It has been my experience that the width of your handlebars has more to do with perceived front end stability than stem length. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/afLLiOxXP5YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] !st Rivendell - Thank You Forrest and Bikeman
Today I finally got to ride the frameset I bought from Forrest about a month ago. It was built up for my by Bikeman in Bath Maine and as far as I can tell they did a great job. They were very patient with me during the process of specing, changing and respecing everything, and their prices were more than fair. Absolutely no hassles dealing with Forrest either. The frameset was delivered exatly when and how he said it would be, and the few scratches he pointed out before the sale turned out to be even smaller than I expected. I'll save the extra nail polish for future beusage. Only got a short ride in this morning after a little frustration with the assembly. Mostly due to stupidity brought on by lack of sleep. 1st time on a road bike so a bit awkward. Hopefully I'll be able to adjust before tackling the Green Mountain loop solo the week after next. 44 years old and I still don;t have the sense to come in out of the rain (figuratively this week with the nice weather, but literally too). Hope I never do. Thanks to everyone here for all your help, and for any tips, suggestions and words of encouragement you may chose to offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: 7 cm Nitto Technomic for 8 or 9 cm
Hey all, The subject line sums it up: I want a couple more centimeters of reach, but don't want to fork out the dough for a new stem. My 7 cm Standard is used, but less than one year old. I might also consider a trade for a solid CrMo quill with the right dimensions. - Zach Moab, UT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cycling in style
The outfits look nice but it looks hot where that many layers of clothes on in spring conditions. I would be sweating alot if I were tweed in those conditions. K On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Check out this video on YouTube. More wool and steel than you can shake a bike at ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rPnNWHcgofeature=youtube_gdata_player Maybe there's a Rivendell HQ tweed ride somewhere in the future? --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Attention tall riders
I'll slowly be clearing out some big bikes over the next couple of months. Anybody interested can check seller i.d. rgz4ams on e-bay. They are mostly pretty nice examples, but I've decided to go w/ custom builders for all future purposes (aside from Riv). Thanks! RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?
So I raised the bars a bit. It definitely helped to make me feel less stretched out. I also noticed that my center of gravity was shifted back on the bike and that I had less weight on the bars and more on the seat. Didn't make a noticeable difference in speed- I'm still a slug. I'm going to live with the bike for a few weeks before doing anything else. I am also thinking about rechecking my fore-aft saddle position. I have a road bike that I feel very comfortable on. The distance from the nose of the saddle to the center of the bars is the same on my Litespeed and my AHH. The Litespeed has a straight seatpost and the AHH has a set back seatpost. This makes me wonder if I am in the right place over the pedals. Lots of variables! Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/innoOsVO8g4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Attention tall riders
any preview of what you are going to be putting up? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ug8gqXa9Im0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?
Be sure to gauge the saddle setback independently of reach to saddle IOW, don't try to adjust reach by setback -- setback is a starting point because it determines your power and comfort wrt the immovable bb. On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Solomander soloman...@aol.com wrote: So I raised the bars a bit. It definitely helped to make me feel less stretched out. I also noticed that my center of gravity was shifted back on the bike and that I had less weight on the bars and more on the seat. Didn't make a noticeable difference in speed- I'm still a slug. I'm going to live with the bike for a few weeks before doing anything else. I am also thinking about rechecking my fore-aft saddle position. I have a road bike that I feel very comfortable on. The distance from the nose of the saddle to the center of the bars is the same on my Litespeed and my AHH. The Litespeed has a straight seatpost and the AHH has a set back seatpost. This makes me wonder if I am in the right place over the pedals. Lots of variables! Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/innoOsVO8g4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Assembly
Hey Noel - Couple of thoughts: Rivendell has a Build Fee of $210 if you get the bike sent to you the way that you see in the YouTube video. This, to me, was worth it, as I knew that they were going to have everything set up perfectly. The assembly that you have see in the video will be well within your skill set, it's easy peezy. If you decide to just get all the parts through them, the build will take longer/more experience. Not to say you couldn't do it, but it would probably take you some time as you were doing it the first time yourself. For people that are experienced mechanics the build fee wouldn't make sense. I knew it would take me a day or two to build it myself, and it's worth $210 to me to have it done perfectly and save me that time. I am sure they can give you tips on saddle and stem height. The experience of talking through options with them couldn't be better, in my experience. They are always really helpful and committed to getting you on a bike that you will love and that will fit you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/r_fvTnIbW3QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Assembly
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Noel M. emarcel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi eveyone, this is my first post. Welcome! For those who have done it, how easy/complicated was it to assemble your Riv yourself? Easy. Would assembling an AHH/Sam be any more complicated than assembling, say, my wife's Schwinn bike? No; if anything easier unless your wife's Schwinn was a single speed model. And good bikes are a lot easier to work on than cheap bikes. Also, will the folks from Riv instruct me as to the proper height of the saddle and stem? Sure; ask them. Be sure to get saddle in right place (up/down, fore/aft) before adjusting stem and bar. I'll would be greatful for any insight and information on this subject. There is always, or usually, a period of adjustment with a new bike; even after 40+ years of assembling my own bicycles I don't get everything exactly right the first time -- tho' as you gain more experience you will also, probably, become more picky about fit. So, get it as good as you can, and then ride it and adjust as you feel it necessary. Good luck, and post photos. thanks all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Tools
Had to take a photo of my favorite tool: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/6018420311/in/photostream/ Maybe I should just admit that my fingers qualify as a favorite tool, especially when they are used with the above. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aKoAblIRgt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: brand new GB Lierre 650B x 38mm for GB Cypres
Trade pending. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VDyFeVgiO7sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Attention tall riders
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37423935@N00/2958894809/ :-) On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: any preview of what you are going to be putting up? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ug8gqXa9Im0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Attention tall riders
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:43 AM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I'll slowly be clearing out some big bikes over the next couple of months. Anybody interested can check seller i.d. rgz4ams on e-bay. They are mostly pretty nice examples, but I've decided to go w/ custom builders for all future purposes (aside from Riv). For folks looking for it: http://shop.ebay.com/rgz4ams/m.html I think that should be the right link. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Assembly
Putting a bike together is immensely enjoyable. You should take on the challenge! Bottom bracket and headset are the only things you might want to ask them to install as they take specialized tools. Everything else on the bike is mostly done w/ a 5 or 6mm hex wrench! Adjusting the derailers and cable tension will probably be your only tough spot and I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice from us if you can't get past that stage! :-) On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 12:05 PM, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote: When I bought my SimpleOne, I decided to build it up myself so I was familiar with everything on the Bike and to teach myself to be self sufficient on repairs. I am still fairly new to building and working on my own bikes and this helped me a ton. Instead of paying for the build fee, I took that money and bought a workstand, the needed tools and winged it. Took a little longer but I definitely learned allot in the Process. It was well worth a few headaches along the way but very satisfying in the end. It did help having RBWHQ a stones throw away from my office. Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rYG9xAX46_gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Assembly
Noel, IF you are mechanically-inclined and would like to get to know your bike and come away with an extra sense of accomplishment, I would second Dustin's recommendation to assemble the whole thing yourself. I've picked up these skills and tools over the years of riding and being interested in bikes in general, even to the extent of having my own bike repair business at one point. But Dustin is correct; for the $200+ build fee, you can just as easily buy a workstand and tools. In the end, you have a bike you've built yourself, some good tools, good knowledge, and the pride of having done it. So if money is worth more than time, please consider it.Also, there are many online resources for bike repair/assembly. Including, of course, this forum. Best of luck, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qbxILC4ZwOgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Berkeley, Dark Green Bombadil, and Jitensha
Down in Berkeley over the weekend, saw a guy my age in lycra in Rasputin's records... then spotted same chap grinding up Telegraph on a very classic looking dark green Bombadil. Wonder who that could be? Then spent a half hour with Hiroshi at Jitensha - - like Rivendell WHQ, Jitensha is one of the nicest places in the world to spend time and plan your next bicycle purchase. Minor Rivendell content photos below - - Bob Jackson with Keven's Bag http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627265755734/ cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I think a wide (40mm) plush, low rolling resistance and durable tire is the thing that's hugely missing from the 559 tire size! There should be a 26 Hetre!!! Instead of doing 650B conversions on 700C bikes, getting plush-tire conversion for 26 mountain bikes should be all the rage! I bet more people have a MTB from the 90's hanging in their garage than a skinny-tired 700C bike! Rant for the day. On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:57 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Garth; will have to keep those in mind. I don't mind heavy wheels, but I do mind -- greatly -- sluggish tires, and there are definite differences. FWIW, list, I have a pair of almost unused Specialized Hemisphere 38s for sale Cheap! because the puncture resistant belt, well, you know Make offers! On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have them in the 622 Patrick. I'm with you about the Pasela tires...if you want low rolling resistant tiresthose ain't it! The Metro K's are. They're great at 35mm in that they roll fast AND have some cushion as long as you're at 70-75psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JMARaPKULLgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 16:37 -0400, Steven Frederick wrote: I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! It's a funny thing about those Paselas - some love them (and you can include me in that group) but some loathe, hate and despise them with a passion. Performance seems to be highly variable, and I'm not at all sure for what reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?
If you think about it, a 2cm shorter stem with the noodles would move the hoods back only a bit more than switching to the shorter reach Mark's bars. So I don't think there'd be any difference in handling there, especially if you're talking about handling while your hands are on the hoods or drops. If raising the bars doesn't offer sufficient improvement, Id go by this: if you like the long flat ramp of the Noodles for resting your hands on, get a shorter stem and maybe narrower Noodles. If you usually ride on the hoods anyway, maybe try the Mark's bars. (which will not have as flat a ramp nor will the hooks be nearly parallel to the ramps, so they would feel quite different...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xUtvl96_fDAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Last training ride before PBP - a set on Flickr
Good luck on PBP. I'm looking forward to your video of the ride. jim m wc ca On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Ric content: riding lugged steel and leather, friction shifting a 7-speed freewheel. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627248430965/ Looking forward to returning to France for another ride through the Rambouillet forest! --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: !st Rivendell - Thank You Forrest and Bikeman
Congratulations! I know how you feel (sort of). What model did you get? We want photos, of course. Best wishes, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pQn0GNQYmBEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Assembly
I rode a Trek 7300 for a year or so (and over several eras of a couple years each, a few other Treks) and had never done *any* work on a bike ever. I bought a Samuel Hillborne and wheels over a year ago and, after spraying the frame's insides with rust-protectant and letting that steep a couple days, built it up over a weekend. I am *marginally* mechanically inclined. I made several mistakes that required me to re-do things along the way. But nothing meaningly harmful. I was riding my new bike a week after I got the frameset (two days of actual building up). In my case (and probably in yours; ask RBW to confirm) my frameset came with the headset installed (not adjusted). Already-installed headset is good; I think installing a headset would be a little tricky for a layman without specialized tools that cost scores of dollars. But *everything else* is *very* doable by a layman. Some things will require special tools (at least: housing cutters, bottom bracket tool). And a set of Allen wrenches will be essential. But nothing that costs oodles of money or takes particular skill to use If you are mechanically inclined, are generally engineer-y, are willing to spend *some* money on tools and supplies, and are *interested*, then you will greatly benefit from putting it together yourself. I've put 5,000 miles on my Hillborne and have not discovered *anything* I've done wrong except that I misadjusted the derailer before the first time I rode it and as a result the chain came off; temporarily disappointing but I was able to fix it in 30 minutes and continued my ride. Nothing since. Putting together a quality bike like a Rivendell production frameset is indeed easy. If you *aren't* interested in how your bike goes together and fully intend to have your local bike shop fix anything that goes wrong that's more serious than a flat tire... then RBW's $200-ish assembly fee (maybe somewhat higher now; check!) is a *great* deal. Given their expertise and care and interest, it'd be worth $400 in my book. (Disclosure: my local bike shops have all disappointed me; perhaps I'm bitter.) And it's fine if that's how you view your bike; you own it, it doesn't own you. Enjoy! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who is getting a second Sam frameset and will build it up himself -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3YI7elqdRtMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make
Add me to the list of those who like them. Only reason don't have a pair on a bike right now is some mysterious flatting where I can't find what is the cause. Time to get out a cotton ball and see if that works. Personally I don't ride supple tires and or light wheels. So am the wrong person to give opinions about it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 7, 3:42 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 16:37 -0400, Steven Frederick wrote: I've been running non-TG Paselas 26X1.75 tires on my XO this year. They're pretty plush and fast. Maybe not quite Hetres but nearly as big and nearly as nice...cheap, too! It's a funny thing about those Paselas - some love them (and you can include me in that group) but some loathe, hate and despise them with a passion. Performance seems to be highly variable, and I'm not at all sure for what reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Assembly
Agree with the others, if you feel like it's something you'd like to try, then it's not a bad investment to get the tools and a stand. I did that for my Sam Hillborne. Spent a day in the garage putting things together. Now, the end product did not look as nice and neat as what comes out of Rivendell. So that is a downgrade. But as it was my first full build, it was fun. Besides the Rivendell videos other places like Park Tools also have repair/building videos. I also invested in the Park Tool Blue Book which comes in handy from time to time. Personally, would love to be able to spend the extra money and buy a bike built up from the good folks in Walnut Creek. Not sure it will ever happen. However, it is a nice wish. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 7, 5:33 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: I rode a Trek 7300 for a year or so (and over several eras of a couple years each, a few other Treks) and had never done *any* work on a bike ever. I bought a Samuel Hillborne and wheels over a year ago and, after spraying the frame's insides with rust-protectant and letting that steep a couple days, built it up over a weekend. I am *marginally* mechanically inclined. I made several mistakes that required me to re-do things along the way. But nothing meaningly harmful. I was riding my new bike a week after I got the frameset (two days of actual building up). In my case (and probably in yours; ask RBW to confirm) my frameset came with the headset installed (not adjusted). Already-installed headset is good; I think installing a headset would be a little tricky for a layman without specialized tools that cost scores of dollars. But *everything else* is *very* doable by a layman. Some things will require special tools (at least: housing cutters, bottom bracket tool). And a set of Allen wrenches will be essential. But nothing that costs oodles of money or takes particular skill to use If you are mechanically inclined, are generally engineer-y, are willing to spend *some* money on tools and supplies, and are *interested*, then you will greatly benefit from putting it together yourself. I've put 5,000 miles on my Hillborne and have not discovered *anything* I've done wrong except that I misadjusted the derailer before the first time I rode it and as a result the chain came off; temporarily disappointing but I was able to fix it in 30 minutes and continued my ride. Nothing since. Putting together a quality bike like a Rivendell production frameset is indeed easy. If you *aren't* interested in how your bike goes together and fully intend to have your local bike shop fix anything that goes wrong that's more serious than a flat tire... then RBW's $200-ish assembly fee (maybe somewhat higher now; check!) is a *great* deal. Given their expertise and care and interest, it'd be worth $400 in my book. (Disclosure: my local bike shops have all disappointed me; perhaps I'm bitter.) And it's fine if that's how you view your bike; you own it, it doesn't own you. Enjoy! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who is getting a second Sam frameset and will build it up himself -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?
Just went out to the garage with a plumb line. The seat seems to be right on the money, in the same relative position as on my Litespeed. I am going to wait a week or two before doing anything else. I keep waffling about whether to change the bars or the stem. The tops of my Noodles are in the same relative position as the anatomic bars on my Litespeed. On the one hand, Mark's bars will likely move the hoods back far enough. OTOH, I like the Noodles and doubt that moving the tops back an inch will make that much of a difference. I may wind up flipping a coin :) Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/schtonyTRt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
My last pair of Panaracer Col de Vie tires said keep inflate to 50 lbs [sic]. I often inflated them to roughly 60 psi (with a little more air in the back tire). One mechanic noted on a sales receipt 65 psi (overrating) at client request. I cannot recall where, but I read somewhere that people were inflating their tires in this range. I had these tires for over a year and roughly 2500 km (1553 miles) and didn't have any known issues. A friend was the one to suggest it was time to get new tires after looking at the sidewalls and noting some striation. Could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? My new tires have Japanese writing on the sidewall (very helpful) and 300kPa (30kgf/cm2). Google calculated for me that 300 kPa is 43.5113213 pounds per square inch, so this is roughly what I inflated the new tires to. So, I'm wondering * could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? * why the two different pressures for the same tires? * what do other Panaracer Col de Vie users inflate their tires to? Finally, when I bought the first pair, I bought a spare because I was led to believe it would be so difficult to get 650B tires. It has been hanging in a dark closet. What is the life of a tire kept like this? The next time I get new tires, should I use this spare and hang a new spare? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
Hi Zaelia, tire pressure is dynamic, and should be based on the rider/bike weight as well as the width of the tire and riding conditions. No one pressure is best. Bicycle Quarterly made a cool little calculator that Philip updated and Jim posted here (oops, may not work anymore, thanks Google). I use it and have been VERY satisfied with it's recommendations. FWIW, my total weight (me + bike) was 200lbs and I ran CdlVs 60 back, 35 front. Never a pinch flat. http://www.biketinker.com/tire-pressure-calculator/ http://www.biketinker.com/2010/bike-resources/optimal-tire-pressure-for-bicycles/ On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: My last pair of Panaracer Col de Vie tires said keep inflate to 50 lbs [sic]. I often inflated them to roughly 60 psi (with a little more air in the back tire). One mechanic noted on a sales receipt 65 psi (overrating) at client request. I cannot recall where, but I read somewhere that people were inflating their tires in this range. I had these tires for over a year and roughly 2500 km (1553 miles) and didn't have any known issues. A friend was the one to suggest it was time to get new tires after looking at the sidewalls and noting some striation. Could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? My new tires have Japanese writing on the sidewall (very helpful) and 300kPa (30kgf/cm2). Google calculated for me that 300 kPa is 43.5113213 pounds per square inch, so this is roughly what I inflated the new tires to. So, I'm wondering * could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? * why the two different pressures for the same tires? * what do other Panaracer Col de Vie users inflate their tires to? Finally, when I bought the first pair, I bought a spare because I was led to believe it would be so difficult to get 650B tires. It has been hanging in a dark closet. What is the life of a tire kept like this? The next time I get new tires, should I use this spare and hang a new spare? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
I don't know if it will hurt them but running them that high will defeat some of the comfort level that the fatter tires deliver. I think I always kept my Col de Vies at around 45psi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2SYMc8UyiVAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Last training ride before PBP - a set on Flickr
There will definitely be a movie of the entire adventure. --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: Good luck on PBP. I'm looking forward to your video of the ride. jim m wc ca On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Ric content: riding lugged steel and leather, friction shifting a 7-speed freewheel. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627248430965/ Looking forward to returning to France for another ride through the Rambouillet forest! --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell Job Opening, Shipping Department.
As regular readers of the site know, Vaughn is moving on, first to Japan, and then back to Colorado, his old stomping grounds. We need to replace him. Here's our ad. It sounds pretty blunt, I know, but I figured it was better to be straight at the beginning than 6 months down the road. If you know anyone who might fit the bill, send them my way. If you fit the bill, send me your resume. And thank you. Shipper, F/T This is not a dead-end job, far from it, but it's not a stepping stone, either. We're looking for someone who wants a job in the shipping department, not a person who is biding their time until they can design frames, assemble bikes, or wait on customers. Any knowledge of bikes and parts will be useful, since you'll be picking and boxing them. But strictly, it is not necessary, as long as you can learn. We want someone who needs a job, likes cardboard as much (if not more) than bikes, doesn't require a huge salary to get by in the Bay Area, and is ready to commit to long-term employment. It's hot in the summer, cold in the winter. 50-90 packages a day. No back-up. When the other shipper is gone, you're it. Punctuality, dependability, and maturity required. Unglamorous, but good work. Benefits after 90 days. Commuter Checks if you don't live close. 401K. 8:30-4:30. Monday through Friday. $25K/ year. Send resume and cover letter to John. j...@rivbike.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
*Bicycle Quarterly made a cool little calculator that Philip updated and Jim posted* Thank you for reminding me about this. I had seen it before (and saved a copy in my computer files). The numbers I get seem pretty low to me (34 rear, 20 front). It might help if I understood it a little more. Numbers have never been my strong suit though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N3Tmq0GdX4YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
*I don't know if it will hurt them but running them that high will defeat some of the comfort level that the fatter tires deliver.* I did experiment with pressure in the past and found I was more comfortable with the higher pressure. That said, I have taken the bike on a few rides with the new tires and lower pressure, and I have not felt like I wanted to change anything... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B1mlWtpGm6EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: !st Rivendell - Thank You Forrest and Bikeman
Congrats? Pics? and how about some pics of the Green Mountain Loop too! I have actually done that loop twice-- clockwise and counterclockwise. Where are you starting? What direction you planning? If you have any questions, let me know. Happy riding! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RrBCikYh1U4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Longboard fenders with Schwalbe Marathon 700x38
I have a 59 cm AHH with side pull brakes and the fender tire set up in the title. Technically this set up does work. With the bike in the stand I get clearance for the fenders, which I must say look beautiful, but out on the road any vibration and braking causes the fenders to contact the tires just slightly. Not enough to slow me down or even cause a noticeable resistance but just enough to make one of those annoying sounds that I hate to hear when riding. I cannot seem to adjust this out. Maybe it is just nitpicky and it probably shouldn’t bother me but it does. It doesn’t make sense to me to replace 80 dollars worth of tires for 40 dollars worth of fender so I have decided to remove the fenders. If I get to the point where I want to replace the tires I will go with something a little narrower and put the fenders back on, but it may be a while because I have yet to wear out a pair of Marathons. This is not a big issue for me because I have my Surly with fenders and if the weather looks like I may need fenders it will give me a good reason to ride that bike, but if I was ordering again I would go with slightly narrower tires like maybe the 700x35. I have read before that Schwalbe sizes their tires a little different than other brands so maybe someone using a different brand with these fenders can add some experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JGf9aW76qOMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
Did you include your weight + the bike's weight? If you didn't, just add 25-30lbs to your weight and put the # in. I ran the numbers and to get that pressure would have to weigh 100# and have a 25# bike for a total of 125#. If that's your weight, then try it and see how it feels that low. If you don't like it that low, then you really don't need tires that wide and could try some narrower ones like the Maxy Fasty.http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/650b-x-3279-maxy-fasty-kevlar/10-087 Have fun experimenting! On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: *Bicycle Quarterly made a cool little calculator that Philip updated and Jim posted* Thank you for reminding me about this. I had seen it before (and saved a copy in my computer files). The numbers I get seem pretty low to me (34 rear, 20 front). It might help if I understood it a little more. Numbers have never been my strong suit though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N3Tmq0GdX4YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT: Brooks Swift Ti
I have a Brooks Swift Ti in honey with under 400 miles, if someone has a Brooks B.17 Titanium that don't use and want to trade give me a shout. Thanks! -S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vNx-t6SGtO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 18:45 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: Did you include your weight + the bike's weight? If you didn't, just add 25-30lbs to your weight and put the # in. I ran the numbers and to get that pressure would have to weigh 100# and have a 25# bike for a total of 125#. If that's your weight, then try it and see how it feels that low. If you don't like it that low, then you really don't need tires that wide and could try some narrower ones like the Maxy Fasty. Have fun experimenting! But remember that the BQ chart is weight per wheel, not total weight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Serendipity meet-up
I rode the Cascade Bicycle Club's RSVP (Ride from Seattle to Vancouver and Party) this past Fri-Sat. Standing by my bike in the parking lot, got a that's a PRETTY bike! (not the Riv Bleriot, but the Sweetpea, which still looks pretty darn Riv-ish :-) ). Well :-) Eventually introductions - Joan Oppel from this group! Cool! We rode together from outside Bellingham into Lynden on Saturday morning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W4aAN8ZohUYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
The spreadsheet I was looking at uses total weight, then divides it 60/40... On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 18:45 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: Did you include your weight + the bike's weight? If you didn't, just add 25-30lbs to your weight and put the # in. I ran the numbers and to get that pressure would have to weigh 100# and have a 25# bike for a total of 125#. If that's your weight, then try it and see how it feels that low. If you don't like it that low, then you really don't need tires that wide and could try some narrower ones like the Maxy Fasty. Have fun experimenting! But remember that the BQ chart is weight per wheel, not total weight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Longboard fenders with Schwalbe Marathon 700x38
Scotty, On my Atlantis I've run the Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700x38 and currently use the Schwalbe Marathon XR 700x38, both wit the regular SKS fenders (like the look of those longboards!). I also had the benign though annoying rubbing at times. I fixed this by re-bending the strut tabs (the tabs the struts run through to anchor to the fender) a bit. Close to the fender, I bent then ~90 degrees out and then turned the ends back down to receive the struts. Bought me a few millimeters and a whole lot of quiet. Hope this helps, lyle On 7 August 2011 21:26, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote: I have a 59 cm AHH with side pull brakes and the fender tire set up in the title. Technically this set up does work. With the bike in the stand I get clearance for the fenders, which I must say look beautiful, but out on the road any vibration and braking causes the fenders to contact the tires just slightly. Not enough to slow me down or even cause a noticeable resistance but just enough to make one of those annoying sounds that I hate to hear when riding. I cannot seem to adjust this out. Maybe it is just nitpicky and it probably shouldn’t bother me but it does. It doesn’t make sense to me to replace 80 dollars worth of tires for 40 dollars worth of fender so I have decided to remove the fenders. If I get to the point where I want to replace the tires I will go with something a little narrower and put the fenders back on, but it may be a while because I have yet to wear out a pair of Marathons.** This is not a big issue for me because I have my Surly with fenders and if the weather looks like I may need fenders it will give me a good reason to ride that bike, but if I was ordering again I would go with slightly narrower tires like maybe the 700x35. I have read before that Schwalbe sizes their tires a little different than other brands so maybe someone using a different brand with these fenders can add some experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JGf9aW76qOMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: !st Rivendell - Thank You Forrest and Bikeman
Glad this all worked out for you, Jay. I am eager to see photos of the bike, and I hope you use and enjoy it for a long time. -- Forrest -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Xt8h-h1xpkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
I need to read things more carefully. Initially, I only put down my weight. I don't know exactly what my bike weighs, so I added 30 and then added another 20 for gear. This changed the numbers to 49 rear and 30 front. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'm still curious about the other things as well, if anyone has any insight. * could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? * why the two different pressures for the same tires? Finally, when I bought the first pair, I bought a spare because I was led to believe it would be so difficult to get 650B tires. It has been hanging in a dark closet. What is the life of a tire kept like this? The next time I get new tires, should I use this spare and hang a new spare? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0IheADDnKXQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Panaracer Col de Vie tire inflation
Gladly. The differences in pressure are based on the average bicycle bearing 60% of the weight on the rear tire. This is why rear tires wear faster and rear wheels are often built stronger. The extra weight means the tire needs to be run at a higher pressure. In the spreadsheet you can change the percentages, but 60/40 is pretty accurate. As long as there is not an ozone source in the closet (usually generated from electric motors like in a refrigerator) the tire in the closet should last a long time. When you are ready to mount it, look it over carefully for cracks. Fine surface cracks are not a problem, but large ones going through the rubber and to the casing are a concern. If you wanted to put it in a plastic bag, like a trash bag, that might protect it even more. That's probably not necessary though. It doesn't hurt to have a spare on hand. Hope that answered a few questions :-) On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: I need to read things more carefully. Initially, I only put down my weight. I don't know exactly what my bike weighs, so I added 30 and then added another 20 for gear. This changed the numbers to 49 rear and 30 front. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'm still curious about the other things as well, if anyone has any insight. * could over inflating shorten the life of these tires? * why the two different pressures for the same tires? Finally, when I bought the first pair, I bought a spare because I was led to believe it would be so difficult to get 650B tires. It has been hanging in a dark closet. What is the life of a tire kept like this? The next time I get new tires, should I use this spare and hang a new spare? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0IheADDnKXQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pedicab drivers love Rivendell
Look for the green Rivendell cap in the video! http://tinyurl.com/4x3j3f9 funny! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
