[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Winter Studded Tires Clearance question

2011-12-21 Thread newenglandbike
One more vote for 35's-added snow clearance is good, but also, I find 
that if you go too fat you can get a floating effect on fresh snow.
Especially at anything over 10mph. 

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[RBW] Extra Virgin Hillborne

2011-12-21 Thread robert zeidler
I am the owner of a Sam which can be viewed on the Renaissance Cycle
website, or you can do a search for Bob's XL Rivendell and probably
get to it.

I have this bike but it is still in the box, never put together, so it
would look just like the pictures because it is just like the
pictures.

Offering this for $3900.00 and I'll pay for shipping in CONUS.

Merry Christmas!!

RGZ

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[RBW] Re: Extra Virgin Hillborne

2011-12-21 Thread eflayer
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12gallery=75

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[RBW] Re: Kudos for New Riv wool bike jersey -

2011-12-21 Thread Roger
Sounds like they're great.
Are these on their site now? I looked but didn't seem to find them.

On Dec 20, 9:14 pm, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:
 I had to share my thoughts on this since I like it so much.  I saw Grant's 
 post about getting these in and that they'd be the last from this New Zealand 
 supplier.  So here's the report:  this is a great wool jersey/shirt.  
 Lightweight (I'd guess something like 18 grams based on what I know about my 
 other wool tops) and very well made, beautifully made.  It's $60 - half what 
 same-quality tops cost from other companies.  And, it has 3 pockets in the 
 back.  They're unobtrusive, so if you don't want to use them, I don't think 
 you'll notice they're there.  I personally like having them.



 I got another bottle of Kookaburra wash along with the shirt - that stuff is 
 the best wool wash I've ever used.

 Joan

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Re: [RBW] Kudos for New Riv wool bike jersey -

2011-12-21 Thread robert zeidler
Nor did I.

On Wednesday, December 21, 2011, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds like they're great.
 Are these on their site now? I looked but didn't seem to find them.

 On Dec 20, 9:14 pm, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:
 I had to share my thoughts on this since I like it so much.  I saw
Grant's post about getting these in and that they'd be the last from this
New Zealand supplier.  So here's the report:  this is a great wool
jersey/shirt.  Lightweight (I'd guess something like 18 grams based on what
I know about my other wool tops) and very well made, beautifully made.
 It's $60 - half what same-quality tops cost from other companies.  And, it
has 3 pockets in the back.  They're unobtrusive, so if you don't want to
use them, I don't think you'll notice they're there.  I personally like
having them.



 I got another bottle of Kookaburra wash along with the shirt - that
stuff is the best wool wash I've ever used.

 Joan

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[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread William
Thanks for the info.  500g is a perfectly suitable placeholder for what I'm 
trying to do.  

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[RBW] Re: my 10 speed quickbeam

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Rivers
http://flic.kr/p/6WjpRk

Another option.  I ran a four speed QB with the double up front, and Dos 
Eno cog in back.  Thumbshifters and front and rear Der and I finished a 
century with some friends.

I found the clamp on chainstay cable stop on the Web, and the bottom 
bracket on my silver Quickbeam has cable guides.  Riv sold a downtube clamp 
cable guide (still may...).

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: my 10 speed quickbeam

2011-12-21 Thread Eric Norris
Nice. How much trouble is it to take the rear derailleur off on the road if you 
get a flat?

--Eric N
Sent from my iPad2 

On Dec 21, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Michael Rivers mriver...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://flic.kr/p/6WjpRk
 
 Another option.  I ran a four speed QB with the double up front, and Dos Eno 
 cog in back.  Thumbshifters and front and rear Der and I finished a century 
 with some friends.
 
 I found the clamp on chainstay cable stop on the Web, and the bottom bracket 
 on my silver Quickbeam has cable guides.  Riv sold a downtube clamp cable 
 guide (still may...).
 
 Michael
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[RBW] More FAT 700C tires For Sale

2011-12-21 Thread William
As I've explained a few times now, I sold my 56cm Hillborne because I 
decided I really want a 58cm Atlantis.  Well, the build kit that came off 
the Hillborne is slowly getting repurposed on different bikes, and so the 
Atlantis is receding on the horizon.  It's still out there, but it's 
farther away now than it was when I still had a Hillborne.  So, the only 
real perishable parts, the FAT 700C tires I have, are up for liquidation.  

Up for sale today is a pair of IRC Mythos Slick 700x42 knobbies.  Anybody 
with a Hillborne (or a Quickbeam, or a SimpleOne, or a Hunqapillar, or a 
Bombadil, or an Atlantis) that wants to run it as a mudder might have a lot 
of fun with these tires.  I put them on the Hillborne and went for about 20 
miles of mixed terrain riding on them.  So they are used but functionally 
new.  I'll include a pair of suitable tubes as well.  $50 shipped for the 
pair, tires and tubes.  

Here's pictures of my former Hillborne with these tires on it, showing 
clearance at all relevant points.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626464189260/with/5604248171/
 

I can ship today.  I can ship tomorrow.  After that, it'll be January 2nd 
before I can transact with you.  

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[RBW] LA area bike shops - 650b

2011-12-21 Thread lauren
Hello, 

Does anybody know of a shop in the LA/Orange County area that sells 650b 
tires? We punctured a tire on the AMAZING Santa Monica Mtns ride that David 
recommended. 

Thanks!
-Lauren

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Re: [RBW] Kudos for New Riv wool bike jersey -

2011-12-21 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
There are some tops under Web Specials that aren't under Clothing.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Winter Studded Tires Clearance question

2011-12-21 Thread Tom
Peter White's website seems to imply that the studs don't add to the clearance 
required:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.asp

See the 'How to fit the fat ones' section.

Might be worth asking him, or posting on Bicycle Lifestyle?

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Re: [RBW] What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread Ryan Watson
A set of 35mm wide 700c Electra Ticino alloy fenders weighs 390g on my scale. 
Not quite wide enough for your Jack Browns.
This does not include the 4 fasteners to to attach the stays to the dropouts 
nor the bolt for the chainstay bridge. It does include fender-to-stay hardware 
and tangs for attaching to the front and rear brake bolts.
I'd guess a compete set wide enough for jack browns would be 500-ish.

FYI Berthoud stainless 650bx60mm fenders (just the actual fenders, no stays or 
other hardware) weigh 500g.

Ryan





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 I'm dwelling on some numbers and I'm curious what a lightish set of aluminum 
 fenders weigh.  If any of you weighed yours before putting them on, I'd 
 appreciate it.  Rounded to the nearest 100g would be fine.  I'm looking at 
 narrowish 700C, like what you'd use to cover Jack Browns.  I don't know if 
 it's 200g, 500g or 800g.  
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[RBW] FS: pieces and parts, garmin, salsa, dura ace, acorn, sram, wtb, fsa

2011-12-21 Thread Rod C
1.  Garmin 305 Forerunner GPS unit and charger $90 shipped
2.  FSA Wing Pro compact bar 44cm 31.8 clamp  $49 shipped
3.  Salsa ProMoto 90cm stem, 2011 model, 31.8 clamp, 5 deg rise/drop
$40 shipped
4.  Dura Ace 9 speed bar end shifters $90 shipped
5.  Sram alloy 500 levers pair, silver lever, $70 shipped
6.  WTB SST saddle, $40 shipped, cromo rail
7.  Acorn small handlebar or saddle bag, black with tan straps, no
tears or rips, $40 shipped

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[RBW] Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?

2011-12-21 Thread Chris Lampe
I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of
the changes I want to make is new tires.  I'm trying to decide between
the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c.

Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant
differences?  I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of
each other in width.  Will one be cushier?  Will one be firmer?
Will one seem quicker?

I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although
they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable
amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like.

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[RBW] Thanks to Mike from Warwck RI

2011-12-21 Thread Jay
The stem he sold me just arrived.
International shipping turned out to be no big deal - $13 and about a
week.
Amazon sent me the wrong size and it had to go back.
Mike got it right.
So I had something to open tonight for Hanuka.

Happy holidays everyone.

Jay

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[RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Dave Rivbike
Gestating the idea of an All American Roadeo.
Is it possible?
Would have gone with say an Atlantis, but I think the MUSA quill stem
doesn't exist.


Roadeo Frame
White Industries Crank
Phil BB, Spokes  Hubs
Chris King Headset
Paul Brakes
Thomson threadless stem, seatpost
Thomson even makes bolts


Here's the sticky stuff:

Chain, Cassette, Tires, Cabling, Shifters, Brake Levers, Rims,
Handlebars

Not sure if Bontrager stuff is all MUSA or not anymore, but they do
rims (complete wheels), handlebars, tires, saddles, bottle cages
Phil and White both make a single speed cogs but no cassettes...
Paul makes brake levers, but not for drops

Is it possible?
Any ideas for those last bits?
Is Bontrager MUSA?
Am I missing some great MUSA manufacturer?

I know of a custom knifemaker who machines his own cassettes, but to
buy one would probably be $999 or so.

More questions than answers. A monumental invoice total I'm sure, but
primo stuff.

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Re: Re: [RBW] New Riv wool bike jersey - New Stuff page

2011-12-21 Thread Joan Oppel
The shirts are on the New Stuff page, and also under Web Specials, I think.JoanI wonder if the items change periodically that load when I click on rivbike.com, so that things cycle on that home page.On 12/21/11, Smitty-A-Go-Go54ca...@gmail.com wrote:There are some tops under Web Specials that aren't under Clothing.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5D_yTFEkTJgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



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[RBW] Re: LA area bike shops - 650b

2011-12-21 Thread William
My cousin manages a Rock-n-Road store, and it was he who first introduced 
me to 650B (although it was as a 27.5 mountain bike).  I just emailed him, 
but try Rock-n-Road.  They might have only fat knobbies.  

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Re: [RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Dave Rivbike d...@rivbike.com wrote:
 Gestating the idea of an All American Roadeo.
 Is it possible?

I went through this when I was trying to get parts together for my AHH.

 Chain, Cassette, Tires, Cabling, Shifters, Brake Levers, Rims,
 Handlebars

RIMS: aiui velocity is moving production to florida soon(tm) - might
want to look into that.


Cassette - american classics - are they made here?


-sv

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Re: [RBW] What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Thanks Ryan.
So is the rule of thumb that for a given size/width Honjo aluminum fenders
are lighter than Gilles Berthoud stainless steel fenders? That would
certainly make sense.
How about stays and fasteners--is there a difference in weight between
Honjo and Berthoud?
Are Berthoud stays and fasteners compatible with Honjo fenders?
I am trying to decide what kind of fenders to mount on a custom 650B rando
bike that is transitioning from the daydreaming to the planning stage.
I like the super long versions of the Honjo fenders. And some of the
hammered and fluted versions look gorgeous on the right bike.
But I think I prefer the Berthoud stays  mounting hardware. You are less
likely to catch a mounting bolt/daruma on the front fender with your toe.
And Berthoud steel fenders have proven to be quite durable in my experience.

David G, Madison WI
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Ryan Watson rswat...@me.com wrote:

  A set of 35mm wide 700c Electra Ticino alloy fenders weighs 390g on my
 scale.
 Not quite wide enough for your Jack Browns.
 This does not include the 4 fasteners to to attach the stays to the
 dropouts nor the bolt for the chainstay bridge. It does include
 fender-to-stay hardware and tangs for attaching to the front and rear brake
 bolts.
 I'd guess a compete set wide enough for jack browns would be 500-ish.

 FYI Berthoud stainless 650bx60mm fenders (just the actual fenders, no
 stays or other hardware) weigh 500g.

 Ryan



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Re: [RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Jim Mather
I've seen people attempt this before. I think the big stumbling block are
the derailers. Unless you go back to '90's CNC derailers like Paul, White,
Joe's, Precision, or the Excel/Elgin line, you won't find anything. SRAM is
based in USA, but I bet everything is made in Taiwan.

good luck,
jim m
wc ca

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Dave Rivbike d...@rivbike.com wrote:
  Gestating the idea of an All American Roadeo.
  Is it possible?

 I went through this when I was trying to get parts together for my AHH.
 
  Chain, Cassette, Tires, Cabling, Shifters, Brake Levers, Rims,
  Handlebars

 RIMS: aiui velocity is moving production to florida soon(tm) - might
 want to look into that.


 Cassette - american classics - are they made here?


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Re: [RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread William
derailers are a tough one as well.  You have communication with Paul, and 
I'm sure he still has the CNC files for his derailers.  

Is Gore cabling MUSA?

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[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread William
Paul Brakes come with koolstop pads and hardware which I imagine might not 
be 100% MUSA.  Also the hanger has historically been a generic one, and I 
imagine still is.  All the bolts, also, Paul doesn't make.  

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[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Bernard
My Waterford AHH has a Precision Billet Proshift rear derailer. No luck 
finding the front derailer and twist shifters yet. If I got *that *far, the 
next step would be Paul centerpulls. You're right, this could become 
obscenely expensive!
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think this is a laudable goal and my Ram and tandem share it.  But you do 
have to decide how much you are willing to sacrifice and whether it is 
really worth being a purist.

I like Cane Creek, both as products and a company.  They have mfg both on 
and off shore but without asking them directly it is hard to know where 
parts come from without asking.  I have a 1 headset from them that is 
great, as are there brake levers,  tandem levers, and thudbuster seat post, 
which my stoker really likes..

I also have an older American Classic seat post, which is light and strong, 
but i gather they have discontinued the silver version.  

On the other hand I use German made Wipperman Connex chains exclusively. 
 And have to admit my new Shimano 6700 RD is the best shifting derailleur I 
have owned in 30 years of cycling.

Thanks for starting this thread.

michael

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[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Hey, I probably have the only Rivendell with an American derailer! That's 
cool.

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Re: [RBW] Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?

2011-12-21 Thread Jim Mather
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Chris Lampe clampe1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of
 the changes I want to make is new tires.  I'm trying to decide between
 the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c.



I prefer the MS to JB blue; I haven't tried JB green. The MS feels cushier
and quicker but I haven't timed myself on them. The JB was my favorite 33
tire, though, until I tried the MS. I only got one flat on the JB's in many
miles, but I have yet to flat the MS. Also, the little bit of inverted
tread on the MS gave more bite off pavement than the JB's. Not a big
difference, and the JB is a great tire, but the MS has become my preferred
ride.

jim m
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Re: [RBW] What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread René Sterental
Owning both types, I prefer the steel Berthoud over the aluminum Honjo
fenders. Like how the stays are bolted to the fenders on the Berthoud
better as well.

I have the stays and bolts for both currently, but no scale to weigh
them... I cannot seem to have been able to find Berthouds for 42mm 650B
tires yet... Only Honjos.

Right now my Atlantis and Hunqapillar have steel Berthouds and my Homer has
Honjos. I'm trying to fit 47mm Honjos on the Betty. Got the rear one in
place, but am making adjustments to the daruma for the front to address the
brake bolt for the front Silver brakes that doesn't allow the daruma to be
centered. I also need to trim its length a bit so it doesn't rub the tire.
Will need to do the same with the small stay darumas front and rear.

René

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Re: [RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
The project will be easier if you run a fixed-gear or single-speed
drivetrain. Plus you may gain *souplesse* and/or cred among the patrons of
Zeitgeist SF. Then again you might just end up soup-less.

Until recently much of the high-end Bontrager carbon fiber stuff (including
handlebars, stems, and seatposts) was Made in Wisconsin. Probably no longer
though. Other than prototypes their saddles were never MIW or MUSA. Perhaps
Selle San An-Atomica can supply a MUSA saddle for you. Or just securely
lash a MUSA sirloin steak to the top of your MUSA Thomson or Paul seatpost
with MUSA hemp twine before every ride, and grill and eat it afterwards (low
carbs http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bo14.htm).

MUSA chain: None are currently in production, as far as I know. A NOS Viking
Titanium http://www.bikepro.com/arch_products/chains/a-vikingti-chain.html
chain
would be a true eBay score. Are Gates Carbon Drive components MUSA? Maybe
some of the metal sprockets are, but I doubt the belt is. Try rigging a
drive belt out of that handy roll of MUSA hemp twine. And if that fails,
soothe yourself by smoking some Humbolt County... tobacco.

MUSA tires: Another big problem. Build a greenhouse and grow your own Para
rubber trees and make some tires. May cause significant delay in your
project timeline. In the meantime you can shoulder your MUSA frameset
cyclocross-style and run around waving an American Flag (just confirm that
it is not Made in
Chinahttp://www.fmaa-usa.com/resources_links/usflag_statistics.php).


Good luck,

David G, Madison WI



On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Dave Rivbike d...@rivbike.com wrote:

 Gestating the idea of an All American Roadeo.
 Is it possible?
 Would have gone with say an Atlantis, but I think the MUSA quill stem
 doesn't exist.


 Roadeo Frame
 White Industries Crank
 Phil BB, Spokes  Hubs
 Chris King Headset
 Paul Brakes
 Thomson threadless stem, seatpost
 Thomson even makes bolts


 Here's the sticky stuff:

 Chain, Cassette, Tires, Cabling, Shifters, Brake Levers, Rims,
 Handlebars

 Not sure if Bontrager stuff is all MUSA or not anymore, but they do
 rims (complete wheels), handlebars, tires, saddles, bottle cages
 Phil and White both make a single speed cogs but no cassettes...
 Paul makes brake levers, but not for drops

 Is it possible?
 Any ideas for those last bits?
 Is Bontrager MUSA?
 Am I missing some great MUSA manufacturer?

 I know of a custom knifemaker who machines his own cassettes, but to
 buy one would probably be $999 or so.

 More questions than answers. A monumental invoice total I'm sure, but
 primo stuff.


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[RBW] Re: All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Greg J
Not to rain on your parade, but my guess is that at least the dropouts and 
the lugs are made in Taiwan, so you're already in the realm of assembled 
in the US.

Of course, you have to draw the line somewhere, and yours is a perfectly 
reasonable one.  

My impression is that American Classic has been sourcing at least some of 
its products from Asia for about 10 years now.  I don't think post-Trek 
Bontrager is MUSA.  

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Re: [RBW] All American Roadeo

2011-12-21 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:56 PM, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 The project will be easier if you run a fixed-gear or single-speed
 drivetrain. Plus you may gain souplesse and/or cred among the patrons of
 Zeitgeist SF. Then again you might just end up soup-less.

 Until recently much of the high-end Bontrager carbon fiber stuff (including
 handlebars, stems, and seatposts) was Made in Wisconsin. Probably no longer
 though. Other than prototypes their saddles were never MIW or MUSA. Perhaps
 Selle San An-Atomica can supply a MUSA saddle for you. Or just securely lash
 a MUSA sirloin steak to the top of your MUSA Thomson or Paul seatpost with
 MUSA hemp twine before every ride, and grill and eat it afterwards (low
 carbs).

 MUSA chain: None are currently in production, as far as I know. A NOS Viking
 Titanium chain would be a true eBay score. Are Gates Carbon Drive components
 MUSA? Maybe some of the metal sprockets are, but I doubt the belt is. Try
 rigging a drive belt out of that handy roll of MUSA hemp twine. And if that
 fails, soothe yourself by smoking some Humbolt County... tobacco.

 MUSA tires: Another big problem. Build a greenhouse and grow your own Para
 rubber trees and make some tires. May cause significant delay in your
 project timeline. In the meantime you can shoulder your MUSA frameset
 cyclocross-style and run around waving an American Flag (just confirm that
 it is not Made in China).


David,
 I don't think your snide reply was necessary or really warranted.

please don't be that way.
-sv

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[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread Jan Heine
When we tested fenders for Bicycle Quarterly (Vol. 2, No. 1), we found
for complete sets with stays and hardware:

- Honjo aluminum H40, 444 g.
- Berthoud stainless 700C: 598 g
- SKS narrow: 510 g
- Berthoud carbon: 248 g
- Salmon aluminum: 686 g

I prefer the Honjo aluminum fenders, as they are easy to shape for a
perfect fit. The Berthoud stainless fenders apparently have a tendency
to crack over time.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
http://www.bikequarterly.com

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Winter Studded Tires Clearance question

2011-12-21 Thread Zack
yep, all you west coast riv owners don't have to deal with tire studs! 
 ahahah

i am a bit jealous here in VT.  I posted over on bicycle lifestyle.

thanks for the help everyone!


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[RBW] Re: LA area bike shops - 650b

2011-12-21 Thread dougP
Lauren:

Try one of the Helen's shops:

http://helenscycles.com/storelocator/santa-monica-2.htm

They've been around a long time  may have 650B.

dougP

On Dec 21, 11:00 am, lauren laurench...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Does anybody know of a shop in the LA/Orange County area that sells 650b
 tires? We punctured a tire on the AMAZING Santa Monica Mtns ride that David
 recommended.

 Thanks!
 -Lauren

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[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Well after searching the internet and looking around I saw nothing to confirm 
your accusation that Berthoud fenders fail any sooner that anyone else's.   
(prone to crack) As a matter of fact I was able to find more negative 
information on the Honjo's.  Either way both were minimal and in no way 
indicated a trend.

I also went to Vol 2 #1 and saw no actual testing of the Berthoud steel fender 
in that article under metal fenders.   Not much comparison either.. but reviews 
got much better I noticed as BQ has aged.  The fenders and aerodynamics on the 
page following was very interesting .. did you ever chase that further? I 
notice you sell Honjo fenders as well. 

I have planet bike fenders on one bike, sks longboard on 2 bikes, and berhoud 
steel on two bikes.  I don't have Berthoud because I believe them to be better 
than Honjo.  It was only because the vender Peter White had a proven track 
record with me on light purchases so gave them a try.  After finding them of 
high quality in my mind, I  bought a second set.Not to mention I'm not to 
worried about  weight.  

It's my opinion that if weight is all that matters then in metal look to the 
Honjos.. as for quality and lasting .. doesn't matter .. sks, planet bike, 
honjo or berthoud will give you years of good service. 

Regards,

Kelly



 


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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?

2011-12-21 Thread Greg
I wore out a set of JB Blues out on a '91 Bridgestone RB-T I use as my
commuter. I then tried a set of Marathon Supremes, but in 32mm size.
Wore those out. I'm back with the JBB's now. The Supremes were a nice
tire, long lasting, but had more rolling resistance. They really
rumble when you roll them across a smooth surface and my experience
has been that translates into more resistance on pavement. I think
I'll stay with the JBB's. Though I will check them more often for
embedded debris than I did the Supremes.

On Dec 21, 3:37 pm, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Chris Lampe clampe1...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of
  the changes I want to make is new tires.  I'm trying to decide between
  the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c.

 I prefer the MS to JB blue; I haven't tried JB green. The MS feels cushier
 and quicker but I haven't timed myself on them. The JB was my favorite 33
 tire, though, until I tried the MS. I only got one flat on the JB's in many
 miles, but I have yet to flat the MS. Also, the little bit of inverted
 tread on the MS gave more bite off pavement than the JB's. Not a big
 difference, and the JB is a great tire, but the MS has become my preferred
 ride.

 jim m
 wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread William Pustow
Jesus, Sleeper, relax. Find another list or stop drinking.
Bill
Louisville. Ky


On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote:

 Well after searching the internet and looking around I saw nothing to confirm 
 your accusation that Berthoud fenders fail any sooner that anyone else's.   
 (prone to crack) As a matter of fact I was able to find more negative 
 information on the Honjo's.  Either way both were minimal and in no way 
 indicated a trend.
 
 I also went to Vol 2 #1 and saw no actual testing of the Berthoud steel 
 fender in that article under metal fenders.   Not much comparison either.. 
 but reviews got much better I noticed as BQ has aged.  The fenders and 
 aerodynamics on the page following was very interesting .. did you ever chase 
 that further? I notice you sell Honjo fenders as well. 
 
 I have planet bike fenders on one bike, sks longboard on 2 bikes, and berhoud 
 steel on two bikes.  I don't have Berthoud because I believe them to be 
 better than Honjo.  It was only because the vender Peter White had a proven 
 track record with me on light purchases so gave them a try.  After finding 
 them of high quality in my mind, I  bought a second set.Not to mention 
 I'm not to worried about  weight.  
 
 It's my opinion that if weight is all that matters then in metal look to the 
 Honjos.. as for quality and lasting .. doesn't matter .. sks, planet bike, 
 honjo or berthoud will give you years of good service. 
 
 Regards,
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?

2011-12-21 Thread Bill M.
Consider a third option as well, the Vittoria Randonneur Hyper.
Available in 32, 35 and 38 mm.  My 32's measure 34 mm wide on Velocity
A23 rims, they should be a true 32 on a narrower rim.  365 gm
(measured), in between the JB blue and green, nice rolling, reasonably
flat-resistant, black sidewalls (won't rot in the sun like a skinwall)
with reflective stripes.  They fit well, too.  Every Vittoria I have
used has mounted straight and true, securely snug but not overly
tight, unlike some of the Panaracer-made tires I've had.  They are
also a fair bit less expensive than the Supremes.  I like them, and
there has been a fair bit of love for them from others on the iBOB
list.

Bill

On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe clampe1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of
 the changes I want to make is new tires.  I'm trying to decide between
 the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c.

 Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant
 differences?  I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of
 each other in width.  Will one be cushier?  Will one be firmer?
 Will one seem quicker?

 I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although
 they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable
 amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like.

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns or Schwalbe Marathon Supremes?

2011-12-21 Thread charlie
I ride the 70x40's MS and love itits actually about 37-38 mm wide
so just perfect for me. So far no flats and its a speedy comfy tire.
The 35 could only be lighter and presumably faster on smooth pavement.

On Dec 20, 10:33 am, Chris Lampe clampe1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm working on retrofitting an old mid-90's hybrid bicycle and one of
 the changes I want to make is new tires.  I'm trying to decide between
 the Jack Brown's and the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35c.

 Has anyone ridden both and can comment on any significant
 differences?  I'm guessing they are going to come out within 2 mm of
 each other in width.  Will one be cushier?  Will one be firmer?
 Will one seem quicker?

 I'm currently running Specialized Nimbus 700 x 38c tires and although
 they are more comfortable than smaller tires, there is a noticeable
 amount of increased road resistance, which I don't like.

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[RBW] Re: LA area bike shops - 650b

2011-12-21 Thread William
My cousin had nothing on hand.  No help.  I told him he sucks and he's dead 
to me now.  OK, I'm exaggerating.  

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Bleriot.

2011-12-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
I want to thank everyone for the amazing support with my lost bike.
Still out looking for it. Hoping for the best expecting the worse. But
still everyone here is amazing. I got tons of emails from people
willing to loan me a bike to get me back into riding. While I'm
thankful I still have plenty of bikes to ride. While they aren't very
Rivendellish I can manage. My students by far are the most supportive!
One of my students drew me a booklet about what happened to my bike.
They even stapled my STOLEN leaflets on to their backpacks to look for
it! Thank you again for all the kinds words.

Pictures proved that my kids care:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxovgzv

PS In case you were wondering passing out, stapling or taping Stolen
leaflets are illegal in Fremont apparently. You'll be fine.

-Manny  Let's bike karma! Acosta
STOLEN flyer here.
http://flic.kr/p/aVASGg

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[RBW] Re: Stolen Bleriot.

2011-12-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
I want to thank everyone for the amazing support with my lost bike.
Still out looking for it. Hoping for the best expecting the worse.
But
still everyone here is amazing. I got tons of emails from people
willing to loan me a bike to get me back into riding. While I'm
thankful I still have plenty of bikes to ride. While they aren't very
Rivendellish I can manage. My students by far are the most
supportive!
One of my students drew me a booklet about what happened to my bike.
They even stapled my STOLEN leaflets on to their backpacks to look
for
it! Thank you again for all the kinds words.
Pictures proved that my kids care:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxovgzv
PS In case you were wondering passing out, stapling or taping Stolen
leaflets are illegal in Fremont apparently. You'll be fine.

-Manny  Let's go bike karma! Acosta
STOLEN flyer here.
http://flic.kr/p/aVASGg

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[RBW] When it rains it pours. ( Long post)

2011-12-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
Riding without my Rivendell is meh but doable. Trying to make the best
of the sad situation by riding with old college road bike (carbon
fork, no spoke wheels, no fender mounts. Grant already scold at my
clipless shoes.) and with good old friends. Weird December with no
rain, but I'm not complaining. Good rides so far, got to ride the
Rivendell HQ to meet with a buddy of mine, ran into  Erik from Cosmic
Country( Pictures are amazing by the way. check him out.
http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/) who just recently got back from a
overnight trip at Mt.Diablo. Got to see my buddy Will's hanky panky
new bike. Old MB-2 that he got sandblasted and clear coated. Beautiful
bike, super functional huge thanks to Vince and everyone at Rivendell
for helping him out. His bike turned out really well and he seems
really happy about now he just needs to get it dirty, hopefully we can
get a camping trip in soon.

Pictures prove that Will's bike exist:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxv1zpH

My other good buddy Duy coming up from LA brought up his Rambouillet
(by far one of my favorite names for a bike). His bike doesn't see a
lot of dirt in LA so when he comes up we try to get it as dirty as
possible. We take the dirt trail up from Lake Chabot to Skyline Road
and ride through West Ridge. Funny looking stares from both ends of
the spectrum from Mountain bikers and Road bikers(Riding non-lycra
clothing on a nice dirt trail with a carbon fork road bike). But not
from Changing Gears Head Mechanic Barry! Ran into this guy with his
well weathered stuntjumper right at the end of West ridge. I was lucky
enough to ride with Barry on a couple rides and this guy rides
everywhere and everything. Truly inspired by what he does at Changing
Gears.

Today
Riding down Fernside Street in Alameda with my good friend Duy. Nice
chill day deserved a nice chill ride especially after riding through
the Berkeley hills the other day. We come up to the Eastshore street
stop sign. I stop but don't put my foot down (trackstand to keep up)
look left, no traffic and right at the motorcycle cop parked on East
Shore street and I roll through the intersection WITH the car directly
across the street from me. Motorcycle cop pulls me over for rolling
through a stop sign because I didn't put my foot down. I try to
contest but he tells me to save the talking for the judge if I want to
contest the ticket. Venting I know. Even worse case is that Duy gets a
ticket too! Bah. It's a way to start the day.

Pictures proved that it happened:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjxvzoXM

Meh. Despite the ticket so far so good with the Christmas break.
Looking forward for more rides. Still looking for my bike. But after
this ticket I feel like I might never find it again. I've come to
terms with that.  Before school starts I WILL be stopping by RHQ to
test ride some bikes. Hoping for a Holiday Miracle on my stolen bike
or at least not another ticket before the New Years.
This will be one of my last post for a while. So I wish everyone here
on the forum happy holidays, happy riding, happy times.

-Manny Don't get another ticket before the New Years Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?

2011-12-21 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Hey Spoc.. Mind your own damn business. ..my opinion is as good as anybody's 
and telling me to go away because you don't like it is tough So you can 
feel free to just not read my post... But I assure you I won't submit to your 
bully tactics and bs crap..

Hope that was clear enough ..

Now if you have any actual points to discuss please do express yourself.

Regards

Kely

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